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Post by dana » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:04 am

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Donna Matrix wrote:Dana - you actually believe that Western Culture is not Christain Culture? Wow... okay... where did Western Culture come from then? the moon?

What date do you use? If you are using 2008 - that's because Jesus was born around 2008 years ago...

All of Europe was Catholic and then some turned Protestant... and you don't think this influenced Western Culture... ???

Are reading revisionist history books again?
Don't go there Donna, you can't win that one.

No, really. I think she's onto something there.
Every culture took dramatic strides forward once it came into to contact with christianity.

Think of the Mayans, the Incas, the native Americans of all tribes. They were all just slacking til Jesus came round.

The Greeks were twiddling their thumbs and doing little boys.....
All that improved dramatically after Heyzeus came along.

The Japanese, the Chinese.... again, going nowhere til they got fixed by the dude on the cross. Now look at them!! Japan sure showed us how good they learned the new lessons in WW2.

Everybody knows that an atheist scientist can't get his wits.... til he gets some christ!!

Yep. Everybody needs a friend...


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Post by erri2000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:24 am

A note to Donna Matrix.

I am not going to let you scare me away with your confused psychobabble. You may be able to knock my feet out from underneath me with some lame attempt to convert, but unlike others, I get up again, and again, and again. And I learn quickly what to avoid and how to react as to not cause panic.

Here is a simple example of learning I picked up from this place.

Spell check your work. Before you post unless you intend to confuse.

If you really want an answer, be honest with your question.
Note: It is amazing that elephants are afraid of mice huh?

If I don't know what a word means, don't guess look it up or ask. If it is in the dictionary, question answered.

One of the best things about this place is I can ask questions and get 100 answers and they are all different.

Then I can make up my own mind. I trust myself to make the right decisions. Why? Because I love myself, because I love God in my own way.

Why because Disco Love told me too, and I trust him more than anyone. I will watch his back like a hawk, gooey too, and dragon princess. And even though it may suck I will watch out for YOUR STUPID C*NT BIATCHPUNKASS also. I don't have a choice. I was made by society to be alarmed by people that do bad things. You win my WTF award.

I have always thought I have fucked up big in my life, but when I look at it, and "THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE" I have GOD to thank, for being able to talk to some people that don't have SUCH FUCKED UP UPBRINGINGS THAT THEY MAY ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T.

I have figured out my crimes are really only to myself. Yes some other people where involved that made them "crimes", but I was the only on that thought they bad enough to be punished. Even the people involved. It is the Spirit of the law. Not the Letter of the Law stuff. You say you are becoming learned, I am sure you can explain the definition of what "The Spirit of the Law means"

Actually fuck that shit, you will just argue, here is the definition. Spirit of the Law. http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/i ... e+law.html

And I am not going to go on. It is making my feel gross.

I have never stopped asking questions and I am not going to stop now, because I am going to find the FUCKING ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS! And when someone asks me a question I am going to answer it as HONESTLY AS I CAN. And If I give info I get from somewhere else info from someone else I am going to CITE THE SOURCE.

You are not going to scare me away.

I know there are 1,000,000 scared little mousy's just like me out there I now I am not alone. But you are not what I fear. You bore me to frustration.

The worst part is I AGREE WITH YOU NOW GET OF MY BACK! I think you are queer, and not in a good way.

Here is a joke.

Knock Knock
Who is there?
God.
God who?
What they forgot about me already.

I forgot where I heard that one, but it makes me laugh.

But I don't think you have to think it is funny.

Am I alone here? Am I truly alone? Fuck you and the horse you road in on for making me cry.

IF YOU SEE MY ASS AT THE MAN YOU BETTER TURN THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Sincerely,

A Thumper.

PS Now sister DICK, you started this now you finish it

ALL QUESTIONS WELCOME I SAY!

MAWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I am done crying for the wrong reasons. I am done letting people hurt me. I don't like it. I do like Burning Man and you are not going to fuck up my good time.

I love you all. Lets rock!
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:43 am

erri - I do apologize if anything I said hurt you. I do not know you and do not know your buttons. If I pushed one I didn't do it on purpose.
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:08 am

"Listen to me; let me speak, and afterwards, mock on."

Job 21:2-3
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Post by MozyBonz » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:09 am

Whisky!



…….. looks around……



Oh shit !!!


**Pulls out hand sanitizer ~~ cleans hands and arms**



Quickly exits room being careful not to touch anything on the way out.

