an american animal on the hunt

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:54 pm

Funny...I always thought he was on the levelheaded side, compared to most artists in the field.

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:16 am

So you are saying that Ted Nugent is Simon's guitar-playing Sock Puppet?

Or is he Gyre's puppet?

I bet aliens are behind it.

Gyre and Ted Nugent are controlling Simon and UniversityOfPhoenix through the long arm of the Bavarian Illuminati!

We're Doomed. (Yeah, wrong thread. Bite me.)

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:01 pm

Any one remember when Brian tries to be a talk radio host on family guy?

These posts remind me of how he evolves through that show, (did you notice I used the burning man theme in that sentence? Gold star to me).

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:37 pm

Ok AAA...its time to get out of the kiddy wadding pool, and jump in the big pool with all the big people!

come on....
the waters....well.....stirring.

lovefish · Post by **lovefish** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:10 pm

idno if this american person is
BM material, my guess is he keeps up this intellectual biz till he goes home and realizes its not about love and hugs as much as it is a big ass party, with an extra scoop of art. and the playa will blast dust in his face to show him whatsup and he shall learn what the playa has to teach then. and will no doubt be humbled

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:38 pm

lol, wholly hell that is funny. You do understand saying it is one big party doesn't elevate you out of drugs and hugs, what the fuck else is a party any way other than some variation of a hug even if its a fuck hug (like a mouth, vagina, or anus rapped around a penis:). What be with this intellectual biz any way, not trying to be its just what I love.

Here is one of my favorite groupings of questions and will be a bit more of all youalls style.

Why do you love? How do you love? And why do you love how you love?

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:39 pm

lovefish wrote:... its not about love and hugs as much as it is a big ass party

You say these things like they're mutually exclusive. Obviously you've been missing out on Doc Pyro's (Barbie Death Camp) Meat & Greet. I'll tell you what, I've never been pawed like that before, and that was just Doc! {Bada-BOOM!}

Thank you and goodnight!

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:52 pm

Step away from the poetry books! Get yourself some propane tanks and start experimenting with fire cannon designs. Learn how to weld and make yourself a radical bike.
Burning Man has "burning" right in the name. Nowhere is there mention of philosophers.

If you insist in finding inner enlightenment and peace, may I suggest you set up camp either with or as close to Gigsville as possible.

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:14 am

Not trying to find inner enlightenment at all, donâ€™t think it is something you find but something you seek till your soul dies and your body keeps being its dead self. Iâ€™m going to burning man for the questions I posted above, (Why do you love? How do you love? And why do you love how you love?). Much more importantly to me Iâ€™m going to be one step further in trying to figure out how to get people to embrace the pain (ooo, and the art). I also heard there were boobies; little kid in candy store perhaps? I think so.

Burning mans consistent message through out its own website and from what I have talked about with people who have gone is "radical self expression" and apparently all things â€œradicalâ€

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:30 am

The Root Society would like to officially acknowledge that this Person is NOT part of our camp and has nothing to do with our particular brand of Thumpy Thumpy and never will.

Justin Hendrick, stay away from our dome, or else.

just ask Thirt33n what happens to asshats while i'm on duty.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:19 am

Our Lawyers, Dewey, Skreuhem, and Howe have been contacted and your unauthorized use of the word "ROOT" and or "SOCIETY" is punishable by punishment.

Boy are you screwed, and How!

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:46 am

AnAmericanAnimal wrote:"university of Phoenix, you perk my interest a tad because it seems like you actually mite (sp) have something to say...

Anyhoo, I just did a google search on 'pseudo intellectual' and I found a nifty li'l guide on how to become one. Guess what step fuckin' one was?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2000106_become- ... ctual.html

Well done, Grasshopper!"

To this mother fucker. I'm not trying to be intellectual I find the mans writing amazing and am thus sharing him with you all as a nugget of gold in what appears to be a massive amount of shit on the mental side of your lives (some of you not included).
Would you like me to talk about Plato, possibly Some John Mill, Epicteus, Foucault, Hegel, or Kant (hey most of those are old and are quite orthodox actually, hmmm)? I'm a fan of Max Weber at the moment he is also an amazing writer. Point is I have read all of these names I threw out there more than once and have an extensive amount of notes on them because I truly and deeply care about what they have to say, because it is my passion it is what I will be doing for the rest of my life. It's an infinite process, something I know I will never fully grasp, nor the generation after me and the one after that, till our lovely little species burns up and dies.

