Black Rock City Address System Unveiled

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:48 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:Making "you" statements are not very emotionally or intellectually sound.

Donna Matrix wrote:that post was not directed at you in the least.
I am trying to do exactly what you said.
Thank you.
You know..
How can you believe
you should not assume
Again, you should not assume
you must be prepared for the sceptic who will question the pronouncements
Name-calling is... the process of placing what the writer dislikes or opposes into a generally odious category without justifying the use of the terms.
Name-calling appeals to prejudice, not to rationality.
would you do it too?

philosopher · Post by **philosopher** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:45 pm

Golly. I take a little time off to go work on recabling my studio and come back to find this thread has gone native in an eplaya kind of way...

Thanks for your constructive thoughts, robbidobbs (and for all that great porta-potty work!) and jaycerochester. And thanks also to all the playa theorists wondering about context. Of course, always happy to have fire elf humming in our general direction!

Intuitiveness/naturalness is definitely the goal for the more detailed addressing scheme. The "totally staggering" test is probably a more stringent metric than we need to say we have a successful system, at least in part because people in that state are just happy to land somewhere friendly. But we have always had ease of use in mind. The Internet address format seemed like it might be intuitive at this point in history.

We are hoping comments with suggestions will help us build a sense of what works for folks and make revisions that improve usability and already know that chaos just means more dead letters, so we have a concept that being able to specify a place is good. The clock approach--which btw is and has always been part of the plan for locating points on letter streets--is clearly here to stay. The question is how it sits in an address. I'd also still like to see some indicator for people without mailboxes who are camped some distance in from the street, like >>> for someone about 3 tents or vehicles in from the street.

We also know that, cheap as mailboxes may be, many burners, especially solos and those in tiny camps, will never put up a mailbox or name their camp and put up a sign, but it is a splendid idea for delivery of mail when no one's home. First choice for BRCPO Delivery Specialists, of course, is that personal touch!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:10 pm

philosopher wrote:The "totally staggering" test is probably a more stringent metric than we need to say we have a successful system, at least in part because people in that state are just happy to land somewhere friendly.

Maybe friendly camps need to put up a picture of a happy dome, so that staggerers will know where to land.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:34 am

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Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:13 am

I had a vision last night.

Cardstock, sharpies, and duck tape. Fold the cardstock less than half way, emblazen with camp name and address, tape to any structure facing the street be it RV, tent, dome, or car.

And - voila - a makeshift mailbox ready to receive mail and as an extra added bonus it also serves as a camp marker.

All is good in the world.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:27 am

Same concept for the weekend burn.

As street signs disappear, as they always do, replace with sharpie emblazened cardstock duck taped firmly to fence post.

To bad they don't make glow in the dark cardstock. That would be perfect.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:40 pm

City Address System Unveiled

what's your veil made out of?...

notebook paper?

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:50 pm

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:40 pm

Cool
Laughing
Rolling Eyes

Post by **mdmf007** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:06 pm

hmmmmmmmmmmm.

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:12 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:Same concept for the weekend burn.

As street signs disappear, as they always do, replace with sharpie emblazened cardstock duck taped firmly to fence post.

To bad they don't make glow in the dark cardstock. That would be perfect.

Check this out if you haven't already...

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=23287

You could paint the cardstock to make it glow in the dark...

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:35 pm

philosopher wrote:Golly. I take a little time off to go work on recabling my studio and come back to find this thread has gone native in an eplaya kind of way...

That's GOT to be the Post of the Day.

And you're welcome.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:44 pm

That is way cool.

http://www.glopaint.com/24orders.htm

bigbluedoggy · Post by **bigbluedoggy** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:44 pm

Hi Donna. Thanks for your efforts in working towards a better method of addressing. For the record, I tried very hard not to be snarky in my post about the idea a ways back. Thanks!

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:34 pm

From one playa-entrepreneur to another: keep it small and manageable, pick your battles, lower your expectations, think BIG PICTURE, plan for pesky details...
...wear good shoes.

Post by **mdmf007** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:03 pm

I have never received a letter or package at BM. I think ill change that this year.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:27 pm

mdmf007 wrote:I have never received a letter or package at BM. I think ill change that this year.

Gonna send yourself a letter?

Post by **mdmf007** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:03 pm

I think i will. I am going to send myself a nice bottle and enjoy the hell out of it when it gets there.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:42 pm

If you know where you'll be camping and can make out an address, I'll send you bottle of something nice....

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:44 pm

Glow in the dark paint.... how cool is that?

Nutmeg Alfredo · Post by **Nutmeg Alfredo** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:26 pm

gosh, that hardly touches it for me. Having been part of the BRCPO for many years, I have to say

of course, I love it. it is so thoughtful.

the thing is, how hard do you want to think when you're on the playa? me? not this hard. I want to play, and so less numbers and pinpointing the better. I kinda like having to ask people quesstions - have you seen this camp? do you know where this person is?

and yet, for many people this will provide some new perspective on the playa. for me, I will probably mostly ignore it and keep deliverating as I have in the past.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:54 pm

thank you, thank you,

as always... no coercion... of course - use or not use...

I'm just trying to be of some service... to those who want...

Post by **mdmf007** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:16 am

mdmf007 wrote:I think i will. I am going to send myself a nice bottle and enjoy the hell out of it when it gets there.

Awesome!!!
Ill be at Station 9, SW Corner of 9 and C

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:22 am

mdmf007 wrote:
mdmf007 wrote:I think i will. I am going to send myself a nice bottle and enjoy the hell out of it when it gets there.
Awesome!!!
Ill be at Station 9, SW Corner of 9 and C

Well, if you're ever at Station 3, drop by the Booby Bar (possibly 3 and B) and ask for me.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:05 am

one eyed dick wrote....

"Maybe walking around with bullhorns could
help carriers find addresses easier ?
It's always worked for me in the past."

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....bullhorns......

you gimme one of those babies and you'll have to KILL ME to shut me up....

there is nothing more fun than wandering around the playa at 630-700 am with a bullhorn shouting vicious obscenities and blaming everybody for partying too hard the night before..."drank too much, not feeling good? well TOO FUCKING BAD!!! get out here and CLEAN UP THIS MESS YOU DIRtY FUCKING HIPPIES......AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"

i'm sure you've heard me........i AM that asshole..

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:42 am

My daughter (who brought me to BM in 2004) won't let me get a bullhorn. They are $99 at Radio Shack... nice and big and loud.

But maybe I'll sneak it in the stash this year. he he he he

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:11 am

Are you guys using Station to mean Plaza? Seems like it anyway....

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:19 am

even though the odds are exceedingly small, i JUST might bump into Donna on the Playa, so i have decided NOT to participate this year.

it's all Donna's Fault....EVERYTHING IS....right down to the clogged toidies.

She has Filled my heart with Hate, and so therefore, i must protect the Playa from possible violence by locking myself in a room (top floor, duh) of Circus Circus and eat more Bacon and Jello than anyone ever should.

maybe rent a couple of movies....

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:30 am

Ah............ the power............ the shear power I hold........

I can annoy the annoying - what a gift...

Really, Simon, I will ignore you on the playa.... no problem....

Black Rock City Address System Unveiled

Finding Camps is:

not quite chaotic enough for me