how did you keep knuckleheads off your tall structure?

III · Post by **III** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:51 am

>>none of us are perfect

amen.

and, for all the ranger nose tweaking i do, i'd like to point out that 95% of them are amazing at their jobs, including the high level people. (well, as long as i make sure to count emergency services seperately).

sometimes it's a job to keep those other 5% in line.

MrMullen · Post by **MrMullen** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:58 pm

Well, a plan ol' Deer Rifle should do. A couple of shots and couple of "examples" left on the Playa will do the trick.

PS> Just kidding.

III · Post by **III** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:56 pm

problem is, since they don't allow firearms with the limits of brc, you'd have to have a sniper rifle sittinng outside the perimiter somewhere to do the enforcing. at that range, you may wanna step up to a 50bmg, though then you'll have overpenetration problems...

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:14 pm

you'd have to have a sniper rifle sittinng outside the perimiter somewhere to do the enforcing.

And since your primary concern is nocturnal climbing, you'll probably want to invest in some quality night optics
http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl. ... 5/appg.htm

(PS- windage on the playa can be a real bitch)

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:53 am

Cooky wrote:Blue Bird Proof wrote: The inconvience sounds like a good idea--now think about how you can be as convienient as possible in case of emergency.

Yup, I've thought about that stuff too... we typically set the coaster up next to a "back driveway" that would easily allow REMSA access as needed. Plus, no matter what sort of stuff we place in front of the coaster, several EMT's, a few firefighters and a gurney will get through -- it's not that much of a maze, just enough to deter starry eyed wanderers. I also like to use the snow fencing because emergency crews could easily rip/cut it out of the way if needed, but it's still an obvious deterrent to the casual observer.

Cooky

Way to go.
From BlueBird's new incarnation. (Chirp, weep)

dj_john69 · Post by **dj_john69** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:51 pm

In 2002, we had a scaffolding structure over 70' up...people were always trying to climb up it with random reasons. We had "do not climb" signs as well as a yellow caution tape around the structure. Most people didn't try to climb it but a few did without permission. We ended up having someone from our camp there throughout the event to stop people from climbing....working in shifts.

Last year we did a 25' scaffolding in our lil camp and still had people asking to climb but not as bad as in 2002. Bottom line, people like climbing shit for no reasons....chances are they are high and want to get higher...hehe

How high and safe is your structure ?? DPW gave us a hand getting our structure tied down to their standards...which are very high...for a good reason. I'd recommend talking to the DPW about your project for advice and any help.

~John

MrMullen · Post by **MrMullen** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:54 am

alienfry wrote:we're building something awesome and tall and fun, but we're not always going to be open. we're not an espleanade / everything open 24 hrs type of camp.

i saw lots of large scale stuff out there and lots of simple signs that read: "Do Not Climb"

I wonder, how effective were those signs?

What measures did camps take to assert when something was either closed or off-limits?

Let me ask a follow up question. Do you not want people to climb the structure in question because it is a non-interactive art peice or do you want them not to climb it because it is dangerest. Or both?

If it is dangerest and climbing may lead to serious injury, you should just put up signs saying so and let people get hurt. I know, sounds horrible, but you know, you can't hold the hands of fools all the time.

Lilly Flower · Post by **Lilly Flower** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:17 pm

MrMullen wrote: If it is dangerest and climbing may lead to serious injury, you should just put up signs saying so and let people get hurt. I know, sounds horrible, but you know, you can't hold the hands of fools all the time.

IMHO

best advise I've heard on this topic yet. well next to the feesees thingie.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:18 pm

damn! wrong sock.

RouseMouse · Post by **RouseMouse** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:10 pm

Yes! In the spirit of Burningman a moat of burning fuel oil should slow them down a bit!!

polzicons · Post by **polzicons** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:53 pm

Now Mr Mouse, isn't that a bit extream?! Last year the good folks across and downward in time (but upward on the clock) from us had a typical construction scaffold. I politely asked and was granted permission to climb 32' to top and take pictures (some of them areal views of our own camp I might add,) so no, Fire in the moat is not the answer! Casual survalance is. Can't watch the thing 24/7 but should you have to? Just vasoline the lower rungs... -PoL

McSeed · Post by **McSeed** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:09 pm

DJ-69, were you at about 8:45 and Soulder? --Wait a min, that was years ago now, but about the same place. Just short bof 9:00 camp and out as far as the first non-reserved street? Sheeit! I done know shiet! Lookin at this fine Fema necklace I got from Alien Love NeSt I am there! Peace, -McFly

Tiara · Post by **Tiara** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:26 pm

No one should be hurt because of the lack of judgement of one (or in your case 2) idiots.

In fact, most people are hurt because of a lack of judgement on the part of a single individual. . . generally a lack of judgement shown by the person who becomes injured.

how did you keep knuckleheads off your tall structure?

Sniper!

Re: how did you keep knuckleheads off your tall structure?

Re: how did you keep knuckleheads off your tall structure?

Deterrence ?