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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:04 pm

Wind Farm Off Cape Cod Clears Hurdle

By ABBY GOODNOUGH
Published: January 16, 2009
BOSTON — A federal agency said Friday that the nation’s first offshore wind farm, proposed for the waters off Cape Cod, posed no serious environmental threat, bringing it a major step closer to fruition.
Green Inc.: Layoffs in the Wind Industry (January 16, 2009) Homeowners and boaters on the Cape, including Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, have fought the project for eight years, saying it would hurt wildlife, fishing and tourism and spoil the beauty of Nantucket Sound.

Opponents have sued to stop the project, known as Cape Wind, and more challenges are certain, keeping the path to construction bumpy despite what supporters on Friday called a crucial victory.

The Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound, a group formed to fight the project, suggested that the Bush administration had unscrupulously rushed to approve it before President-elect Barack Obama took office next week.

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Post by littleflower » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:07 pm

dvd ... i do not dispute what you posted.

but you totally evaded my questions.

maybe you would make an excellent politician....

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:29 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Wind Farm Off Cape Cod Clears Hurdle

By ABBY GOODNOUGH
Published: January 16, 2009
BOSTON — A federal agency said Friday that the nation’s first offshore wind farm, proposed for the waters off Cape Cod, posed no serious environmental threat, bringing it a major step closer to fruition.
Green Inc.: Layoffs in the Wind Industry (January 16, 2009) Homeowners and boaters on the Cape, including Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, have fought the project for eight years, saying it would hurt wildlife, fishing and tourism and spoil the beauty of Nantucket Sound.
Not that it's all about me and quoting me, but studies have shown that the piers used will actually improve the fisheries. NJ is planning to install hundreds of turbines 16 miles off the coast instead of oil rigs. Kennedy is a hypocrite: supporting alternative projects elsewhere but not in my backyard!

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:31 pm

littleflower wrote:dvd ... i do not dispute what you posted.

but you totally evaded my questions.

maybe you would make an excellent politician....

Yes I did answer your question but lets do it this way. you have 2 questions, I shall answer them for you a little slower so you understand:
littleflower wrote:sooo, DVD, just to clarify - al jazeera is the only fair and unbiased source for information, is that correct? if they say something no one else says, you believe it unquestioningly?
No, I'm fortunate and sometimes get to watch the Gaza war in HD at a friends house. Hey, CNN and other American news agencies do not cover the Gaza war. Why, because journalists are kept from reporting there by Israel. That is a fact.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7834419.stm
I also read a lot. A whole lot. I also like to read what comes from the BBC, AP and Reuters. I also like to do lots of research. Mostly from what people like you post so that I have something to go on when comes time to disproving your claims.
Hope that answered your first question?
Lets go for the second question.
littleflower wrote:and please answer: is this conflict about who has the best weapons or not? i do not think anyone here doubts the horrors that occur when rockets are used, and i don't think anyone here supports using them, either. but your solutions are unworkable.
For most men with small peckers it is. (not kidding) It for some reasons makes them feel like big men. Now as far as my solutions go......what solutions of mine do you speak of?
I've already given my ultimate solution which gets no one killed.
If that doesn't work.......hey I guess we'll never know huh? No one seems to want to agree to it.

So now, as I said, what solution do you speak of that is to be mine?
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Post by littleflower » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:23 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Now as far as my solutions go......what solutions of mine do you speak of?
I've already given my ultimate solution which gets no one killed.
If that doesn't work.......hey I guess we'll never know huh? No one seems to want to agree to it.

So now, as I said, what solution do you speak of that is to be mine?
always colorful, aren't you.

your ultimate solution which gets no one killed, the one that is said to be yours .....

dismantle israel.

i do not think they will just pick up and leave.

as for the press not covering the war, i do not dispute that, either. but notice that no one is demanding such coverage? do you really think people do not know what's going on in gaza?

the fact is ... the world does not like hamas. not all palestinians are fighting, and i do believe there is a perception that peace may be possible if hamas is emasculated. this totally sucks for the palestinians. the whole situation sucks. but let's put a little blame on hamas, huh? they have sworn to fight for the destruction of israel ... as long as they hold that hard line, we will have war. and the fact that they hold that position against a much stronger enemy is suicide. meanwhile, only iran and hezbollah are willing to help them. it makes me sick ... but sometimes people choose their own fate.

as for the news, you are the one who reported that india had severed ties with israel, and clearly you didn't check that out with any other source before you posted it. we all have our sources, we all have some we believe more than others. i basically trust no one, and i'm big on cross-checking sources across idealistic divides.

this is where i struggle with conspiracy theories ... i often read something very compelling ... but when i go to look for any detail, or even something that hints at the info on a more mainstream website, i run into nothing... and this troubles me no end. it seems to me that any investigative reporter, or any number of them, would get together to report some of this stuff, if there was anything to report. how many people would have to be bought off or threatened to keep the real story ... a truly huge real story ... from the press?

