Boycott The Olympics?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:28 pm

The olympics handcuffs flag

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7310654.stm

http://osocio.org/category/beijing_olympics/

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:27 pm

I'm boycotting everything China, but let the olympics go on for the athletes. Just don't go over there or buy their products. Sadly I don't even go to Chinese restaurants because you can't trust their products. I wonder how long have they been poisoning Americans.

AIIZ

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:58 pm

I'm sure many of the chinese restaurants are run by the descendants of people who left red china because they didn't like it there. I don't know what products you can't trust and why, so it's difficult to know if that statement is credible, but if I've learned something living near the country's largest Chinatown it's that there's not a lot of support for mainland china in this country's chinese population.

Rolan Headon · Post by **Rolan Headon** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:24 pm

Ah, you know what Confuse-us say

"Turned on the radio, what did I hear?
Man tellin' me they canceled spring next year..."

(sung to the tune of "They Say Cocaine Is For Horses And Not For Men..."

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:37 am

we will be in a cold war soon enough with the chinese...they will be the new boogie man, albeit with slanty inscrutable eyes.

we had commies, we had narco-terrorists, plain old terrorists, and now folks, for the next 50-100 years, our sworn enemy in the rush to secure resources will be the Chinese.

lets get this party started right.....everybody stay home, and let the chinese lose face, money, and status...

a global bitch slap is needed, now, before it's too late.

MacArthur must be chuckling in his grave.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:50 am

So what are we doing to boycott? Besides not competing, I got that one down.
Not watching the show on TV? Oh, boy, that's known to stop tyrants dead in their tracks, low Neilsen ratings.
Seriously.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:15 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:I'm sure many of the chinese restaurants are run by the descendants of people who left red china because they didn't like it there. I don't know what products you can't trust and why, so it's difficult to know if that statement is credible, but if I've learned something living near the country's largest Chinatown it's that there's not a lot of support for mainland china in this country's chinese population.

Have you gone into a chinese market. Lots of products from mainland and if you can find poisons in pharmaceuticals then what about the feeds given to shrimp farms or any number of agricultural products. How do you know how safe products that come from taiwan and where are the true sources of their products. I just don't trust it so i'm not taking chances and I love chinese.

I'm just playing it safe. But I'm not buying chinese product again!

I love the olympics. Watch them, but don't go there in person. That is the kind of boycott that supports the athletes and takes the profit away from the government.

It's too late to stop the television stations, they already paid for the rights.

And don't blame the olympic federation. The olympics are about peaceful competitions. Yes its been abused by governments, but for the athletes this is their show.

Activists like David Kilgour is counterproductive. He doesn't know how this event will showcase Tibet and bring to the forefront of international abuses. Most people have forgotten about Tibet. Now its headline news and china has to deal with it like never before.

In this interview on NPR, David doesn't know who the problem is and its not the olympic fed. Its china:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=89195074

AIIZ

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:30 pm

Fuck Red China, and fuck Tibet too, it's a fucking theocracy. And fuck the Olympics, too. I don't believe for a second you buhrnurz give a shit about sports, other than about the fucking Red Sox.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:38 pm

They always make a point of how many medals each country wins.
I think the new olympics is a for profit company that is politics, not sports.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:07 am

Bob wrote:Fuck Red China, and fuck Tibet too, it's a fucking theocracy. And fuck the Olympics, too. I don't believe for a second you buhrnurz give a shit about sports, other than about the fucking Red Sox.

Someone's pissed because they just realized how bad the Giants are going to SUCK this year.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:54 am

i dunno, sounds like Boston Bashing to me....Bob dont like the Home of the Bean and the Cod, where the cabots speak only to Lowells, and Lowells speak only to god.....or maybe a particular crew from that neck of the woods.

bitter, bob, bitter....

(ps. being from western new york, i was all too happy to see the pats go down in flames....now they know how it feels to pull a buffalo.)

(p.s.s...we call them massholes.)

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:22 am

Bob wrote:Fuck Red China...

It's a big country. Bring some lube.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:13 pm

France out of North America!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:33 pm

Fuck everything

Fuck the Red Socks and the Yankees

Fuck the war and Bush!

Fuck Zeus and the Olympics!
(its a pagan religious event anyway)

fuck fuck fuck fuck!!!!!

I love thread drift

rus bowden · Post by **rus bowden** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:50 pm

Hi All,

You may help the cause through this important action-oriented "Petition to Chinese President Hu Jintao":

Avaaz.org: Stand with Tibet--Support the Dalai Lama

There are over 600,000 more signatures needed worldwide as I write. Some of you may also want to join in with the International Day of Action that has been declared for Monday, March 31st. In 3 days, thousands of people in cities across the world will march to Chinese embassies. The IBPC poets' signed petitions will be part of this:

Join the Global Day of Action for Tibet

Here is a late-breaking news statement from the Website of the Office of His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso:

An Appeal to the Chinese People

Here is an excerpt, a quote from the Dalai Lama:

This year, the Chinese people are proudly and eagerly awaiting the opening of the Olympic Games. I have, from the start, supported Beijingâ€™s being awarded the opportunity to host the Games. My position remains unchanged.

For those who would like to delve further into what is going on about Tibet, here is the Radio Free Asia blog of Great Regular Luisetta Mudie:

RFA Unplugged

Thanks.

