What's a Palin

[ygmir]

DVD vs Lurker

[ygmir]

yes, I do, and I always enjoy our repartee.........

you have some interesting insights and draw conclusions I'd not have thought of......

It is, though, at times, fun to tease........hahahahahaa

See,

My roomates love to do that to me also.
They say they do it cause it's easy.
They actually love wasting time that way.
Go figure.

ok now, I like living alone....................

hahahaha

[DVD Burner]

Nah, just ask Doodad Pro and JFGGJJFGGJ, two proud Obama donors. They'll tell you that Obamas' on the up-and-up. Maybe they're registered to vote in Pennsylvania, with their pal Ben Dover, a registered Obama Democrat.

All perfectly normal, nothing to see here....

Cites please.

LOL Funny!

JK

Bet he wont post.

And still no post/cite.

Told ya.

[DVD Burner]

DVD vs Lurker

See, total entertainment. it's a "curb your enthusiasm" moment.

[Elderberry]

Cites please.

LOL Funny!

JK

Bet he wont post.

And still no post/cite.

Told ya.

I hate stating the obvious, but just wanted to make sure you knew that this was a joke?

JK

[DVD Burner]

Huh?

I'm going to bed now.

[lurker]

Here you go--and it's a twofer--it's got the bogus donors AND the broken pledge regarding campaign funding--

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OT ... UwZTQwY2E=

Now let's see....

[Elderberry]

Here you go--and it's a twofer--it's got the bogus donors AND the broken pledge regarding campaign funding--

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OT ... UwZTQwY2E=

Now let's see....

My only comment is that I think there is a mistatement regarding the data entry process. I don't think that they are each individually hand entered. I'm sure it is all an automated process, as I am sure that the letter stating that the fictitious donor had exceeded the campaign limits was automated as well.

There may be auditing that occurs long after the bookeeping; and only then would any mistakes or discrepencies be noticed.

How do I "know" this? I don't, but I do know that I have a much smaller company that accepts credit card payments over the internet--and everything is automated; from verification of the card, depositing of the money, doing the data entry and fulfilling the service. I only enter the process when someone calls with a problem. So, it makes total sense to me that this is the way Obama is doing it as well. It would almost be impossible to handle it manually one at a time.

JK

[lurker]

While I understand how your business works--I've been there, I also know that the FEC has stricter rules than business--because of the issue of illegal donors and such.

While there is probably some automation, I can't find an excuse for this.

No comment on his breaking that pledge?

[Elderberry]

No comment on his breaking that pledge?

Nope. I would have done the same thing--and so would have McCain, had he felt he had any hope of raising the amount of money Obama raised. So don't kid yourself on that either.

JK

[dr.placebo]

Here are two useful resources:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summa ... =N00009638

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summa ... =N00006424

It is interesting that so much of Obama's fundraising comes directly from individuals. While it may not be admirable that he made a promise about fundraising that he did not keep, it is arguable that his decision is actually more democratic and representative than McCain's.

Given the assertions by the McCain campaign, it is especially interesting that his "quality of disclosure" figures are better than McCain's. But in either case the disclosure numbers do not support massive fraud in fundraising.

[betrdanevr]

While I understand how your business works--I've been there, I also know that the FEC has stricter rules than business--because of the issue of illegal donors and such.

While there is probably some automation, I can't find an excuse for this.

No comment on his breaking that pledge?

Hey, lurker,

Is there any place you haven't been, anything you don't know about, anything you haven't researched BETTER than anyone else? Just checkin'. . .

[Elderberry]

Hey, lurker,

Is there any place you haven't been, anything you don't know about, anything you haven't researched BETTER than anyone else? Just checkin'. . .

I don't think so. I've asked him that question before too.

JK

[betrdanevr]

you're right......race riots, civil war and assassination NEVER happen in this country...

Absolutely NOT, Simon. Never, never, never.

I hate to put a wink and then post this, but I think we all knew there would be at least one inevitable plot:

Feds disrupt alleged plot targeting Obama

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes Jordan, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 10 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Two white supremacists allegedly plotted to go on a national killing spree, shooting and decapitating black people and ultimately targeting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, federal authorities said Monday.

In all, the two men whom officials described as neo-Nazi skinheads planned to kill 88 people — 14 by beheading, according to documents unsealed in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The spree, which initially targeted an unidentified predominantly African-American school, was to end with the two men driving toward Obama, "shooting at him from the windows," the documents show.