**Shudders** religion virus….Who knew….



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Post by Rob the Wop » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:19 am

Donna Matrix wrote:Dana - you actually believe that Western Culture is not Christain Culture? Wow... okay... where did Western Culture come from then? the moon?

What date do you use? If you are using 2008 - that's because Jesus was born around 2008 years ago...

All of Europe was Catholic and then some turned Protestant... and you don't think this influenced Western Culture... ???

Are reading revisionist history books again?
Ok, this one actually made my jaw drop.

You do realize the role the church played in suppression of 'dangerous' sceinces. You do realize that the Papacy was a politically motivated organization for the majority of its conception.

As to 'some of Europe turning Protestant', oh my God. What a way to gloss over the Reformation- a massive revolt against the brutal and savage tyranny of the Medici papacy.

The Holy Roman Church fought tooth and nail against most of the sciences you point out during the Renaissance. Consider most of what we would call 'grant money' for research came from the Vatican or Catholic aligned sources during those times, and keep in mind that unless you claimed to be in bed with the Catholic church- you could pretty much kiss off any hope of being more than lower middle class.

Western civilization that we know of came about in spite of the throttling presence of the Holy Roman Church, not because of it. Without the parasitic influence of the church, the sciences would most likely have progressed exponentially faster if those researchers would not have had to worry about being thrown in prison or killed for their scientific heresies.

Granted, you could point to some actually devout scientific influences. But I could point to a far greater number of scientific pioneers that lived in fear of the church.
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Post by robbidobbs » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:27 am

It's good to see you back Rob.

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Post by erri2000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:37 am

Donna Matrix wrote:"Listen to me; let me speak, and afterwards, mock on."

Job 21:2-3
Go for it. In your own words.
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:58 am

Rob the Wop wrote:
Donna Matrix wrote:Dana - you actually believe that Western Culture is not Christain Culture? Wow... okay... where did Western Culture come from then? the moon?

What date do you use? If you are using 2008 - that's because Jesus was born around 2008 years ago...

All of Europe was Catholic and then some turned Protestant... and you don't think this influenced Western Culture... ???

Are reading revisionist history books again?
Ok, this one actually made my jaw drop.

You do realize the role the church played in suppression of 'dangerous' sceinces. You do realize that the Papacy was a politically motivated organization for the majority of its conception.

As to 'some of Europe turning Protestant', oh my God. What a way to gloss over the Reformation- a massive revolt against the brutal and savage tyranny of the Medici papacy.

The Holy Roman Church fought tooth and nail against most of the sciences you point out during the Renaissance. Consider most of what we would call 'grant money' for research came from the Vatican or Catholic aligned sources during those times, and keep in mind that unless you claimed to be in bed with the Catholic church- you could pretty much kiss off any hope of being more than lower middle class.

Western civilization that we know of came about in spite of the throttling presence of the Holy Roman Church, not because of it. Without the parasitic influence of the church, the sciences would most likely have progressed exponentially faster if those researchers would not have had to worry about being thrown in prison or killed for their scientific heresies.

Granted, you could point to some actually devout scientific influences. But I could point to a far greater number of scientific pioneers that lived in fear of the church.
I am a scientist and have studied the histories of many of the European scientist. They were, as a group, mostly Christian. Pascal (inventor of Calculus) wrote more theology books than math books. Newton - the same. Mendel was a monk. Etc. etc. etc.

Now most people site Galileo but though famous for his scientific achievements in astronomy, mathematics, and physics and infamous for his controversy with the church was, in fact, a devout Christian who saw not a divorce of religion and science but only a healthy marriage: "God is known by nature in his works, and by doctrine in his revealed word." Read his own writings. He was fighting the Catholic Church not a belief in God or Jesus. At lot of people fought with the Catholic Church - so?

"Take note, theologians, that in your desire to make matters of faith out of propositions relating to the fixity of sun and earth you run the risk of eventually having to condemn as heretics those who would declare the earth to stand still and the sun to change position - eventually, I say, at such a time as it might be physically or logically proved that the earth moves and the sun stands still."
—Galileo, Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, 1632

Do you people read?
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TAG!

my turn to jump in the ring and do my world famous, off the top rope ChristCrusher(tm)...
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Post by erri2000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:26 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:TAG!

my turn to jump in the ring and do my world famous, off the top rope ChristCrusher(tm)...
Duh duh, duh duh, duh duh

Simon of the Playa and his trademark pending ChristCrusher!


