Donna Matrix's Bible Trivia Question O' the Day !!!

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:16 pm

I think UDougly was being ironical.

erri2000 · Post by **erri2000** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:16 pm

BitterDan wrote:"If a faithful account was rendered of Man's ideas upon Divinity, he would be obliged to acknowledge, that for the most part the word "gods" has been used to express the concealed, remote, unknown causes of the effects he witnessed; that he applies this term when the spring of the natural, the source of known causes ceases to be visible: as soon as he loses the thread of these causes, or as soon as his mind can no longer follow the chain, he solves the difficulty, terminates his research, by ascribing it to his gods...When, therefore, he ascribes to his gods the production of some phenomenon...does he, in fact, do anything more than substitute for the darkness of his own mind, a sound to which he has been accustomed to listen with reverential awe?" -- Paul Heinrich Dietrich, Baron von Holbach, SystÃ©me de la Nature, London, 1770

So here is the story about the hawk take it, as you want. I make no apologies for it. And it is all true. Whatever here goes nothing.

So I am sitting in my backyard reliving some pretty freaky weird bad shit that has happened to me over my life. Things I had no control over, really weird psycho stuff that my father forced me to be involved in, like the day I was brought to a childrenâ€™s hospital in Cleveland and where I was held down by what I remember to be at least six orderlies and given a spinal tap, I was ten, pretty traumatic stuff. I still have no idea why this happened. My mother wonâ€™t tell me.

This is factual.

My theory is that when my father was in medical school they needed a control sample so he volunteered me for science. This is a guess. I will never really know, I am juts trying to find ways to deal with it. I have a very weird life story.

So I am staring into the sky crying so hard I think my head is going to explode when I see a hawk that was flying in the distance. I remembered what a friend said once; hawks are good luck.

So I said aloud. â€œGod please. If everything is going to be OK let that hawk land on my fence,â€

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:25 pm

Erri2k, I fucking love that story. Never let anyone take that away from you.

(((hug)))

You get a lollipop even if you didn't answer any question besides your own.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:29 pm

If the hawk landing was coincidence so fucking what. I do what I need to do to get through the day.

A rational person would think it was coincidence. Not even so much coincidence as probability. Hawks perch on fences, light poles, telephone lines, etc. They don't do this because "God" told them to, they do it so they can see their prey.

A faithful person would think it was divine intervention.

When it comes down to it, you believe whatever you want to believe. But don't tell me to fuck off just because I choose to think rationally.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:39 pm

erri, I love the story...

Birds of Prey are always a good sign.

I would love to hear more about your life story. The hospital thing is just plain scary. What a memory to have and why your parents won't tell you what was up with it... I hope they tell you. Knowing can't be as bad as not knowing.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:42 pm

BitterDan wrote:
If the hawk landing was coincidence so fucking what. I do what I need to do to get through the day.
A rational person would think it was coincidence. Not even so much coincidence as probability. Hawks perch on fences, light poles, telephone lines, etc. They don't do this because "God" told them to, they do it so they can see their prey.

A faithful person would think it was divine intervention.

When it comes down to it, you believe whatever you want to believe. But don't tell me to fuck off just because I choose to think rationally.

The thing is that erri asked and he received. For that he is thankful. I don't think rational or faith have anything to do with.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:52 pm

Well folks I am off to the igloo for a few hours. See ya later.

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:56 pm

Box Burner wrote:Well folks I am off to the igloo for a few hours. See ya later.

Uhh... Good luck with that?

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:27 pm

Birds of Prey are always a good sign.

Not if you're a squirrel.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:32 pm

made me laugh...

Good one BitterDan

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:40 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:I've got a question for everyone:

Who is qualified to speak about Jesus?

A. an apostate
B. an agnostic
C. an adherent
D. an archimage

Nobody even tried to answer my question... boo hoo sob sob... anybody?

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:51 pm

The glib answer is C. For some reason, though, I get the feeling that A is correct... I dunno why.

and the answer is? ***********drum roll***************

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:00 pm

pardon my tangent,

but i feel i may be askance from the general populace in regards to my perceptions of bibliomania...

having been born the third day of january @ 3:11 am, every time i've heard any variation of rising on the third day, my spidey sense goes 'wang'

not to be glib, or mean, but a bible student has been advising that one must look to the most probable,
while during the event, if taken as other than wholly imaginary, the very courses of action of the protagonist would fall well outside the vogue of probable

could that not have been the very point?

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:32 pm

C is the right answer.

Although I think I see mayavin point. -> the one that's involved is too close to see what is happening <-

But then again, unless someone is know by someone else, can that someone else tell you anything real about that person?

The apostate maybe able to tell you what they knew... but since they don't believe anymore their information is dated..

The agnostic doesn't believe so therefore doesn't have any first hand knowledge

The archimage thinks he knows the underlying power without knowing the person.

Um............

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:37 pm

ad herent, eh? hehehe

and how many times have you been anointed and by whom?