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:41 pm

littleflower wrote:
your ultimate solution which gets no one killed, the one that is said to be yours .....

dismantle Israel.

i do not think they will just pick up and leave.
I have to take out more time to answer the rest because you have put many unnecessary complications where they should not be.

For example: Distorting the word dismantle, good thing you brought this up.

from here so you do NOT get even a little lost: http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... start=4320

I made sure to put my main point there because I knew it would get to this again.

This is what I mean by dismantle:


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To make the visual perspective kinda real for you.

Now to get very real for you let me answer this part: "
littleflower wrote:
i do not think they will just pick up and leave.
Well guess what? It's what is going to have to happen, after all, it's what happened to the Palestinians when Israel was created and didn't do the right thing/responsible thing when they had the many chances in the finst place even to this day. People are finally getting sick of the shit of "ISRAEL"
Israel is nothing but a huge fucking headache.
Making lots of money over there with weapons and all but......
Those folks are some crazy cluster fucks.
Over nothing most of the times.
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But let me get back to the rest of your thingie.

I'm just going to take my time tho.

Besides, that's enough for right now.


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Main Entry:
dis·man·tle Listen to the pronunciation of dismantle
Pronunciation:
\(ˌ)dis-ˈman-təl\
Function:
transitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
dis·man·tled; dis·man·tling Listen to the pronunciation of dismantling \-ˈmant-liŋ, -ˈman-təl-\
Etymology:
Middle French desmanteler, from des- dis- + mantel mantle
Date:
1579

1: to take to pieces ; also : to destroy the integrity or functioning of2: to strip of dress or covering : divest3: to strip of furniture and equipment
— dis·man·tle·ment Listen to the pronunciation of dismantlement \-ˈman-təl-mənt\ noun
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:34 pm

Jeezzzz, after reading and re-reading what you wrote.......

If you dont mind my asking, just how old are you?

You seem really young to be so complacent, detached and in the state of denial you are in.

You seem no older than 20 or so.

Older people that are Jewish seem to be a little more aware.

Or maybe it's where you grew up or something.

Not sure if it even makes sense posting to you.

How old are you and where are you from?

Maybe you really have no idea what's going on. what do I know.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:23 pm

Bomb attack targets German Embassy in Kabul

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36 minutes ago

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — A bomb attack has hit the German Embassy in Kabul and the embassy has caught fire after the explosion. At least four U.S. troops have been wounded.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene says several vehicles have been destroyed in the blast. Emergency vehicles raced to the embassy and firefighters are attempting to extinguish the flames.

Philipp Wendel, press officer for the German Embassy, says he cannot give any details. "Unfortunately we have a tight security situation right now. I can't give you any information."

The German Embassy sits across the street from a U.S. base in Kabul. U.S. spokesman Lt. Col. Chris Kubik says four U.S. service members have suffered shrapnel wounds from the blast.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:36 pm

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What the heck, He's leaving and this one is pretty damn funny.


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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:07 am

Israeli tank fire kills 2 at Gaza UN school


Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:33am GMT

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GAZA (Reuters) - Israeli tank fire killed two boys at a U.N.-run school in the northern Gaza Strip Saturday, not six people as previously reported, a U.N. official said.

An Israeli army spokesman said he was checking the report.

Adnan Abu Hasna, a spokesman for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), said two brothers had been killed and 14 people had been wounded, including the boys' mother, when Israeli tank fire hit a school run by UNRWA in the northern town of Beit Lahiya.

Palestinian medics had earlier put the death toll at six.

"Israel must be held accountable for what happened," Abu Hasna told Reuters.

About 45,000 Gazans fleeing battle zones are sheltering in U.N.-run schools in the enclave.

Hospital staff in Gaza said four Palestinians had died in other violence Saturday morning, including three killed by a tank shell that hit a residential area.