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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:29 am

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Theme 2008 - The American Dream
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Post by erri2000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:31 am

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Theme 2008 - The American Dream
And what does that mean to Donna Matrix? What is your American Dream?
It is alot like sex,
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:31 am

BRING IN ON

I absolutely support FREE SPEECH!
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:35 am

American Dream = All Constitutional provisions are followed by the Federal Government + All State Constitutional provisions are followed by the state governments = Freedom
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:36 am

erri - what is your American Dream?
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Post by Rob the Wop » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:42 am

Donna Matrix wrote:
I am a scientist and have studied the histories of many of the European scientist. They were, as a group, mostly Christian. Pascal (inventor of Calculus) wrote more theology books than math books. Newton - the same. Mendel was a monk. Etc. etc. etc.

Now most people site Galileo but though famous for his scientific achievements in astronomy, mathematics, and physics and infamous for his controversy with the church was, in fact, a devout Christian who saw not a divorce of religion and science but only a healthy marriage: "God is known by nature in his works, and by doctrine in his revealed word." Read his own writings. He was fighting the Catholic Church not a belief in God or Jesus. At lot of people fought with the Catholic Church - so?

"Take note, theologians, that in your desire to make matters of faith out of propositions relating to the fixity of sun and earth you run the risk of eventually having to condemn as heretics those who would declare the earth to stand still and the sun to change position - eventually, I say, at such a time as it might be physically or logically proved that the earth moves and the sun stands still."
—Galileo, Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, 1632

Do you people read?
Yes, I do read. An implication of illiteracy is very Christian of you. Shredding the other's cheek, wot?

If you wanted an education, you had no choice but to be Christian for the most part in this time period. If you wanted a patron to fund your research, they had to align with the church. Are you so delusional in your beliefs as to think a pagan or atheist could gain the same education, social status, and research funding as someone that aligned with the HRC? Are you trying to make the logical assertion that a belief in Christ equates to scientific progress?

Are you going to try and tell me that the HRC did not practice suppression? Or that these scientists that were raised, taught, and funded by the church-

Oh fuck it. I was interrupted at work, and now I don't have the desire to play this game anymore. I was going to start a list of the research/scientists that had been suppressed, jailed, whipped, or derailed by the HRC- but I have a feeling this would do no good. Neither would the Islamic and Asian influences (or ideas stolen).

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Post by BigCock » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:42 am

Donna, you definitely have it wrong about Galileo and the other scientists of his era. Read Rob's post again
Consider most of what we would call 'grant money' for research came from the Vatican or Catholic aligned sources during those times, and keep in mind that unless you claimed to be in bed with the Catholic church- you could pretty much kiss off any hope of being more than lower middle class.
Galileo was under constant threat from the church of being cut off from his scientific pursuits because his discoveries and writings about the solar system contradicted the bible which says the sun moves around the earth.

Your implication that the scientists of that day embraced Christianity out of free will is absurd.

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Post by erri2000 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:44 am

Donna Matrix wrote:BRING IN ON
I absolutely support FREE SPEECH!
YEAH DONNA MATRIX!!!!! FREE SPEECH ROCKS.

So I ask you freely, why won't you ever answer a question directly. Don't you see that is what annoys me? You have no answers for me only riddles.

Here is a tip on answering question so you won't get badgered by me.

Be honest. Then read what you wrote. Then think to yourself "What will this poor SOB not understand." And then explain it.

Other wise you are nothing other than a nuisance.
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Post by capjbadger » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:56 am

Donna Matrix wrote:Who developed math, physics, chemistry? Oh.. yea... Western Culture

Who developed medicine, sewer systems, electricity? Oh.. yea... Western Culture

Who developed roads, automobiles, planes? Oh... yea... Western Culture

And you say you don't use any of these... yet you are on the Internet... using electricity.... talking to me. You ride a horse to the store? Ever take a plane trip? Do you dig a hole in your backyard every time you take a shit? um.....

Yea... right.
Holy... There are so many things wrong with your statement I don't know where to start.

Math: Egyptians, the Greeks, the Mayans, and the Sumerians.
Physics: Greeks
Chemistry: Sorry, the Chinese had Antoine Lavoisier beat by hundreds of years.
Sewer system: Ummm hello ROME...
Electricity: Ever heard of the "Bagdad Battery?" Or a little group called the Egyptians??
Roads: Oh, hello ROME. Good to see you again.
Airplanes: Would of not gotten off the ground without the invention of the glider by Lu Ban (china) in the 5th century BC.
Cars: The first cars were steam powered. Who made the first steam engine? Heronas of Alexandria in the first century BC.

