Is Eplaya just an insiders club for 5 people?

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:13 pm

Even if Eplaya is predominantly populated by 5 people and there multiple personalities it's still entertaining and helpful to the rest of us who read more than we write. It's also our fault for not participating more in the discussions. Hey 04 will be my first year so on a lot of topics I would be commenting out of ignorance but that doesn't seem to stop many of the old timers and we all have life experiences. There are 3309 registered users how about we here from the rest of all the rest of us a little more.

Oh and a sort of a program from one of the old timers to let the rest of us in on who are the primary personalities and who are there socks so we can know the players would be helpful.

III · Post by **III** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:29 pm

>>sort of a program from one of the old timers to let the rest of us

bah. even the old timers don't know, mostly.

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:50 pm

IMHO I think it's gotten better.

My eyes just rolled around so violently in my head I almost blacked out...

Better for you maybe, but I don't even think to check it most days and when I do It's pretty rare I find a thread that I just gotta chime in on. That is, of course, just *my* humble opinion.

Wind_Borne · Post by **Wind_Borne** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:54 pm

Oh and a sort of a program from one of the old timers to let the rest of us in on who are the primary personalities and who are there socks so we can know the players would be helpful.

Would it matter, really? Would you change your opinions or what you had to say? If your chat partners pass the Turing test, does it really matter whether they are people, socks, monkeys, or AI programs?

Everything is going extremely well. If you're really concerned about this, I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:21 pm

My eyes just rolled around so violently in my head I almost blacked out...

That was really funny. Just to picture that.....

So what's the count now? Positives 3 negatives 1 ?

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:29 pm

I'm not stressed about the socks, on the contrary at there best they seem to represent different aspects of the individuals. Interesting creative people usually aren’t one dimensional so knowing that some of them use different personalities for different aspects of themselves is fine with me. My interest comes from wanting to be able to put these facets together so I can see the whole gem.

Tancorix · Post by **Tancorix** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:31 pm

Would someone queue up a rendition of taps and turn out the lights when your done? If this place keeps going as it is, I don't see any reason to stick around.

Where's our rules? Why do the STOPBM people get to use BMORG funded servers to promote their message? Why doesn't someone in power have the balls / authority / whatever to stop the abuses?

It's so frustrating. You call into an ETF meeting and are the only phone caller. You read people's bitching in other threads but when it comes time to get off their ass and do something to help, they choke. Trey has contributed material behind the scenes, in fact much of the proposed rules were built on his suggestions. But otherwise nobody stood up and tried to do anything. Technopatra was left hanging with no authority to deal with the fuckwits, the STOPBM people got a free ride, and now this place has about as much appeal as living next to a toxic waste dump.

It's going to be interesting to see if it bounces back, but at this point I'd be calling the monument people and have them start carving a tombstone for this place. It's got serious problems and the outlook is not good.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:36 pm

Tancorix,

Kicking back a few beers are we?

Cheers.

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:12 pm

Zulegoona wrote:Even if Eplaya is predominantly populated by 5 people and there multiple personalities it's still entertaining and helpful to the rest of us who read more than we write. It's also our fault for not participating more in the discussions. Hey 04 will be my first year so on a lot of topics I would be commenting out of ignorance but that doesn't seem to stop many of the old timers and we all have life experiences. There are 3309 registered users how about we here from the rest of all the rest of us a little more.

Oh and a sort of a program from one of the old timers to let the rest of us in on who are the primary personalities and who are there socks so we can know the players would be helpful.

Actually, I'm the only real person on the Eplaya besides you.

Everyone else is just a developed, demented figment of my imagination.

And now I'm starting to wonder about you too...

Tancorix · Post by **Tancorix** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:13 pm

Actually, no.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:16 pm

Tancorix wrote:Actually, no.

Hey, was'nt trying to be mean. I'm gonna have one after I write this.

I really dont see the big deal with everyone and this stopBM site thingie.

The thread has already been turned to mayo and I'm not really sure if anyone really read the site thoroughly. The site cannot really do any damage. If anything it makes the case for burningman by making the case that BM does take the best care that it can consistantly.

One case in point (amoungst many), They posted on thier site how Krimson went way out of the way to chart the location by GPS.

sends out thier own inspectors at thier own expense....etc.

Not worth getting bent outta shape over it.

The Mayo thing (though it really was not too nice of a thing to do) is a really funny thread.

Hey, a good thing came out of it all. That's why I love eplaya. Great entertainment.

Now off to drink my beer.

Cheers.

Iago · Post by **Iago** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:48 pm

Sheesh, I gotta quit drinking or get some new eye glasses.. I thought they were saying "Stop by Burning Man" When I stop drinking, I'll get some new glasses... And don't forget to 'Stop by Burning Man' if your in the neighborhood.

(Poster #7)

THE ORIGINAL DIGIMAN · Post by **THE ORIGINAL DIGIMAN** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:14 am

I am the ghost of DIGIMANS past.

I am DE FACTO's sock puppet and am looking for Lilly Flower.

oooOOOOooooo.

(DE FACTO has had a few beers and put me up to this.)

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:19 am

Where's our rules? Why do the STOPBM people get to use BMORG funded servers to promote their message? Why doesn't someone in power have the balls / authority / whatever to stop the abuses?

