We Need To Get Rid Of The Tents

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:25 pm

Come on people, we aren't living in the Dark Ages. Burning Man looks like a homeless shelter with all the tents littering up the landscape. Tom Petty said it: You don't have to live like a refugee!
Burning Man should be RV-only, with tents reserved for daytime community areas only. Tents are unsanitary. In an RV your waste water is entirely contained, as well as all your loose items that tend to blow away in windstorms... not to mention whole tents that blow away every year!
Tent camps moop all over the place. In an RV you just shut the door and drive away, leaving no trace but a few tire tracks.
Tents require big stakes pounded into the ground, which disrupts the delicate playa surface. They are also hot and uncomfortable. Tent camping is not only rag-bag ugly looking, but will destroy the event.
Be Green, self-contain yourself! Stop trashing the landscape with rag huts that look like the poor section of an undeveloped third-world nation.

yizzah · Post by **yizzah** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:56 pm

I can't tell if you're joking. Did you really say, Be Green - Drive an RV? If you want to "Green" Burning Man, outlaw RV's, make people be smart about what they pack. Make people work a little bit to experience Burning Man. RV's make it too easy. Get rid of the RV's full of Frat Boys and Girls that come roaring in on Friday kicking up massive clouds of dust and all the Budweiser cans that come with them. From what I see, RV participants are as much to blame as anyone. Because they can haul more gear, I see RV people setting up WAY more stuff than tent people. Tentgoers typically have WAY less stuff. Our party had tents that were properly staked and nothing blew away. We used our cars for storage.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:10 pm

FratBoys can't afford RV's; and all the veteran burners have them rented 6 - 8 months in advance, so there are none to be had. The FratBoys just flop out wherever they crash and burn, usually in someone elses tent, a porta-squat, or right in front of the speaker of a 200dB sound camp when the sound goes off.

Tents have no insulation, so they are good for neighbors listening to people grunting, groaning and moaning inside at about daylight..sometimes audible at 100 yards.........................

justfred · Post by **justfred** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:12 pm

I don't think anyone should be allowed to bring anything - they should all have to walk naked from Gerlach, no, from Reno, carrying nothing - yes, they'll have to bring their drugs in body cavities, but that shouldn't disrupt the experience much.

In fact, people shouldn't go at all. They should all stay home with the air conditioning on high, shackled to the La-Z-Boy, plugged into a wall-sized array of television and internet, with food from an IV and emptied into a catheter.

Then again, I've always said we should pave the playa, 25 square miles of pure flat concrete, covered by the world's largest Buckey-dome. Climate controlled to 77 degrees year round.

All in all, I think I'll just stick with my tent.

hsdavis · Post by **hsdavis** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:45 pm

RV's make the most sense. When flying into Reno, a young 21 year old girl was sitting next to me on the plane. She was carrying a pillow and told me she was heading to BM for the first time. I asked where she was camping and she said she reserved an RV in Reno. $4500 for the week. I asked how many were splitting the cost and she said it was just her. Her mom knew and gave her the credit card to do it. She was going to buy a motorized scooter in Reno and I told her she could only use a bike there. I'm not sure what she did for transportation.
I think that every paticipant should have their own RV and be responsible for taking care of the pumping etc.
There is so much land on the playa, that this idea could actually work. We could all take a lesson from this 21 year old girl and borrow your mother's credit card when heading to Burning Man. Things would go so much smoother if we all did.

MozyBonz · Post by **MozyBonz** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:11 pm

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:27 pm

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:45 pm

RVs are the only way to save Burning Man.
Buying a used, pre-existing American-made RV is way greener than buying a new, Chinese-made tent.
Have a conscience, be environmentally friendly. Get a nice RV and stop polluting our playa with sticks and rags.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:05 pm

MozyBonz wrote:

Mozy, where'd ya find my old motor cabin? Last I saw of it was in Eugene Oregon, parked in a field next to Ken Kesey's bus. Looks like somebody added a front porch roof and the wheelchair sign. Glad to see the old neighborhood is being upgraded.

Post by **AntiM** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:11 pm

That's the spirit! Handcraft your very own RV!