Notice the common theme here? BC. BEFORE CHRIST.
Not a single Christian in the bunch. So before you go tooting your own horn about how great the "Western Christian Civilization" is, just remember it was these people that created all this before the church even existed and kept that knowledge alive while the church helped drive the whole of Europe into the Dark Ages.

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Post by capjbadger » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:59 am

erri2000 wrote:Here is a tip on answering question so you won't get badgered by me.
Hey! Badgering is MY job. ;P *chuckle*
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Post by Kinetik V » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:06 am

Obfuscation is a common tactic employed by various people / groups that claim to offer "enlightenment" when in reality the only "enlightenment" they offer is the clearing of their own smokescreens that cover the fallacies they like to push on the unsuspecting.

I happen to like Capjbadger's reference to the great advancements that occurred in BC times...perhaps Ms. Matrix needs to pull out her history books or make a crash run through Wikipedia before continuing to open her mouth and insert her foot.

And if nothing else is made clear here...there are two simple rules to remember:
1: K.I.S.S. - keep it simple ......
2: Answer the damn questions!
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:08 am

capjbadger wrote:
Donna Matrix wrote:Who developed math, physics, chemistry? Oh.. yea... Western Culture

Who developed medicine, sewer systems, electricity? Oh.. yea... Western Culture

Who developed roads, automobiles, planes? Oh... yea... Western Culture

And you say you don't use any of these... yet you are on the Internet... using electricity.... talking to me. You ride a horse to the store? Ever take a plane trip? Do you dig a hole in your backyard every time you take a shit? um.....

Yea... right.
Holy... There are so many things wrong with your statement I don't know where to start.

Math: Egyptians, the Greeks, the Mayans, and the Sumerians.
Physics: Greeks
Chemistry: Sorry, the Chinese had Antoine Lavoisier beat by hundreds of years.
Sewer system: Ummm hello ROME...
Electricity: Ever heard of the "Bagdad Battery?" Or a little group called the Egyptians??
Roads: Oh, hello ROME. Good to see you again.
Airplanes: Would of not gotten off the ground without the invention of the glider by Lu Ban (china) in the 5th century BC.
Cars: The first cars were steam powered. Who made the first steam engine? Heronas of Alexandria in the first century BC.

Notice the common theme here? BC. BEFORE CHRIST.
Not a single Christian in the bunch. So before you go tooting your own horn about how great the "Western Christian Civilization" is, just remember it was these people that created all this before the church even existed and kept that knowledge alive while the church helped drive the whole of Europe into the Dark Ages.

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I did say "developed" not invented... duh. :roll:
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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:13 am

erri2000 wrote:A note to Donna Matrix.

I am not going to let you scare me away with your confused psychobabble. You may be able to knock my feet out from underneath me with some lame attempt to convert, but unlike others, I get up again, and again, and again. And I learn quickly what to avoid and how to react as to not cause panic.

Here is a simple example of learning I picked up from this place.

Spell check your work. Before you post unless you intend to confuse.

If you really want an answer, be honest with your question.
Note: It is amazing that elephants are afraid of mice huh?

If I don't know what a word means, don't guess look it up or ask. If it is in the dictionary, question answered.

One of the best things about this place is I can ask questions and get 100 answers and they are all different.

Then I can make up my own mind. I trust myself to make the right decisions. Why? Because I love myself, because I love God in my own way.

Why because Disco Love told me too, and I trust him more than anyone. I will watch his back like a hawk, gooey too, and dragon princess. And even though it may suck I will watch out for YOUR STUPID C*NT BIATCHPUNKASS also. I don't have a choice. I was made by society to be alarmed by people that do bad things. You win my WTF award.

I have always thought I have fucked up big in my life, but when I look at it, and "THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE" I have GOD to thank, for being able to talk to some people that don't have SUCH FUCKED UP UPBRINGINGS THAT THEY MAY ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T.

I have figured out my crimes are really only to myself. Yes some other people where involved that made them "crimes", but I was the only on that thought they bad enough to be punished. Even the people involved. It is the Spirit of the law. Not the Letter of the Law stuff. You say you are becoming learned, I am sure you can explain the definition of what "The Spirit of the Law means"

Actually fuck that shit, you will just argue, here is the definition. Spirit of the Law. http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/i ... e+law.html

And I am not going to go on. It is making my feel gross.

