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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:17 pm

Thanks Kinetic. Brilliant. Vote for Cindy Sheehan (if you can move to SF) Cindy's running for that sell out douche bag failure's seat.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:37 pm

cowboyangel wrote:Thanks Kinetic. Brilliant. Vote for Cindy Sheehan (if you can move to SF) Cindy's running for that sell out douche bag failure's seat.
What's more important?

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:15 am

Oh boy, get ready for the Iran war now that Wilfrowitz in back on the bush admin.


http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0 ... tml?hp[url]

Barracks economic plan was rated A-, a full grade above the rest of both parties candidates!

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Post by Kinetik V » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:25 pm

The JFK Conspiracy: The National Archives just moved the entire operating room from Parkland Hospital that was used to treat JFK. It's now in the limestone caves below Lenexa, KS.

Source: http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/465116.html

JFK emergency room moves to underground storage in Lenexa
By BRIAN BURNES
The Kansas City Star

(Image omitted)

The Parkland Memorial Hospital emergency room on Nov. 22, 1963, the day President John F. Kennedy was shot. The federal government has found a new home for medical equipment used in the attempt to save President John F. Kennedy’s life on Nov. 22, 1963:

Beneath Lenexa.

The artifacts, known to archivists as the Parkland Memorial Hospital Trauma Room #1 collection, are now in underground storage at the Johnson County site, leased by the regional records center of the Central Plains Region facility of the National Archives and Records Administration.

Trucked in from the archives’ Fort Worth, Texas, facility, the items range from the poignant — such as a wheeled stretcher — to the mundane, such as a wall clock, a trash can, a wall-mounted towel dispenser and even the room’s front door.

All the artifacts have been secured within the Lenexa storage facility, according to Reed Whitaker, regional administrator of the Central Plains Region.

The local facility, following archives policy, does not allow access to the Parkland Hospital material or any photographs of it. Archives officials also declined The Kansas City Star’s request to visit the artifacts’ storage area.

“The artifacts are secured,â€
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Post by DVD Burner » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:58 pm

Well that was nice to know K.


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Post by Kinetik V » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:19 am

It kinda makes me wonder what else is stored in the National Archives.....not that our government would ever hide anything from the public, nope...they've never done that.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:11 pm

Kinetic V wrote:It kinda makes me wonder what else is stored in the National Archives......
Baby Jane, Jimmy Hoffa, people missing from the Bermuda Triangle and all the those socks you lost in the dryer!

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Post by Green Wood » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:09 am

Bush steals from the poor and gives to the rich with his 3.1 Trillion budget leaves legacy of the biggest deficit ever to democrats!

Just the way to say, Fuck You America! I hate you!

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-B ... ref=slogin

Just like his economy plan it just to prop up stocks so the rich that suck the money out of the real estate market then put it in the stock market waited for it to go to 14000 then sucked it out to make the largest gains and stole the retirement money from the worker/ slaves!

If you want to make some real money SHORT the market, because its is going back to 7 or 8 thousand in less then two years!

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:52 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
Kinetic V wrote:It kinda makes me wonder what else is stored in the National Archives......
Baby Jane, Jimmy Hoffa, people missing from the Bermuda Triangle and all the those socks you lost in the dryer!
They are all left socks, by the way. Little known fact.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:38 am

Welcome back JOEL

I knew you would show your ugly head the closer we got to the election!

You are just an old dog that ran off with your tail between your knees.

Lets get back to Iraq war. You know how you killed the hundreds of innocent! Supported an illegal war! Took out the only aversary of Iran in the region- Israel can't afford to go to war and they only play behind the scenes to have others do their deadly work!

Lets talk about how we are involve in a civil war in Iraq! Yes we are!
Hey lets talk about how the republicans platform is a lie and back it up with FACTS! You can't do that, can you?

You are a murderer just like this Repblican ADmin!

Go ahead say your lies. You are in good company, but that's ending next year, but only you will not change!

Welcome back and now GO HOME!

