hi i am blue angel

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:30 am

Blue, Your x-boy. ( I'm assuming you dumped him already,, it HAS been a couple days )

ok,, your boy. partied, fucked, drank, danced, explored, drugged, and looked at as many boobies as he's EVER seen, his ass off. He's a loser and a liar. Tellin you he's going with a lesbian.. that's the worst cover story EVER!
You should find a friend a go though. Shit,, Take a lesbian !! You'll have a good time & you'll have someone to do all the heavy lifting.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:18 am

thisisthatwhichis wrote:hehehe.... no coke, but I have beer!!!.....

mmmm, Beer

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:23 am

ok ok he admits that the lesbian story isnt true................

no i didn't dump yet...i am open minded...i don't like to assume...just weighin it all out right now................

he does say that nothing happened, all platonic, though she ran around with a dental floss sized outfit :roll:

i dunno.......is it possible to go there with a member of the opposite sex and not feel like you want laid???

like i said, I have never been there, i am totally clueless 'cept for what you guys have turned me on to. (thks)

said it was a personal journey and she was there to save $$$. they don't talk now, its like they don't like each other???

yea.....there was dust btw....................definitely at the playa!

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:32 am

Well Blue, the heat and dust can def. put a damper on getting frisky, but at night when it starts to get a bit nipply, having something warm to spoon with def takes an edge off the chill, if you can get past the smell

If he bothered to get his ass out and about he would have seen that there is way more to see and do then worry about getting laid. Sure, getting laid is always a good thing, but if all he or anybody else is looking for, they may find themselves to be sorry disappointed.

It's a radical environment, be prepared for that. But it is also WAYYYYY more than you could imagine, see on the net, read about etc. Take that from someone who burst his BM cherry this year. It will change you, give you a new purpose in life, and increase your appetite, not for sex, but for bacon

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:23 am

thanks for the comment sail man.................

and all you guys...

At this point, I am not really giving a rats a$$ about him but i am worrying about myself. the story is changing faster a politicians promises............

i also found out that this person may have gulf war syndrome..wtf??? is this a real thing or not??? I feel like i am in a default world nightmare right now....don't know what to believe.

is this contagious if you are in a together? I am reading it is some bacteria that you can get thru sex, sweat, and just being in close proximity if someone coughs or sneezes....

since he says there was no sex, he could still have something. man, this is crazy :!:

Post by **Sham** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:32 pm

How long have you know this guy? It sounds like he wants his cake and eat it too. It may be time to get some distance between you both and date only occasionally. As far as Burning Man, it will do you a world of good to go and see what it's all about. You will come back a new person with a new perspective of the world.
Also, stop thinking about the situation with you and your boyfriend or it will make you crazy. Instead, start making lists of things you want to bring with you to the playa. Remember, it's just 10 months away.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:03 pm

Oh crap. Ten months? I gotta wait ten months before I can go home? Crap.

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:53 pm

if ever a time a need a new perspective it would absolutely be now!

bigbluedoggy · Post by **bigbluedoggy** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:06 pm

My two cents... lots of folks are saying that going to Burning Man is going to open your eyes, give you a whole new perspective, be the best thing you ever did for yourself, etc. While this is certainly one scenario, there are countless others and they all don't end positively. You had best study all you can find on Burning Man to get a broad view of what you may find there. If you see more pros than cons, you can consider the idea of attending. If you have the slightest doubt about whether or not its the right thing for you to do, give it some very serious consideration. Burning Man is definitely not for everyone and it's not something that should be "sold" to anyone. If you don't find yourself drawn to the experience, then it could very well be a large mistake to attend. Be very sure, and be very prepared.

bigbluedoggy · Post by **bigbluedoggy** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:09 pm

oh yes... and bacon... bring lots of bacon...

