Jerri from Survivor and other celebrities

Icepack · Post by **Icepack** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:07 pm

Being a regular Survivor watcher, I have of course noticed that Jerri is a veteran of Burning Man. Maybe she's even on Eplaya. Survivor has made a few Burning man references during the all-star season. I'm wondering, have other Survivor cast or crew been to Burning Man?

I have also heard that Jerri plans to be there this year. Do you think she'll get surrounded by fans?

Has anyone actually seen a celebrity (besides Larry Harvey) at Burning Man? How was the celeb treated? Like just another average person or were their people bugging them and trying to get an autograph or an interview?

(just my random thoughts on a Saturday night)

III · Post by **III** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:57 pm

some people leave behind their celebrity worship when they come to the playa, and try to treat everyone equally.

others hang onto it.

and yet others chase the dream of being celebrities themselves, and whore themselves out in the worst possible fashion to that end...

_tears_ · Post by **_tears_** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:49 am

I just dont see what the big deal is with celebrties. They eat,sleep and use the rest rooms like eveyone else. They work just like most people in america. If i saw someone celebrty at Burning Man i wouldnt even think twice about it. They are just like everyone else.

As i have stated before.. After Burning Man you just dont see people going around saying " OMG DID YOU SEE TEARS ON THE PLAYA "

---TEARS---

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:28 am

I usually root for the BRC citizen when I see them in various programs, but I just don't get that "participant" vibe from Jerri....Rupert, maybe, although I wouldn't sleep in a shade structure that he'd built!

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:59 pm

I vaguely remember something in the nondisclosure agreement about the first rule of "Survivor"....

Nevermind....

manowar · Post by **manowar** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:02 am

Saw her on one of the morning shows while getting ready for work. Caught my attention when they started talking about her performing with Mutaytor. Sounds to me like she's counting the days down just like the rest of us.

Sand_man · Post by **Sand_man** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:45 pm

Yah ,I saw that familier neckless on the last Survivor as well. I really hope that people don't return to that base instinct of wanting an autograph or hating someone they don't know out at the Burn. Jerri was a pain in the show, but here at the Burn everyone is in the same place.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:08 pm

Has anyone actually seen a celebrity (besides Larry Harvey) at Burning Man? How was the celeb treated? Like just another average person or were their people bugging them and trying to get an autograph or an interview?

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I doubt that I would even recognize a celebrity..., my memory for names and faces isn't all that good. As far as Survivor people go, I have only seen one show that I can recall, and the people on it really didn't make much of an impression on me....<shrugs>

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:09 pm

Has anyone actually seen a celebrity (besides Larry Harvey) at Burning Man? How was the celeb treated? Like just another average person or were their people bugging them and trying to get an autograph or an interview?

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I doubt that I would even recognize a celebrity..., my memory for names and faces isn't all that good. As far as Survivor people go, I have only seen one show that I can recall, and the people on it really didn't make much of an impression on me....<shrugs>

Malochango · Post by **Malochango** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:19 am

I have seen famous people on the playa. The first thing i do is kick them in the nuts as hard as I can. Then I steal thier women. This even applies in Jerrys' case too.

try it it's fun~!!!

chickenfish · Post by **chickenfish** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:46 pm

turn off your fucking television already! DIDN'T YOU GET THE FUCKING MEMO!

missmann · Post by **missmann** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:48 pm

i find it funny that the cast of survivor are "celebrities". Actually I thinkthe whole concept of celebrity is pretty damn ridiculous. anyhow, friends of mine saw Drew Barrymore chillin'.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:15 pm

chickenfish wrote:turn off your fucking television already! DIDN'T YOU GET THE FUCKING MEMO!

What is "television"? Is it a music group?

chickenfish · Post by **chickenfish** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:17 pm

television is the biggest music group in the world i think- I hear people talking about it all the time...

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:34 am

so now I see who this Jerri is. Just caught the last bit of Howard Stern and she talked about fire spinning and her part in "Dodge ball".

That seems like it's gonna be a decent movie.

Lilly Flower · Post by **Lilly Flower** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:53 am

You know something, It would be nice to hear what Jerri has to say about this thread.

Oh and in 94' Penny Marshall was at the Playa.

(she's really nice.)

Goodness gracious.

jbelson · Post by **jbelson** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:00 pm

This tripped me out. I saw a picture of Diane Keaton on the playa.
She was dressed exactly like in the fake world. Stripped shirt with the collar up..

rogue agent · Post by **rogue agent** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:47 pm

Yeah I heard Jerri on Howard Stern. Celebrity is a disease & she's got it. She seems torn between her "celebrity self" & her "Burner self". I hope she figures out which she is.

RA

serendipity · Post by **serendipity** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:36 pm

really kids, i am shaking my head in shame. being at burning man is so far from the false reality of TV movies and music videos. any person who is famous in that realm is probably coming to brc to escape their celebrity and experience the community and art like the rest of us.

please stop talking about jerri from survivor like she really is jerri from survivor. i camped nextdoor to her a few years ago and she is a lovely human with a generous heart.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:39 pm

Right on. I think most are just Jealous.