Yours,
Rus

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:34 pm

Did you guys see the coverage of the monitored visit by journalists to Lhasa?
One of the monks broke from the script and said "It's all fake!, We want to be free!"
They were arrested and the monastery surrounded.

dana · Post by **dana** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:12 pm

gyre wrote:Did you guys see the coverage of the monitored visit by journalists to Lhasa?
One of the monks broke from the script and said "It's all fake!, We want to be free!"
They were arrested and the monastery surrounded.

And then most likely taken off somewhere away from prying eyes and ears, where they could be tortured.

(Its happened to enough monks already.) The Chinese government has much to answer for.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:21 am

Olympic Torch goes dark as protesters in france extinqush the flame.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/world ... ref=slogin

One has to ask is why is the torch run going through almost every free county in the western world when it is being hosted by a country where freedom is against the law. Not to say that here in America that we are truly free of we are not because of fascist government and their cronies- DEA, FBI and military intelligence and who knows what other secret department in our government, but we are not as restricted as China. I can at least write this and not be afraid of our government until they find out what illegal activities from their continuous surveillance on social activists.

I canâ€™t image how this flame is going to make it through any so called free nation with incident and major police protection in every free country. China will stop the run out side China!

And remember Buy your products from a free country and don't attend the events because you are free to do so!

AIIZ

PS- just wait till the flame makes to SF

KitsuneCaligari · Post by **KitsuneCaligari** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:29 pm

Seems there are already plans afoot....

http://laughingsquid.com/squidlist/even ... 8&month=04

KitsuneCaligari · Post by **KitsuneCaligari** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:05 pm

Also, this:

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=11740

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:14 pm

I still fail to see how this is going to change China's policy towards Tibet.

dana · Post by **dana** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:02 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:I still fail to see how this is going to change China's policy towards Tibet.

How does any change in society or a government happen?

Sometimes through war, legislation, influx of new populations, revolutions (peaceful or otherwise), etc.
Don't they all start with an idea, a disagreement, prejudice, anger, hopes, ideals? A mere thought or imagining which sparked others?
Does anyone honestly expect the Chinese government is suddenly going to admit - "Well... guldarnnit! Look at how stupid we've been. Let's set them nice Tibetan folk free!!"

But maybe a gradual movement toward a better record of human rights, more autonomy taking place over time. I think there is already a lot of liberalization taking place in China, partly spreading from Hong Kong and its more cosmopolitan outlook.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:33 pm

KitsuneCaligari wrote:Seems there are already plans afoot....

http://laughingsquid.com/squidlist/even ... 8&month=04

Now that a protest: the naked truth!

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:58 am

Ya, nude torch run, with the eyes of the world on SF. Great. Tibetan nuns are being shot in the back at Nanga Pass, France puts out the torch and we do a nude run. Hopefully, there will be a sizable contingent of Tibet protesters on hand as well.

http://indybay.org

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:49 am

Ya, nude torch run, with the eyes of the world on SF. Great.

Agreed. Such lame-ass, self-serving bullshit serves only to diminish the substantive issues facing Tibetans and the Sudanese in Darfur.

My inner, non-pacifist side of me thinks the naked yoga guy needs to be punched in the throat.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:03 pm

It wouldn't change me, and I'm not a totalitarian regime.

Call me a burned-out old fart if you will. I have sung as many verses of Kumbaya as the next drug-addled hippy, but I can see as it's changed anything.

The place to protest would be in Beijing, but now that the protesters have tipped their hand, it'll be impossible for anything to me mounted.

dana wrote:
Ugly Dougly wrote:I still fail to see how this is going to change China's policy towards Tibet.
How does any change in society or a government happen?

Sometimes through war, legislation, influx of new populations, revolutions (peaceful or otherwise), etc.
Don't they all start with an idea, a disagreement, prejudice, anger, hopes, ideals? A mere thought or imagining which sparked others?
Does anyone honestly expect the Chinese government is suddenly going to admit - "Well... guldarnnit! Look at how stupid we've been. Let's set them nice Tibetan folk free!!"

But maybe a gradual movement toward a better record of human rights, more autonomy taking place over time. I think there is already a lot of liberalization taking place in China, partly spreading from Hong Kong and its more cosmopolitan outlook.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:24 pm

Badger wrote:
Ya, nude torch run, with the eyes of the world on SF. Great.
Agreed. Such lame-ass, self-serving bullshit serves only to diminish the substantive issues facing Tibetans and the Sudanese in Darfur.

My inner, non-pacifist side of me thinks the naked yoga guy needs to be punched in the throat.

well. maybe tied down to a fire ant hill covered in honey instead?

Josh Wolf had an interesting blog for Tibet going at http://twitter.com/sftorch/with_friends

Glad Richard Gere and Desmond Tutu spoke at the UN Plaza.

The Chinese are brutal culture killers. By all means shine the light of Human Rights and the right of religious expression on these polluting cockroaches.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:08 pm

It turns out the olympic group didn't want china to do a torch run at all.
Damaging their brand and all.
China is manufacturing enough bad vibes to run a hoodoo factory.

Ten playa points to anyone who can remember which fascist dictator invented the world relay torch run for propaganda purposes?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:24 pm

Grye--does the name I'm thinking of mean that if I mentioned it, the thread would die?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:25 pm

Speaking of which, if we let him have the Olympics moral turpitude is no bar.

Boycott The Olympics?

Lhasa

Re: Lhasa