Please say "Fuck You and hope you die to GW Bush!
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GW Bush admits he didn't have any answers and you shouldn't have expected that he did or that we should act within a global community and homeland security wasn't a form of government expansionism or that you expected him to have a sound budget plan of paying for what you spend-
"They tend to think Washington has the answers to our problems,â€
"They tend to think Washington has the answers to our problems,â€
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Joel!!You libertarian fuck head! How goes it muthafukka?
A big Fuck You to Philip Zelikow...may you find yourself in hell behind 5 million cataracked old satanic grannies paying for tons of groceries with billions and billions of pennies.
I joined the NRA. There. I did. Now I shoot conservative books in Texas and that's a fact jack.
A big Fuck You to Philip Zelikow...may you find yourself in hell behind 5 million cataracked old satanic grannies paying for tons of groceries with billions and billions of pennies.
I joined the NRA. There. I did. Now I shoot conservative books in Texas and that's a fact jack.
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Strike April 15
I know I already posted a thread about this, but this comment belongs in so many different conversations.
Please, if you do not like the things that the backers of Bush have done (we all can tell bush isn't that smart...bush is bad, but the people that tell him what to do/say are the real threat), then please help stand up the central bankers on April 15, 2008.
If enough people stand up on April 15 against the central bankers, then we may be able to get rid of the IRS and Federal Reserve and de-throne the central bankers to ensure that there is not another Bush-puppet put in power in the future.
Please see my post under the general forum and watch these links:
Please, if you do not like the things that the backers of Bush have done (we all can tell bush isn't that smart...bush is bad, but the people that tell him what to do/say are the real threat), then please help stand up the central bankers on April 15, 2008.
If enough people stand up on April 15 against the central bankers, then we may be able to get rid of the IRS and Federal Reserve and de-throne the central bankers to ensure that there is not another Bush-puppet put in power in the future.
Please see my post under the general forum and watch these links:
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...maybe we should just break down all forms of organization and structure in this country and then just line everyone up, pick captains and then the captains will pick teams and then everything will just be great and pure and not corrupt.
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She sells Seashells down by the seashore.
I'm sure you'll find buyers down here on the shores of Lahontan.
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brilliant, I'm with you on this one............thirt33n wrote:...maybe we should just break down all forms of organization and structure in this country and then just line everyone up, pick captains and then the captains will pick teams and then everything will just be great and pure and not corrupt.
She sells Seashells down by the seashore.
I'm sure you'll find buyers down here on the shores of Lahontan.
Cruxie
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Thanks for the Republican-Fuck-Me-Up-The-Ass economy Mr. Bush and And that Iraq war that up American in the fucking toilet.
Everyone hates the Americans Just like they fucking hate the Germans.
You have destroyed the Free World!
Fuck you GW Bush and have a fucking great day!
Also a hardy Fuck you to all you Republican Eplayans that voted for GW Bush!
Fuck you too!
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Everyone hates the Americans Just like they fucking hate the Germans.
You have destroyed the Free World!
Fuck you GW Bush and have a fucking great day!
Also a hardy Fuck you to all you Republican Eplayans that voted for GW Bush!
Fuck you too!
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Here's bush's legacy;
"Already, since food prices began to rise 100 million more people have been pushed into poverty, according to the World Bank, with as many as two billion on the verge of disaster"
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/r ... TNMostRead
2 billion,,, that's quite a legacy.
"Already, since food prices began to rise 100 million more people have been pushed into poverty, according to the World Bank, with as many as two billion on the verge of disaster"
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/r ... TNMostRead
2 billion,,, that's quite a legacy.
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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can't sit still wrote:Here's bush's legacy;
"Already, since food prices began to rise 100 million more people have been pushed into poverty, according to the World Bank, with as many as two billion on the verge of disaster"
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/r ... TNMostRead
2 billion,,, that's quite a legacy.
I think it's all Stephen Harpers fault.............
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Good morning fuck ass Bush!
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/env ... 9967.story
Bush administration seeks last-minute regulations
Many of the new rules would weaken consumer and environmental protections and could be difficult for McCain or Obama to undo.
