RV'ers vs. tent'ers...why the hostility

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:48 pm

I'd expect a raghut dweller to come to the conclusion that tents offer greater comfort just because they spent the night on the floor of someone's RV!

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:12 am

The real problem are the people with pop-up campers-- they can't decide between a tent or an RV!

(Of course the REAL burners build their dwelling out of playa dust!)

FilXeno · Post by **FilXeno** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:01 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:I'd expect a raghut dweller to come to the conclusion that tents offer greater comfort just because they spent the night on the floor of someone's RV!

Hey man,
You can just be quiet and go make dinner in your metal box!

(did that sound hostile enough?)

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:50 am

FilXeno wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:I'd expect a raghut dweller to come to the conclusion that tents offer greater comfort just because they spent the night on the floor of someone's RV!
Hey man,
You can just be quiet and go make dinner in your metal box!

(did that sound hostile enough?)

Just make sure you've got enough food for everyone!

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:20 am

FilXeno wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:I'd expect a raghut dweller to come to the conclusion that tents offer greater comfort just because they spent the night on the floor of someone's RV!
Hey man,
You can just be quiet and go make dinner in your metal box!

(did that sound hostile enough?)

Not quite..................here, let me try...........

May a horde of zebra mussell's infect you lower unit, you big dummy!!

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:03 am

My first time going I wanted to rent an RV. My partner was against it and during the 'discussion' too much time passed and there were none to be had; so to my partner's delight, we tented.

I think that tenting is actually more in the 'spirit' of the event; but was still a bit envious of the RVers. Especially during the dust storms.

The following year we built a hexayurt, and loved it--it's the best of both worlds. It keeped us close to the event, yet not as removed as being in an RV. And the biggest advantage was that it was cool and dust-free.

Part of the enjoyment for me is seeing just how comfortable I can make the experience and overcome the elements, yet not resort to the 'simple' fix by resorting to an RV.

But that's just me; I have nothing against them on the playa.

JK

FilXeno · Post by **FilXeno** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:56 pm

Sail Man wrote:
FilXeno wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:I'd expect a raghut dweller to come to the conclusion that tents offer greater comfort just because they spent the night on the floor of someone's RV!
Hey man,
You can just be quiet and go make dinner in your metal box!

(did that sound hostile enough?)
Not quite..................here, let me try...........

May a horde of zebra mussell's infect you lower unit, you big dummy!!

Thanks for the help!

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:25 pm

What was the deal with the Rag (newspaper) on the Playa the year. I can't remember the name, but they did an article on something that included "pigs" and "pig meat". It was really dumb sounding and I think they might have been talking about BACON! Is it wrong to spank ass with BACON??

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:52 pm

It might be easier for me to accept my limitations if I could glorify them somehow. Who fully participates and why they bring what they bring is an argument I have no bias about. Truthfully, I am not making these decisions based on what I feel the true spirit of the event is. I have a tent because it fits in my car, fits in my budget, and it fits in my very small apartment when I'm not using it. I cannot RV. Thankfully, I really like small things that unfold into big useful things. Now I can get into the gear head mentality of camping in general. I covet cool things that will fit in my car and expand into as much luxury as possible: a tent I can stand up in, a cot that is regular bed height, a thick and wide foam pad. My Burning man innertia like most is towards expansion. If I had the (space, money, time, materials) is a fun time passing rumination for me with regards to Burning Man. Dreaming is part of it. Finding the thing that packs down smaller, is lighter, is brighter, etc. is part of it too. Being at Burning Man, kicking back in the morning, in the shade with a cup of coffee, I'm watching the day get underway: that's my current happy place. I think it wouldn't matter to me where I slept or bathed or cooked. That chair and that cup of coffee would be exactly the same.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:20 am

FilXeno wrote:
Sail Man wrote:
FilXeno wrote: Hey man,
You can just be quiet and go make dinner in your metal box!

(did that sound hostile enough?)
Not quite..................here, let me try...........

May a horde of zebra mussell's infect you lower unit, you big dummy!!

Thanks for the help!

You're all doo-doo heads.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:27 am

Yeah, but you're the head doo-doo.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:32 am

why dont we just get it over with and set up a permanent trailer park next to Planet X and offer shuttle service to the playa all day every day.

in the future, theme oriented trailer parks will replace condos, and gated communities. This will allow white trash of similar ilk and habits to live together in harmony.

"WELCOME TO EIGHT-BALL CITY"

"Happy Hippy Hemp Heaven"

"FAG WORLD"

"Yahoo Wahoo"

"Rave -o- Rama"

and of course, my favorite...

"METH LAB MEETING HOUSE AND SOCIAL CLUB"

shanty-town here we come!

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:53 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:
FilXeno wrote:
Sail Man wrote: Not quite..................here, let me try...........

May a horde of zebra mussell's infect you lower unit, you big dummy!!

Thanks for the help!
You're all doo-doo heads.