The military, which said it hit about 50 targets in the Gaza Strip overnight, said it was also checking that report.

More than 1,150 Palestinians have been killed and 5,100 wounded, many of them civilians, since Israel launched an air blitz on Gaza on December 27 and sent in ground forces a week later.

Ten Israeli soldiers and three civilians, hit by rockets fired from Gaza, have been killed during the campaign.

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:12 am

So now, it is obvious Israel intentionally targets the UN, totally disregarding international law, even after the UN calls for it not to. The leader ( as simple as it gets.) calling for it to stop, there is to be eventually an investigation about these UN incidents, yet, Israel continues killing innocent civilians of all sorts, not just Palestinians. And still have yet to prove Hamas was anywhere near these UN facilities. This is all recent news. Within an hour or so.

Israelis are doing this.

Israelis are Jews right?

How can Jews believe this is right?

Can an Israeli/Jewish Burner please explain the logic of this to me?

Anyone? I've posted all what I know in a real time factual sense as Best and as much as possible.

Is it that Israel/.........has so much money that people/humans of any type, age or color does not matter? Are insignificant? Starving people of food, medicine, life is not important, to achieve what? A simple piece of land? What is under the land besides old buildings, dead bodies and soil? Israel can Break as many if not all rules/laws period and get away with it?

Besides what George W. Bush and Cheney and the lot are getting away with.

Israel tops the list so far, in the shortest amount of time.
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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:10 am

Mind you, everyone in the area except Israel kept the peace till Israel broke it for the last 41 years to this day/second.

Prove me wrong.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:55 am

DVD, notice how i stay out of this one....it's like banging your head against a stale bagel...


nobody gets to eat the cream cheese.


even the most liberal of peacenik Jews i know turn into frothing Jack Bauersteins when the subject of their beloved Zion comes up.


except me...but i am not a Jew, Jews will call me a Jew because of my name and how i look, which i find racist and revolting.

it is a Fucking RELIGION and nothing more......the Israelis and Hawkish American Jews need to GET THE FUCK OVER THEMSELVES, YOU ARE NOT THE CHOSEN ONES, YOU ARE JUST LIKE THE REST OF US HUMANS.

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:37 am

and I'm told to "shut the fuck up" and called a "dick' for posting the truth and for the way I deliver it. :?
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Post by littleflower » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:03 pm

DVD Burner wrote:and I'm told to "shut the fuck up" and called a "dick' for posting the truth and for the way I deliver it. :?
this is untrue, DVD. people get mad at you for the way you attack other people who post here, and your total disrespect for their ideas and opinions. some of us may get annoyed at your endless barrage of info .... but that by itself does not cause all of the anger that gets directed your way.

this has been explained several times, by several people, but still you do not get it. no doubt, you will ignore this post, as well.

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:12 pm

littleflower wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:and I'm told to "shut the fuck up" and called a "dick' for posting the truth and for the way I deliver it. :?
this is untrue, DVD. people get mad at you for the way you attack other people who post here, and your total disrespect for their ideas and opinions. some of us may get annoyed at your endless barrage of info .... but that by itself does not cause all of the anger that gets directed your way.

this has been explained several times, by several people, but still you do not get it. no doubt, you will ignore this post, as well.

uuummmm, I was being derogatory, factitious, and satirical.

yeah, at times I am a dick and I do insult people. especially the ones that earn it.

I really have no problems with it.

where does the satire come in? When people tell me to shut the fuck up when I touch a nerve in the most precise way.

Was that in slow motion enough for you?

Might have been too much of a barrage of info. Funny thing is, the "barrage of info" I post shouldn't be or seem to be if one knew and was aware of what was going on in the world around them.
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Post by mdmf007 » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:29 pm

Israel will be having the exact same problems 100 years from now, unless something Drastic happens to change the status quo. IMHo know one knows the total truth or whole picture - theres just too much going on to say who started what when and how, shits happening at the neighborhood level all the time.

Buid a better fence, isolate isolating Israel would at least cut down on suicide bombers.

