Really old pot stash recovered

[wedeliver]

Really old pot stash found.

The Yanghai Tombs near Turpan, Xinjiang-Uighur Autonomous Region, China have recently been excavated to reveal the 2700-year-old grave of a Caucasoid shaman whose accoutrements included a large cache of cannabis, superbly preserved by climatic and burial conditions. A multidisciplinary international team demonstrated through botanical examination, phytochemical investigation, and genetic deoxyribonucleic acid analysis by polymerase chain reaction that this material contained tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive component of cannabis, its oxidative degradation product, cannabinol, other metabolites, and its synthetic enzyme, tetrahydrocannabinolic acid synthase, as well as a novel genetic variant with two single nucleotide polymorphisms. The cannabis was presumably employed by this culture as a medicinal or psychoactive agent, or an aid to divination. To our knowledge, these investigations provide the oldest documentation of cannabis as a pharmacologically active agent, and contribute to the medical and archaeological record of this pre-Silk Road culture.

What the above says is they found 28 ounces of high grade green bud buried with a guy Two thousand Seven Hundred Years Ago. (A blond haired person in China, go figure)

this is a pic of a actual bud from this stash. I don't know how long the link will be good but I should copy and put up somewhere else



http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 59/15/4171

[ygmir]

there are many instances of "blond, or ,red" headed peoples in ancient times, turning up in un-thought of areas......
I was involved in the Kennewick Man controversy...........
Native legends even speak of the light haired and skinned ones........in north america, 10K or more years ago.........

kind of makes a person wonder who was where, when, and, who's "native" to where..........and, what does "native" mean........

good info, thanks WD......

[lonestoner916]

I'd like to smoke some of that...

[Toolmaker]

wow

[wedeliver]

Here is the find edited.

One tomb contained the skeletal remains of a male of high social status of an estimated age of 45 years, whose accoutrements included bridles, archery equipment, a kongou harp, and other materials supporting his identity as a shaman His burial as a disarticulated skeleton, as opposed to a mummified body as more frequently was found suggested that he probably died in the highlands of the Tin Shn (‘Heavenly Mountains,’ or Tängri Tagh in Uighur) and his bones were later interred at Yanghai, as nearby tombs contained large timbers of Picea (spruce) spp. that grow at 3000 m elevation. Modern Uighur pastoralists follow a similar annual migratory path to summer grazing lands some 60–80 km distant from the tombs. Near the head and foot of the shaman's bier lay a large leather basket and wooden bowl filled with 789 g of vegetative matter, initially thought to be Coriandrum sativum L. (coriander), but which, after meticulous botanical examination, proved to be Cannabis sativa L. An initial radiocarbon date of 2500 years BP has subsequently been corrected to a calibrated figure of 2700 years BP based on additional analyses of equestrian gear and correlation to tree ring data (dendrochronology) in China. While an earlier publication emphasized morphological features in identifying the cannabis, the current study used additional botanical, phytochemical, and genetic investigations to demonstrate that this cannabis was psychoactive and probably cultivated for medicinal or divinatory purposes. Great care was taken to prevent contamination of the sample throughout the analyses.

Here is a pic of a seed found, so this female plant went to seed, with all that sticky sweetness all over.... hummm, to get a clone from here..



http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 59/15/4171

[Zulegoona]

I thought cannabis was suppose to be native to the Americas, that’s why there was so much surprise when the resin turned up in an Egyptian mummy. As I recall ancient trance Atlantic trade was suggested .

[ygmir]

I thought cannabis was suppose to be native to the Americas, that’s why there was so much surprise when the resin turned up in an Egyptian mummy. As I recall ancient trance Atlantic trade was suggested .

one would think anything possible considering "trance" Atlantic trade.......

[Zulegoona]

He was a shaman after all











spell check falls short for the dyslexic guy again

[wedeliver]

Pot comes from Asia according to the Wiki. Any native US pot wasn't worth smoking. Better to make sails and rope for your ship.