By R. Jeffrey Smith
October 31, 2008
Reporting from Washington -- The White House is working to enact an array of federal regulations, many of which would weaken rules aimed at protecting consumers and the environment, before President Bush leaves office in January.
The new rules would be among the most controversial deregulatory steps of the Bush era and could be difficult for his successor to undo. Some would ease or lift existing constraints on private industry, including power plants, mines and farms.
Those and other regulations would help clear obstacles to some commercial ocean-fishing activities, ease controls on pollutants that contribute to global warming, relax drinking-water standards and lift a key restriction on mountaintop coal mining.
Once such rules take effect, they typically can be undone only through a laborious new regulatory proceeding, including lengthy periods of public comment, drafting and mandated reanalysis.
"They want these rules to continue to have an impact long after they leave office," said Matthew Madia, a regulatory expert at OMB Watch, a nonprofit group critical of what it calls the Bush administration's penchant for deregulating in areas where industry wants more freedom.
White House spokesman Tony Fratto responded that "this administration has taken extraordinary measures to avoid rushing regulations at the end of the term. And yes, we'd prefer our regulations stand for a very long time -- they're well-reasoned and are being considered with the best interests of the nation in mind."
As many as 90 new regulations are in the works, and at least nine are considered "economically significant" because they would impose costs or promote societal benefits that exceed $100 million annually. They include new rules governing employees who take family- and medical-related leaves, new standards for preventing or containing oil spills, and a simplified process for settling real estate transactions.
Although it remains unclear how much the administration will be able to accomplish in the coming weeks, the last-minute rush appears to involve fewer regulations than Bush's predecessor, Bill Clinton, approved at the end of his tenure.
In some cases, the regulations reflect new interpretations of language in federal laws. In other cases, such as several new counter-terrorism initiatives, they reflect new executive branch decisions in areas where Congress -- now out of session and focused on the elections -- left the president considerable discretion.
The last-minute activity has made this a busy period for lobbyists who fear that industry views will hold less sway after the November elections.
According to the Office of Management and Budget's regulatory calendar, representatives of the commercial scallop fishing industry came in two weeks ago to urge that proposed catch limits be eased, nearly bumping into National Mining Assn. officials who want to ease rules meant to keep coal slurry waste out of Appalachian streams. A few days earlier, lawyers for kidney dialysis and biotechnology companies registered their complaints at the OMB about new Medicare reimbursement rules.
Bush's aides are acutely aware of the political risks of completing their regulatory work too late. On the afternoon of Bush's inauguration, Jan. 20, 2001, his chief of staff issued a government-wide memo that blocked the completion or implementation of regulations drafted in the waning days of the Clinton administration that had not yet taken legal effect.
"Through the end of the Clinton administration, we were working like crazy to get as many regulations out as possible," said Donald Arbuckle, who retired in 2006 after 25 years as a career official at the OMB. "Then on Sunday, the day after the inauguration, OMB Director Mitch Daniels called me in and said, 'Let's pull back as many of these as we can.' "
Clinton's appointees paid a heavy price for procrastination. Bush's team was able to withdraw 254 regulations that covered matters from drug and airline safety to immigration and indoor air pollutants. After further review, many of the proposals were modified to reflect Republican policy ideals or were scrapped altogether.
Seeking to avoid falling victim to the same partisan tactics, White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten in May imposed a Nov. 1 government-wide deadline to finish major new Bush administration regulations, "except in extraordinary circumstances."
That gives officials just weeks to meet an effective Nov. 20 deadline for the publication of economically significant rules, which take effect only after a 60-day congressional comment period. Less important rules take effect after a 30-day period, creating a second deadline of Dec. 20.
As the deadlines near, the administration has begun to issue regulations of great interest to industry, including, in recent days, a rule that allows the nation's natural gas pipelines to operate at higher pressures and new Homeland Security rules that shift passenger security screening responsibilities from airlines to the federal government. The OMB also approved a new limit on airborne emissions of lead this month, acting under a court-imposed deadline.
Many of the rules would ease environmental regulations, according to sources familiar with the administration's internal deliberations.
