New Rules at Burningman
New Rules at Burningman
After last years tragic happenings on the playa and off: This year it is mandatory that nobody gets hurt or gets killed. Us people who cherish life and experiences with others find it too difficult knowing that someone gets hurt or killed. So please do your best to not get hurt or killed. Please think twice about your safety and the safety of others whom we care a great deal about. Thank you for your support!
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Re: New Rules at Burningman
Oh yeah, don't get out of bed because it is dangerous too.Jimbobwe wrote:After last years tragic happenings on the playa and off: This year it is mandatory that nobody gets hurt or gets killed. Us people who cherish life and experiences with others find it too difficult knowing that someone gets hurt or killed. So please do your best to not get hurt or killed. Please think twice about your safety and the safety of others whom we care a great deal about. Thank you for your support! :!:
You know... you can quit drinking, smoking, having sex, drugs... all of it.... you can stop... but alas it all turns out the same in the end.... you die.
OK folks, no new news here, go about your business in an orderly manner.
Have a nice day.
Claes Oldenburg
Badger wrote:
>Yet that's the only place I've ever seen any of his work.
to name a few works not in museums:
There's a huge Oldenburg piece on the Embarcadero in San Francisco.
http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/cupidspan.htm
Salinas, CA
http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/hats.htm
Venice, CA
http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/binoculars.htm
>Yet that's the only place I've ever seen any of his work.
to name a few works not in museums:
There's a huge Oldenburg piece on the Embarcadero in San Francisco.
http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/cupidspan.htm
Salinas, CA
http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/hats.htm
Venice, CA
http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/binoculars.htm
It was like this when I got here, honest.
sex drugs and living
You know... you can quit drinking, smoking, having sex, drugs... all of it.... you can stop... but alas it all turns out the same in the end.... you die.
You may die sooner if you keep doing all of the above. This actually can be a good thing.
You may die sooner if you keep doing all of the above. This actually can be a good thing.
It was like this when I got here, honest.
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> ...do your best to not get hurt or killed...
If more experienced Burning Man ticketholders currently go to great lengths to design art cars that can kill no matter what the victim's state of intelligence or attention, what is the Newbie Information you wish to impart?
If more experienced Burning Man ticketholders currently go to great lengths to design art cars that can kill no matter what the victim's state of intelligence or attention, what is the Newbie Information you wish to impart?
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Sigh.
ITIM udderly mischievious killer Holsteins.
ITIM udderly mischievious killer Holsteins.
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Should people die there, underneath a piece of "art"?
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
I don't know, I think Burning Man might actually be safer...
Deaths at Disneyland:
* May 1964: Mark Maples, a 15-year-old Long Beach, CA, resident, was killed when he tried to stand up on the Matterhorn Bobsleds. Maples (or his companion) foolishly unbuckled his seatbeat and attempted to stand up as their bobsled neared the peak of the mountain. Maples lost his balance and was thrown from the sled to the track below, fracturing his skull and ribs and causing internal injuries. He died three days later.
* June 1966: Thomas Guy Cleveland, a 19-year-old Northridge, CA, resident, was killed when he attempted to sneak into Disneyland along the Monorail track. Cleveland scaled the park's sixteen-foot high outer fence on a Grad Nite and climbed onto the Monorail track, intending to jump or climb down once inside the park. Cleveland ignored a security guard's shouted warnings of an approaching Monorail train and failed to leap clear of the track. He finally climbed down onto a fiberglass canopy beneath the track, but the clearance wasn't enough -- the oncoming train struck and killed him, dragging his body 30 to 40 feet down the track.
* August 1967: Ricky Lee Yama, a 17-year-old Hawthorne, CA, resident, was killed when he disregarded safety instructions and exited his People Mover car as the ride was passing through a tunnel. Yama slipped as he was jumping from car to car and was crushed to death beneath the wheels of oncoming cars.
* June 1973: Bogden Delaurot, an 18-year-old Brooklyn resident, drowned trying to swim across the Rivers of America. Delaurot and his 10-year-old brother managed to stay on Tom Sawyer Island past its dusk closing time by climbing the fence separating the island from the burning settlers' cabin. When they decided to leave the island a few hours later, they chose to swim across the river rather than call attention to their rule-breaking by appealing to cast members for help. Because the younger brother did not know how to swim, Delaurot tried to carry him on his back as he swam to shore. Bogden Delaurot went down about halfway across the river. The younger boy remained afloat by dogpaddling until a ride operator hauled him aboard a boat, but Bogden was nowhere to be found. His body was not located by searchers until the next morning.