I have never stopped asking questions and I am not going to stop now, because I am going to find the FUCKING ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS! And when someone asks me a question I am going to answer it as HONESTLY AS I CAN. And If I give info I get from somewhere else info from someone else I am going to CITE THE SOURCE.

You are not going to scare me away.

I know there are 1,000,000 scared little mousy's just like me out there I now I am not alone. But you are not what I fear. You bore me to frustration.

The worst part is I AGREE WITH YOU NOW GET OF MY BACK! I think you are queer, and not in a good way.

Here is a joke.

Knock Knock
Who is there?
God.
God who?
What they forgot about me already.

I forgot where I heard that one, but it makes me laugh.

But I don't think you have to think it is funny.

Am I alone here? Am I truly alone? Fuck you and the horse you road in on for making me cry.

IF YOU SEE MY ASS AT THE MAN YOU BETTER TURN THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Sincerely,

A Thumper.

PS Now sister DICK, you started this now you finish it

ALL QUESTIONS WELCOME I SAY!

MAWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:16 am

BigCock wrote:Donna, you definitely have it wrong about Galileo and the other scientists of his era. Read Rob's post again
Consider most of what we would call 'grant money' for research came from the Vatican or Catholic aligned sources during those times, and keep in mind that unless you claimed to be in bed with the Catholic church- you could pretty much kiss off any hope of being more than lower middle class.
Galileo was under constant threat from the church of being cut off from his scientific pursuits because his discoveries and writings about the solar system contradicted the bible which says the sun moves around the earth.

Your implication that the scientists of that day embraced Christianity out of free will is absurd.
What? you read their own writings and then pick and choose what they meant and what they lied about based upon your own belief system?
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Post by capjbadger » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:21 am

Donna Matrix wrote:
capjbadger wrote:
Donna Matrix wrote:Who developed math, physics, chemistry? Oh.. yea... Western Culture

Who developed medicine, sewer systems, electricity? Oh.. yea... Western Culture

Who developed roads, automobiles, planes? Oh... yea... Western Culture

And you say you don't use any of these... yet you are on the Internet... using electricity.... talking to me. You ride a horse to the store? Ever take a plane trip? Do you dig a hole in your backyard every time you take a shit? um.....

Yea... right.
Holy... There are so many things wrong with your statement I don't know where to start.

Math: Egyptians, the Greeks, the Mayans, and the Sumerians.
Physics: Greeks
Chemistry: Sorry, the Chinese had Antoine Lavoisier beat by hundreds of years.
Sewer system: Ummm hello ROME...
Electricity: Ever heard of the "Bagdad Battery?" Or a little group called the Egyptians??
Roads: Oh, hello ROME. Good to see you again.
Airplanes: Would of not gotten off the ground without the invention of the glider by Lu Ban (china) in the 5th century BC.
Cars: The first cars were steam powered. Who made the first steam engine? Heronas of Alexandria in the first century BC.

Notice the common theme here? BC. BEFORE CHRIST.
Not a single Christian in the bunch. So before you go tooting your own horn about how great the "Western Christian Civilization" is, just remember it was these people that created all this before the church even existed and kept that knowledge alive while the church helped drive the whole of Europe into the Dark Ages.

Badger
I did say "developed" not invented... duh. :roll:
Wiskey Tango Foxtrot?? Try reading my post again. Only in one place did I even mention the word invention (the glider). These people DID develop all these things you listed. They are not a product of your grand vaulted western civilization.

Invent: Come up with (an idea, plan, explanation, theory, or principle) after a mental effort.
Develop: Make something new, such as a product or a mental or artistic creation.

You banter semantics while dodging the fact that you are flat wrong.
Kinetic V wrote:I happen to like Capjbadger's reference to the great advancements that occurred in BC times...perhaps Ms. Matrix needs to pull out her history books or make a crash run through Wikipedia before continuing to open her mouth and insert her foot.
Thank you. :)


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Post by capjbadger » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:26 am

Donna Matrix wrote: What? you read their own writings and then pick and choose what they meant and what they lied about based upon your own belief system?
You seem to think it's ok do with the book of GOD (aka the Bible). Why shouldn't they follow your example? :roll:

Read your history. It is well known that scientists of that era wrote church supporting stuff in their publicly accessable works out of fear of the church and reserved their true thoughts to their private diaries that we am now uncovering.

