Will Obama Do Obong Hits?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:32 am

Ok, i'm going WAY THE FUCK out on a limb here, but i have a really good feeling that today, during his historic Speech, Obama will raise the issue of our Draconian and Inneffective as well as costly "War on Drugs"

Our Court systems are overrun with minor drug infractions and arrests.

It is about time we legalize, and tax the Green (and the brown), and if you look at CHANGE.ORG and find the list that supporters of Obama want him to do when he gets into office, Lo and Behold LEGALIZE IT is number #1 by a landslide.

Gov. David Patterson wrote Obama a personal letter asking him to do just that.

and quite frankly, what would set the tone right more than a repeat of FDR's famous repeal of prohibition.

the time is NOW!

we shall see, but if it happens kiddies, remember where you heard it FIRST!

now i gotta run, i have to go invest all of my money in Phillie Inaugural Blunts.

Oh YES we CAN!

Post by **Elderberry** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:40 am

I doubt there will be any mention of anything about drugs today.

JK

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:42 am

put yer money where your mouth is, and give me odds...

Artemis · Post by **Artemis** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:49 am

sure it's #1 on the supported actions, but look how few people vote to support actions....

it has a wopping 904 supporters!

Post by **Elderberry** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:56 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:put yer money where your mouth is, and give me odds...

The odds are about the same as him talking about gays in the military in his speech today.

JK

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:58 am

This is a funny thread...not in its context, but in the fact that in a half hour of watching all the Foreplay of todays inaug. This very thought went through my head, along with about 60,000 others...

In my short 42 years Ive seen alot of things come to pass, that would have been unheard of by my mother...or grandmothers day...

That thought process took me to remembering one of the things I saw...I drove a friend to Truckee from Reno to pick up his perscription marijauna. The meet place was Truckee train station. There was a police officer in the parking lot as well. The distributer opened up his trunk, took out the lil' grab bags of "kinds" were as I was watching the cop, just to see what might happen.
Nothing.
Apparently this was a area used to doing drug store deliveries.

My words to Obama today would be...yank the rug out from the DEA...Get them focused away from simple mariuana issues and focus on the damned Meth issues that is killing this country!

By taking away the funding for trying to keep mariuana illegalized we could have millions and millions of dollars to fight the real war...Meth.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:03 am

the largest distributor of Meth in the WORLD is Shire Pharma under the guise of ADD medicine...(adderall)

Meth is not the problem. Dumb White People who dont know how to make it without blowing their trailer park up ARE.

now, where is my morning 20 mg.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:08 am

alright John....how about this.....5-1 against...

if i win, you owe me 5 times my bet....if i lose, it is one unit of whatever we decide to commodify.

How about Liquor?

you win, i bring a bottle of your choice.....I win....i get FIVE bottles of my choice....and i'll take the shittiest whisky you can find.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:09 am

As I had spoken to an old retire mafioso, he said the war on drugs and alcohol made his family rich!

he understood that prohibition is just a door for the black market and agreed with me that the only what to destroy it and the organize crime associated with it was to decriminalize and legalize it. He also said that its easy to bribe the FBI, DEA and especially your local Dick with a regular monthy payment to help clear the streets of competition.

The war on drugs is a failure. those I know that have used drugs in the past have no problem finding drugs when they are in season

But if you want Change you must first do so on the state level. Write letters, post threads in forums and speak out against departments like the DEA. They have a vested interest in keeping drugs ilegal. We know they lie to the American public with their scare tactic propaganda. Anyway
they're creepy people that hire criminals. One agent was a guy that used to prey on drug dealers by targeting them stealing their drugs and money. Those are the people you want making arrests. No biased decisions there. Hey if they don't like you they will just frame you as a pedophile- scumbags- I bet those are the people on Eplaya that say pot will be never be legalized and that Obama is a Muslim with a five year old mentality.

As I write this Obama has taken the Oath an is on to change! Drugs Laws hopefully will be on the agenda.

AIIZ

Post by **Elderberry** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:13 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:alright John....how about this.....5-1 against...

if i win, you owe me 5 times my bet....if i lose, it is one unit of whatever we decide to commodify.

How about Liquor?

you win, i bring a bottle of your choice.....I win....i get FIVE bottles of my choice....and i'll take the shittiest whisky you can find.

OK. You're on.

JK

xenarchi · Post by **xenarchi** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:31 am

It's coming to NY sooner than most think. We will be next in line for medical mary jane. NJ will be right behind them. Less than 5 years.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:34 am

You Win, John...he must have spaced it...

he did choose Hope over Fear though...oh wait, we did that in 2006...

nevermind.

now what the hell am i going to with all of these phillies?

klondike_bar · Post by **klondike_bar** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:35 am

rememer, there must be a price limit on the winner's bottles. asking for a walker's green label is simply out of the question.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:35 am

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:33 am

Michigan just voted for medical marijuana, which of course has opened up the floodgates on the obligatory court challenges. A number of cities have voted it in as well. I can't say I respond to many 420 emergencies but certainly do respond to Heroin and Coke. Shit! Even alcohol keeps me busier. It's high time

we stop wasting our time on something innocuous as bud and concentrate on the heavier shit.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:34 am

Simon is hooked on dope.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:37 am

it's better than phonics......WAY BETTER.

Post by **Elderberry** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:02 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:You Win, John...he must have spaced it...

he did choose Hope over Fear though...oh wait, we did that in 2006...

nevermind.

now what the hell am i going to with all of these phillies?

You knew I'd win that one. Make sure you bring the booze to the meet-n-greet, so I can share the spoils of victory with everyone!