* 7 June 1980: Gerardo Gonzales, a recent San Diego high school graduate, was killed on the People Mover in an accident much like the one that had befallen Ricky Lee Yama thirteen years earlier. Gonzales, in the early morning hours of a Grad Nite celebration, was climbing from car to car as the People Mover entered the SuperSpeed Tunnel adjacent to the former America Sings building. Gonzales stumbled and fell onto the track, where an oncoming train of cars crushed him beneath its wheels and dragged his body a few hundred feet before being stopped by a ride operator.
* 4 June 1983: Philip Straughan, an 18-year-old Albuquerque, New Mexico, resident, also drowned in the Rivers of America in yet another Grad Nite incident. Straughan and a friend -- celebrating both their graduations and Straughan's eighteenth birthday -- had been drinking quite heavily that evening. They sneaked into a "Cast Members Only" area along the river and untied an inflatable rubber maintenance motorboat, deciding to take it for a joyride around the river. Unable to adequately control the boat, they struck a rock near Tom Sawyer Island, and Straughan was thrown into the water. His friend travelled back to shore to seek help, but Straughan drowned long before his body was finally located an hour later.
* 3 January 1984: Dolly Regene Young, a 48-year-old Fremont, CA, resident, was killed on the Matterhorn in an incident remarkably similar to the first Disneyland guest death nearly twenty years earlier. About two-thirds of the way down the mountain Young was thrown from her seat into the path of an oncoming bobsled, her head and chest becoming pinned beneath its wheels. An examination of Young's sled revealed that her seatbelt was not fastened at the time of the accident, but because she was riding alone in the rear car of a sled no one could determine whether or not she had deliberately unfastened her belt.
* 24 December 1998: In a tragic Christmas Eve accident, one Disneyland cast member and two guests were injured (one fatally) when a rope used to secure the sailing ship Columbia as it docked on the Rivers of America tore loose the metal cleat to which it was attached. The cleat sailed through air and struck the heads of two guests who were waiting to board the ship, Luan Phi Dawson, 33, of Duvall, Washington, and his wife, Lieu Thuy Vuong, 43. Dawson was declared brain dead two days later and died when his life support system was disconnected.
This accident resulted in the first guest death in Disneyland's history that was not attributable to any negligence on the part of the guest (it was the result of a combination of insufficiently rigorous ride maintenance and an insufficiently experienced supervisor's assuming an attraction operator's role) and prompted a movement for greater government oversight of theme park operations and safety procedures.
* 5 September 2003: A 22-year-old man, Marcelo Torres of Gardena, California, died, and several other guests were injured, when a locomotive separated from its train along a tunnel section of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Torres bled to death after suffering blunt force trauma of the chest.
Verified Injuries:
4/30/2003 - Autopia (Disneyland)
Boy ran in front of car and was run over. Extent of injuries unknown. Ride was shut down that afternoon.
8/29/2002 - Space Mountain (Disneyland)
During a routine Cascade Ride Stop one rocket (#8) blew through the brake zones at the final sections of the ride. Another rocket had been brought to a stop just past the "Re-entry Tunnel" before the station, and the out of control rocket slammed into the back of the stopped rocket. Basically a rocket rear-ended another rocket just before the station. Four Guests were taken to the hospital, and later released. The incident happened on Thursday afternoon, and the attraction has been closed ever since. The word we are getting from our managers is that Space will likely remain closed for the entire weekend, and possibly for the rest of next week as well. We are supposed to tell Guests that it is closed for an "unscheduled refurbishment", which isn't exactly untrue since they are now working intensely on the attraction to try and figure out what could have gone so horribly wrong to allow a rocket to careen through brake zones and slam into the back of another rocket.
5/3/2002 - Honey, I Shrunk the Audience (Disneyland)
Was thought to be around 10 patrons and 1 cast member came in contact with what seemed to be Pepper Spray at around 2pm Friday Afternoon. Paramedics were called to the scene.