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Dow is a bear market!

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Post by joel the ornery » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:36 pm

aiiz, you are quite the knucklehead, aren't you.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:30 pm

What a nice little group of burners you are.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:43 am

Clinton refuses to release her tax return.

Does she fear that she will disinfranchise middle and lower class constituency when they find out that she has profited from political/ economic ties?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/08/us/po ... on.html?hp

Statistics on the ethnicity vote show that Obama had lost votes in the Jewish, Latini and Oriental communites allowing Hillary to win in AZ, CA, NJ and NY!

Are these the new hate groups of America since Obama had shown winning the White vote in these states?

I love America where money dominates everything!

Time to donate to Obama!

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Ooops, clicked the wrong button again!

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Post by dr.placebo » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:23 pm

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The images in the Basra police file are nauseating: Page after page of women killed in brutal fashion -- some strangled to death, their faces disfigured; others beheaded. All bear signs of torture.

The women are killed, police say, because they failed to wear a headscarf or because they ignored other "rules" that secretive fundamentalist groups want to enforce.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/ ... index.html

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Post by mdmf007 » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:40 pm

If the Middle East had not been dealt a wild card called oil. The rest of the world would not deal with them at all. They would be a quaint people that lived in huts in the desert.

After the oil is gone, thats where they will be again.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:48 pm

Paris Hilton question by Larry King Live, "when did you last vote?"

Paris (prodigy of mindless dough) "hmmmm, (pause of 20 seconds or more), “the Laaaaast, Eeeeeeelection?.. Preeeeesiiiiiiidential.â€

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:17 pm

FBI program alleged to prepare businesses for martial law
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Published: Friday February 8, 2008

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_progr ... _0208.html


A public-private partnership program on infrastructure preparedness and protection run by the Federal Bureau of Investigation allegedly has briefed its corporate members on the possibility of martial law and the use of lethal force, according to an exclusive report in the magazine The Progressive.

"One business owner in the United States tells me that InfraGard members are being advised on how to prepare for a martial law situation—and what their role might be," writes Matthew Rothschild in the Feb. 7 report, quoting an anonymous whistleblower on the program. "'Then they said when—not if—martial law is declared, it was our responsibility to protect our portion of the infrastructure, and if we had to use deadly force to protect it, we couldn’t be prosecuted,' he says."

Rothschild's report details InfraGard, a program set up between the FBI and a number of businesses engaged in maintaining elements of "critical national infrastructure," such as agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation. The program's 23,000-plus members provide information to the FBI and in turn receive privileged information from the FBI on threats to infrastructure.

In one case, Rothschild expalined, InfraGard members appeared to get details on a threat to California's bridges prior to then-Gov. Gray Davis. The California governor was informed by his brother Barry, a banker, of the danger potentially faced by the state's residents.

"I was on the phone with my brother, who is an investment banker. And if he knows, why shouldn’t the public know?" Davis' former press secretary Steve Maviglio quotes the governor as saying, according to Rothschild.

The FBI called accusations of deputizing businesses to shoot-to-kill in emergency situations "ridiculous."

“If you want to quote a businessperson saying that, knock yourself out. If that’s what you want to print, fine," a spokeswoman for the bureau told Rothschild.

The full article can be read at the Progressive website. . .
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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:51 pm

Army Sniper Convicted of Killing Iraqi



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By BRADLEY BROOKS – 55 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — A military jury on Sunday convicted an Army sniper of murder and sentenced him to 10 years in prison for killing an Iraqi civilian who wandered into the hiding place where six soldiers were sleeping.

Sgt. Evan Vela, 24, was found guilty of murder without premeditation, of aiding and abetting in planting an AK-47 on the dead man's body and of lying to military investigators about the shooting. He had faced a possible life sentence.

Vela showed no emotion when the verdict was read, but he asked the jury for mercy before it broke to decide his sentence. He apologized to the court, the Army and one of the sons of Genei Nasir al-Janabi, the man he shot with a pistol in May.