FilXeno, no problem, somebody's gotta yank the Captain's anchor chain

Captain: have you pumped out your head lately? that may be were the real doo doo is

Post by **mdmf007** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:24 pm

I cant keep whatever truck i drive to BM from getting destroyed by dust - an RV is 10 times worse - if it was rented, i would get screwed by cleaning fees, and if it was my personal RV - i would never want to use it again.

I llike my tractor trailer - a much easier alternative. Set up some cots in it, turn the reefer to 62 (highest it goes) and enjoy. end of event, make everyone help out cleaning and simply hose out and scrub with a broom. takes 20 minutes to clean the interior. cheap too - you can get a 40 footer for 2-3K with crapped out tires, or a little more for decent tires. rent a tractor to haul it and cram 30 of your friends into it. costs about 100 each for the rental, insurance, fuel, and a great time (foods an additional 75.00) also hauls 2000 gallons of water in poly tanks.

later

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:02 pm

Sail Man wrote: Captain: have you pumped out your head lately? that may be were the real doo doo is

Ironically, I'm heading to the marina to do just that right now!

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:21 am

Simon of the Playa wrote: shanty-town here we come!

Shanty-town, we've been there for years!

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:41 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sail Man wrote: Captain: have you pumped out your head lately? that may be were the real doo doo is
Ironically, I'm heading to the marina to do just that right now!

Yeah, don't know about you, but that def. means the season is over for me. And then when they haul my baby out

Now she is on the cradle, winter cover in place, nothing to do now but wait for spring.

fciron wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote: shanty-town here we come!
Shanty-town, we've been there for years!

For some reason, my rag, er, tent wouldnt support my weight so I had to use the roof of my neighbors rv to take pix of the scene, and boy, did third world refugee camp ever spring to mind

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:52 pm

Sail Man wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sail Man wrote: Captain: have you pumped out your head lately? that may be were the real doo doo is
Ironically, I'm heading to the marina to do just that right now!
Yeah, don't know about you, but that def. means the season is over for me. And then when they haul my baby out
Now she is on the cradle, winter cover in place, nothing to do now but wait for spring.

I'm going to keep mine afloat all winter, it has good heat and I have some burners coming up from Portland to go on the Christmas Cruise water parade... if business holds up well enough for me to afford the hefty Lake Washington moorage fees! Seattle isn't cheap these days!

But I didn't get the holding tank emptied, the screw-on cap was stuck again, I gotta go back with a big pipe wrench.

So I'm still full of shit.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:52 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sail Man wrote:
Captain Goddammit wrote: Ironically, I'm heading to the marina to do just that right now!
Yeah, don't know about you, but that def. means the season is over for me. And then when they haul my baby out
Now she is on the cradle, winter cover in place, nothing to do now but wait for spring.

I'm going to keep mine afloat all winter, it has good heat and I have some burners coming up from Portland to go on the Christmas Cruise water parade... if business holds up well enough for me to afford the hefty Lake Washington moorage fees! Seattle isn't cheap these days!

But I didn't get the holding tank emptied, the screw-on cap was stuck again, I gotta go back with a big pipe wrench.

So I'm still full of shit.

Damn those screw on caps, thats why I try and hang it off the transom whenever possible

Does your XMas parade involve extra-curricular lighting? Here in Detroit in June on the D River they have a parade of lights contest. I havent done it yet, but with my current boat (Catalina 27) I plan to enter it next summer. Once the holidays are over it will be time to brainstorm over the req. beverages with fellow burners to do it up proper

I hear you on slip fee's. I've read how in your neck of the woods they've really put the squeeze on the lower cost end of the spectrum in regards to slips and live-aboards. Here, I pay 1450$ for a 30' slip where I drag bottom w/my keel. I'd like deeper water, but I either pay way more out the ass at a diff. marina or take it up the

to join a "yacht club".

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:26 pm

Our Xmas boat parade is kinda' like BM, all just for fun, no contests or prizes. You don't even register, you just show up, tune in to VHF ch. 9, and fall in line.
My boat is a powerboat (28' flybridge cabin cruiser) but sailboats like yours are totally the shit when it comes to xmas lighting! You've got that tall mast to hang 'em from... if you lived here I'd wanna use yours!

Oh wow... I just realized... tenters and RVers at BM have friction, yet two burners, a sailboater and a powerboater, the classic rivals, get along fine! WTF?

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:50 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:Oh wow... I just realized... tenters and RVers at BM have friction, yet two burners, a sailboater and a powerboater, the classic rivals, get along fine! WTF?

LMAO, it's gotta be the water and beer. I was at Put-in-Bay (A Drinking Island with a Boating Problem in western Lake Erie) a few summers back. Heard of a powerboater who ruined his prop hitting some rocks and in replacing it needed a cotter pin. As I had a bunch, I offered him what he needed, with the caveat that he tell his friends a sailboater helped him out. He asked if he could just offer me a beer instead which of course I accepted.

And I have been on the receiving end of aid as well, having been towed in by a powerboater when my motor failed to run. (And of course I paid him back in beer) You know we gotta stick together, if it isn't that darn Coast Guard out to get us, it's that predatory BoatUS