7/14/2001 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A woman tripped and broke her ankle while being evacuated from the ride after a shut-down.
1/30/2001 - Pirates of the Caribbean (Disneyland)
An operator dispatched a boat at the load/unload area while a woman was still getting out of the boat. She fell, suffering a concussion and sprained neck.
1/21/2001 - Tom Sawyer's Island (Disneyland)
A girl lost most of a finger while playing with the toy rifles in Fort Wilderness. Following an investigation, the toy rifles were removed.
12/21/2000 - Alice in Wonderland (Disneyland)
A 15-year-old boy suffered a broken foot and leg when his left foot was pinched between a guard rail and his ride vehicle. He has sued Disney for negligence.
9/22/2000 - Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin (Disneyland)
Four-year-old Brandon Zucker was injured, and ultimately left with brain damage, when he flew out of the ride vehicle and was pinned beneath it. A state investigation blamed Disneyland personnel for loading the Zuckers into the vehicle incorrectly, and cites additional ride design flaws. As a result, Roger Rabbit became the first attraction ordered closed for repairs under California's new theme park regulation law.
8/1/2000 - Space Mountain (Disneyland)
A broken bolt caused a ride vehicle to derail, injuring nine people. Rescuers were delayed due to operators' failure to call authorities about the injuries.
6/25/2000 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A 23-year-old Spanish woman felt like her "head was rolling around" after riding. She passed out a short time later, never regained consciousness, and died on Sept. 1, 2000. She had a preexisting brain aneurysm, and her family is suing Disney, claiming the ride triggered her collapse and death..
11/28/1998 - Matterhorn Bobsleds (Disneyland)
A 44-year-old female suffered a ruputured brain aneurysm.
11/1/1998 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A woman suffered a brain hemorrhage.
3/10/1998 - Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (Disneyland)
5-year-old David Fackler's foot was crushed between the side of the car he was riding in and the loading platform as the car approached the unloading point. The accident resulted in the amputation of David's toes and surgical reconstruction of the remaining foot.
7/17/1995 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A 42-year-old female suffered a brain hemorrhage.
Date not reported - Space Mountain (Disneyland)
In August 1996, a 45-year-old female suffered a brain injury, diagnosed as intracranial hypotension/hypovolemia syndrome due to inertial precipitation of CSF leak.
http://www.themeparkinsider.com/acciden ... %20Kingdom
http://www.snopes2.com/disney/parks/deaths.htm[/url]
Deaths at Disneyland:
* May 1964: Mark Maples, a 15-year-old Long Beach, CA, resident, was killed when he tried to stand up on the Matterhorn Bobsleds. Maples (or his companion) foolishly unbuckled his seatbeat and attempted to stand up as their bobsled neared the peak of the mountain. Maples lost his balance and was thrown from the sled to the track below, fracturing his skull and ribs and causing internal injuries. He died three days later.
* June 1966: Thomas Guy Cleveland, a 19-year-old Northridge, CA, resident, was killed when he attempted to sneak into Disneyland along the Monorail track. Cleveland scaled the park's sixteen-foot high outer fence on a Grad Nite and climbed onto the Monorail track, intending to jump or climb down once inside the park. Cleveland ignored a security guard's shouted warnings of an approaching Monorail train and failed to leap clear of the track. He finally climbed down onto a fiberglass canopy beneath the track, but the clearance wasn't enough -- the oncoming train struck and killed him, dragging his body 30 to 40 feet down the track.
* August 1967: Ricky Lee Yama, a 17-year-old Hawthorne, CA, resident, was killed when he disregarded safety instructions and exited his People Mover car as the ride was passing through a tunnel. Yama slipped as he was jumping from car to car and was crushed to death beneath the wheels of oncoming cars.
* June 1973: Bogden Delaurot, an 18-year-old Brooklyn resident, drowned trying to swim across the Rivers of America. Delaurot and his 10-year-old brother managed to stay on Tom Sawyer Island past its dusk closing time by climbing the fence separating the island from the burning settlers' cabin. When they decided to leave the island a few hours later, they chose to swim across the river rather than call attention to their rule-breaking by appealing to cast members for help. Because the younger brother did not know how to swim, Delaurot tried to carry him on his back as he swam to shore. Bogden Delaurot went down about halfway across the river. The younger boy remained afloat by dogpaddling until a ride operator hauled him aboard a boat, but Bogden was nowhere to be found. His body was not located by searchers until the next morning.