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:13 pm

hey big blue
thanks for the cons...............

i know from what i have read that it can be rough my b/f (who i may be leaving in the dust very soon..) said it was rough in the heat and that he would not go back unless he had an rv. said that it was hard to get around by bike cause the ground was soft.
said it sucked because you couldn't shower. he said the pics of people running behind spraying water trucks was gross because the water was like sewage water and was merely being sprayed to moisten the ground??/

anyway, i am not sure what to believe out of him, that is why i am here.
i am spiritual, artistic, poetic, musical and soulful...that is why i am attracted to some of what i here of this event.

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:49 pm

Here's my breakdown, trying not to jump to conclusions about the feller:

It was hot and dusty. The playa surface was rough for walking and biking. I did not shower for ten days. There was no ac during the day and no heat at night. (Unless you were near a firepit, then you were burnt on one side and cold on the other.) The "I'm not going back without an RV" could be a true expression of the young man's feelings.

His camp-mate was a pain in the butt and ran around in little more than dental floss. Very possible. I met a couple of dick-heads out there. I also saw lots of people in skimpy, or nonexistent, outfits.

The "It's not all that and no one was naked" is weird! Maybe he had a bad time and didn't enjoy it but the place was full of art and music. Literally hundred of art pieces were distributed across the playa and throughout the city. There were parties going on 24 hours a day and a variety of bars and night-clubs to hang out at. Burning Man would be a sexually charged city even if everyone was clothed. I can see that the conditions may have kept him from having a good time but I cannot see how he couldn't have noticed other people enjoying it. Maybe he was intentionally downplaying the fact that it is one really fucking big wild party.

If you want to come next year it should be for your own reasons, not for anyone else. Read and re-read the survival guide. Surf around the Burning Man site and see the pictures and read about everything. Search for burning man on flickr and see boring photos of people hanging around their camps not just the awesome photos of the highlights. If you're part of any other online communities see if anyone there has been to burning man. (That way you will know people on the play who share your interests.) Try and find regional events or burners in your area to get a feel for things.

Unexpect the expected.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:23 pm

blueangel wrote: i also found out that this person may have gulf war syndrome..wtf??? is this a real thing or not??? I feel like i am in a default world nightmare right now....don't know what to believe.

is this contagious if you are in a together? I am reading it is some bacteria that you can get thru sex, sweat, and just being in close proximity if someone coughs or sneezes....

"Gulf War Syndrome" is something that any somatic oddities of a Gulf War vet get lumped under, but doesn't seem to have any statistical reality. If there were an infectious agent, chances are that it would have spread pretty widely into the general population by now.

dr.placebo · Post by **dr.placebo** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:57 am

My 2 cents, somewhat redundant:

Like Crypto said, the statistical evidence is weak. Most likely "Gulf War Syndrome" is multicausal. PTSD makes up part of it, exposure to toxics and weird allergens may be contributors, but strange new contagious diseases are probably not present.

I can't say about your BF (or ex-BF) and this other woman. I know of cases where it's just friendship (including my own experience), and I know of cases where it really fucks up relationships. The event does carry a sexual charge, but that does not mean that everyone goes around trying to get laid (rumor has it that some get lucky anyway).

For me, nudity is perfectly OK and not sexual if the surrounding culture supports it. Full or partial nudity is accepted at Burning Man in general, although there will be at least a few who will not be able to handle it.

BM is not for wimps, even if you have an RV. It's hot in the day, cold at night, incredibly dry, frequently windy and dusty. It's difficult to shower and stay clean (helps to have low-water camping experience or have a friend who knows the drill). The music and noise never really stops, getting there and back is a pain, you need to be prepared so the desert does not kill you, and there can be some disagreeable jerks who don't respect boundaries or common sense.

So why go? For the interesting people, the generosity, the dancing, the art and eye candy, the community, and the chance to do something quite outside your normal experience. It's a great place to test your limits, providing that you want them tested. For many people it has the most amazing ability to open the heart.

Check out the pictures and the writing, talk to burners (the real problem is usually to get us to shut up), and give it some time to percolate. Best wishes, whatever your choice.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:10 am

blueangel wrote:
he does say that nothing happened, all platonic, though she ran around with a dental floss sized outfit

i dunno.......is it possible to go there with a member of the opposite sex and not feel like you want laid???