A rule put forward by the National Marine Fisheries Service and now under final review by the OMB would lift a requirement that environmental impact statements be prepared for certain fisheries-management decisions and would give review authority to regional councils dominated by commercial and recreational fishing interests.
An Alaska commercial fishing industry source, granted anonymity so he could speak candidly about private conversations, said senior administration officials promised to "get the rule done by the end of this month" and that the outcome would be a big improvement over existing regulations.
Two other rules nearing completion would ease limits on pollution from power plants, a major energy industry goal for the last eight years that is strenuously opposed by Democratic lawmakers and environmental groups.
A third rule would allow increased emissions from oil refineries, chemical factories and other plants with complex manufacturing operations.
Eternal glorification to the person that puts Bush in Jail for treason!
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http://www.latimes.com/news/science/env ... 9967.story
Bush administration seeks last-minute regulations
Many of the new rules would weaken consumer and environmental protections and could be difficult for McCain or Obama to undo.
By R. Jeffrey Smith
October 31, 2008
Reporting from Washington -- The White House is working to enact an array of federal regulations, many of which would weaken rules aimed at protecting consumers and the environment, before President Bush leaves office in January.
The new rules would be among the most controversial deregulatory steps of the Bush era and could be difficult for his successor to undo. Some would ease or lift existing constraints on private industry, including power plants, mines and farms.
Those and other regulations would help clear obstacles to some commercial ocean-fishing activities, ease controls on pollutants that contribute to global warming, relax drinking-water standards and lift a key restriction on mountaintop coal mining.
Once such rules take effect, they typically can be undone only through a laborious new regulatory proceeding, including lengthy periods of public comment, drafting and mandated reanalysis.
"They want these rules to continue to have an impact long after they leave office," said Matthew Madia, a regulatory expert at OMB Watch, a nonprofit group critical of what it calls the Bush administration's penchant for deregulating in areas where industry wants more freedom.
White House spokesman Tony Fratto responded that "this administration has taken extraordinary measures to avoid rushing regulations at the end of the term. And yes, we'd prefer our regulations stand for a very long time -- they're well-reasoned and are being considered with the best interests of the nation in mind."
As many as 90 new regulations are in the works, and at least nine are considered "economically significant" because they would impose costs or promote societal benefits that exceed $100 million annually. They include new rules governing employees who take family- and medical-related leaves, new standards for preventing or containing oil spills, and a simplified process for settling real estate transactions.
Although it remains unclear how much the administration will be able to accomplish in the coming weeks, the last-minute rush appears to involve fewer regulations than Bush's predecessor, Bill Clinton, approved at the end of his tenure.
In some cases, the regulations reflect new interpretations of language in federal laws. In other cases, such as several new counter-terrorism initiatives, they reflect new executive branch decisions in areas where Congress -- now out of session and focused on the elections -- left the president considerable discretion.
The last-minute activity has made this a busy period for lobbyists who fear that industry views will hold less sway after the November elections.
According to the Office of Management and Budget's regulatory calendar, representatives of the commercial scallop fishing industry came in two weeks ago to urge that proposed catch limits be eased, nearly bumping into National Mining Assn. officials who want to ease rules meant to keep coal slurry waste out of Appalachian streams. A few days earlier, lawyers for kidney dialysis and biotechnology companies registered their complaints at the OMB about new Medicare reimbursement rules.
Bush's aides are acutely aware of the political risks of completing their regulatory work too late. On the afternoon of Bush's inauguration, Jan. 20, 2001, his chief of staff issued a government-wide memo that blocked the completion or implementation of regulations drafted in the waning days of the Clinton administration that had not yet taken legal effect.
"Through the end of the Clinton administration, we were working like crazy to get as many regulations out as possible," said Donald Arbuckle, who retired in 2006 after 25 years as a career official at the OMB. "Then on Sunday, the day after the inauguration, OMB Director Mitch Daniels called me in and said, 'Let's pull back as many of these as we can.' "
Clinton's appointees paid a heavy price for procrastination. Bush's team was able to withdraw 254 regulations that covered matters from drug and airline safety to immigration and indoor air pollutants. After further review, many of the proposals were modified to reflect Republican policy ideals or were scrapped altogether.