* 7 June 1980: Gerardo Gonzales, a recent San Diego high school graduate, was killed on the People Mover in an accident much like the one that had befallen Ricky Lee Yama thirteen years earlier. Gonzales, in the early morning hours of a Grad Nite celebration, was climbing from car to car as the People Mover entered the SuperSpeed Tunnel adjacent to the former America Sings building. Gonzales stumbled and fell onto the track, where an oncoming train of cars crushed him beneath its wheels and dragged his body a few hundred feet before being stopped by a ride operator.
* 4 June 1983: Philip Straughan, an 18-year-old Albuquerque, New Mexico, resident, also drowned in the Rivers of America in yet another Grad Nite incident. Straughan and a friend -- celebrating both their graduations and Straughan's eighteenth birthday -- had been drinking quite heavily that evening. They sneaked into a "Cast Members Only" area along the river and untied an inflatable rubber maintenance motorboat, deciding to take it for a joyride around the river. Unable to adequately control the boat, they struck a rock near Tom Sawyer Island, and Straughan was thrown into the water. His friend travelled back to shore to seek help, but Straughan drowned long before his body was finally located an hour later.
* 3 January 1984: Dolly Regene Young, a 48-year-old Fremont, CA, resident, was killed on the Matterhorn in an incident remarkably similar to the first Disneyland guest death nearly twenty years earlier. About two-thirds of the way down the mountain Young was thrown from her seat into the path of an oncoming bobsled, her head and chest becoming pinned beneath its wheels. An examination of Young's sled revealed that her seatbelt was not fastened at the time of the accident, but because she was riding alone in the rear car of a sled no one could determine whether or not she had deliberately unfastened her belt.
* 24 December 1998: In a tragic Christmas Eve accident, one Disneyland cast member and two guests were injured (one fatally) when a rope used to secure the sailing ship Columbia as it docked on the Rivers of America tore loose the metal cleat to which it was attached. The cleat sailed through air and struck the heads of two guests who were waiting to board the ship, Luan Phi Dawson, 33, of Duvall, Washington, and his wife, Lieu Thuy Vuong, 43. Dawson was declared brain dead two days later and died when his life support system was disconnected.
This accident resulted in the first guest death in Disneyland's history that was not attributable to any negligence on the part of the guest (it was the result of a combination of insufficiently rigorous ride maintenance and an insufficiently experienced supervisor's assuming an attraction operator's role) and prompted a movement for greater government oversight of theme park operations and safety procedures.
* 5 September 2003: A 22-year-old man, Marcelo Torres of Gardena, California, died, and several other guests were injured, when a locomotive separated from its train along a tunnel section of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Torres bled to death after suffering blunt force trauma of the chest.
Verified Injuries:
4/30/2003 - Autopia (Disneyland)
Boy ran in front of car and was run over. Extent of injuries unknown. Ride was shut down that afternoon.
8/29/2002 - Space Mountain (Disneyland)
During a routine Cascade Ride Stop one rocket (#8) blew through the brake zones at the final sections of the ride. Another rocket had been brought to a stop just past the "Re-entry Tunnel" before the station, and the out of control rocket slammed into the back of the stopped rocket. Basically a rocket rear-ended another rocket just before the station. Four Guests were taken to the hospital, and later released. The incident happened on Thursday afternoon, and the attraction has been closed ever since. The word we are getting from our managers is that Space will likely remain closed for the entire weekend, and possibly for the rest of next week as well. We are supposed to tell Guests that it is closed for an "unscheduled refurbishment", which isn't exactly untrue since they are now working intensely on the attraction to try and figure out what could have gone so horribly wrong to allow a rocket to careen through brake zones and slam into the back of another rocket.
5/3/2002 - Honey, I Shrunk the Audience (Disneyland)
Was thought to be around 10 patrons and 1 cast member came in contact with what seemed to be Pepper Spray at around 2pm Friday Afternoon. Paramedics were called to the scene.
7/14/2001 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A woman tripped and broke her ankle while being evacuated from the ride after a shut-down.