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:38 pm

I had a feeling I was right the first time and I was thinking about the question too much.
Usually in a trivia game, aren't you supposed to be looking for the unexpected answer or is that just my own consideration?

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:02 pm

and if he had adhered to the ways of those he learned from, you either would not have known of him, or you would have known of them

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:05 pm

what good could come out of Nazareth?

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:07 pm

or... Nazir

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:52 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:
Donna Matrix wrote:I've got a question for everyone:

Who is qualified to speak about Jesus?

A. an apostate
B. an agnostic
C. an adherent
D. an archimage

OK, as you have stated yourself many times, this is not a Bible question.
This is more of a opinionated than imformed multiple choice attempt to derail this
True Bible trivia thread with more incessant ramblings of your "personal" belief codes
and such other nonsence about following what Jesus said and not what the Bible says.
The Lord's laws are in Leviticus, and you should read them a few times before
you stick your possibly web-toed foot into your mouth any farther. Praise Jesus !!!
And as for those of you who claim to believe in God but not in his Son
or his Holiest of Ghosties, well then you obviously are Jewish in decent.

My answer would be B. an Agnostic.

But then you said
" The agnostic doesn't believe so therefore doesn't have any first hand knowledge "

I think you meant athiest, as most agnostics have belief in one God , just not your one God.

Besides..... anyone can talk about Jesus, even Athiests have reasons for being that way.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:01 pm

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to safely protect yourself from the inherent risks and dangers of posting in this thread.

mereth · Post by **mereth** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:01 pm

Oneeye,

Wasn't your last question something about a lion?

Care to reiterate so we can get back on track?

Donna, remember, trivia is trivial. Don't let anyone bake your mustard seed but you.

From Merriam-Websters:

Main Entry: trivÂ·ia
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology: New Latin, back-formation from Latin trivialis
Date: 1920
: unimportant matters : trivial facts or details; also singular in construction : a quizzing game involving obscure facts

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:09 pm

Thank You Mereth, and yes, two pages ago I poised this question :

What do God and a lion have in common?

A. Roaring.
B. Ripping people to bloody shreds.
C. Devouring humans slowly, savoring every bite.
D. All of the above.

So far, only Mousey Mouse has chosen an answer, that being "A".

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:16 pm

E.none of the above

erri2000 · Post by **erri2000** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:14 pm

Hey Donna,

Here is a gift for you I hope you enjoy it.

http://www.errichetti.com/artist/bm/2007/index.htm

So One Eyed Dick why is God like a lion.

dana · Post by **dana** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:42 pm

erri2000 wrote:
BitterDan wrote:"If a faithful account was rendered of Man's ideas upon Divinity, he would be obliged to acknowledge, that for the most part the word "gods" has been used to express the concealed, remote, unknown causes of the effects he witnessed

If the hawk landing was coincidence so fucking what. I do what I need to do to get through the day.

In response to the Bitter one:
It comes down to this - calculate the odds. Doesn't have to be exactly accurate. Just a wild approximation will do. In this case what do you think the odds might be of asking for a very specific sign to help you through a rough patch when the meaning of reality may have been in question (or whatever angst Erri felt at that moment - a crux point of belief.) Then.... a hawk - which, yes are known to hang out on poles and fences, but rarely like to hang out very near people especially when they're making noise - decides to land right there. I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of a million to one (if the hawk was within 60 feet and so forth for calculations...)
Then you tie in the aspect of context. What was needed by Erri right then? Did it work?

These things happen to me on such a regular basis that I start to trivialize them.
Yeah. Thats just the way things are...
But in the back of my mind I still calculate the odds. But I also consider the possibility that I might be selectively tuning into events which only support a particular outlook, etc.
Eventually I have to conclude that non-localized mind and consciousness is intrinsic to the structure of the universe. Synchronicities, freak occurences, spontaneous altered states, altered time sense.... on and on.

Kind of like going insane, but I still get to keep my day job. sort of...

None of this means that I have to buy into any of the dogma which Donna finds so precious.

OK. back to the quiz.

I'll take A for 200.

I can't see the blatant ripping and rending somehow.
For the hell of it I decided to just let the Gideon's just fall open where it may. This will have to be my reference:
"I will surely consume them" says the Lord.....

The snorting of His horses was heard from Dan.
Jeremiah 8:13,16

(no shit. It actually fell open right there. Praise Jesus!!!)

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:22 pm

I'm going for B.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:02 pm

(no shit. It actually fell open right there. Praise Jesus!!!)

pure coincidence.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:13 pm

pinemom wrote:E.none of the above

Thanks for that, Pinemom.
But sorry, everyone is wrong, wrong, wrong !!!!!!

The question was....

What do God and a lion have in common?

Correct Answer: D (All of the above.)
â€œThey shall walk after the Lord: he shall roar like a lion: when he shall roar,
then the children shall tremble from the westâ€

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:30 pm

damn I just read through this whole thread...

"A man must not have sexual relations with (just) any animal (pick a good one)

A woman must not have sexual relations with an animal (from the frat house)"

so there