Legality of a "Soapy Massage" theme camp with dona

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:38 am

Token wrote:This has to be FKO's (Old time tribe fucko) Eplaya alter ego pulling a fucking prank.

I think I'll call Transgirl "Interplanet Janet" from now on.

http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/template/ ... st=1323891

Did ANYONE bother to read this??

Rats in the maze... sheesh

Badger

Nick Collide · Post by **Nick Collide** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:45 am

No! We're havin' too much fun to be distracted by facts...

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:42 pm

Here ya go, and with it.......

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:45 pm

haha. Captain, don't get your sails in a twist. ha. You're terribly worked up!!*pout*

Ok now.. if you read veryyy carefully, the beginning of my first post says this little fantasy camp of mine is something I'd like to consider doing "If I'm ever SINGLE again"...

So no, I don't and won't cheat. And yes, if I found my partner was cheating or cheated on me on the playa or anywhere else, I'd take it to "Text message breakup" level. (For anyone who likes that ole Liam Sullivan, you know what I mean... I'd take it there...)
I misspoke with the "I'd kill em!!" stuff. Good lord I'd never do that. I'd just walk away.
It's only human to have fantasies however... I couldn't get mad at a man for that!

I do think swingers are weird... I guess 'cause I'm prone to demand fidelity, ... Although I'm not sure any swingers would think T's are weird. They seem to be pretty accepting. But would they all fuck me???
.. I think polygamists are weird too...
I think any number of things people do are weird. So what?
I mean, more power to em but I don't want to fuck em.

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:56 pm

Cryptofishist, I know what you're trying to say....

But I still say swinging is weird!!!

Like I said in the last post, "more power to them", but it's still weird to me!

Plenty of people think I'm weird. Hell, I think I'm weird. Oh well!

Food eating contests are weird...pea green is weird...oh yes, and clothing made from rope that exposes genitalia is weird..

Some weirdness I do, some weirdness I don't.

I'd say the problem with my comment in tht post is not that I think swinging is weird, but that I expressed an opinion that may hurt people's feelings...which is not something I aim to do, albeit occasionally unavoidable.

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:06 pm

About not being upfront: well I hate my username, am always too lazy to start a new account, and honestly am sick of the TG issue infecting and influencing the responses to me and all of my ideas and thoughts and posts and motivations behind them...

But it is inescapable, I know. So I will deal with it.

I wasn't planning on tricking anyone in person if I ever got the chance to go through with the whole thing.

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:14 pm

Nick Collide, you make an interesting point about conflicting moral viewpoints. Very true, my fantasies totally conflict with what I consider appropriate behavior.

People are interesting, and really screwed up. Fantasies conflict with morals, behaviors conflict with morals, morals conflict with logic, emotions and projections conflict with behaviors, etc etc etc..

I try to just not fuck people over w/ all my personal conflicts.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:53 pm

Dick Collide wrote:What is there to defend? The fact that people have conflicting moral viewpoints - particularly when they are discussing their fantasies - is neither new nor unusual. I would say a fair majority of men who might consider trying a little "sport fucking" would also turn right around and say they would "kill their old lady" if she did the same thing.

So what we are left with is the possibility that you are so thouroughly pissed about something as insignificant as this is that, for moral reasons, you are being left out of the loop.

I feel your pain, dude...

I'm not and never was "thoroughly pissed", I just called bullshit where it was laying, and there was PLENTY of it. Over-analyze all you like, but there's nothing more to it.

Here's me cracking up at you psycho-babble types who don't really understand anything!

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:44 am

Just be careful not to drop that soap !

Lukky · Post by **Lukky** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:03 pm

What happened to bros before hoes?

Nick Collide · Post by **Nick Collide** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:24 pm

transgirl: Good for you! You really seem to have your head screwed on straight - especially for someone who is only a prank.