1/30/2001 - Pirates of the Caribbean (Disneyland)
An operator dispatched a boat at the load/unload area while a woman was still getting out of the boat. She fell, suffering a concussion and sprained neck.
1/21/2001 - Tom Sawyer's Island (Disneyland)
A girl lost most of a finger while playing with the toy rifles in Fort Wilderness. Following an investigation, the toy rifles were removed.
12/21/2000 - Alice in Wonderland (Disneyland)
A 15-year-old boy suffered a broken foot and leg when his left foot was pinched between a guard rail and his ride vehicle. He has sued Disney for negligence.
9/22/2000 - Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin (Disneyland)
Four-year-old Brandon Zucker was injured, and ultimately left with brain damage, when he flew out of the ride vehicle and was pinned beneath it. A state investigation blamed Disneyland personnel for loading the Zuckers into the vehicle incorrectly, and cites additional ride design flaws. As a result, Roger Rabbit became the first attraction ordered closed for repairs under California's new theme park regulation law.
8/1/2000 - Space Mountain (Disneyland)
A broken bolt caused a ride vehicle to derail, injuring nine people. Rescuers were delayed due to operators' failure to call authorities about the injuries.
6/25/2000 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A 23-year-old Spanish woman felt like her "head was rolling around" after riding. She passed out a short time later, never regained consciousness, and died on Sept. 1, 2000. She had a preexisting brain aneurysm, and her family is suing Disney, claiming the ride triggered her collapse and death..
11/28/1998 - Matterhorn Bobsleds (Disneyland)
A 44-year-old female suffered a ruputured brain aneurysm.
11/1/1998 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A woman suffered a brain hemorrhage.
3/10/1998 - Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (Disneyland)
5-year-old David Fackler's foot was crushed between the side of the car he was riding in and the loading platform as the car approached the unloading point. The accident resulted in the amputation of David's toes and surgical reconstruction of the remaining foot.
7/17/1995 - Indiana Jones Adventure (Disneyland)
A 42-year-old female suffered a brain hemorrhage.
Date not reported - Space Mountain (Disneyland)
In August 1996, a 45-year-old female suffered a brain injury, diagnosed as intracranial hypotension/hypovolemia syndrome due to inertial precipitation of CSF leak.
http://www.themeparkinsider.com/acciden ... %20Kingdom
http://www.snopes2.com/disney/parks/deaths.htm[/url]
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Are conditions and practices that may reasonably contribute to death in any way tolerable?
DPW, since last year, has gifted its labor to the event within the precautions of OSHA-style safety orders.
"RTFT" means that you agree to read and abide by all rules in the Survival Guide and to follow federal, state, and local laws. Only a fuckwit or illiterate would stop reading at the large print on the ticket.
Risk of death is a bit overrated as a feature of the event. If somebody can get crushed and killed underneath an art car, however it happened, maybe the whole art car thing has to be let go for a year until a better way of doing art can be hatched, I think.
In balancing the hurt to a car owner's feelings, v. interfering with somebody else's experience of the rest of their life -- whose thumb is on the scale? Yours?
DPW, since last year, has gifted its labor to the event within the precautions of OSHA-style safety orders.
"RTFT" means that you agree to read and abide by all rules in the Survival Guide and to follow federal, state, and local laws. Only a fuckwit or illiterate would stop reading at the large print on the ticket.
Risk of death is a bit overrated as a feature of the event. If somebody can get crushed and killed underneath an art car, however it happened, maybe the whole art car thing has to be let go for a year until a better way of doing art can be hatched, I think.
In balancing the hurt to a car owner's feelings, v. interfering with somebody else's experience of the rest of their life -- whose thumb is on the scale? Yours?
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
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New rules at Burningman.
Thanks everyone for your useless comments. I'll remember that when you lay dying on the side of the road or on the playa with your brains spilled out. Oh well,we put out a positive comment to you people and you are not grown up enough to accept it or give a shit about anyone but yourself. But you have plenty of time to throw in a smart-ass comment. Isn't Burningman a positive thing? I didn't realize that people were only to be concerned with just themselves in this community. 
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RTFT
(...must...be...nice...must...be...nice...)
Fuck nice!
Ahem...
