Three More Years!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:47 am

People that voted for Obama because you wanted the Iraq conflict to end need to send some letters or email need to speak out why another Three Years.

He said 16 Months. Now its twice that much!

He will lose support at least mine if he extends it more his pledge of 16 months

sent your email to [email protected]

AIIZ

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:15 am

I thought he's not allowed to email anymore?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:31 am

I think he's going to find a lot of what he thought and promised was naive.........

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:34 am

Yes, I give huge support to any man woman or ? that decides it wants to be the president.

The idea that as soon as you sit in that chair in the oval office and all the SECRET stuff is opened up in front of you....
....Must make even a grown hard hearted man cry!

The amount of BS that our USA has in secret files....I could only imagine the Pres. saying O holy shit batman, how the hell am I gonna do that if THAT exsists.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:38 am

I still have to question the judgment of anyone wanting that job.............

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:58 am

He said 16 Months. Now its twice that much!

That's because he was lying--it's what politicians do.

He will lose support at least mine if he extends it more his pledge of 16 months

What are you gonna do? Go back in time and take back your vote? He doesn't care about your support anymore--even better, he knows that when 2012 rolls around you'll vote for him and cheer for him, and defend him mightily--because you'll be damned if a Republican is getting in.

You've been sheared of what you're good for--in four years they'll come around for the next crop.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:42 am

pinemom wrote:The idea that as soon as you sit in that chair in the oval office and all the SECRET stuff is opened up in front of you....
....Must make even a grown hard hearted man cry!

The amount of BS that our USA has in secret files....I could only imagine the Pres. saying O holy shit batman, how the hell am I gonna do that if THAT exsists.

Are you kidding me, from what intelligence gathering agency?

You don't mean the same ones that gave us the Iraq WMD reports in the first place?

Yeah like I would believe anything they say or have said?

We have the finest spy satelites and they can't find pirate ships on the ocean!

hey lurker Fuck Off!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:49 am

Or this news from today!

C.I.A. Withheld Data in Peru Plane Crash Inquiry
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By MARK MAZZETTI
Published: November 20, 2008
WASHINGTON â€” An internal investigation by the Central Intelligence Agency has found that the agency withheld crucial information from federal investigators who spent years trying to determine whether C.I.A. officers committed crimes related to the accidental downing of a missionary plane in Peru in 2001.

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Times Topics: Central Intelligence AgencyThe August 2008 report by John L. Helgerson, the C.I.A.â€™s inspector general, could lead the Justice Department to reopen its investigation into the shooting, examining in particular whether senior C.I.A. officers obstructed justice or lied to Congress by burying details about the episode and the C.I.A.â€™s broader counternarcotics program.

A C.I.A. surveillance aircraft mistakenly identified the plane as a drug-smuggling aircraft, and a Peruvian military jet shot it down, killing an American missionary and her 7-month-old daughter. The Justice Department closed its investigation into the matter in 2005, declining to prosecute agency officers for any actions related to the episode.

But Mr. Helgersonâ€™s report, parts of which were made public on Thursday, said that the Justice Department investigators and Congress were never allowed access to internal C.I.A. reviews that portrayed the downing as one mistake among many in the agencyâ€™s counternarcotics program in Peru. The report said the agency routinely authorized interceptions of suspected drug planes â€œwithout adequate safeguards to protect against the loss of innocent life.â€

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:53 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
pinemom wrote:The idea that as soon as you sit in that chair in the oval office and all the SECRET stuff is opened up in front of you....
....Must make even a grown hard hearted man cry!

The amount of BS that our USA has in secret files....I could only imagine the Pres. saying O holy shit batman, how the hell am I gonna do that if THAT exsists.

We have the finest spy satelites and they can't find pirate ships on the ocean!

!

that's assuming they want to find them, or, tell anyone if they did......so much is a chess game............or at least that's how many see it......
I think a lot of the info we get is altered, at best, or, deliberately misleading, to further another goal, we may not even know about....

I think Pinemom has a good point about what happens when the "new" guy gets all the info......
that's why I'm so skeptical about promises made in a campaign............

"Now, you go give Lurker a hug and make nice, mister. or........."

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:54 am

hey lurker Fuck Off!

ummmm...No?

Did you fall and hit your head AIIZ?

I mean, yeah, you're one of the sheeple and all, but usually you're better with those rejoinders.

I'm sorry to have to say that a politician lied to you and has no further use for you right now, but isn't that a general truth--no red/blue/ left/right partisanship needed--politicians, as a general rule, suck.

Oh, gods, tell me you all didn't REALLY think Obama was going to be different.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:56 am

Of course I'll give him a hug- at the Meet and Greet!

So fuck off!

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:14 am

You know, if I hug you at the meat and greet, I really won't be able to say I'm me--it would destroy my mysterious persona as 'lurker'

And it's looking shaky right now--I got two kids graduating and heading out to college at precisely the wrong time.

Plus I wanted an RV this year---and that's not looking too good right now either.

But, if I get this thing in my workshop finished finally, I could do the meat'n'greet in full kit........hmmmmm--I'd have more than enough appendages to hug with, that's for sure.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:49 pm

dirty little secret:

it takes very nasty people to deal with very nasty enemy people so we pure and noble types can live in peace and prosperity.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:04 pm

littleflower wrote:dirty little secret:

it takes very nasty people to deal with very nasty enemy people so we pure and noble types can live in peace and prosperity.

Second dirty little secret:

There's a sucker born every day......... And they start Voting at 18.........

Thecatman · Post by **Thecatman** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:57 pm

I'm still waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to prove his citizenship.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:44 pm

Thecatman wrote:I'm still waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to prove his citizenship.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:44 pm

wedeliver wrote:
Thecatman wrote:I'm still waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to prove his citizenship.

