Who is Ron Paul?

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:52 pm

It's official. Not only did Ron Paul outperform his amazing fundraising day on Nov. 5, but he also beat John Kerry's previous one-day fund raising record ($5.8 million) by pulling in more than $6 million on Sunday.

Paul's fourth quarter fundraising goal was $12 million, which he has now beat by more than 50 percent with two weeks to go (he stands at $18.2 million as of this writing). What's even more amazing is that this has all happened before a single primary has taken place. John Kerry's record happened only after he secured the Democratic nomination.

Moreover, this latest fundraising effort was once again a grass roots campaign, with no support from Ron Paul's staff. Does that tell you something?

A lot of people complain about money in politics, and that it's too easy for candidates to be bought by large corporations, and rich private interests. Here is proof that there is another way.

And more importantly, a way that is not government-controlled. The average donation size varied only between $90 and $120. Then there is the Ron Paul Blimp. Sure, many will scoff at this, but this is an interesting turn of events for one important reason. It wasn't set up as a PAC. It's a private advertising corporation.

That means that any donations you make towards the blimp do not count towards the maximum you can give to the campaign. For those who think this is shady or otherwise below board, they have retained the services of Brad Smith, the former chairman of the FEC, as legal counsel.

Odds are that this amazing event will go mostly unnoticed by the mainstream media. He's not a "real candidate" to many, whatever that means. But what this should show is that there is a significant number of people who believe in what this man is saying, and are willing to put their money where their mouths are.

There are a lot of people who are just sick and tired of the same big government policies from both the Republicans and the Democrats and want real change ... not the pseudo change that is promised by the usual bunch of candidates. And what could surprise people is his ability to bring back people who had just given up:

Not that Paul is necessarily competing directly against his rivals. Campaign officials and volunteers alike say they see themselves as striving more to reach residents who have given up on politics. It is hard to imagine voters deciding between Paul and the pro-Iraq-war Republicans in the rest of the field, they say, but they also are not making concerted efforts to reach independents leaning toward an antiwar Democrat such as Obama.

"It's a lot of lifelong Republicans, folks who've been out of it and were discouraged," Jared Chicoine, New Hampshire campaign coordinator for Paul. "We don't find droves of Democrats saying, 'This is our man.' He is a conservative. He is an antiwar conservative in the line of what Republicans used to be."

Nick Schweitzer of Wauwatosa is a software consultant, amateur photographer and political commentator. He writes a blog at www.nickschweitzer.net.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:01 pm

Politics and religion is for suckers.

Freedom of speech, what a concept.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:08 pm

Surprise me... say something intellegent.

Post by **mdmf007** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:17 pm

this guy/gal is running for president?

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:29 pm

What a team that would be... Ron Paul and RuPaul... hehehehehehe.

Great picture btw... damn. he looks good.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:08 pm

(alt+p)

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:21 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:Surprise me... say something intellegent.

Oh Donna, I wish you didn't say that..........

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:52 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:Surprise me... say something intellegent.

Surprise me... say something intellegent?
Well for starters, this is the way intelligent is spelled but as any old timer on eplaya will tell you, I dont care about spelling.

If you followed the link, you get the idea that you may have to read most of the threads on eplaya to understand at least most if not some things that go on here. However, You may be new on eplaya, I dont know but it seems so.

Welcome!

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:34 am

now, now... lets not take anything too seriously here.

Spelling Nazis go away.

So it's not perfect, close is good enough.

I think maybe I read too many old America documents where the spelling was not formalized. I do think it's funny how people like to slam others for petty things while missing the main point entirely.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BURNERS THINK ABOUT RON PAUL!

So.. shoot me. (but only with a water pistol)

I already know they are antiestablishment. That's the point.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:39 am

Ron Paul is the first independent candidate in a long time that actually grabbed my attention.

That being said I was a Clinton supporter years ago and that hasn't changed one bit. My vote is locked in for Hillary...I just don't see any other contender out there that has the experience / resources needed to clean up Shrub's economic and foreign policy disasters. And personally I did better with Bill in office than I ever did under any other president...and I think Hillary would be able to bring those good times back again.

In any event I still hope Ron Paul has a good showing so he can continue to build the support he'll need for a strong run in 2016.

Edit: Once a Missouri Democrat, always a Missouri Democrat, no matter how far afield (like now) that my feet have taken me. If we didn't have such an entrenched 2 party system with death grips on the levers of political power, I'd lean towards Ron's platform or a Green platform even more. But I hold off because I want to keep my illusion that my vote on the national level still counts for something.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:06 am

Kinetic V

Okay... What would you do if it came down to Hillary on the Dem side and Ron Paul on the Rep side?

