Politics - Who Should Be In Charge? Who Realy Is?

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Do you truly feel empowered in your immediate society?

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Yes
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No
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No
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Usualy more than 75% of the time.
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Usualy more than 75% of the time.
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Between 50% and 25% of the time.
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Between 50% and 25% of the time.
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2%
Between 50% and 25% of the time.
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3%
Between 50% and 25% of the time.
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3%
Less than 25% of the time.
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7%
Less than 25% of the time.
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7%
Varies greatly on my given situation and items I have.
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8%
Varies greatly on my given situation and items I have.
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8%
I am in Jail or House Arrest, so it really depends on what you mean.
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I am in Jail or House Arrest, so it really depends on what you mean.
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Politics - Who Should Be In Charge? Who Realy Is?

Post by EricMagic » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:35 pm

Basic questions on who is in charge (i.e. Leading Direction) of key areas follows,

A. Who do you think should be in charge of your country?
  • 1. Should it be evenly three split between Executive, Legislative, and Judicial?
    2. Or should power or Leading Directions be shared with Banks, The Federal Reserve, or the IRS, or Lobbyists, or Corporations?
    3. Or, should all people from all levels of society really be in charge as in a true democracy?
B. Who do you think should be the next USA President? ... next Vice President?

C. Who do you think should be in charge of your immediate county or town?

D. Who do you think should be in charge of Burning Man?

E. Who should be in charge of your immediate life and possessions?

Now, for all of the above, WHO IS REALLY IN CHARGE?

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Re: Politics - Who Should Be In Charge? Who Realy Is?

Post by Donna Matrix » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:59 pm

EricMagic wrote:Basic questions on who is in charge (i.e. Leading Direction) of key areas follows,

A. Who do you think should be in charge of your country?
  • 1. Should it be evenly three split between Executive, Legislative, and Judicial?
    2. Or should power or Leading Directions be shared with Banks, The Federal Reserve, or the IRS, or Lobbyists, or Corporations?
    3. Or, should all people from all levels of society really be in charge as in a true democracy?
B. Who do you think should be the next USA President? ... next Vice President?

C. Who do you think should be in charge of your immediate county or town?

D. Who do you think should be in charge of Burning Man?

E. Who should be in charge of your immediate life and possessions?

Now, for all of the above, WHO IS REALLY IN CHARGE?
I know I'm not in charge. My batteries are not even plugged in.
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:31 am

We should split up into small tribes of less than 100 individuals apiece.

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Post by Donna Matrix » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:01 am

My country?

This is my land... but my country? I don't recognize it as such anymore. The people (if we can call them that) running the show are crazy, evil or worse.

I suppose the bottom line is: The Constitution should be in charge. Tom (my husband) says that there should be a constitutional robot - that zaps unconstitutional actions, laws, etc. Um... maybe after three warnings?

yes, the Constitution should be in charge of my country.
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Post by transgirl » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:12 pm

People should be in charge of our own lives. Absolutely no legislation on consensual behavior. Most people in jail aren't even criminals. They were made into criminals by a government that over-legislates.

We aren't free. Not even close. We may be the most UN-free country in the world, considering we are one of the most legislated.

Corporations own us. Governments own us. Insurance companies own us. Everyone but ourselves own us.

Taxation is theft and slavery. Through taxation and legislation, we all (in the US) live in modern slavery.

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Post by Donna Matrix » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:46 pm

Transgirl.. you are soooooooooooooooooo right.

But I do beleive things are going to get worse before they get better.

Yikes! it's going to be a wild ride.
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Post by World Power Foundation » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:46 am

The natural world is a world of war; the natural man is a warrior; the natural law is tooth and claw. All else is error. A condition of combat everywhere exists. We are born into perpetual conflict. It is our inheritance even as it was the inheritance of previous generations. The 'condition of combat' may be disguised with the holy phrases of St. Francis, or the soft, deceitful doctrines of a Kropotkin or a Tolstoy, but it cannot eventually be evaded by any human being...lt rules all things...and it decides all who imagine policemanized populations, internationally regulated tranquility, and State organized industrialism so joyful, blessed and divine.

But in this war of each against all there are only a small number of victors. They alone conquer power and enjoy the loot. This is because "The great mass of men who inhabit the world of today have no initiative, no originality or independence of thought, but are mere subjective individualities, who never had the slightest voice in fashioning the ideas that they formally revere." The "average man...is a born thrall habituated from childhood to be governed by others." The majority of the common people can never become free, they are but the sediment from which all the more valuable elements have long been distilled...Mastership is right, mastership is natural, mastership is eternal. But only for those who cannot overthrow it, and trample it beneath their hoofs.
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Post by Donna Matrix » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:18 pm

Who should be in charge?... I suppose those that are in charge... like we can change it anyhow... and if we can we should.

The only way to get power is to seize it... one can not wield power until one has it. um.............
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:23 pm

Someone got injected with his monthly shot of Social Darwinism today.
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:40 am

That's too hairy-chested even for me.