What does Jeri have to say about all of this?

Ivy · Post by **Ivy** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:11 pm

please stop talking about jerri from survivor like she really is jerri from survivor.

When Jerri from Survivor stops talking like she really is Jerri from Survivor, then so will I.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:02 pm

Ivy wrote:[...When Jerri from Survivor stops talking like she really is Jerri from Survivor, then so will I.

Tell me, have you ever seen her speak outside of an interview or media appearance? And how many of those do you think she'd do if she weren't "Jerri from Survivor," and didn't speak accordingly?

If you're a personal friend, know her in real life, and speak with her regularly then I'd give your opinion of how she talks credibility. But if you're basing your ideas on the media image you see, you've got a biased pool of data. You're not seeing her, you're seeing a product she (and others) have created and are trying to sell to you. While she's that product, of course she'll talk in such a way to maximze sales. All starting celebrities do that, they have to. If they didn't no one would put a camera in their face and they wouldn't have a career.

Just like you can't really figure out a darn thing about the personal life of the engineer who designed a product by looking at it, you can't really tell anything about an actor by looking at their public appearances. We think we can, 'cause we're seeing a body. But it's a body that's been honed to present false images, and used to maximize a career. There's not a thing wrong with that, IMHO, but us viewers have to remember it when we form our opinions, I think...

Ron

Ivy · Post by **Ivy** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:27 am

Tell me, have you ever seen her speak outside of an interview or media appearance?

Yes, in fact, I have.

And how many of those do you think she'd do if she weren't "Jerri from Survivor," and didn't speak accordingly?

This is the path she chose. no one is forcing her to go out there and plug herself or making her act like a celebrity or sell her product or herself. Regardless of who she is "inside," this is the face she has chosen to present to the world. And that face is all we have to to form our opinions about her. Like the eplaya--I'm sure a lot of people are different people "on the inside," but how am i to know if they never show evidence of that. (But, hey, at least they're not trying to sell me something.)
I can only use what people show me of themselves to form my opinions of them.

We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

Tancorix · Post by **Tancorix** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:35 am

We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

Hmmm....I wonder where I've seen that quote before? That was the last thing I copied from the 3Playa before I removed my favorites link and haven't been back. And I've got it wrote down in several places now as a reminder. Thanks Ivy for bringing it over here. [/quote]

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:44 am

Ivy wrote:......This is the path she chose. no one is forcing her to go out there and plug herself or making her act like a celebrity or sell her product or herself.

And I'm not saying anyone has. I am saying that thinking one knows her, based on her advertising, acting, or other media appearances is a fine example of fooling oneself.

Ivy wrote:... Regardless of who she is "inside," this is the face she has chosen to present to the world. And that face is all we have to to form our opinions about her.

Or, one could refuse to form an opinion about her. Or, chose to form an opinion only about the nature of her marketing, not about the nature of her person. Either would be closer to accurate, more friendly, and involve less self delusion. Furthermore, there are even more options than the three we've listed here. "Only-s," often stick in my craw...;)

Ivy wrote:... Like the eplaya--I'm sure a lot of people are different people "on the inside," but how am i to know if they never show evidence of that. (But, hey, at least they're not trying to sell me something.)

Oh, I don't know, in a very real sense we're all "selling" ourselves here. :) Seriously though I do see your point. You can't know *how* folk are different, based on the media you see them in, unless you see them in other media. Agreed. However, you can know that they *are* different, based on those media in question, their goals at the time, and so on. I'm not saying Jerri from Surivior (I've never seen the show, BTW, no cable here) is a saint or anything. I am saying, based on her media appearances, we know nothing about her, only her product.

Ivy wrote:...We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

That's as true for those who observe and judge as it is for those who pretend, seems to me...

Ron

Ivy · Post by **Ivy** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:43 am

I see your point, but

However, you can know that they *are* different,

you're telling me that I can't *know* anything about a person but then you're telling me I can *know* that they're different? Bullshit. I agree with you about knowing that you don't know them--that goes both ways, though. I can't know she's different any more than i can know she's a media whore.

Or, one could refuse to form an opinion about her.

I think this is pretty unrealistic, regarding Jerri or anybody else. We form opinions about people before we meet them, before we hear them speak, before we see them. It's a subconsious thing and it's beyond our control. Are those opinions right? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. *That's* what people need to remember.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:29 pm

Ivy wrote:....

you're telling me that I can't *know* anything about a person but then you're telling me I can *know* that they're different? Bullshit.

Hardly. I can easily know that someone will behave differently while a TV camera is pointed at them, than they will around a private dinner table, without knowing a thing about what kind of person they are. We're all context dependent, afterall. You seem to be getting hung up on the word, 'know,' and go to, if you like, but there's no bullshit in understanding that folk will behave differently, in different contexts, and that looking at their image on a screen isn't a good way to know anything about them as a person.