Tell you what though, whoever comes up with a good plan today - earns a Nobel Prize tomorrow. thats the scale of this problem.

just my 2 cents

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:48 pm

mdmf007 wrote:Israel will be having the exact same problems 100 years from now, unless something Drastic happens to change the status quo. IMHo know one knows the total truth or whole picture - theres just too much going on to say who started what when and how, shits happening at the neighborhood level all the time.
Sorry to say but that is nonsense. Not in this day and age. Anyone can understand and can find all the information they want anytime they want. All they have to do is make the initial effort to properly educate themselves and pay attention to what's going on in the world instead of ignoring the facts.
It's all widely available.
Israel makes it obvious and makes no bones as to what they are about and what they are doing. Every step of the way and they do it blatantly.
They lie continuously, and when they get popped, they always say they made a mistake and continue on like nothing happened. This is a proven fact as I have posted these facts several times on this board.

mdmf007 wrote:Buid a better fence, isolate isolating Israel would at least cut down on suicide bombers.
It has not and will never do so. And even if one believes so, do you actually think the animosity will ever stop?
Ironically Israel took nothing away from the lessons of the Berlin wall.
Or even the lessons learned from America with the Mexican boarder.
So you think creating an outdoor prison is the solution?

mind you all those walls have ever done is steal more land from Palestinians. Israel has always used the wall to recreate the boarders.
mdmf007 wrote:Tell you what though, whoever comes up with a good plan today - earns a Nobel Prize tomorrow. thats the scale of this problem.

just my 2 cents
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Post by Box Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:31 pm

mdmf007 wrote:Israel will be having the exact same problems 100 years from now, unless something Drastic happens to change the status quo. IMHo know one knows the total truth or whole picture - theres just too much going on to say who started what when and how, shits happening at the neighborhood level all the time.

Buid a better fence, isolate isolating Israel would at least cut down on suicide bombers.

Tell you what though, whoever comes up with a good plan today - earns a Nobel Prize tomorrow. thats the scale of this problem.

just my 2 cents
OK. here it is in a nutshell. The Jews believe that there is only one God and that they are his chosen people. If you are not born a Jew you cannot become one. And if you are not a Jew you do not really count. The same problem exists on the other side of the fence with the Palestinians by the way.

The answer to the problem is for God to come down and slap them both up-side of the head and tell them to behave themselves.

so when do I get my Nobel prize? it will look good on the shelf in my front room.

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Post by wedeliver » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:54 pm

Box Burner wrote: OK. here it is in a nutshell. The Jews believe that there is only one God and that they are his chosen people. If you are not born a Jew you cannot become one. And if you are not a Jew you do not really count. The same problem exists on the other side of the fence with the Palestinians by the way.

The answer to the problem is for God to come down and slap them both up-side of the head and tell them to behave themselves.

so when do I get my Nobel prize? it will look good on the shelf in my front room.

:D
There seems to be a little misunderstanding, perhaps the following will help.

first Every religon thinks it's believers are the chosen people. I mean if a religion said, we are not as good as that religion, people would leave and go to the other one. Every religion is the only true one also. Now as my grandmother would say, "no people were chosen, Just live a good life. And if jews were chosen, what were they chosen for? To be persecuted forever?" A lot of jews think this "chosen people' thing just makes them a target.

Second I was told that Marilyn Monroe and Sammy Davis Jr. both converted.
People convert to Judaism for many reasons. As varied as the reasons for someone to convert, the goal is still the same. By their own choice, an individual wants to become one with the Jewish people uniting oneself with the faith and the fate of of the people of Israel, even knowing well the history of our martyrdom in years past.

Some individuals convert to Judaism because of a geneological reason. They know that they have Jewish ancestry and want to connect to their family. In this way, the act to convert to Judaism comes as a natural step and a continuation of a line of ancestry for many people. In other cases, forming a relationship with a Jewish person makes the connection to Judaism and through that experience exposes an individual to our tradition and practice. By experiencing Jewish holidays and the Jewish family values, a person may want to then convert to Judaism in order to unite themselves with family and take the values and traditions on as their own. For those who are studying, researching, examining, and evaluating their own religion and religious practice in their lives, the values and the mitzvot that are the essence of Judaism often serve as inspiration for people to convert to Judaism. Judaism as the "religion of the deed, not the religion of the creed" rings true for such individuals. Some people tell me that their reason to convert to Judaism is that they feel a true connection with God, having no intermediaries or saints. However the most common reason for conversion to Judaism is a mix of them all.