It's certainly distracting enough that you may not want to focus on any one thing that long, even if someone climbs up you.
It is especially true your first trip.

It may be that the reaction we all have is more from the overwhelming number of choices experienced, than any particular art or event.
Can anyone think of the last time they had more choices in a short time since childhood?

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:07 am

thanks for the info on the gulf war syndrome...been reading about it and it seems like there is a 50/50 take on if it exists...........

thanks everyone for your input and advice. I am glad i came here. I really want to experience this and i wish i could have gone this year but i guess 2009 will be the year i shoot for.

my b/f still insists he never ran across anybody naked. he was at 9:30 area and said he must of been in the wrong place....
i really don't care about what somebody wears or doesn't wear. just goddam tell me the truth.

if you did something with somebody that person has a right to know just for the sake of their health. i just am a very clean person and i am just concerned that he wasn't careful with the girl he brought though he still insists that it wasn't about sex..it was about saving $$$$. anyway my ass is going to the doctor to be sure.

said the girl was a pain in the ass and didn't appreciate the event at all. all she cared about was if she looked good riding her bike.

i am totally into the art and music scene. i have websites on my art as well as my music. I do murals etc..i can appreciate the experience and talent and time and love that goes into creating something to inspire others.... thats what i hope this event is about for me. not a fuck fest but a place to hang loose and not be afraid to express who you really are without societies borders to hem you in. i think that is what you guys are telling me.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:18 am

Well, this turned out to be a pretty good thread blueangel.
Eplaya should tag this one cause it seems to have some pretty helpful info in it.
Hey,
as far as your art and music goes, you should post it here sometime.
Always looking to see new work.

There was an Art thread I created here a few years back, well, a few things are missing on it now but like hey, you can always start a new one eh?

Love to see and hear some of your work.

I'm sure others would here also.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:22 am

gyre wrote: It may be that the reaction we all have is more from the overwhelming number of choices experienced, than any particular art or event.
Can anyone think of the last time they had more choices in a short time since childhood?

It is wonderful isn't it.
The human imagination just run-a-muck.
Spent the first few years wondering "how did the think of that"?
or "Why did they think of that"?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:59 am

yes goathead, i think you touched on one of the wonderful things about the ART at burningman....it is SPECIAL.....and why is it SPECIAL?

in our society, ART is an EXTRA, an afterthought, a side project, something we do when the requirements call for it as opposed to some other cultures where ART is an everyday/everybody experience.

everyone is an artist. EVERYONE.

BurningMan allows that to unfold and be shown without fear.

A blank Slate or canvas, a chance to be and do without the constraints and critiques of Defaultia.

The Ideas and works of Art that are produced for the playa and On the playa are outpourings of the human desire to be understood, and the need to create, which is inherent in all of us.

if there is one thing that i take away each year, it's a renewed sense of wonder and possibility, just like when you are a child, and the world is there for you to explore and enjoy, not to run and hide from.

To be as open and innocent as a child is one of the most enlightening and frightening things to do....you become vulnerable.

if the environment is such that it fosters and protects this openness, flowers of Beauty and Awe will Bloom in the fertile grounds of our own imaginations, and we ALL can till the soil and grow our own art.

The Collective energy of BurningMan (now i sound like some fucking hippy) is REAL and although it is scientifically unmeasurable, it is in my opinion, a much higher level of interaction and learning than we are used to in our "normal" lives....

and as much as people like to poo-poo our outlet for creative expression, most of them have never made the trip, and so therefore, know not of what they speak...

Come to the Playa, Look and Participate in the Artwork, the Lifework, the PROCESS of creation and destruction, and then give me your opinion of what Burning Man is.

hsdavis · Post by **hsdavis** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:07 am

9:30 was a "no nudie zone"! That might be why he didn't see any bare skin. I am glad to hear that you are planning on attending in 2009. It's something that you won't regret. As you start to plan, maybe your boyfriend will want to go with you as well. At this stage, keep an open mind and don't dwell on past things that he said.
Keep looking forward and you will be a happy person.