"When I came to Iraq, I didn't come to do anything wrong," Vela said, reading from a handwritten statement. "I failed my standards, your standards and the standards of the Army. All I can say is I'm sorry and ask for mercy."

Vela has been in confinement in Kuwait since July 1. That time will be credited to his sentence, the judge said. He was also sentenced to forfeit all pay and allowances and will receive a dishonorable discharge. The case was automatically referred to a military appeals court.

Vela's trial was the last of three snipers in the unit accused in a series of shooting deaths south of Baghdad that defense lawyers said happened under command pressure to increase kill counts and, perhaps, employ questionable tactics in doing so.

The Army has declined to confirm that any such program existed, saying it does not discuss tactics used in the field.

Vela and several of his fellow Army snipers testified that they were confused and exhausted after more than two days of trekking in high temperatures through the rough terrain near Iskandariyah, a mostly Sunni Arab city 30 miles south of Baghdad.

On the morning of May 11, the six soldiers had gone to sleep inside their "hide" — where snipers can observe targets without being seen — when al-Janabi stumbled upon them, they recounted.

The snipers detained al-Janabi and the man's 17-year-old son Mustafa. They freed the boy, but minutes after he walked off, the commander ordered Vela to shoot the father. The soldiers said al-Janabi was making noise and they feared he was trying to attract the attention of a group of military-age males they thought they saw nearby.

"It's a simple case," said Capt. Jason Nef, one of two military prosecutors. "The reason is because Vela confessed on the stand that he lied. He confessed he killed an unarmed Iraqi."

Vela's lawyer, James Culp, said the case was anything but simple because of the extreme mental and physical fatigue that affected the snipers' actions.

"This was an accident waiting to happen," Culp told the jury of seven men and one woman in his closing argument. "These men were extremely, extremely sleep deprived and nobody was thinking clearly."

After the verdict, Mustafa, who had testified at the court-martial, said he was impressed with the U.S. military court system.

"I find the Americans have more fairness than the Arabs," he said. "Their system is so fair that even if the judge were (Vela's) family member, he would have been convicted."

Mustafa reminded jurors before they began sentence deliberations of the pain he, his mother and five siblings have endured.

"I know this criminal has a family, a wife and children," he said. "Just like they will miss him, we also miss our father. So I hope you will consider that and please not forget about us."

Two other members of Vela's unit were acquitted of murder charges in al-Janabi's shooting or other killings that occurred around the same time.

Jorge G. Sandoval, who was a specialist at the time but had his rank reduced to private as part of his sentencing, was found not guilty in September of killing two unarmed Iraqis in April and May. He was convicted of planting evidence on one of the men.

Sgt. Michael A. Hensley was acquitted of murder in all three deaths, but he was convicted of planting evidence by placing a rifle with al-Janabi's body.

Hensley said the unit had been pressured by his commanders to wrack up kills. His unit had been in Iraq for only a few months and had taken up to 25 casualties without inflicting much damage on insurgents, he said.

"They were tired of people getting killed and us not getting any kills in return," Hensley said. "There was definitely some pressure. If we came back from a mission and we didn't get kills, we were talked to."
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:45 pm

Lets take Dick Cheney on a Taxi Ride to the dark side

http://movies.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/movies/18taxi.html
it's just a small step for man, and a smaller step for mankind to walk into the death camps.

We should note that there is no law that says that bush, cheney or rumsfeld can't be prosecuted for war crimes or treason after they leave office!

No laws are on the books protecting them!

So remember that when you vote for Barrack!

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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:52 pm

A Reiteration

What racism is all about.



Just not many Americans know this is what it is or the result of it.




DVD Burner wrote:Army Sniper Convicted of Killing Iraqi



http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-zT ... wD8UNN5AO0

By BRADLEY BROOKS – 55 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — A military jury on Sunday convicted an Army sniper of murder and sentenced him to 10 years in prison for killing an Iraqi civilian who wandered into the hiding place where six soldiers were sleeping.