Seeking to avoid falling victim to the same partisan tactics, White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten in May imposed a Nov. 1 government-wide deadline to finish major new Bush administration regulations, "except in extraordinary circumstances."
That gives officials just weeks to meet an effective Nov. 20 deadline for the publication of economically significant rules, which take effect only after a 60-day congressional comment period. Less important rules take effect after a 30-day period, creating a second deadline of Dec. 20.
As the deadlines near, the administration has begun to issue regulations of great interest to industry, including, in recent days, a rule that allows the nation's natural gas pipelines to operate at higher pressures and new Homeland Security rules that shift passenger security screening responsibilities from airlines to the federal government. The OMB also approved a new limit on airborne emissions of lead this month, acting under a court-imposed deadline.
Many of the rules would ease environmental regulations, according to sources familiar with the administration's internal deliberations.
A rule put forward by the National Marine Fisheries Service and now under final review by the OMB would lift a requirement that environmental impact statements be prepared for certain fisheries-management decisions and would give review authority to regional councils dominated by commercial and recreational fishing interests.
An Alaska commercial fishing industry source, granted anonymity so he could speak candidly about private conversations, said senior administration officials promised to "get the rule done by the end of this month" and that the outcome would be a big improvement over existing regulations.
Two other rules nearing completion would ease limits on pollution from power plants, a major energy industry goal for the last eight years that is strenuously opposed by Democratic lawmakers and environmental groups.
A third rule would allow increased emissions from oil refineries, chemical factories and other plants with complex manufacturing operations.
Eternal glorification to the person that puts Bush in Jail for treason!
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The period after the election of a new president is were the most damage can be done. This was the time that Bill Clinton sign a bill that allowed the subprime mortgage fiasco.
I think its time to end the power of a president as soon as a new president has been elected and sworn in within 24 hours of that moment. Congress must stay in session until that moment.
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I think its time to end the power of a president as soon as a new president has been elected and sworn in within 24 hours of that moment. Congress must stay in session until that moment.
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The main problem with that is handling the transition.Apollonaris Zeus wrote:I mean itjkisha wrote:You might want to think that one through a bit more; if I am understanding it as you mean it.
JK
Maybe a better way would be to have a period where the out-going administration cannot pass legislation that does not have time to be properly vetted and would have lasting effect on the country after the administration leaves office.
JK
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That's it! It is not reviewed by congress and its difficult for the next president to remove those actions. When congress is not in session, the president can sign a lot of bills, but those have to submitted by a congressman and it first needs to be passed by a majority vote. But a lame duck president sitting in office during the last few day has the power to override those regulations. Only then does he have full power without the approval of congress.ygmir wrote:Am I beating a dead horse, or, is all the legislation you refer to still dependant on congress?.............they should be able to derail bad stuff.......
also, can't any "decree" be overturned by the incoming prez?
again, if they wanted to..........
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wow, that's interesting...........but, congress still has to approve it, in the standard fashion, before it gets to his desk? right?Apollonaris Zeus wrote:That's it! It is not reviewed by congress and its difficult for the next president to remove those actions. When congress is not in session, the president can sign a lot of bills, but those have to submitted by a congressman and it first needs to be passed by a majority vote. But a lame duck president sitting in office during the last few day has the power to override those regulations. Only then does he have full power without the approval of congress.ygmir wrote:Am I beating a dead horse, or, is all the legislation you refer to still dependant on congress?.............they should be able to derail bad stuff.......
also, can't any "decree" be overturned by the incoming prez?
again, if they wanted to..........
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How does he get around that in the last few days?..........
I understand the "executive order" thing, but, I'm pretty sure the incoming can just countermand it the same way.........
I thought about the only thing they can do when leaving, and they all do it, is pardoning criminals...............and that can't be undone.
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I relatively recently heard about "presidential signing statements" I believe they are called. Basically, it is an adendum to ANY bill that congress passes that the president doesn't like. He can for most intent and purpose override the meaning of the bill or totally weaken its effect. I was again shocked to hear that the president can override congress in this way. It only began being reported and common knowledge because of the number of signing statements issued by GWB--more than any other president in history, if memory serves.
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Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me