Whatever might be your reason to convert to Judaism, and however fervent it may be, it is but a flame. For me as a Rabbi, the most relevant part of conversion to Judaism is your commitment to live a Jewish life. Ultimately, living a Jewish life is what you need to do in order to have a positive Jewish identity. This means fulfilling our mitzvot, and conducting daily acts of loving kindness. You might have this spark within you to convert to Judaism, and want to carry it out, but only through daily practice can the light of Torah be kept alive, for the future, and continue to guide your path.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:04 pm

amen.


i mean no disrespect to the Jews, that would be dishonouring my ancestors and relatives from 1/2 of my genetic code and history.

it is my wish that the israelis and the palestinians live in peace, together, or in separate COOPERATIVE AMICABLE states, and this means Israel needs to start heeding some UN resolutions, or suffer the consequences of discontinued funding.

wiggle the money carrot and the horses will do what they are asked.

we should utilize this leverage to make peace just as we spend to make war.
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Post by dragonfly Jafe » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:56 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
littleflower wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:and I'm told to "shut the fuck up" and called a "dick' for posting the truth and for the way I deliver it. :?
this is untrue, DVD. people get mad at you for the way you attack other people who post here, and your total disrespect for their ideas and opinions. some of us may get annoyed at your endless barrage of info .... but that by itself does not cause all of the anger that gets directed your way.

this has been explained several times, by several people, but still you do not get it. no doubt, you will ignore this post, as well.

uuummmm, I was being derogatory, ... , I am a dick, ...and I do insult people.
I would take the time to thoroughly read what you post if you were not such a derogatory pompous dick who insulted everyone who isn't you. Sometimes it appears that your ideas could have merit, but unfortunately your ideas are smothered in some much hate and insults that they become entirely impossible to digest.

Oh, but of course, everyone else is wrong and only you are right. You sound just like another pompous dick who thought much of himself but now has time to reflect on his actions in jail. I recommend you seek professional psychiatric help, before it is too late.

Don't bother to respond - like all your other thoughts and ideas I no longer can hear them....(plonk)
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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:54 pm

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OK. here it is in a nutshell. The Jews believe that there is only one God and that they are his chosen people. If you are not born a Jew you cannot become one. And if you are not a Jew you do not really count. The same problem exists on the other side of the fence with the Palestinians by the way.

WRONG!

You are right on the first half but very wrong on the second.
The fact is, Gaza is down the street from Bethlehem. Fact of the matter is, there are many Christian and Catholic Palestinians. not as many as Muslim but still a more than reasonable amount of Christian Palestinians.
Palestine being all Muslim is one of the biggest lies Israel and the United States has created in the media. Please stop this rumor.
As far as the Muslims go, they did not want Israel gone until Israel started it's aggressions.
Box Burner wrote:The answer to the problem is for God to come down and slap them both up-side of the head and tell them to behave themselves.

so when do I get my Nobel prize? it will look good on the shelf in my front room.

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You obviously have not viewed the facts I have posted either. Palestinians and others in the area have been defending the Palestinians for 41 years of Israels aggressions. When you see rockets go into Israel they go in AFTER Israel goes into Gaza and kills a few people. This is a fact you need to look up if you dont want to view the facts I posted.
Israel has been doing this for years. Even did it to the Americans since 1967.

I've already posted these facts with proof.

Please do some research before you post out of your butt.
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Re: goodbye DVD Burner, I hardly knew you...

Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:05 pm

dragonfly Jafe wrote:
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littleflower wrote: this is untrue, DVD. people get mad at you for the way you attack other people who post here, and your total disrespect for their ideas and opinions. some of us may get annoyed at your endless barrage of info .... but that by itself does not cause all of the anger that gets directed your way.

this has been explained several times, by several people, but still you do not get it. no doubt, you will ignore this post, as well.

uuummmm, I was being derogatory, ... , I am a dick, ...and I do insult people.

Ok, this is another time I am going to be a dick.

You edited what I posted.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU IDIOTS ENJOY EDITING WHAT I FUCKING POST?

Make me look as evil as you like but the fact is, I posted.
" at times I am a dick and I do insult people. especially the ones that earn it."

Hey ass hole, you earned it.

You fucked up when you rearranged what I posted.
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Post by AntiM » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:29 pm

This really is pointless sniping at each other at this point ... but have at it. Someone turn off the lights when you've all finished.

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:31 pm

yes Mom! nite!
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Post by AntiM » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:57 pm

Hey buddy, who you calling Mom?

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