Sgt. Evan Vela, 24, was found guilty of murder without premeditation, of aiding and abetting in planting an AK-47 on the dead man's body and of lying to military investigators about the shooting. He had faced a possible life sentence.

Vela showed no emotion when the verdict was read, but he asked the jury for mercy before it broke to decide his sentence. He apologized to the court, the Army and one of the sons of Genei Nasir al-Janabi, the man he shot with a pistol in May.

"When I came to Iraq, I didn't come to do anything wrong," Vela said, reading from a handwritten statement. "I failed my standards, your standards and the standards of the Army. All I can say is I'm sorry and ask for mercy."

Vela has been in confinement in Kuwait since July 1. That time will be credited to his sentence, the judge said. He was also sentenced to forfeit all pay and allowances and will receive a dishonorable discharge. The case was automatically referred to a military appeals court.

Vela's trial was the last of three snipers in the unit accused in a series of shooting deaths south of Baghdad that defense lawyers said happened under command pressure to increase kill counts and, perhaps, employ questionable tactics in doing so.

The Army has declined to confirm that any such program existed, saying it does not discuss tactics used in the field.

Vela and several of his fellow Army snipers testified that they were confused and exhausted after more than two days of trekking in high temperatures through the rough terrain near Iskandariyah, a mostly Sunni Arab city 30 miles south of Baghdad.

On the morning of May 11, the six soldiers had gone to sleep inside their "hide" — where snipers can observe targets without being seen — when al-Janabi stumbled upon them, they recounted.

The snipers detained al-Janabi and the man's 17-year-old son Mustafa. They freed the boy, but minutes after he walked off, the commander ordered Vela to shoot the father. The soldiers said al-Janabi was making noise and they feared he was trying to attract the attention of a group of military-age males they thought they saw nearby.

"It's a simple case," said Capt. Jason Nef, one of two military prosecutors. "The reason is because Vela confessed on the stand that he lied. He confessed he killed an unarmed Iraqi."

Vela's lawyer, James Culp, said the case was anything but simple because of the extreme mental and physical fatigue that affected the snipers' actions.

"This was an accident waiting to happen," Culp told the jury of seven men and one woman in his closing argument. "These men were extremely, extremely sleep deprived and nobody was thinking clearly."

After the verdict, Mustafa, who had testified at the court-martial, said he was impressed with the U.S. military court system.

"I find the Americans have more fairness than the Arabs," he said. "Their system is so fair that even if the judge were (Vela's) family member, he would have been convicted."

Mustafa reminded jurors before they began sentence deliberations of the pain he, his mother and five siblings have endured.

"I know this criminal has a family, a wife and children," he said. "Just like they will miss him, we also miss our father. So I hope you will consider that and please not forget about us."

Two other members of Vela's unit were acquitted of murder charges in al-Janabi's shooting or other killings that occurred around the same time.

Jorge G. Sandoval, who was a specialist at the time but had his rank reduced to private as part of his sentencing, was found not guilty in September of killing two unarmed Iraqis in April and May. He was convicted of planting evidence on one of the men.

Sgt. Michael A. Hensley was acquitted of murder in all three deaths, but he was convicted of planting evidence by placing a rifle with al-Janabi's body.

Hensley said the unit had been pressured by his commanders to wrack up kills. His unit had been in Iraq for only a few months and had taken up to 25 casualties without inflicting much damage on insurgents, he said.

"They were tired of people getting killed and us not getting any kills in return," Hensley said. "There was definitely some pressure. If we came back from a mission and we didn't get kills, we were talked to."
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That looks like it is going to be intense.


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Post by can't sit still » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:46 pm

Somebody thinks that the ship of state is taking on water.
http://64.233.187.99/search?q=cache:poH ... =clnk&cd=1

Are the rats jumping ship?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/27125.html

It's getting more interesting by the minute. :mrgreen:
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Post by mdmf007 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:28 pm

Who the hell would register a website with that long an address?