Cannabis (Cán-na-bis) is a genus of flowering plants that includes three putative species, Cannabis sativa subsp. indica L.,[1] Cannabis sativa subsp. sativa Lam.,[1] and Cannabis ruderalis Janisch. These three taxa are indigenous to central Asia and surrounding regions.

In the U.S. wild cannabis can grow wild in mid-west areas such as Kansas and Nebraska. This type is not valued for recreational use and is viewed as a weed by farmers. Wild C. sativa subsp. sativa shows great local variation; for example, in warm places, it can reach heights up to 20 feet (6 m) tall

How did it get to America? perhaps..

China is known principally for its tea and opium, the great number of its people, and the huge amount of Chinese restaurants, also hemp originates from China. The Chinese were already cultivating cannabis 4500 years BC. They were able to spin yarn for clothing, and make fishing nets and rope with it. The first medicinal applications were described two thousand years later. It was used for rheumatism, gout, malaria, and a number of other disorders.
From China, hemp travelled to Arabia, and appeared in the writings of the Greek philosopher Herodote. He describes ritual use of burning hemp by the Syrian Skytes. Hemp grows everywhere. It came to Europe via India and the Roman Empire. In the Middle Ages, hemp's intoxicating effect was described by Boccaccio and Rabelais, among others. Later, it was used by Victor Hugo, Honoré de Balzac, and Alexandre Dumas in the Latin Quarter in Paris. Scholars do not agree as to whether the Spaniards were the original importers of cannabis to America. It is certainly true that Colombus' ships were outfitted with hemp rope, and sails made from hemp cloth. The plant spread quickly in America, and at the beginning of the seventeenth century, large-scale hemp plantations proceeded in order to supply the needs of the ship - and clothing industries

[The CO]

I KNEW my dad was holding!

[goathead]

Really old pot stash found.


What the above says is they found 28 ounces of high grade green bud buried with a guy Two thousand Seven Hundred Years Ago. (A blond haired person in China, go figure)

this is a pic of a actual bud from this stash. I don't know how long the link will be good but I should copy and put up somewhere else



http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 59/15/4171

Fucking hippies will go anywhere for good bud...

[Simon of the Playa]

ok, the big question is does anyone have a really really REALLY old Bong?

[Sail Man]

Hmmm, I wonder if it smell's as good as the Pakalolo we used to "ahem" smell when I was stationed in Cali. Not that we actually inhaled, no sir. Purely for medicinal purposes, and to study the ways of the ancient ones

[Ugly Dougly]

It was for medicinal purposes only! Damn feds.

[xenarchi]

sadly all I have is an empty bong.

[xenarchi]

[Sail Man]

Hey Lonestoner, can you fill this?

[klondike_bar]

mmm....ancient genetics. me wanna grow that....

[madmatt]

there are many instances of "blond, or ,red" headed peoples in ancient times, turning up in un-thought of areas......
I was involved in the Kennewick Man controversy...........
Native legends even speak of the light haired and skinned ones........in north america, 10K or more years ago.........

kind of makes a person wonder who was where, when, and, who's "native" to where..........and, what does "native" mean........

good info, thanks WD......

Hey YGMIR - sounds like you're a believer in Ramtha! Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[madmatt]

A multidisciplinary international team demonstrated through botanical examination, phytochemical investigation, and genetic deoxyribonucleic acid analysis by polymerase chain reaction that this material contained tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive component of cannabis

Bwahahahaha!!! That means that they smoked it! Sweet.
.

[ygmir]

there are many instances of "blond, or ,red" headed peoples in ancient times, turning up in un-thought of areas......
I was involved in the Kennewick Man controversy...........
Native legends even speak of the light haired and skinned ones........in north america, 10K or more years ago.........

kind of makes a person wonder who was where, when, and, who's "native" to where..........and, what does "native" mean........

good info, thanks WD......

Hey YGMIR - sounds like you're a believer in Ramtha! Not that there's anything wrong with that.

nope......don't know no Ramtha........

do you even know what I'm referring to, above?