Which by the way is what I think is going to happen.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:50 am

When you read about a vote in Congress that goes something like 412-1, odds are pretty good that the sole "nay" came from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas. He so consistently votes against widely popular bills, in fact, that the Washington Post recently gave him the moniker "Congressman 'No.'"

Paul isn't a reflexive contrarian--he doesn't oppose just to oppose. Rather, he has a core set of principles that guide him. They happen to be the same principles envisioned by the framers of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, federalism, free trade and commerce -- with a premium on peace.

When most members of Congress see a bill for the first time, they immediately judge the bill on its merits, or if you're more cynical, they determine what the political interests that support them will think of it, or how it might benefit their constituents.

For Paul, the vast majority of bills don't get that far. He first asks, "Does the Constitution authorize Congress to pass this law?" Most of the time, the answer to that question is "no." And so Paul votes accordingly.

This hasn't won him many friends in Congress, or, for that matter, his own party. It hasn't won him influential committee assignments or powerful chairmanships, either. Those are generally handed out to the party animals who vote as they're told. An incorruptible man of principle in a corrupt body almost utterly devoid of principle, Paul is often a caucus of one.

Article "Ron Paul, the Real Republican?" FoxNews
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252847,00.html

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:15 am

Donna Matrix wrote:Kinetic V

Okay... What would you do if it came down to Hillary on the Dem side and Ron Paul on the Rep side?

Which by the way is what I think is going to happen.

In that scenario I'd go with Ron Paul. But I just don't see it going that way despite the impressive grass roots support he has and the awesome fundraising effort he just benefitted from. It's just not his time yet, IMHO.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:58 am

I'm a little creeped out by the idea he's an ob/gyn whose never seen a case of medical necessity for abortion. And the whole "free markets will solve everything" fairy tale is something else...

And he just seems another in the endless line of "new" candidates, Nader, Perot, Anderson...and those are just from my political lifetime. I'm sure they reach back farther than that.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:01 am

Kinectic V is a wise person....and pragmatic.

no matter who the candidate is, i will click my heels three times, close my eyes and say "i'm a good democrat, i'm a good democrat, I'm a good democrat....."

and i will pull the lever for the party that will at least TRY to make things better.

I Blame Nadar and his ego and his need to make a stupid fucking point at the expense of the country and the world.

had he thrown his support to Gore this whole mess we would not be in...(do you like like the yiddish syntax?)

and for what.... Integrity? Purity of Soul?

he's a fuckhead who cut off his balls to spite his dick.

and anyone who wastes their vote on a "fringe" candidate does just that...

might as well beat off while you're in the booth.

so, even though i like ron paul, you have got to be fucking kidding if you think he will win...

I was a delegate at age 27 to the Democratic National Convention for Jerry Brown, and even he knew when to throw in the hat and Close Ranks.

Please, Pick the lesser of two Evils, if you must view it that way, but if you look at Pres. Clinton's record and accomplishments, you will be pleasantly suprised to see he DID A DAMN GOOD JOB REPUBLICANS NOTWITHSTANDING.

and i'll take a blow job over a war of occupation any fucking day...

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:19 am

Ron Paul is a way to get all the potheads registered as Republicans.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:24 am

I smell goosestepping.

And what do geese do? yes, they shit slippery shit everywhere (I've owned them).

Come on! Read Ron Paul on the issues. Read Ron Paul on his record.

GOGGLE RON PAUL.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:00 pm

History Record Ron Paul Campaign Turned on Dec 18th?
Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

NEWS ANALYSIS/OPINION

The $6 million mass donation day for Ron Paul on Dec 16th was a big success, but December 18th when Ron Paul quoted Sinclair Lewis on fascism and explained his views about freedom and free markets on the Glenn Beck program, was likely a historical turning point in the American, and even global, conversation about freedom. On this day, too, it might well be said the Ron Paul campaign fully â€œarrived.â€

Dork · Post by **Dork** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:12 pm

I love the fact that he does what he feels is right, rather than what lobbyists and campaign contributors tell him to do. I love the fact that he speaks his mind and tells the truth in debates.

I fear that he might actually get elected and put a screeching hault to the federal government. I'm in the unpopular middle ground when it comes to federal spending - there are some cases where it is actually more efficient for the federal government to do things, or at the very least hold a tight leash on private companies doing things for it. Ron Paul would see us getting rid of national parks, the interstate highway system, the military, and there's no way in hell he'd support a national health care plan.

We need someone with his balls, but with at least a little realism thrown in. Gravel perhaps? Nah, the media has him cornered in "also-ran" status along with other qualified candidates like Richardson.

I don't put a lot of stock in Hillary's experience of being adjacent to power. Her recent record is nothing to be excited about. I like Obama, and I've come to like Edwards. McCain allowed himself to be tainted by W and his supporters. If he can pull himself out of that, he could be a good president.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:57 pm

What would you do if it came down to Hillary on the Dem side and Ron Paul on the Rep side?