O another fun thing is that once again almost none of you actually respond to anything, do nothing but bitch, yet have nothing to say and still more of you post on here than any where else. So I got what I wanted which was a responses, but like I said earlier would be nice if some of them would be reflective and not just reactionary:).
Have a lovely day bitches and you know who you are.

p.s. don't really like existentialism all that much though they make some good platform points to jump off of.

Dude! (or Dudette) You need to chill out here, your getting way to existentialistic on us. Eplaya is all about having fun, passing the time till the next burn. Now go take 2 snarky pills and call me in the morning

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:13 am

Blah Blah Blah !! AmAn is boring... Lets talk about " stuffing "..it is THAT time of year.. I like cornbread with apples.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:25 am

actually ... i like this post, AAA ... even if it is a little lacking in the snark department ...

i also look for the motherfucking root (not sure what "motherfucking has to do with it, heee)

but my problem with your other posts is that you seem to be everywhere but the root ... simultaneously arguing for and against the existence of human cognition (humans are just animals / humans don't perceive things as animals do) without saying anything about the origin or how or why it came about ...

OH! one other thing ... a professor friend once told me that if you can't express an idea, you don't have one to start with ... it's worth the work...!

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:27 am

Boijoy wrote:Blah Blah Blah !! AmAn is boring... Lets talk about " stuffing "..it is THAT time of year.. I like cornbread with apples.

!!! my mother still makes my SF-native-grandmother's old recipe with sourdough croutons ... except that she has to make her own, these days..

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:31 am

Boijoy wrote:Blah Blah Blah !! AmAn is boring... Lets talk about " stuffing "..it is THAT time of year.. I like cornbread with apples. :o

Everybody who's seen THis is Spinal Tap knows the only proper stuffing is tin foil around a cucumber.

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:55 am

way to make it dirty Fishy. That's why we like having you around.

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:08 pm

It must just be me, but I don't get this thread at all. Except for Sensei's ensightful comments. Come over here big fella!

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:56 pm

Dr. Pyro wrote:It must just be me, but I don't get this thread at all. Except for Sensei's ensightful comments. Come over here big fella!

Don't feel bad, I am also confused.

I think ppl are having fun with sock puppets again best as I can tell.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:23 pm

yea, I gave up a couple of pages ago......... but the thread keeps poppin up.......

bigbluedoggy · Post by **bigbluedoggy** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:38 pm

*tap tap* Is this STILL on?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:26 pm

Come on, Doc, a man of your intelligence, experience and congeniality knows about Thread Drift as an art form.

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:22 pm

"you seem to be everywhere but the root (. . .) simultaneously arguing for and against the existence of human cognition (humans are just animals / humans don't perceive things as animals do) without saying anything about the origin or how or why it came about"
-littleflower

First off that would just take an immensely long time. The short and skinny is that the two ideas you threw up there are not contradictory. Our style of cognition is birthed out of being animals(sensory beings) which does not separate us from being animals just because we reflect differently, that would be like saying we are not animals because we have nifty thumbs, we are just a whole new breed of animal so to speak. As for the root we know at some point peoples minds projected themselves out into a world which allowed for reflection and not just reaction though reflection doesn't always mean you're not just reacting. I have a theory that this process as we know it came into full swing when we started mapping things based on the stars, sun, and moon. About 250,000 years+ ago(sketchy on that number, don't quote me on it) we started mapping the movements of game animals based on the movement of the moon.

The goal to me is to be more and more creative versus reactive when expressing yourself which is an infinite process, something you never fully succeed at and I'm cool with that. Just let me know exactly how you want me to track that back to a root so that I don't end up rambling because this is a really big idea and is going to take time to consolidate, which if you can't tell, in a none academic setting, I have trouble doing. It is hard to make that kind of commitment for eplaya, Im much more apt to do it for some ones specific questions.

What it really boils down to for me is that we are an expressive chemical reaction. That the separation of biology from chemistry is none sensical, and that biology should be considered a sub group of chemistry and physics. That is why I loved that the theme was evolution because to me evolution starts at the big bang(earlier if you like) and continues with the words coming out of your mouth. That art and language are both life not just expressions of life.