Captain G: I know all about calling someone on their "bullshit." In the therapeutic community where I work it happens continuously. But there is a big difference between letting someone know, in a positive and encouraging way, that their current behavior is inappropriate (hard) and simply attacking them because they aren't doing what you think they should be doing (easy). You can usually tell the difference by the level of personalizing being thrown out there - aggressive stance, name-calling, etc. In short, bullying the other person.

Now, I don't know you - you might be the greatest guy on the playa (a title I thought I had locked up - but I could be wrong) - but I have this thing about bullying, and it seemed to me that your comments to transgirl were inordinately aggressive and hostile. So I called you on your "bullshit". Perhaps you felt attacked because I (poorly, apparently) chose to tweak you on the fact you had used the term WTF in every single post in the thread to that point. That was certainly not my intent. In any event, I extend the same invitation to you to stop by the Booby Bar and allow me to meet you in person.

ps. While I don't mind in the least, my friend OneEyed might be a little tweaked by the possible confusion your name for me may cause in our camp - you know, "There's only room for one Dick in these Boobs" and all that. "Prick" comes to mind, but I'm really not much of a poet so I will leave that to you to work out.

pss. I'm afraid our time is up. Please pay the receptionist on the way out. At this point I don't think another session is necessary. Have a great day!

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:51 pm

Tonight I am going to masturbate like a zoo monkey until I pass out.

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:09 am

Film at 11.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:50 am

Nick Collide wrote:Psychobabble blah blah.

I did write "WTF" in all my original posts, because... WTF? There was absolutely something not aligning properly with what TG originally posted! And I was right! I never had a problem with her or her plan until she became a hypocrite about it, putting down attached men for participating with her when she is also attached. That's a legitimate bullshit call. OK, so you think I'm a schoolyard bully and I think you're a hall monitor bitch. There we are.

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:30 am

SunTzu:
On ground of intersecting highways,
I would consolidate my alliances.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:48 am

Lukky wrote:What happened to bros before hoes?

Obama did win the primary....

Xavier · Post by **Xavier** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:46 pm

If the Human Carcass Wash is legal, I wouldn't sweat it.

Also, in 2002 there was an enterprising group of swingers who got their feelers out very early - by midweek there were discretely posted, laminated sign at several camps advertising they were swinger friendly/open/LGBTwhateva!

Just put in some effort, put up a sign - hell, you can even advertise in the guide, like the Human Carcass Wash.

As for donations - just put out an open box/chest in front of your camp with a give/take sign - put some condoms and lube in there and POOF! It'll fill up by the end of the week.

Nick Collide · Post by **Nick Collide** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:20 pm

Really, Captain, "hall monitor" is such a harsh phrase.

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:22 pm

Again, I am not being a hypocrite about not wanting to participate with attached men because the beginning of my 1st post I wrote "IF I AM EVER SINGLE AGAIN...."

Does anyone see me trying to explain this over and over to Captain Goddamnit?

I mean, Goddamnit, it's like talking to a brick wall!

Lukky · Post by **Lukky** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:36 pm

transgirl wrote:I mean, Goddamnit, it's like talking to a brick wall!

I don't think it's about you anymore.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:18 pm

I did read the "If I'm ever single" line in the first post. I don't believe it because of the existence of this whole thread and especially after the later post "haha. No I'm not a tranny. My name is a really lame, outdated, poorly-thought-out, quick pick and I've been wanting to change it FOREVER!!!" That busted credibility.
Being what you are is fine, I'm no homophobe, but it sucks when a man who's been taking female hormones deceives other straight men into sexual activity of any sort. I think anyone who does that fits the description "fuckwad".
"Talking to a brick wall" is a metaphor for when you're trying to get through to someone who won't listen. I listen quite carefully, which is how I knew something was up in the first place, and I stand by what I said and back it up with facts. However, I'll admit I didn't look up the proper definition of "fuckwad", so perhaps I misused the term.

Rat Bastard · Post by **Rat Bastard** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:36 pm

Is "fuckwad" similar to a "darkwad"?

Either way, they both deserve to be ran over!

So can chicks with dicks be in both critical tits and critical dicks? How does one choose?