JK

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:24 pm

Hey, Sail Man, how many coffee emergencies do you get?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:08 pm

xenarchi wrote:It's coming to NY sooner than most think. We will be next in line for medical mary jane. NJ will be right behind them. Less than 5 years.

Oh, can you repost that with a larger font, my eyes are going bad from the cataracts

I guess I need some med marijuana to help me see the light!

Can you see the LIGHT!

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:14 pm

Simon, wasn't there another thing, something about the Bill's and you spending the week sans clothes this year?? I recall something, but it could have been a dream.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:14 am

that was if they WON the superbowl.

i knew i wouldnt lose that one, even with the return of the Messiah and all, it just aint happening....

Buffalo is Doomed, it is truly a Terminal City.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:34 am

Hmmmm, Terminal City...
somewhere in my pot smoked up brain cells that rings a bell?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:51 am

this thread title sounds suspiciously Irish.............

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:04 am

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Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:36 am

January 14, 2009
Our Drug War Next Door
By Clarence Page

Before you venture into Ciudad Juarez, brace yourself to hear Texans tell you that you're crazy.

Visiting friends in neighboring El Paso a few days before Christmas, I was immediately warned, "Don't even think about going into Juarez."

Just across the shallow creek known as the Rio Grande from El Paso, one of the safest cities of its size in the nation, Juarez is a city under siege, the worst victim of Mexico's growing wars between drug cartels.

The tragedy is etched in daily news headlines. The same day I arrived, two Mexican police offers were ambushed, shot to death while sitting in their patrol car. Just another bloody day in Juarez.

Hardly a day goes by without a new Juarez horror story in the El Paso Times:

"Man found dead with hands severed."
"Prominent Juarez lawyer, son, among four found dead Tuesday."

"Man found shot to death in trash drum."

"El Paso charities afraid to cross border."

"Juarez area slayings top 20 in new year."

Murders across Mexico more than doubled last year to more than 5,600. That's more than the total Americans lost so far in the Iraq war.

Most of those murders have been happening in border towns. More than 1,600 were killed in Juarez, Mexico's fourth largest city, with a population of 1.7 million. The bloodbath of unspeakable brutality includes kidnappings and decapitated bodies left in public places as a grisly form of advertising.

"There have already been 20 murders in Juarez this year," Beto O'Rourke, a member of El Paso's city council, told me in a telephone interview this week as President-elect Barack Obama met with Mexico's President Felipe Calderon Monday. "That doesn't include the kidnappings and extortions. Ciudad Juarez is essentially a failed city at this point. They can't guarantee your safety."

The situation is deteriorating so fast that "Mexico is on the edge of abyss," retired four-star Gen. Barry McCaffrey, a drug czar under President Clinton, said.

"It could become a narco-state in the coming decade," he wrote in a recent report, and the result could be a "surge of millions of refugees" crossing the U.S. border to escape.

Something drastic needed to be done, O'Rourke, a fourth-generation El Paso resident, decided. A proposed city council resolution called for more federal action on both sides of the border to reduce the flow of guns and drugs.

But it wasn't strong enough. O'Rourke pushed things further by adding 12 words: "supporting an honest, open, national debate on ending the prohibition on narcotics." The council passed it unanimously.

Yet even a bid to talk about drug legalization was too much for Mayor John Cook. He vetoed the bill, at least partly out of concern that Washington might not take the measure seriously with the drug legalization line in it.

Nevertheless, the controversy brought what has been rare American media attention to Mexico's crisis by turning it into radio and cable TV talk fodder. That's a start.

Obama promised more American help to Calderon in a meeting that focused on trade, immigration and the drug war. President Bush successfully pushed the Merida initiative, a $1.4 billion security package to help Mexico with high-tech equipment and anti-drug training.

The first $400 million, approved by Congress last year, has begun to flow. But the rest of the funds could be slowed by the many other financial pressures this country and the incoming Obama administration faces.

And Calderon faces mounting pressures on his two-year-old campaign against drug and gun smuggling. The campaign that actually touched off much of the fighting between the cartels. It has also exposed corruption that reached the highest levels of his government. Even a member of his security team has been arrested for allegedly feeding information to the cartels in exchange for money.

When you step back and take a broad look at Mexico's growing carnage, it's easy to see why El Paso's city leaders think legalization doesn't look so bad. Mexico's drug problem is not the drugs. It is the illegality of the drugs.

Legalization is not the perfect solution. But treating currently illegal drugs in the way we treat liquor and other legal addictive substances would provide regulation, tax revenue and funds for rehabilitation programs. Most satisfying, it would wipe a lot of smiles off the current drug lords' faces.

Page is a Pulitzer Prize-winning syndicated columnist specializing in urban issues. He is based in Washington, D.C. E-mail: [email protected]

Legalized it and control it and you take control from the gangs and organized crime sindicates.

The New and Improved DEA will be used to stop the Black Market production of drugs

AIIZ

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:06 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote: Legalized it and control it and you take control from the gangs and organized crime sindicates.

AIIZ

That's the answer!

JK

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:20 pm

jkisha wrote:
Apollonaris Zeus wrote: Legalized it and control it and you take control from the gangs and organized crime sindicates.

AIIZ
That's the answer!

JK

like that'll happen.......
to much money in it being illegal............
the payoffs to keep it illegal will continue..........
and, with government, payoffs are key..........

IMHCO..........

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:35 pm

ygmir wrote:
jkisha wrote:
Apollonaris Zeus wrote: Legalized it and control it and you take control from the gangs and organized crime sindicates.

AIIZ
That's the answer!

JK
like that'll happen.......
to much money in it being illegal............
the payoffs to keep it illegal will continue..........
and, with government, payoffs are key..........

IMHCO..........

Who knows. Prohibition was repealed.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:08 pm

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