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:34 pm

Something you all may find fun is that when you move between mediums of art, for instance if you take a graphic novel and make it into a movie, to think of it as translating that life, taking that graphic expression and translating it into cinematic expression. This is why I love when one of Alan Moore's works are turned into a movie he has his name removed from the movie so that people don't think that it's a movie of his work of art but a movie based on ideas out of his works and using the same characters to express those ideas. They are not expressing his ideas or work but their own. In other words they are not translating his novel into cinema but constructing a new peace of art based on ideas out of his novel using those same characters. I feel if more artists of all mediums started thinking about art in this way (not always) they could start to effectively use art for political purposes and be a counter pole to the state, becoming a cultural force that can create concrete movement instead of creating scattered expression. What is beautiful is that this style of art would allow also for more purely expressive art and thus you can have your cake and eat it to.

This is making me think it is time to start reading a large amount of art history (include in that theatrical history), while keeping a finger on the pulse of what is "pop" and start developing this idea. I leave music to others, sadly it just doesn't really do it for me, it is more like a beautiful flower than art for me at this point (doesn't mean I don't like it, I do). I need a little rapture in my musical life.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:39 pm

Can you define reflective? Or reflection?

I think the biggest problem people have in general is denying that the thoughtful part of them is always defined by the physical, pre-determined part of themselves.
And this includes what they may find beautiful or entertaining or mystical.
Even if that changes with time, it will be shaped by the physical animal.

Know thyself.
Most people don't.

And it sounds so easy.

Also, I think car keys are what separate us from monkeys.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:04 pm

AnAmericanAnimal wrote:Something you all may find fun is that when you move between mediums of art, for instance if you take a graphic novel and make it into a movie, to think of it as translating that life, taking that graphic expression and translating it into cinematic expression ... They are not expressing his ideas or work but their own ... I feel if more artists of all mediums started thinking about art in this way (not always) they could start to effectively use art for political purposes and be a counter pole to the state, becoming a cultural force that can create concrete movement instead of creating scattered expression.

now i know for sure that you are a sock puppet ...

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:21 pm

To look back on, think of it exactly like any wave. If your life was a wave(light) you are reflecting it back on yourself. To what extent we can do this I'm not sure and probably will never get to fully know. I wont grant us a super clear reflection, I think it is always distorted in some way, always in some way incomplete. I feel that is what it is to be an honest human being, to be perpetually incomplete but to feel fulfilled in always filling but never being full. (If you want more just ask, it's a good thing to think about because I find that definition incomplete)

"I think the biggest problem people have in general is denying that the thoughtful part of them is always defined by the physical, pre-determined part of themselves." -gyre

I would agree with that, that is why my sn is AnAmericanAnimal, that all that I am no matter how hard I try is in many ways defined by the fact that I am an American Animal, that that context, habitat if you will, in many ways determines what I reflect upon, what i am inclined to touch and that no matter how hard I push myself(in any direction) I am never escaping that trajectory but can continuously add more and more to it, and create more and more true and beautiful meaning out of it.

I think of it in this way. For so long now we have attempted vertical thought an attempt to somehow escape this life for something grander through our reflection (religion also in many ways does this). To me it is expansive thought that should replace vertical. That as you reflect and test yourself you are adding infinite depth to your experiences and your life and that the more you push yourself the more of the universe you pull on and bring with you every time you express yourself. That the more defined the context the more intricate the meaning gets and this allows you to truly give your expression more depth. this is why I believe it is so important that people push themselves to be able to embrace pain so as to be able to experience it as life, as legitimate, and not as a negative (no, not in a masochistic way because that is still pleasure) because this allows for that expansion in a way that pleasure can not do on its own, not even close.

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:31 pm

What is this sock puppet business?

I accept, I am a sock puppet of the universe. A super nova every time I move my cotton jaws and reveal my silky red mouth. Bending to the will of the infinite and dancing with the life inside me; my voice not my own but that of the stars.

Do I get those crazy plastic eyes with the floating black pupils that roll around inside their casing? Because that would rock.

Seriously though, the pupped business?

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:47 pm

AnAmericanAnimal wrote:What is this sock puppet business?

I accept, I am a sock puppet of the universe. A super nova every time I move my cotton jaws and reveal my silky red mouth. Bending to the will of the infinite and dancing with the life inside me; my voice not my own but that of the stars.

Do I get those crazy plastic eyes with the floating black pupils that roll around inside their casing? Because that would rock.

Seriously though, the pupped business?

His acid just kicked in.

AnAmericanAnimal · Post by **AnAmericanAnimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:01 pm

it never stopped