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:27 am

I agree with you...this is a damn good thread!!!

covering alot of ground......giving me a peace of mind and sparking my curiosity even more.....

, I am so wanting to get involved with something i can contribute come next year....

hsdavis oh thanks for the info on 9:30...........so he may be telling the truth? :roll: ooh....then i gotta drop the whole liar thing...maybe thats why he swears on jesus that he was in the wrong place

simon............wow! what you wrote actually gave me chills half way through reading it. so sincere.................( i don't care if you sound like a hippy

:lol: ) anyway, that was beautiful and i totally agree an art thread would be great to start here................

i have always felt like i wanted my art to be a part of something that meant something..........i have this desire to give...i teach art to adults and i derive true joy from it as well as music. Am i a hippy???? :lol: :lol:

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:27 am

Simon of the Playa wrote: now i sound like some fucking hippy

Quick drink this, you will feel better.

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:30 am

fuck shit up ...yum............i can drink this shit all day...........

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:32 am

ok.....goathead has a point.....my pyromania was'nt supposed to be discussed here, and i was promised that the 'incident' involving me and somecontraband firearms wouldnt be mentioned when trying to lure newbies in

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:39 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:ok.....goathead has a point.....my pyromania was'nt supposed to be discussed here, and i was promised that the 'incident' involving me and somecontraband firearms wouldnt be mentioned when trying to lure newbies in

Use the sparkly lures, that gets them. every time.
Unless your trolling for Earth Guardians, crushed PBR can is the most trusted bait then.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:47 am

hsdavis wrote:9:30 was a "no nudie zone"! That might be why he didn't see any bare skin.

LMAO
Yeah right......

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:05 am

Yes, Gang, and BlueAngel, this is a great thread!!!!!

Hey Blue Angel...After reading through page two...I sat here and wondered...Have you talked to said "lesbian dental floss clad gal"?

I would probly wanna know how "her" burn was.
And not even for the sake of saving/ending your relationship with BF.

I would love to hear what kind of burn she had?
Just 'cause boy had bad time, girl might have had a blast!...Not to mention...SHE could be your Burning buddy next year!
Show you the ropes...help you get your lists together...go thrifting for costumes together....hell ya might even find a damn great friend in her???

hhahaaa
Life IS pretty fucking funny sometimes....ya know?!

Call her up! invite her out for a chai tea/mocha java...maybe even use the excuse BF doesnt wanna go next yr but you do!

And above all...everyone always remember this...when you ARE in a monogamous relationship and the other party choses to have sex with another , its not the person they have sex with that is guilty!!!!
It the person in said relationship that said yes instead of no.

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:12 am

straight up my b/f (x in pending) swears straight up on jesus that he didnt see anybody butt naked...he keeps saying why lie about something so stupid?

i seriously have a thing against liars, if he is lying and at the same time says he wants to be with me forever, i am going to definitely leave him.

i dont want to waste my time.i have been with this guy for a few years now and we were talking about getting married before this trip...............

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:23 am

Yea, well said, Simon....... It reminds me of something posted a few years ago here ..... I don't remember, by whom, or I'd quote them......

But it went something like this:

In the default world, Art is a reflection of life...... at BurningMan, it's the other way around.

blueangel · Post by **blueangel** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:27 am

pinemom......about burning chick..........................

i called her and she hung up on me. she called him and said that she was pissed i had her number.........soooooooo i don't think she wants to be freinds with me. i just wanted to talk to her cause he didnt admit to even taking her until 3 weeks after he got back....said i wouldn't understand why he brought a girl since she was the only one going that would split $$$.

he got pissed because he said that he did not want anything to do with her since he merely picked her up on line to use to save bucks.....

they both took pics and he took his time getting back about giving her the ones with her in it and she got mad.

she had posted ones that he said she made him pose with her in. i said it looks like you were like a couple and he said people thought that and they had to keep correcting the fact they weren't. I said if people i know see these pics they might think you slept with her. He said it look like she was showing them so people thing she had a boyfriend..............He asked her to remove the pics and she got mad and said no. now they dont talk :?:

its all too weird.............................

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