At least this thread cures my boredom. All the good threads are slow lately. This one is lame but at least it's active.

betrdanevr · Post by **betrdanevr** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:18 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:I did read the "If I'm ever single" line in the first post. I don't believe it because of the existence of this whole thread and especially after the later post "haha. No I'm not a tranny. My name is a really lame, outdated, poorly-thought-out, quick pick and I've been wanting to change it FOREVER!!!" That busted credibility.
Being what you are is fine, I'm no homophobe, but it sucks when a man who's been taking female hormones deceives other straight men into sexual activity of any sort. I think anyone who does that fits the description "fuckwad".
"Talking to a brick wall" is a metaphor for when you're trying to get through to someone who won't listen. I listen quite carefully, which is how I knew something was up in the first place, and I stand by what I said and back it up with facts. However, I'll admit I didn't look up the proper definition of "fuckwad", so perhaps I misused the term.

I just found this thread, but all I can say is "good call," Captain!

And for purposes of stirring the pot, methinks there may be another person participating in this nice little "experiment" who is protesting too much!

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:09 am

Personally, I was wanting to hear more about the "Happy Endings"
Good Playa-porn is hard to come by lately.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:21 am

transgirl wrote:haha. Captain, don't get your sails in a twist.

Why? Does that cost extra?

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:04 pm

Rat Bastard wrote:Is "fuckwad" similar to a "darkwad"?

Either way, they both deserve to be ran over!

So can chicks with dicks be in both critical tits and critical dicks? How does one choose?

At least this thread cures my boredom. All the good threads are slow lately. This one is lame but at least it's active.

Amen to that. All the other good threads are dead. I think everyone is too busy getting ready.

Badger

Funky Monkey Mech · Post by **Funky Monkey Mech** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:17 pm

*** crickets crickets crickets***** wow yeah all the threads but this one seem to be mega dead lately.... i know my camp is still going but most the fun threads are dead silent! i think badger is right everybody is getting ready...

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:26 pm

*LONG sigh*

Well my user name is still lame, poorly-thought-out, outdated, etc...

I wish I had never picked it, because I knew the Trans issue would hyjack my threads.

I wasn't planning on deceiving anyone on the playa. That's ridiculous. But I wanted to hear people's opinions on the LEGALITY of a gray area where massages are given and donations are accepted.

Naturally, since I "admitted" my gender identity, the T issue has hyjacked my thread, my question, and distracted everyone from being able to give any insight relevant to the original purpose.

Not that I really need anymore responses about it, since I got several very good ones before the shock and awe part of the evening.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:42 pm

Personally I feel itâ€™s cool if people want to give you things, as long as itâ€™s ok when they donâ€™t. To me trade and barter are counter to the spirit of the gift economy. In a few cases with large centrally located attractions that could be over run like Thunder-dome barter is part of the Barter Town shtick I do consider it acceptable but for the most part itâ€™s just bad form.

transgirl · Post by **transgirl** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:45 pm

EvilDustBooger wrote:Personally, I was wanting to hear more about the "Happy Endings"
Good Playa-porn is hard to come by lately.

hehe. Mmm. Well naturally, after we have a couple cocktails and chatting, I would wash him thoroughly from head to toe with yummy scented suds, talking, if he likes, about whatever makes him relax and feel comfortable with me. I would make sure I massage his feet/back/neck/hands/head as I wash him and make him feel like he has a personal servant.
Then I would climb on top of him and use my body to caress and massage him all over, like a human slip n slide... teasing him all over, maybe little bit of head as I move back up and nibble on his chest and neck, flicking his ear with my tongue, and work the nipples for the ones who like it.
Maybe then dry him off, have perhaps, another drink, then move to an inflatable mattress where I oil him down, again teasing him and more head till he's so worked up that it's either over or he wants to f*** me. As soon as he shoots his load I would stand up and immediately dress and ask for my tip, which goes in the bucket.
If it's not hot, it'd just end with the soapy part unless we can barter some intermittent tipping to up the payoff.