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Post by Donna Matrix » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:36 am

what dictionary are you using?

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
de·vel·op /dɪˈvɛləp/ [di-vel-uhp]
–verb (used with object)
1. to bring out the capabilities or possibilities of; bring to a more advanced or effective state: to develop natural resources; to develop one's musical talent.
2. to cause to grow or expand: to develop one's muscles.
3. to elaborate or expand in detail: to develop a theory.
4. to bring into being or activity; generate; evolve.
5. Drafting. to transfer the details of (a more or less two-dimensional design, pattern, or the like) from one surface, esp. one that is prismatic or cylindrical, onto another, usually planar, in such a way that the distances between points remain the same.
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[Origin: 1585–95; < MF développer, OF desveloper, equiv. to des- dis-1 + voloper to wrap up; see envelop]

—Related forms
de·vel·op·a·ble, adjective
de·vel·op·a·bil·i·ty, noun
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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This de·vel·op (dĭ-věl'əp) Pronunciation Key
v. de·vel·oped, de·vel·op·ing, de·vel·ops

v. tr.

To bring from latency to or toward fulfillment: an instructor who develops the capabilities of each student.

To expand or enlarge: developed a national corporation into a worldwide business.
To aid in the growth of; strengthen: exercises that develop muscles.
To improve the quality of; refine: develops his recipes to perfection; an extra year of study to develop virtuosic technique.
To cause to become more complex or intricate; add detail and fullness to; elaborate: began with a good premise but developed it without imagination.
Music To elaborate (a theme) with rhythmic and harmonic variations.
To bring into being gradually: develop a new cottage industry.
To set forth or clarify by degrees: developed her thesis in a series of articles.
To come to have gradually; acquire: develop a taste for opera; develop a friendship.
To become affected with; contract; developed a rash; developed agoraphobia.
To influence the behavior of toward a specific end: an investigator who develops witnesses through flattery and intimidation.
To cause (a tract of land) to serve a particular purpose: developed the site as a community of condominiums.
To make available and effective to fulfill a particular end or need: develop the state's water resources to serve a growing population.
To convert or transform: developed the play into a movie.
To process (a photosensitive material), especially with chemicals, in order to render a recorded image visible.
To render (an image) visible by this means.

To cause to become more complex or intricate; add detail and fullness to; elaborate: began with a good premise but developed it without imagination.
Music To elaborate (a theme) with rhythmic and harmonic variations.
To bring into being gradually: develop a new cottage industry.
To set forth or clarify by degrees: developed her thesis in a series of articles.
To come to have gradually; acquire: develop a taste for opera; develop a friendship.
To become affected with; contract; developed a rash; developed agoraphobia.
To influence the behavior of toward a specific end: an investigator who develops witnesses through flattery and intimidation.
To cause (a tract of land) to serve a particular purpose: developed the site as a community of condominiums.
To make available and effective to fulfill a particular end or need: develop the state's water resources to serve a growing population.
To convert or transform: developed the play into a movie.
To process (a photosensitive material), especially with chemicals, in order to render a recorded image visible.
To render (an image) visible by this means.

To bring into being gradually: develop a new cottage industry.
To set forth or clarify by degrees: developed her thesis in a series of articles.
To come to have gradually; acquire: develop a taste for opera; develop a friendship.
To become affected with; contract; developed a rash; developed agoraphobia.
To influence the behavior of toward a specific end: an investigator who develops witnesses through flattery and intimidation.
To cause (a tract of land) to serve a particular purpose: developed the site as a community of condominiums.
To make available and effective to fulfill a particular end or need: develop the state's water resources to serve a growing population.
To convert or transform: developed the play into a movie.
To process (a photosensitive material), especially with chemicals, in order to render a recorded image visible.
To render (an image) visible by this means.