"Both individuals stated they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt," the court complaint states. "Both individuals further stated they knew they would and were willing to die during this attempt."

An Obama spokeswoman traveling with the senator in Pennsylvania had no immediate comment.

Sheriffs' deputies in Crockett County, Tenn., arrested the two suspects — Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn., and Paul Schlesselman 18, of Helena-West Helena, Ark. — Oct. 22 on unspecified charges. "Once we arrested the defendants and suspected they had violated federal law, we immediately contacted federal authorities," said Crockett County Sheriff Troy Klyce.

[Elderberry]

Yes, I think it made better news than it did an actual threat. Two idiots.

JK

[ygmir]

yeah, ya gotta figure they may have even gotten caught, purposely, just for the notoriety........and, of course, the press will run with it.
It'll be interesting if the press gets bored and decides to delve into their lives..........and, who they blame.......

[betrdanevr]

The subject may make good blase' jokes to you guys, but you know that
this is not out of the question considering some of the fringe elements of our society.

And don't forget the fairly recent tragic events of lone gunmen at our schools and universities -- not actually targeting a person that they could "blame."

Maybe these two couldn't have/wouldn't have, but we'll never know. And maybe they could have "taken out" a dozen or two at a political rally just for the shits and grins of it. Craziness abounds, though we hope it doesn't happen, but we've lived through a goodly enough amount of it, I think, to not just poo-poo the subject.

[Elderberry]

I wasn't poo-pooing the subject and I don't think ygmir was either; thought I really can't speak for him. Certainly this is a possibility--unfortunately, if it does happen it will be a surprise attack coming out of nowhere. It won't be done by a couple of idiots too stupid to not get caught.

So i guess I was just poo-pooing this particular foiled attempt.

Let's just hope it doesn't happen.

JK

[gyre]

Since their plot involved white tails and top hats, I'll wait to see if it was more than talk.
It's what happens when Curly teams up with Curly, without Moe.

[gyre]

Meanwhile,
back in the real world...

Dozens Of Call Center Workers Walk Off Job In Protest Rather Than Read McCain Script Attacking Obama
By Greg Sargent - October 27, 2008, 5:18PM

Some three dozen workers at a telemarketing call center in Indiana walked off the job rather than read an incendiary McCain campaign script attacking Barack Obama, according to two workers at the center and one of their parents.

Nina Williams, a stay-at-home mom in Lake County, Indiana, tells us that her daughter recently called her from her job at the center, upset that she had been asked to read a script attacking Obama for being "dangerously weak on crime," "coddling criminals," and for voting against "protecting children from danger."

Williams' daughter told her that up to 40 of her co-workers had refused to read the script, and had left the call center after supervisors told them that they would have to either read the call or leave, Williams says. The call center is called Americall, and it's located in Hobart, IN.

"They walked out," Williams says of her daughter and her co-workers, adding that they weren't fired but willingly sacrificed pay rather than read the lines. "They were told [by supervisors], `If you all leave, you're not gonna get paid for the rest of the day."

The daughter, who wanted her name withheld fearing retribution from her employer, confirmed the story to us. "It was like at least 40 people," the daughter said. "People thought the script was nasty and they didn't wanna read it."

A second worker at the call center confirmed the episode, saying that "at least 30" workers had walked out after refusing to read the script.

"We were asked to read something saying [Obama and Democrats] were against protecting children from danger," this worker said. "I wouldn't do it. A lot of people left. They thought it was disgusting."

This worker, too, confirmed sacrificing pay to walk out, saying her supervisor told her: "If you don't wanna phone it you can just go home for the day."

The script coincided with this robo-slime call running in other states, but because robocalling is illegal in Indiana it was being read by call center workers.

Representatives at Americall in Indiana, and at the company's corporate headquarters in Naperville, Illinois, didn't return calls for comment.

[lurker]

Is there any place you haven't been, anything you don't know about, anything you haven't researched BETTER than anyone else? Just checkin'. . .

Wow, answer the request for a cite....and get snark from people who can't refute it.

I have benn in several bands, worked in the financial sector, the medical field, the foodservice industry, insurance, manufacturing, sales and marketing, education, printing and publishing, retail, and quite a few other things.

