Other Elemental Ceremonies

jackmaker · Post by **jackmaker** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:19 pm

I have this idea of holding ceremonies based on the classical elements of alchemy, each at different specific locations around the world. The idea partly came to me in a dream. I'm trying to drum-up a film crew and anyone else mad enough to make the trek. I thought it was [i]supposed[/i] to happen this year, but it looks like it'll be next year instead. Read about what I have come up with so far here:

http://alterman47.wordpress.com/

Thanks!

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:36 am

from the website...

[quote]â€œWhat you are about to read is the groundwork for an evolution in broadcast and feature info-tainment. Alter Man is the working title for a visionary media project so original and evocative it can be described as The Amazing Race meets Nova and Myth Busters. In fact, an apt subtitle for the â€œRealityâ€

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:36 pm

How much is it going to cost to get in to Alter-Man?

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:00 pm

Wow. Simon, thanks for being the one to actually jump over to that guy's blog. The bit you have quoted is just the tip of the iceberg. That is some fascinating stuff.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:19 pm

Toolmaker wrote:How much is it going to cost to get in to Alter-Man?

just don't apply as "alter-boy"...........

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:49 pm

it's a new age train wreck....

i had to look.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:11 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:it's a new age train wreck....

I'm holding out for a steampunk train wreck.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:46 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:it's a new age train wreck....
I'm holding out for a steampunk train wreck.

What! And make FC cry?!

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:56 am

Someone ran two locomotives together at full speed for a show once.
Makes burning man look like remedial eccentricity.
Very lively.

Post by **mdmf007** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:15 pm

Sounds like Kamas a bitch,

Gyre - BM is like locomotives colliding every evening!!!!!!!!!!!!!
During the day Bm looks like a refugee camp -

at night - it comes alive.

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:28 pm

I have seen that train head-on footage and it is pretty awesome. Those things were not designed to be destroyed, so the results seem quite different.

From the quote Simon pulled over it almost sounded like a real project. Get over there and start reading to see the true delusion.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:46 pm

I am talking about a live show with spectators.
I don't think there is any film but there are photos after the fact.
I think most photographers were killed and their cameras destroyed.
They misjudged the way the engines would behave and wildly underestimated the power involved.
Many people were killed, from 150 to hundreds.
No one knows how many injuries.

Hard to top.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:03 pm

[youtube][/youtube]

Thematic.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:44 am

Stay true to your vision and go for it!
Why run it by us until its ready?

fciron · Post by **fciron** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:15 pm

Gyre, OK, I've seen pics then.

They were way more scary than Fishy's nifty video. (She clearly has better search skills than me.)

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:42 pm

fciron wrote:Gyre, OK, I've seen pics then.

They were way more scary than Fishy's nifty video. (She clearly has better search skills than me.)

Actually, I keep a family of gnomes chained int he basement searching for me and going through youtube videos for maximum hilarity.

That's not actually very funny when you consider the news. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 14INTI.DTL I suppose I"m letting out tension and horror by going there.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:52 pm

fciron wrote:Gyre, OK, I've seen pics then.

They were way more scary than Fishy's nifty video. (She clearly has better search skills than me.)

I have some pictures on video but I can't find any online.
They expected the locomotives to telescope, but they were too strong for that.
They must have had equivalent power when they collided at full speed.
They went up in the air and exploded.
I would not be surprised if they locked all the safety valves and opened everything up ahead of time.
Pieces of the boilers were found some distance from the main site.
The barely distinguishable frames were the only thing left of the steam locomotives.
So the tradition of radical forms of entertainment is not new.

I found the docko on history or science channel on a show about trains.

jackmaker · Post by **jackmaker** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:51 pm

Sheesh. Almost more depressed than ever. Can anyone stay on-topic in these forums?? And this Simon is Klearly an authority... Thanks for reading Fciron!!

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:13 pm

What is the topic?

jackmaker · Post by **jackmaker** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:12 pm

the topic is BOATS, not TRAINS. The topic was and is Other Elemental Ceremoniies. My patience wains...

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:18 pm

"Let's go Swimming!"

ba-dum dum.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:03 pm

Boats are neat.

Barbie · Post by **Barbie** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:32 pm

I bet we could get Paris to drink the Kool-Aid

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:09 am

[youtube][/youtube]

jackmaker · Post by **jackmaker** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:56 pm

Ugly Dougly, I'm running AM47 by anyone who will bother to read it. I'm sick and I'm broke and of the handful of people who beleived in me, one has died suddenly and another had a breakdown. So I'm basically floating out here alone offering strangers a chance to get in on something that might just be really special... a fabulous disaster even. But all I find are cynical quips and misunderstanding. I don't particularly like people to begin with and I've lost the friends I had hoped would help me with public relations. All I'm asking is for folks to have a look and if you don't like it, fine, maybe you know someone or will come across someone who might be able to help me. And I thought that since Burning Man is intrinsic to my idea, someone hear might enjoy reading it. Isn't this what networking is all about??

zabsinth · Post by **zabsinth** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:20 pm

jackmaker wrote:Ugly Dougly, I'm running AM47 by anyone who will bother to read it. I'm sick and I'm broke and of the handful of people who beleived in me, one has died suddenly and another had a breakdown. So I'm basically floating out here alone offering strangers a chance to get in on something that might just be really special... a fabulous disaster even. But all I find are cynical quips and misunderstanding. I don't particularly like people to begin with and I've lost the friends I had hoped would help me with public relations. All I'm asking is for folks to have a look and if you don't like it, fine, maybe you know someone or will come across someone who might be able to help me. And I thought that since Burning Man is intrinsic to my idea, someone hear might enjoy reading it. Isn't this what networking is all about??

Yes, this is definitely an appropriate place to share your idea.

But as far as help is concerned,

Radical Self-reliance
Burning Man encourages the individual to discover, exercise and rely on his or her inner resources.

Post by **Elderberry** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:31 pm

Maybe taking an interest in us before you expect us to take an interest in you would be a better first step. It's amazing how many people just 'expect' perfect strangers, and on the Internet no less, to be totally sympathetic and interested in their plights and projects.

Not to mention, most on this forum have disparate interests held together by a common bond cemented by playa dust. Part of that 'bonding' process is being able to take some ribbing and dish it back, not wine and give lectures because nobody here is immediately sympathetic to your needs, we all have needs of our own.

People are always more interested in helping friends, eplaya is no exception. Take some time and make some friends.

JK

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:17 pm

Nice gratuitous Carmina Burana, there, Simon.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:43 pm

mea culpa.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:55 pm

as The Amazing Race meets Nova and Myth Busters.

I love dockos, but you lost me with the amazing race reference.
Nothing horrifies me more than those fantasy soap operas billed as "reality" shows.
Is the amazing race even a race?
I know it isn't amazing, although I am amazed anyone watches it.
The whole 'It doesn't have to be good, just cheap to make.' syndrome is very disturbing.

And you haven't told us enough for me to have any idea what you mean by alchemy.
If you're going to refine urine into phosphorus and burn things, I get that.
Alchemy covers a lot of ground.
Galen was practicing neurosurgery and then it seems like people quit trying.

So are we talking about rituals or when alchemy and science were part of the same thing?
And most importantly, are you going to be setting fire to something?

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