BRC on the whole is PAINFULLY aware of how dangerous existance is, how quickly one can get fucked up, and how the Community AS a whole can ONLY survive if we pull our city-fied collective heads out our ass QUICK and help eachother.
There is a ridiculous amount of altruism out there, and an adjacent ridiculous amount of stupid behavior from those NOT taking personal responsibility for their own safety. And I'll STILL pull their dum-ass out of trouble. That's how I'm wired, izall. BUT I AIN'T YOUR FUCKING MOTHER! And this is NOT a fucking rock concert OR an amusement park.
Number one danger out there is self-inflicted: dehydration. Most of the injuries out there are as well self-inflicted, or at least exacerbated by intoxication. Hint: if it looks sharp or hot, don't touch it.
The Wind will not kill you, it might drive you mad for a while though. The Dust will not kill you, but it might frustrate you a bit. Respect the Sun. You will find the edges of your physical tolerance, and find pride. The City and the Art wasn't intended to hurt you, and if you treat it with the same respect one does the Wind and the Dust and the Sun, then we're all going to be safer and happier.
You wrote:
> Oh well,we put out a positive comment to you people ....
Who is "we"? and what is this about "you people"?
Didn't think I'd notice, didya?
The mike's on you now.
over
Fuck nice!
Ahem...
BRC on the whole is PAINFULLY aware of how dangerous existance is, how quickly one can get fucked up, and how the Community AS a whole can ONLY survive if we pull our city-fied collective heads out our ass QUICK and help eachother.
There is a ridiculous amount of altruism out there, and an adjacent ridiculous amount of stupid behavior from those NOT taking personal responsibility for their own safety. And I'll STILL pull their dum-ass out of trouble. That's how I'm wired, izall. BUT I AIN'T YOUR FUCKING MOTHER! And this is NOT a fucking rock concert OR an amusement park.
Number one danger out there is self-inflicted: dehydration. Most of the injuries out there are as well self-inflicted, or at least exacerbated by intoxication. Hint: if it looks sharp or hot, don't touch it.
The Wind will not kill you, it might drive you mad for a while though. The Dust will not kill you, but it might frustrate you a bit. Respect the Sun. You will find the edges of your physical tolerance, and find pride. The City and the Art wasn't intended to hurt you, and if you treat it with the same respect one does the Wind and the Dust and the Sun, then we're all going to be safer and happier.
You wrote:
> Oh well,we put out a positive comment to you people ....
Who is "we"? and what is this about "you people"?
Didn't think I'd notice, didya?
The mike's on you now.
over
After last years tragic happenings on the playa and off: This year it is mandatory that nobody gets hurt or gets killed.
Ummm.... No, it's not mandatory and in fact it is highly likely that someone will get hurt or killed at next years event. (in fact it says so on your ticket). Why? Because this is a CYOA (Cover Your Own Ass) event and most people live in a world where they expect the government and everyone else to provide for them and their safety. There are things you can do to lessen your chances of ending up as one of those statistics, most of those warnings can be found right here on the eplaya written by people who care.
Some practical advice might be:Us people who cherish life and experiences with others find it too difficult knowing that someone gets hurt or killed. So please do your best to not get hurt or killed.
Don't jump off moving art cars
Don't jump off scaffolding
Don't play chicken on a motorcycle
Don't try to make "fire angels" in burning embers.
Don't try to pass other cars in the oncoming lane of traffic on 447 when you are pulling a trailer.
(note: People have been killed and seriously injured doing all of the above)
You should also read your ticket.Please think twice about your safety and the safety of others whom we care a great deal about. Thank you for your support!
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Re: New rules at Burningman.
You are welcome.Jimbobwe wrote:Thanks everyone for your useless comments.
Nice sentiment, butt-wipe.Jimbobwe wrote:I'll remember that when you lay dying on the side of the road or on the playa with your brains spilled out.
Which people would "we" be?Jimbobwe wrote:Oh well,we put out a positive comment to you people and you are not grown up enough to accept it or give a shit about anyone but yourself. But you have plenty of time to throw in a smart-ass comment.
Grown up enough? Would we be "burners if we were and how much is enough?
We give shits daily, where is your bowl?
To every coin is two sides.Jimbobwe wrote:Isn't Burningman a positive thing?
Burningman is simply a microcosm of the rest of the world.Jimbobwe wrote:I didn't realize that people were only to be concerned with just themselves in this community.