Ron Paul like the rest of the field of Republicans is a disingenuous liar. Like the other 8 (of 9) Republican candidates he actually is saying he believes in Creationism in order to attract the Xian groups and their Telebangelist preacher cronies.

Where there's a lack of candor in a politician there's a steaming pile of shit running for office regardless of party affiliation.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:01 pm

HOLY SHIT! (excuse the pun) the sky is falling.

I actually agree with Badger.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:15 pm

Diebold is in control of fixing elections where I live so I will be on vote strike. It was a VERY hard decision to make but I cannot support an illegal inaccurate election system.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:42 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:I smell goosestepping.

I love this. Putting aside the whole question of how you can smell an action well, I guess you're a synasesiac or on drugs, there are a number of attractive things about it.
There's the whole psychological question of whether this is a projection of your own dark dreams. This is bolstered by the basic snottiness you've displayed to those who don't agree with you. I don't know about other people, but what I find most attractive in a political candidate is a cadre of supporters who are superior, self-rightious, dismissive of others' concerns, smug know-it-alls. That just inspires so much confidence in their man's integrity and ability to change politics as usual. But what I like most about it is who we all know it is meant to invoke.

Church Lady wrote:Could it be...Hitler?!

And once he is invoked, we know wha--

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:00 pm

hahahahahaha

Quite funny.

I realize you don't know this... but there is a diffenence between assailing a behavior, such as goosestepping, and defaming a person or a group of persons.

Now, you don't know me and I don't know you. But I do know what Goosestepping looks like - it's when someone just marches to the establishment drummer - "I'm just going to vote Democratic, regardless of the candidate"... Yea... that goosestepping. Nailed it.

Throw your epithets all you like, but just like grade school...

Stick and stones can break my bones,
But words will never hurt me.

TheFunkHole · Post by **TheFunkHole** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:42 pm

I see RP as a potential steambuilder. Don't put him in the Nader, Perot category.
It's early in the game, don't count anyone out yet.

This sounds a little OTT, but hey... you never know.

Estulin: Elitists Consider Assassinating Ron Paul
Best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth says intelligence sources
told him highest levels of U.S. government discussing what result
would be if Congressman was killed

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, December 14, 2007

Best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth Daniel Estulin says he has
received information from sources inside the U.S. intelligence
community which suggests that people from the highest levels of the
U.S. government are considering an assassination attempt against
Congressman Ron Paul because they are threatened by his burgeoning
popularity.
Estulin, whose information has unfortunately proven very accurate in
the past, went public with the bombshell news during an appearance on
The Alex Jones Show today.
"I am getting information from my sources that there are people
involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are
seriously considering - this has not been confirmed - but
assassination is definitely on the agenda and I pray to God that this
is not the case," said Estulin.

Estulin, an award winning investigative journalist, said that he was
given the information from a source that has been reliable for over a
decade in providing accurate projections of future events based on
what the elite were discussing in their own circles and that
assassination was a serious option should the Ron Paul Revolution
continue to pick up steam.

Estulin, author of the global bestseller The True Story of the
Bilderberg Group described the concept as a "trial balloon from the
inner core within the inner core - it hasn't gone beyond that but it
is obviously on the table because I think needless to say they are
very much concerned," he added.

Steven bradford · Post by **Steven bradford** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:13 pm

Who is Ron Paul?

A libertarian, and a not particularly interesting or effective one.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:54 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:hahahahahaha

Quite funny.

I realize you don't know this... but there is a diffenence between assailing a behavior, such as goosestepping, and defaming a person or a group of persons.

Now, you don't know me and I don't know you. But I do know what Goosestepping looks like - it's when someone just marches to the establishment drummer - "I'm just going to vote Democratic, regardless of the candidate"... Yea... that goosestepping. Nailed it.

Uuummm........ok.

Call me anythinng you like.........butt..............I still dont know what "goosestepping is.

My first time hearing the phrase.

I have a few friends that did not know what "Nappy headed" meant.

Now I know how they feel............I think.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:59 am

oh god, where do i start....

and what will the snark level be?

ok.....got it......xtreme snark attack.

Donna, truth be told, i AM a Nazi, i like all things Naziesque, right down to the HOT HOT uniforms, i love the Nazi sense of Pageantry and Style, and their unerring efficiency.

oooooohhh. I'm feeling all Goose-Steppy...

in fact, my E-mail is [email protected]

Goggle it.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:20 am

oh, donna...

one more thing....there is an old german saying that goes something like this....

"Dum Fick Gut"....

you must be GREAT in bed.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:37 am

I just love it when you use my name... Simon..

Now I have Goosebumps all over my body.... (similiar to goosestepping, but oh... so much personal)

*kiss, kiss*

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