Why does the month appear with lowercase letters when the rest was typed in caps?

Why did the clerk switch to lowercase just for the month of birth and filing date?

thirt33n · Post by **thirt33n** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:58 pm

....great. let's bitch about it for another four years.

...go clean your room or do your dishes or mow your lawn or become president and keep all of your promises.

name one president who's kept all his promises.

wake up outta your dreamland.
Reality falls between A and Z. You should know that....and even those with partial military/intel clearance only know a fraction of the truth.

plant some flowers, quit playin armchair quarteback.
...maybe now i'll stop being a raging sunday night wine buzzed jerk!

love to all
Crux

cullen · Post by **cullen** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:23 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:People that voted for Obama because you wanted the Iraq conflict to end need to send some letters or email need to speak out why another Three Years.

He said 16 Months. Now its twice that much!

He will lose support at least mine if he extends it more his pledge of 16 months

sent your email to [email protected]

AIIZ

lol your blaming him for something he has no control over yet?

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:24 pm

Toolmaker wrote:
wedeliver wrote:
Thecatman wrote:I'm still waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to prove his citizenship.

Why does the month appear with lowercase letters when the rest was typed in caps?

Why did the clerk switch to lowercase just for the month of birth and filing date?

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of Hawaii's Department of Health, released a statement saying she has verified that the state has the original birth certificate on record? She said separately that the certification looks identical to one she was issued for her own Hawaii birth certificate?

Wow Toolmaker, I never would have noticed that. You must be right. Why would someone commit a fraud to be elected president of the United States but fuck up the date.

Did you look at your birth certificate?

OMG. I just looked at my and my wifes passports and they both must be phonies. top line is last name, all caps, next line first and middle all caps, 3rd line UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (just like that)
4th line date of birth.. THE MONTH NOT ALL CAPS, JUST THE FIRST LETTER
5the line. cap letter for sex (M or F)
6th line, Date of Issue, THE MONTH NOT ALL CAPS, JUST THE FIRST LETTER
7th line, Date of expiration, THE MONTH NOT ALL CAPS, JUST THE FIRST LETTER
8TH Line says "See Page 24" under Admendments.

The birth certificate we are looking at is an offical document that could be used for lots of legal purposes, but it is not the final birth certificate. There should be a "long form" birth certificate that has all the birth info, weight, condition at birth, etc

Post by **Elderberry** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:40 pm

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

JK

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:59 am

jkisha wrote:http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

JK

Was just tryin to keep an old tin foil hat afloat.

wedeliver: I looked at mine.. handwritten since I was born in the 70s. I haven't had to get a "reprint" or whatever they're called since my parents were pretty serious about the whole thing. I still have a lock of my first hair somewhere too.

But can someone explain this..

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:30 am

Toolmaker wrote:
jkisha wrote:http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

JK

Was just tryin to keep an old tin foil hat afloat.

wedeliver: I looked at mine.. handwritten since I was born in the 70s. I haven't had to get a "reprint" or whatever they're called since my parents were pretty serious about the whole thing. I still have a lock of my first hair somewhere too.

But can someone explain this..

Hell thats easy. His heart is just a bit lower then ours....
He is the ONE, did you expect him be be like us mere mortals?

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:02 pm

Anyone who actually wants to be President is the absolute last person who should be allowed to be President!

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:03 am

I support Obama, but may I be the first to say "Impeach the douchebag!"? Just for the fun of it.

Artemis · Post by **Artemis** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:07 am

Toolmaker wrote:
Why does the month appear with lowercase letters when the rest was typed in caps?

Why did the clerk switch to lowercase just for the month of birth and filing date?

Oh crap. My birth certificate has an "F" as sex, but you can see that there used to be a "M" that they whited out and then typed an "F" over.... Does this mean that I'm a transgender member of al-qaeda? Or could it just be that the birth certificate is subject to the error of an typist who may have caps lock on or not, who may have typed an M when an F was meant...?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:10 pm

I can make out a faint, "Toys Are Us" in the lower middle of the page

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:37 am

Artemis wrote:
Toolmaker wrote:
Why does the month appear with lowercase letters when the rest was typed in caps?

Why did the clerk switch to lowercase just for the month of birth and filing date?
Oh crap. My birth certificate has an "F" as sex, but you can see that there used to be a "M" that they whited out and then typed an "F" over.... Does this mean that I'm a transgender member of al-qaeda? Or could it just be that the birth certificate is subject to the error of an typist who may have caps lock on or not, who may have typed an M when an F was meant...?

http://etransgender.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=317

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:08 am

gyre wrote:
Artemis wrote:
Toolmaker wrote:
Why does the month appear with lowercase letters when the rest was typed in caps?

Why did the clerk switch to lowercase just for the month of birth and filing date?
Oh crap. My birth certificate has an "F" as sex, but you can see that there used to be a "M" that they whited out and then typed an "F" over.... Does this mean that I'm a transgender member of al-qaeda? Or could it just be that the birth certificate is subject to the error of an typist who may have caps lock on or not, who may have typed an M when an F was meant...?
http://etransgender.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=317

I really have a problem with the whole 'transgender' thing. I can understand a person being gay. And I can also understand someone wanting to have an actual 'genetic' mixup corrected. But I just can't wrap my mind around something like a man that has a sex change to a women and then becomes a lesbian. Or to understand why a man would have a sex change to a women and then continue to only frequent gay bars.

Oh well, takes all kinds to make the world go round I guess.

JK

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:42 am

jkisha wrote: Or to understand why a man would have a sex change to a women and then continue to only frequent gay bars.

JK

Someone who loves to be rejected

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