Mr.? · Post by **Mr.?** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:50 pm

I just purchased my RV for next year..

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Tents SUCK and are for poor people. Poor people should stay home and work since they are poor and since they SUCK!

Karma · Post by **Karma** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:19 am

Captain GD has it exactly right !!

If the population grows, it's the RV's fault.
If there's pollution, it's the RV's fault.
If there's dust in the air, it's the RV's fault.
If a view is blocked, it's the RV's fault.
If there's ambient noise, it's the RV's fault.
If someones groove aint happenin, it's the RV's fault !

If it's good enough for Larry, it's good enough for me.

VIVA LA RV !!!!!
^_^

Oh and Yizzah, it's called Sarcasm... Welcome to the board. ^_-

Mosin · Post by **Mosin** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:11 am

There's nothing greener than a '76 Winnebago. Ever seen the stock pile carpet? Moreover, no slave labor was utilized in the process of creating this monument to humankind's love of the environment...top dollar UAW hours only baybeh!!. Thus, former tent campers from the Dark Ages (pre RV-only BM...up to '08 ) can salvage what remains of their kharma, self respect, and standing in the BRC community by picking up a used Bounder, Allegro, or Itasca forthwith. And yes, I approve your use of Momz' credit card, so no worries re. funding. Thanks to the Capn' for this critical directive. I think we just might save Burning Man after all!

Joshatdot · Post by **Joshatdot** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:47 am

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:49 am

Karma · Post by **Karma** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:24 am

I say we set up a tent free zone. Move all the tents to the perimeter fence, that's where they all wind up after the dust storms anyway.
I'm seriously getting burned out on plucking some dudes pup tent from between my axles after the storm cause "another" tent got blown loose.

They're a safety hazard, or am I the only one here to watch in amazement as a Costco car port goes rolling end over end down the street ?

VIVA LA RV !!

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:27 am

we must be careful though, if we arrange the multiple RV's in a particular pattern, God may mistake us for a trailer park, and you KNOW what happens to trailer parks....

Tornadoes are really just the way God redecorates.

he hates trailer parks.

ViVa La RV!!!

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:14 am

LawdyLawdy, Gawd all Mighty, if all the Rv's were pointed to DaMan, it would focus the co(s)mic energy on DaMan and cause it to cumbusticate...

Possibly making a spatial wormhole in the universe sucking all the moop and fratboys into the Farside....never to return until the starship Enterprise has to tractorbeam it's way out of the same wormhole in lightyear 20000199846923.6349 and all the moop and fratboys end up in the basement of the twin towers on 9/11

Intubater69 · Post by **Intubater69** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:42 am

Captain GD! You are so right! And while were at it we should also ban stinkpotters at the burn as well. Nuthin pollutes the environment quicker than a smelly powerboat, roaring by ruining things for us environmentally conscious sailboaters. In fact, lets go one step further and ban class A - C motorhomes and the tow vehicles for the others since they are also in their own right, stinkpots. Ya wanna bring that pop-up? well, stick a mast on it and sail it right onto the playa. The wind is abundant and non-polluting,
and better yet, we espouse the new, 11th pricipal of Burning Man, leave no wake

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:30 am

Come on, Intubater69, don't be ridiculous.

MozyBonz · Post by **MozyBonz** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:39 am

motskyroonmatick · Post by **motskyroonmatick** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:48 am

MozyBonz wrote:

That's about as radically self reliant as one could get. Your own house, boat and land transportation. Never rely on anyone else again. When the Black Rock floods again and it will!....Tents don't float!

ViVa La RV!!!

willyloafofphora · Post by **willyloafofphora** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:24 pm

Screw RVs Philip Waymore's prefab playa condos are the way of the future.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:37 pm

what do you call a hippy caught in a dust storm who pleads frantically to come into your 40' SuperDuperLiner?

an RV WALLBANGER!.....

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:09 pm

And you know what else? Tents are flammable! Tents have no place at burningman--too dangerous!