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Do not fear...
I will watch over everybody with my all seeing eye.... ~~~~~now where the fuck did I put my goddamn all seeing eye~~~~~~
hmmmm,
mr smith
hmmmm,
mr smith
"Do you know what happened to the boy who got everything he wished for? - He lived happily ever after".
Okay Jimbobwe,
the most important thing to do when undertaking the pleasure of enjoying life and all it has to offer is to use YOUR COMMON SENSE.
Once you are able to master that skill you then may proceed to the next level of life. A great majority of people still have and use that god given gift of common sense. Yes, I will admit for the greater part there are times that we forget to engage our brains before our mouths open....example....WE PEOPLE AND US PEOPLE ???? You seem to be able to slam home your own insults but are very evasive when asked these simple questions. Can you please clarify it a for the people who lack common sense? Please impart and let your wisdom seep in? i.e me
this is not an argument just a simple observation and statment.....
the most important thing to do when undertaking the pleasure of enjoying life and all it has to offer is to use YOUR COMMON SENSE.
Once you are able to master that skill you then may proceed to the next level of life. A great majority of people still have and use that god given gift of common sense. Yes, I will admit for the greater part there are times that we forget to engage our brains before our mouths open....example....WE PEOPLE AND US PEOPLE ???? You seem to be able to slam home your own insults but are very evasive when asked these simple questions. Can you please clarify it a for the people who lack common sense? Please impart and let your wisdom seep in? i.e me
this is not an argument just a simple observation and statment.....
HAPPY EVER AFTER FINALLY CAME MY WAY!
DREAMS DO COME TRUE AND HAPPINESS
CAN BE FOUND WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT.
DREAMS DO COME TRUE AND HAPPINESS
CAN BE FOUND WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT.
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Bob
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All I care about is whether scraping up your passengers' blood and intestinal ooze is going to INTERFERE WITH MY EXPERIENCE and afternoon tee-time.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
It is a big camping trip in the desert
This thread started with:
it is mandatory that nobody gets hurt or gets killed.
I believe that that is a totally unrealistic view of the basic activity that we engage in at Burning Man. In fact, I am surprised that there are not more deaths and major injuries. Camping itself is more dangerous than staying home, I could list any number of serious non-burner camping injuries. People are on vacation and people tend to take more risks on vacation than they typically do. Young people, there are loads of young people at Burning Man and young people take risks; I know that I did -- I still have several interesting scars and my right knee hasn't worked right since 1972. And now add drugs; booze, smoke, other things.
Last thing, the surreal environment and setting, it is truly another world and people let themselves go.
The two deaths in 03 that I know about, the woman that fell asleep at the wheel and the woman killed by the art car are similar to a number of accidents that I have seen or heard of. I have seen people try and jump into moving pickup trucks and fail and injure themselves and I have almost run off the road when I started to fall asleep at the wheel.
I will say that I did see one set of Burning Man specific injuries in '02. Two men riding side by side crashed into each other while they were staring at a really stunning naked woman. Small cuts, bruises and a sprained wrist.
it is mandatory that nobody gets hurt or gets killed.
I believe that that is a totally unrealistic view of the basic activity that we engage in at Burning Man. In fact, I am surprised that there are not more deaths and major injuries. Camping itself is more dangerous than staying home, I could list any number of serious non-burner camping injuries. People are on vacation and people tend to take more risks on vacation than they typically do. Young people, there are loads of young people at Burning Man and young people take risks; I know that I did -- I still have several interesting scars and my right knee hasn't worked right since 1972. And now add drugs; booze, smoke, other things.
Last thing, the surreal environment and setting, it is truly another world and people let themselves go.
The two deaths in 03 that I know about, the woman that fell asleep at the wheel and the woman killed by the art car are similar to a number of accidents that I have seen or heard of. I have seen people try and jump into moving pickup trucks and fail and injure themselves and I have almost run off the road when I started to fall asleep at the wheel.
I will say that I did see one set of Burning Man specific injuries in '02. Two men riding side by side crashed into each other while they were staring at a really stunning naked woman. Small cuts, bruises and a sprained wrist.
My grandfather tried to raise me as a Southern gentleman, that means that I can be a real SOB some of the time.