Ivy wrote:....I agree with you about knowing that you don't know them--that goes both ways, though. I can't know she's different any more than i can know she's a media whore.

Depending on how you mean the term I may agree with you. But that's her job, and like most jobs, looking at the out put of her professionally product won't tell you much about her as a person. I know lots of assholes who do great work, professionally, and lots of wonderful people who I wouldn't hire to wipe their own butts. :)

Ron wrote:]Or, one could refuse to form an opinion about her.

Ivy wrote:....I think this is pretty unrealistic, regarding Jerri or anybody else.

If you think it's so, then it's so. For you. However, other folk do it all the time. Ask a judge their opinion about a case they've only read about in the press. Ask an engineer their opinion of a bridge they've only seen a few distant pictures of. Ask a writer to evalute the worth of a person based only the fictional story that person has written. Most of the time they'll tell you that they don't have the data they need to form an opinion, I'd be more than willing to bet. And those are just one of many examples of folk learning how to withold their opinions in the face of limited, or inappropiate, information.

Ivy wrote:.... We form opinions about people before we meet them, before we hear them speak, before we see them. It's a subconsious thing and it's beyond our control. Are those opinions right? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. *That's* what people need to remember.

I'd agree with that as well. But I'm talking about conscious, voiced, opinions. The unconscious is like god, everything to everbody...

Ron

Ivy · Post by **Ivy** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:58 pm

I can easily know that someone will behave differently while a TV camera is pointed at them

I disagree. This may be true sometimes. I don't believe it's true always.

like most jobs, looking at the out put of her professionally product won't tell you much about her as a person

And I disagree with this also. There are plenty of jobs and occupations where people are the same personally as well as professionally. I think this depends far more on the person than on the job. There are people that I know that have such variably differnt job from their personal lives (almost to the point where they have to be mutually exclusive) but I can see the same things in them looking at them from both angles.
I do believ that looking at the putput of a person's profession can indeed tell you a great deal about them. From CEO to minimum wage burger-flipper, it doesn't matter. There's a part of perople's personality that comes through. Celebrities are no exception.

Most of the time they'll tell you that they don't have the data they need to form an opinion,

Third time's a charm I guess--gotta disagree here, too. I love this concept in theory. I think some people do it. Most people? Nah. Most people are going to form an opinion. Your example of a wirter was perfect--I studeied fiction writing for a long time and while I'd ideally like to believe that people judged my stories separatley from me, it just wasn't the case the majority of the time. People like to think they're unbiased, but they're not. It's only when people realized that they're not unbiased that they can attempt to over come that. [/quote]

Stormy · Post by **Stormy** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:06 pm

Has anyone actually seen a celebrity (besides Larry Harvey) at Burning Man?

Well I for one am glad that BM is still a world where different things are valued. In the world most of us reside in wealth, political status or media status wield a lot of power. People with these things are valued. It's nice to go to a world where creativity is valued and it in a way is status there. The people you remember from BM are the ones who made a creative contribution.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:15 am

Ivy wrote:...I disagree. This may be true sometimes. I don't believe it's true always.

Damn little is always true, especially when we're talking about human behavior. However, the effects of the presence of a camera on subjects' behavior is well enough recognized in the social sciences that, when cameras are used, certain protocol exist to reduce the impact of them on the test subjects. If the scientist can't hide the cameras and shoot without awareness, they do other things to reduce the cameras impact.

Ivy wrote:.......

Third time's a charm I guess--gotta disagree here, too. I love this concept in theory. I think some people do it. Most people? Nah.

That's the cool thing about life, we don't have to agree. However, if you've gone from saying that witholding an opinion on folk is rare, from saying it's impossible, I'm happy. I'd agree it's rare. Being a nice person is rare. But as long as we agree it's not impossible, I've done as much as I could ever hope. :)

Ivy wrote:... Most people are going to form an opinion. Your example of a wirter was perfect--I studeied fiction writing for a long time and while I'd ideally like to believe that people judged my stories separatley from me, it just wasn't the case the majority of the time. People like to think they're unbiased, but they're not. It's only when people realized that they're not unbiased that they can attempt to over come that.

Indeed. That's rather been my point. In fact, I'd like to think I've been illustrating some of your biases.

Again, we don't have to agree, and that's more than cool with me. I'll leave you with these last two questions. As a wrighter, how does it tend to make you feel when someone reads your work and thinks they know you, as a person? And, secondly, how accurate do you feel those impressions of your personality are, when your readers make them?

Ron

Jerri from Survivor and other celebrities

Jerri from Survivor and other celebrities

celebrate your own celebratyishness

TV IS DEAD

Re: TV IS DEAD

bigger than jitney

no such thing as celebrity in brc