My extensive list of occupations stems from the fact that I don't work well with humans. I have, on numerous occasions, designed processes that automated the task I was hired to do(I figured this would net me a cushy position--ha. It netted me a cushy position on my couch). But such is life.

I also write, sculpt, paint. I have my own (small) f/x business--that grew out of the costume business we closed down a few years back.

And I read and study voraciously. Wnen you stop learning you start dying.

I'd like to thank you for admitting that I research 'better'' than the people I debate with, but I find that it's simply a matter of keeping oneself informed--and I hardly think I'm 'better' at it than anyone--though I do find a laxness in a lot of people who come roaring to the debate--and a willingness, in them, to gloss over their erors--and even re-introduce their errors as soon as they think they can do so without getting immediately smacked down.

While I may appear stridently partisan, I DO try to make it clear that I am not. My appearance of partisanship comes only from what I percieve as a shocking lack of curiosity or cynicism about the man who might very well be president-elect in a week.

[lurker]

Still waitin' for ya, DVD...

Here's something fun--

http://www.nmatv.com/video/229/1-More-B4-11-04

[Simon of the Playa]

My extensive list of occupations stems from the fact that I don't work well with humans.

no shit, i would have never guessed.



more importantly though is WHAT DO YOU LOOK LIKE?

are you FAT?, Ugly? Hairy ? Bald ? Well hung or UnSlung?

THATS WHAT MATTERS! i care not what is in your head, but more importantly, who can you entice to your Bed?


yeah, thats right, Democrats get WAY more prime pussy, and I for one, being exceedingly handsome, get the prime-est.

But hey, God was feeling good the day i was born...


so Lurker, the Big Question is.......WHEN DO WE GET A PIC?

[ygmir]

I wasn't poo-pooing the subject and I don't think ygmir was either; thought I really can't speak for him. Certainly this is a possibility--unfortunately, if it does happen it will be a surprise attack coming out of nowhere. It won't be done by a couple of idiots too stupid to not get caught.

So i guess I was just poo-pooing this particular foiled attempt.

Let's just hope it doesn't happen.

JK

well JK. at least this time you can speak for me.

Betrdanevr:
I'd hardly call my post a "poo poo". I think I gave it the notice it deserves......not much.
IMHO, it was never considered possible. Sure, they'd commit, or attempt, heinous acts. but, you gotta know they had no chance.......
I noted that, to me, they were after the notoriety, and, even if subconsciously, planned to get caught.......

Along with that, the fact is, all candidates are threatened during campaigns........that's what all the security is for.....and, it has worked for a long time. They do their jobs.......

[gyre]

comes only from what I perceive as a shocking lack of curiosity or cynicism about the man who might very well be president-elect in a week.

I have asked questions directly and received answers I agree with, but rather vague, which is rather typical of people running for office.
My lack of detailed info is why I haven't joined the campaign office, as I've been invited.

[betrdanevr]

Since their plot involved white tails and top hats, I'll wait to see if it was more than talk.
It's what happens when Curly teams up with Curly, without Moe.

http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/ ... 0funny.gif

Okay, guys. Points well taken.

[lurker]

Given the assertions by the McCain campaign, it is especially interesting that his "quality of disclosure" figures are better than McCain's. But in either case the disclosure numbers do not support massive fraud in fundraising.

Are you kidding? That doesn't look strange to you? Particularly in light of 'individual donors' like Doodad Pro, JFGGJJFGGJ, Good Will and god knows how many others?

Or that Obama's campaign accepts donations under names that are charged to other credit cards? A Mark Steyn reader donated under the name Adolphe Hitler, Reichstag St, Berlin, Germany and the donation was acceptedc--despite the obvious foreign address, despite the fact that the name was obviously phony and did not match the credit card donating.

You could have a 100% 'quality of disclosure' if NONE of this was ever exposed.

It frightens me that you all think this is okay.

[ygmir]

yeah, funny how that works..........

I'm sure it'll be a non-issue, in the eyes of the media........
I wonder, if were the other candidate, would it be the same?

[gyre]

Since their plot involved white tails and top hats, I'll wait to see if it was more than talk.
It's what happens when Curly teams up with Curly, without Moe.

http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/ ... 0funny.gif

Okay, guys. Points well taken.

Was that what you were going for?
Cute.

[dr.placebo]

My extensive list of occupations stems from the fact that I don't work well with humans.

Agree.

While I may appear stridently partisan, I DO try to make it clear that I am not.

Disagree.