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Post by can't sit still » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:08 pm

If I was competent, I would do "tiny URL",,, but I'm incompetent :mrgreen:
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:41 pm

DVD Burner wrote:That looks like it is going to be intense.


Thanks for posting.

I look forward to seeing it.
I’ll be looking for it in the NY area while I’m here. When you look at what happened to the soldiers and prisoners you wonder how did this happen and no officer or the departments that allowed this to happen weren’t prosecuted that includes Bush to Rumsfeld to the persons or officers in the hierarchy. They knew what would happen to people from psychological tests that are placed in these positions of power. The dark side will always come out! Poor soldiers didn't even know what was happening to them and they were the victims as well.

Market outlook: when up today with a 30 day moratorium on foreclosures- and 30 days from now it will be back to the dumps. A lot of people are months behind on their payments. The banks are just not foreclosing because it would cost more to process the home then so they just let the buyer stay in the home for now.

The economic stimulus plan is a short term fix to allow the “Turn that Houseâ€

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Post by Kinetik V » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:15 pm

Market outlook: when up today with a 30 day moratorium on foreclosures- and 30 days from now it will be back to the dumps. A lot of people are months behind on their payments. The banks are just not foreclosing because it would cost more to process the home then so they just let the buyer stay in the home for now.
That's the case with my house in KC. Countrywide had the papers to complete an "FHA Deed In Lieu Of" arrangement 2 1/2 weeks ago. When I called them this week they said they still haven't assigned my case to anyone for processing.

They're about to get an expedite order via the U.S. District Court to move them off their asses.

While I'm at it, I think the so called stimulus bill is a fucking joke, I think that the U.S. House is a bunch of mindless, clueless morons that haven't got even the slightest clue of how life is outside the beltway for the average American, I think Nancy Pelosi is the sorriest excuse for a Speaker of the House in American history, our current Democratic leadership in the House has forgot how to lead, and this latest fucking moratorium ain't going to mean a fucking thing when it's all said and done.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:24 am

Kinetic V wrote:
Market outlook: when up today with a 30 day moratorium on foreclosures- and 30 days from now it will be back to the dumps. A lot of people are months behind on their payments. The banks are just not foreclosing because it would cost more to process the home then so they just let the buyer stay in the home for now.
That's the case with my house in KC. Countrywide had the papers to complete an "FHA Deed In Lieu Of" arrangement 2 1/2 weeks ago. When I called them this week they said they still haven't assigned my case to anyone for processing.

They're about to get an expedite order via the U.S. District Court to move them off their asses.

While I'm at it, I think the so called stimulus bill is a fucking joke, I think that the U.S. House is a bunch of mindless, clueless morons that haven't got even the slightest clue of how life is outside the beltway for the average American, I think Nancy Pelosi is the sorriest excuse for a Speaker of the House in American history, our current Democratic leadership in the House has forgot how to lead, and this latest fucking moratorium ain't going to mean a fucking thing when it's all said and done.
Hey, the Dems didn't get their bill through. You would have had 90 days of moratorium and money to boot but that bill didn't make it.

You know what a the original "Pork Barrel" is? After harvest or during holidays like Jesus Day, the slave owners would literally throw the slaves a barrel of pork and watch the slaves fight over it. The America worker is just that a fucking slave to the government and the banks! Once the pork is gone nothing will occurs except a blimp in the market and like I said above, of which you agree, its back into the dumps. If you have some money buy some stock to short when we are at the top of the blimp its going to be a fast ride to the market bottom of two years ago then to three! Barrack is going to get in. McCains vote on banking and the hosing market will come out and he will not survive the backlash against the establishment.

He didn't even vote on the Dems Bill.

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Taxi to the Dark Side a movie all americans should see. See how our military and covert departments act! We are no better then Saddam! You see we torture if we think we won’t get caught! we have always done what best suits US and damn international law.

KV- best of luck on saving your home! Wish you the best!

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