[madmatt]

there are many instances of "blond, or ,red" headed peoples in ancient times, turning up in un-thought of areas......
I was involved in the Kennewick Man controversy...........
Native legends even speak of the light haired and skinned ones........in north america, 10K or more years ago.........


- Hey YGMIR - sounds like you're a believer in Ramtha! Not that there's anything wrong with that.

do you even know what I'm referring to, above?

No, but the wikipedia entry is really very interesting. How were you involved?

Kennewick Man is the name for the skeletal remains of a prehistoric man found on a bank of the Columbia River near Kennewick, Washington, USA on July 28, 1996. The discovery of Kennewick Man was accidental: a pair of spectators (Will Thomas and David Deacy) found his skull while attending the annual hydroplane races.

The remains became embroiled in debates about the relationship between Native American religious rights, archaeology and other interested stakeholders. Based on the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA), five Native American groups (the Nez Perce, Umatilla, Yakama, Wannapum, and Colville) claimed the remains as theirs, to be buried by traditional means. Only Umatillas continued further court proceeding. In February 2004, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that a cultural link between the tribes and the skeleton was not met, allowing scientific study of the remains to continue.

In July 2005, a team of scientists from around the United States convened in Seattle for ten days to study the remains, making many detailed measurements and determining the cause of death.

He looks just like Captain Picard!

[ygmir]

there are many instances of "blond, or ,red" headed peoples in ancient times, turning up in un-thought of areas......
I was involved in the Kennewick Man controversy...........
Native legends even speak of the light haired and skinned ones........in north america, 10K or more years ago.........


- Hey YGMIR - sounds like you're a believer in Ramtha! Not that there's anything wrong with that.

do you even know what I'm referring to, above?

No, but the wikipedia entry is really very interesting. How were you involved?

Kennewick Man is the name for the skeletal remains of a prehistoric man found on a bank of the Columbia River near Kennewick, Washington, USA on July 28, 1996. The discovery of Kennewick Man was accidental: a pair of spectators (Will Thomas and David Deacy) found his skull while attending the annual hydroplane races.

The remains became embroiled in debates about the relationship between Native American religious rights, archaeology and other interested stakeholders. Based on the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA), five Native American groups (the Nez Perce, Umatilla, Yakama, Wannapum, and Colville) claimed the remains as theirs, to be buried by traditional means. Only Umatillas continued further court proceeding. In February 2004, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that a cultural link between the tribes and the skeleton was not met, allowing scientific study of the remains to continue.

In July 2005, a team of scientists from around the United States convened in Seattle for ten days to study the remains, making many detailed measurements and determining the cause of death.

He looks just like Captain Picard!

our group was allowed limited access to the remains, scientists and location of the find. We also performed a Nordic/northern European ceremony, at the discovery site, and, at Battelle labs, on the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, where they were initially ensconced, in what we believe was his native spirituality, or, a semblance thereof....we met in limited fashion with the tribal leaders for the yumatilla, et al.........
very interesting, indeed.

and, as usual, it was politics and politicians that screwed everything up.............

[Ugly Dougly]

Gee, not religion?

The scientific consensus is that he was from a wave of Siberian emigrants preceding the "Mongolid" invasion that fathered most of the current American Indians. His kin survived among the Ainu, Malay and Australian Aborigines.

He probably wouldn't understand Norse or appreciate the Asatruar ceremony. But that gave Asatru cheap publicity.

[ygmir]

Gee, not religion?

The scientific consensus is that he was from a wave of Siberian emigrants preceding the "Mongolid" invasion that fathered most of the current American Indians. His kin survived among the Ainu, Malay and Australian Aborigines.

He probably wouldn't understand Norse or appreciate the Asatruar ceremony. But that gave Asatru cheap publicity.

yup religion is the reason for the conflict.......
Indo-European skull. and, so are related also to the above Ainu, not so sure about aborigines.....maybe though.......

nope, probably not understand Norse........or the ceremony, but,, it's part of his heritage, moreso than the tribes in the area....seemed only fair to offer it for him.......

What's wrong with publicity?.......