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:51 pm

EspressoDude wrote:
MozyBonz wrote:
Mozy, where'd ya find my old motor cabin? Last I saw of it was in Eugene Oregon, parked in a field next to Ken Kesey's bus. Looks like somebody added a front porch roof and the wheelchair sign. Glad to see the old neighborhood is being upgraded.

You guys got me howling out loud here.

ED, maybe your old homestead could mate with Kesey's bus and make a bunch of little technicolored outhouses!!!

HAAA HAA HAAA!!!

Don't drink the orange juice in that cabin's icebox, man.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:46 pm

LeChatNoir wrote:
EspressoDude wrote:
MozyBonz wrote:
Mozy, where'd ya find my old motor cabin? Last I saw of it was in Eugene Oregon, parked in a field next to Ken Kesey's bus. Looks like somebody added a front porch roof and the wheelchair sign. Glad to see the old neighborhood is being upgraded.
You guys got me howling out loud here.

ED, maybe your old homestead could mate with Kesey's bus and make a bunch of little technicolored outhouses!!!

HAAA HAA HAAA!!!

Don't drink the orange juice in that cabin's icebox, man.

Iâ€™d thought the mating would be impossible because late I heard Further ( Keseyâ€™s bus ) was at the Smithsonian preserved for all times and wouldnâ€™t be granted congeal visits. But it appears I was wrong according to the ad for this video.

FURTHER ON!
TRUE FACTS ABOUT THE SMITHSONIAN CAPER
In the late 1980's Ken Kesey called his editor about his upcoming book "The Further Inquiry." He wanted film of Neal Cassady to be added to the book in the form of flip pictures (they move as you flip through the pages of the book). His editor said that was impossibly expensive but jokingly said that he would do it if Ken brought Further (the 1939 school bus decaying in his field) to the American Booksellers Association Convention in Las Vegas. Ken simply answered "OK, he will bring Further....He had spotted another bus for sale the day before and had been itching to have a new bus lately, as it had been 30 years since the last one died. He bought the bus, fixed it up and began painting it in wild colors. The local news happened to come to the farm and filmed some of the progress of this new project. That night the news reported that "Ken Kesey has restored the original 1937 bus and is taking it to the Smithsonian Institution Museum". Even the Merry Prankster himself could not have dreamed up such a perfect prank, soon network television crews, newspaper and magazine reporters were showing up asking if they could come along for the ride...Ken said "SURE...get on the bus" This video chronicles a new chapter in the legacy of Kesey, the Merry Pranksters the psychedelic bus, FURTHER. Staring Ken and the Pranksters with special guests Timothy Leary, Robert Hunter, Hunter S. Thompson, Bill Walton, The Grateful Dead, John Barlow, and a cast of thousands...all caught in the web of the greatest prank ever.
About 2 hours

Mr.? · Post by **Mr.?** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:36 am

My camp mates and I just got our 2009 trial run all worked out. Hope to see you there!

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BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:18 am

thats pretty cool actually. Alabama Art Project for teh win!

Intubater69 · Post by **Intubater69** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:36 am

theCryptofishist wrote:And you know what else? Tents are flammable! Tents have no place at burningman--too dangerous!

From the 2007 Afterburn:

The Fire Branch responded to 40 fire-related calls for service, seven of which were significant fire responses. These significant calls are broken down as follows: two building fires, two trailer fires, one plane fire, one car fire and the "early burn" fire. One of the trailer fires and the "early man" burn are both considered arson cases, and are being investigated by the Pershing County Sheriff's Office. The two building fires were electrical fires that were quickly isolated, and both of the trailer fires were fully involved fires resulting in the destruction of property.

Crypto, tents would just go "Poof!" Everybody would just look around and go, WTF was that?! Now a trailer fire, those would be a good burn, especially one of those Class A Behemoths. Can you say, snap, crackle, pop!

Captain, Ridiculous?! This is an election year, what part of it isnt ridiculous already

Besides, everybody knows us blowboaters are way cooler then stinkpotters. And, we have the capability to keel-haul people on a much grander scale

We Need To Get Rid Of The Tents

We Need To Get Rid Of The Tents

I agree, but we need to go futher