To come to have gradually; acquire: develop a taste for opera; develop a friendship.
To become affected with; contract; developed a rash; developed agoraphobia.
To influence the behavior of toward a specific end: an investigator who develops witnesses through flattery and intimidation.
To cause (a tract of land) to serve a particular purpose: developed the site as a community of condominiums.
To make available and effective to fulfill a particular end or need: develop the state's water resources to serve a growing population.
To convert or transform: developed the play into a movie.
To process (a photosensitive material), especially with chemicals, in order to render a recorded image visible.
To render (an image) visible by this means.
To cause gradually to acquire a specific role, function, or form, as:
To influence the behavior of toward a specific end: an investigator who develops witnesses through flattery and intimidation.
To cause (a tract of land) to serve a particular purpose: developed the site as a community of condominiums.
To make available and effective to fulfill a particular end or need: develop the state's water resources to serve a growing population.
To convert or transform: developed the play into a movie.
To process (a photosensitive material), especially with chemicals, in order to render a recorded image visible.
To render (an image) visible by this means.
Games To move (a chess piece) to or toward a more strategic position.

To process (a photosensitive material), especially with chemicals, in order to render a recorded image visible.
To render (an image) visible by this means.

v. intr.


To grow by degrees into a more advanced or mature state: With hard work, she developed into a great writer. See Synonyms at mature.
To increase or expand.
To improve; advance: Their skill developed until it rivaled their teacher's.
To progress from earlier to later stages of a life cycle: Caterpillars develop into butterflies.
To progress from earlier to later or from simpler to more complex stages of evolution.
To come gradually into existence or activity: Tension developed between students and faculty.
To come gradually to light; be disclosed: reports the news as it develops.
Biology
To progress from earlier to later stages of a life cycle: Caterpillars develop into butterflies.
To progress from earlier to later or from simpler to more complex stages of evolution.


[French développer, from Old French desveloper : des-, dis- + voloper, to wrap (possibly of Celtic origin).]

de·vel'op·a·ble adj.

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1656, "unroll, unfold," from Fr. developper, replacing Eng. disvelop (1592, from M.Fr. desveloper), both from O.Fr. desveloper, from des- "undo" + veloper "wrap up," of uncertain origin, possibly Celt. or Gmc. Modern figurative use is 18c. The photographic sense is from 1845; the real estate sense is from 1890. Development first attested 1756.

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verb
1. make something new, such as a product or a mental or artistic creation; "Her company developed a new kind of building material that withstands all kinds of weather"; "They developed a new technique"
2. work out; "We have developed a new theory of evolution" [syn: evolve]
3. gain through experience; "I acquired a strong aversion to television"; "Children must develop a sense of right and wrong"; "Dave developed leadership qualities in his new position"; "develop a passion for painting"
4. come to have or undergo a change of (physical features and attributes); "He grew a beard"; "The patient developed abdominal pains"; "I got funny spots all over my body"; "Well-developed breasts" [syn: grow]
5. come into existence; take on form or shape; "A new religious movement originated in that country"; "a love that sprang up from friendship"; "the idea for the book grew out of a short story"; "An interesting phenomenon uprose" [syn: originate]
6. change the use of and make available or usable; "develop land"; "The country developed its natural resources"; "The remote areas of the country were gradually built up" [syn: build up]
7. elaborate, as of theories and hypotheses; "Could you develop the ideas in your thesis" [syn: explicate]
8. create by training and teaching; "The old master is training world-class violinists"; "we develop the leaders for the future" [syn: train]
9. be gradually disclosed or unfolded; become manifest; "The plot developed slowly";
10. grow, progress, unfold, or evolve through a process of evolution, natural growth, differentiation, or a conducive environment; "A flower developed on the branch"; "The country developed into a mighty superpower"; "The embryo develops into a fetus"; "This situation has developed over a long time"
11. become technologically advanced; "Many countries in Asia are now developing at a very fast pace"; "Viet Nam is modernizing rapidly" [syn: modernize]
12. cause to grow and differentiate in ways conforming to its natural development; "The perfect climate here develops the grain"; "He developed a new kind of apple"
13. generate gradually; "We must develop more potential customers"; "develop a market for the new mobile phone"
14. grow emotionally or mature; "The child developed beautifully in her new kindergarten"; "When he spent a summer at camp, the boy grew noticeably and no longer showed some of his old adolescent behavior"
15. make visible by means of chemical solutions; "Please develop this roll of film for me"
16. superimpose a three-dimensional surface on a plane without stretching, in geometry
17. move one's pieces into strategically more advantageous positions; "Spassky developed quickly"
18. move into a strategically more advantageous position; "develop the rook"
19. elaborate by the unfolding of a musical idea and by the working out of the rhythmic and harmonic changes in the theme; "develop the melody and change the key"
20. happen; "Report the news as it develops"; "These political movements recrudesce from time to time" [syn: break]
21. expand in the form of a series; "Develop the function in the following form"

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