For starters, SBM.org is not so much abusing the board as taking advantage of the free flow of discussion. You may not like what they have to say but - except for the multiple topics initially generated - I'd not call it abuse per se. Sure, they're a bunch of shit hats that ended up limping away with half of their collective asses dragging behind them but at least what they're putting out there generated more of a response/dialogue/discussion than any of DeFacto's all too predictable quivering lipped smiley's faces which he posts every time someone so much as farts.

But, getting back to the question....

Pulling the posts just because it runs counter to what the majority of us think and believe about our presence on the playa is nothing less than censorship.

Period.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:29 am

Speaking of farts....something for some of the old farts that hang on the eplaya.

http://www.wavhounds.com/fart-trek.html

Ivy · Post by **Ivy** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:39 am

But otherwise nobody stood up and tried to do anything.

You know why?

Because some people are out there in the real world actually doing other things, instead of sitting in front of their computers talking about them. Eplaya is not everyone's #1 priority, nor, IMO, should it be. Sure, it's fun, it's helpful if you've got questions, it's entertaining, but shit, I don't meant to sound rude, but get a life. Find something with more value than the eplaya and put some stock in that, be it BM related or not. Go build an art car, or paint a picture, or join the local curling team, or volunteer with Meals on Wheels.

When I take everything in my life and weigh it, I'm sorry, but the eplaya just don't rank that high.

susie stalker · Post by **susie stalker** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:17 am

[nope, all of the eplaya content is created by 5 socks. I've got photographic evidence and scanned mayo, er... memo's that PROVE it,]

those pesky socks

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:47 pm

seems like these socks main complaint is how much they dislike the eplaya or new eplaya or other socks on eplaya.

Thing I cant figure is why they keep comming back.

Eplaya must be pretty awsome.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:04 am

door, ass, suggest you dodge

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:29 pm

..I don't see any reason to stick around.

Yes, I remember you saying this before.

Where's our rules? Why do the STOPBM people get to use BMORG funded servers to promote their message? Why doesn't someone in power have the balls / authority / whatever to stop the abuses?

Sometimes the best way to expose people for what they are is to allow them a platform to discuss their views.

It's so frustrating. You call into an ETF meeting and are the only phone caller. You read people's bitching in other threads but when it comes time to get off their ass and do something to help, they choke. Trey has contributed material behind the scenes, in fact much of the proposed rules were built on his suggestions. But otherwise nobody stood up and tried to do anything.

I belive, Booker, Precipitate, Ivy, Tiara, Zane, Bob, Nipples, Enthropic, Badger and myself (chai guy) have all "stood up" and offered our opinions/advice/suggestions etc. for the eplaya and a User Guidelines Document.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:50 pm

Chai Guy wrote: I belive, Booker, Precipitate, Ivy, Tiara, Zane, Bob, Nipples, Enthropic, Badger and myself (chai guy) have all "stood up" and offered our opinions/advice/suggestions etc. for the eplaya and a User Guidelines Document.

Hummmmmm....

Well all I can say is It's time for the Plonker. Which BTW none of the above have offered one but I have....in fact I've offered 2 which Spanky has on his agenda.

so as far as I'm concerned, everyone is just blowing air from the posterior.

(hey are the above part of the in club? not trying to piss anyone off.)

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:03 pm

Because some people are out there in the real world actually doing other things, instead of sitting in front of their computers talking about them.

Yeah, some of us REALLY need to get out more.

1 DE FACTO 1273
2 PJ 1019
3 Lydia Love 1010
4 Badger 1009
5 III 971
6 nymphgonebad 771
7 Bob 699
8 precipitate 693
9 Ivy 656
10 blyslv 558
11 TestesInSac 515
12 alice 494
13 Angry Butterfly 480
14 Flux 459
15 Don Muerto 442
16 stuart 441
17 Last Real Burner 440
18 Isotopia 421
19 BlueBirdPoof 414
20 Chai Guy 378

III · Post by **III** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:12 pm

note that more than half of those top 20 no longer post here, and about 1/2 of the rest have severly curtailed their activity.

this is good, i think, since it points to the eplaya no longer being an insider club of a couple of prolific people. (it's now, i think, an insiders club of *one* very prolific person. i'm glad defacto likes it...)

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:18 pm

Because some people are out there in the real world actually doing other things, instead of sitting in front of their computers talking about them.

Wow, that was a lot of work.

I'm impressed.

(did somebody fart?)

Post by **actiongrl** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:44 pm

Man, I'm amazed. Even though I don't post much any more I thought I'd be pretty high up in # of posts.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:14 pm

Sorry Actiongrl with 79 posts you are ranked #79.

- Chai Guy (just 895 more posts until I beat DeFacto)

III · Post by **III** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:40 pm

>>I thought I'd be pretty high up in # of posts

they didn't carry over from the old eplaya...

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:42 pm

(did somebody fart?)

You, sir, are no Don Muerto.

BlueBirdPoof · Post by **BlueBirdPoof** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:45 pm

Lydia Love wrote: You, sir, are no Don Muerto.

This board sadly misses a Don Muerto. I should talk with my shaman about a dance to attract one. . .

Is Eplaya just an insiders club for 5 people?

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