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Post by Silverwheel » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:27 pm

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Post by oneeyeddick » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:55 pm

I have a tendacy to bitchslap those who do not think I am in control.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:03 am

anyone of a certain age or older knows damn well that Al Haig is in charge now.
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Post by Donna Matrix » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:49 pm

Fuck the Federal government and their evil ways......

They are not who I elected. They are not who I elected. They are not who I elected. They are not who I elected.

I say try them all on Treason. Then we put use those FEMA camps to good use.
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Post by Barbie » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:17 pm

That would be a good use for the FEMA camps... we could put the people in those camps in their (the fed gov. officials) homes.




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Post by Donna Matrix » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:08 pm

I've been telling people that if Ron Paul is who he says he is and he gets elected - then ipso facto.... there will be trials for treason....

I'm I right or am I right????

I say fry the bastards....
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Post by mdmf007 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:23 pm

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Empowerment Clarification

Post by EricMagic » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:21 pm

© April 2008 by EricMagic - All Rights Reserved

Going beyond, "In Charge" and then going further into the idea or definition or assumptions of "Empowerment", I would to note the following:
  • Being in charge does not necessarily mean in charge of others, but at least it is assumed to mean in charge of something or at least the feeling of such.

    How many levels of existence can one be "in charge" of, or can one "be empowered"? How many levels of abstraction for a certain time, can one "be empowered" may depend on how aware one truly is.

    Empowerment can generally mean doing what one desires or at one's discretion. Then perhaps, very large Empowerment is doing what you wish despite the consequences. Then, to get an even larger feeling of Empowerment may doing what you wish for a good cause or good principle despite the consequences including torture and death.

    Empowerment is an interesting word and concept. It could be made into a great wonder or exhilaration depending on your set of values or your culture.
For a starter list that is incomplete for quasi-mathematical forms, maybe:
  • Empowerment = Acknowledgement and Feeling of Freedom
    Great Empowerment = Ability and Means to Make Accomplishments
    Awareness Empowerment = Knowing Potential and Limits of One's Ability and Means
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Post by ygmir » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:10 pm

most have trouble running thier own lives, how can I trust them to run mine?........in fact, if they'd concentrate on running thier own lives, they'd not have time to, and, stay out of, mine.........
The time, IMHO, has come to prepare, to withdraw from the fray, with it's nested loops, and, become mobile, adaptive, invisible to radar, so as to rise phoenix-like after the melt-down.
Argueing about who should lead is somwhat rhetorical. We have no say anyway.........we get to vote so we feel we participated, and, we don't really know how anyone else voted anyway.............and, we all think we are in the majority, that "everyone" agrees with us, and, that, if "our person" doesn't win, we got cheated.
WE get cheated every time. It's all orchestrated to make us think we matter to "them".........
the keep us fighting amongst ourselves so we don't pay attention to what "they" are doing..........distracted my minutia, that, in the long run, we can do nothing about..........
But, we get cable tv, two cars, and McDonalds, so, what does it really matter who's drilling for what, where, and, who's dieing for what, where, and, who's killing what, and where?

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Post by ygmir » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:12 pm

oh yeah, and,
get back on a precious metal monetary standard............wink DM.............
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Post by ZaphodBurner » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:56 am

transgirl wrote:People should be in charge of our own lives. Absolutely no legislation on consensual behavior. Most people in jail aren't even criminals.
Corporations own us. Governments own us. Insurance companies own us. Everyone but ourselves own us.

Taxation is theft and slavery. Through taxation and legislation, we all (in the US) live in modern slavery.
I agree with the absolutely no legistlation on [mutually] consensual behavior, mostly. I don't believe corporations, governments or insurance companies own us. I don't have to drive, invest, buy corporate products or vote. In all societies since before the tribes came down to America from the north (south), populations on this continent have been governed by a chief, tribal elder or somebody else who rules. At least here we as a population get to decide who rules.

Taxation is only slavery if it doesn't give you roads, environmental standards, social services and police, medevac and fire protection. Plus, frankly, I'm perfectly happy with the idea that there are aircraft carrier battle fleets and nuclear submarines floating out there, or GIs and capable of annihilating anybody who might otherwise attempt to conquer or seize control of my way of life. I was raised by a concentration camp witness. "Thank God For the Bomb" - Ozzy.

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Post by willyloafofphora » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:57 am

mdmf007 wrote:The Masons, and illuminati
Yeah but their in a constant power struggle with the JAMs and the ELF and maybe even the KLF.
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Post by Isotopia » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:55 am

Who Should Be In Charge? Well, let's have a look.

The response from the Republican nominee regarding the latest Wall Street meltdown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRg8kaKfLXs

The response from the Democratic nominee regarding the latest Wall Street meltdown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONM7148cTyc

Which one actually said something of substance? Which one goes off on a typical political diatribe casting blame? Which one mentions specifics rather than generalities? Which one gets to the point of the ISSUE rather than character assassination and smearing? Which one.....

SHOULD be in charge?

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:28 am

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