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Palestine: Report: Israeli army kidnapped 7600 children since 2000
19-02-2009
By Saed Bannoura
IMEMC & Agencies:
Palestinian Researcher, specialized in detainees’ affairs, Awni Farawna, stated that the Israeli army kidnapped 7600 Palestinian children, males and females, since the year 2000; 246 children are still behind bars.
At least 200 of the kidnapped children were detained under administrative detention, without charges or trial. Some of the children were as young as 12 years old.
One detainee is now 13 months old as he was born behind bars. His mother, Fatima AL Zoq, was kidnapped while pregnant and gave birth in prison while she was handcuffed and her legs were tied to the hospital bed.
Farawna stated that Israel’s targeting of children is a policy that targets childhood and a healthy growth, and expressed concern over the fate of the detained children as they are subjected to different sorts of violations, torture and isolation which affects their growth, physical and psychological conditions, in addition to affecting their education.
Hundreds of children were cut off schools due to being imprisoned; hundreds of detainees were kidnapped when they were children and grew up behind bars. Many of them spend more years behind bars than with their families.
Several detained children were sexually abused and violated by the interrogators and the soldiers, while a number of Israeli prisoners, held for criminal violations, also attacked them.
Farawna stated that the international law and all treaties regarding children, forbid barring children from their freedom, forbid torturing and violating them, and call for providing them with a healthy environment, education, mental and physical care, and calls for providing them with the needed recreation.
On the ground, Israel is ongoing with kidnapping Palestinian children, imprisoning and torturing them. At least 93% of the detained children were tortured, physically and mentally, and were forced to sign confessions which were used later on in Israeli courts.
Farawna added that the detained children are treated by the soldiers and the interrogators as adults, which comes in direct violation of the international law.
Many children were arrested more than one time before their reached the age of 18; others were kidnapped as children and grew up to be young men and men while they are still in prison.
Several children who grew up in prison and were released later on are having difficulties in coping with the outside world; some became violent and tend to seek vengeance.
Some of the abuse practices against the detained Palestinian children are in the form of sexual harassment, threat of rape, forcing them for undress and then taking pictures of their naked bodies, and threatening them more harm if they do not become collaborators with the occupation.
Farawna demanded international human rights groups to intervene and practice pressure on Israel in order to oblige it to comply with the international law and the fourth Geneva Conventions.
He said that the children should be back in school, not in cells, and that the daily violence they witness, the arrest of their parents, the death and destruction they witnessed before being kidnapped, is also affecting their growth and behavior.
The ongoing Israeli violations are creating a generation of Palestinians who seek vengeance, a generation that is willing to join the resistance at an early age, a generation of youths who have nothing more to lose after the occupation took their childhood, tortured and abused them, in addition to imprisoning them for extended periods.
19-02-2009
By Saed Bannoura
IMEMC & Agencies:
Palestinian Researcher, specialized in detainees’ affairs, Awni Farawna, stated that the Israeli army kidnapped 7600 Palestinian children, males and females, since the year 2000; 246 children are still behind bars.
At least 200 of the kidnapped children were detained under administrative detention, without charges or trial. Some of the children were as young as 12 years old.
One detainee is now 13 months old as he was born behind bars. His mother, Fatima AL Zoq, was kidnapped while pregnant and gave birth in prison while she was handcuffed and her legs were tied to the hospital bed.
Farawna stated that Israel’s targeting of children is a policy that targets childhood and a healthy growth, and expressed concern over the fate of the detained children as they are subjected to different sorts of violations, torture and isolation which affects their growth, physical and psychological conditions, in addition to affecting their education.
Hundreds of children were cut off schools due to being imprisoned; hundreds of detainees were kidnapped when they were children and grew up behind bars. Many of them spend more years behind bars than with their families.
Several detained children were sexually abused and violated by the interrogators and the soldiers, while a number of Israeli prisoners, held for criminal violations, also attacked them.
Farawna stated that the international law and all treaties regarding children, forbid barring children from their freedom, forbid torturing and violating them, and call for providing them with a healthy environment, education, mental and physical care, and calls for providing them with the needed recreation.
On the ground, Israel is ongoing with kidnapping Palestinian children, imprisoning and torturing them. At least 93% of the detained children were tortured, physically and mentally, and were forced to sign confessions which were used later on in Israeli courts.
Farawna added that the detained children are treated by the soldiers and the interrogators as adults, which comes in direct violation of the international law.
Many children were arrested more than one time before their reached the age of 18; others were kidnapped as children and grew up to be young men and men while they are still in prison.
Several children who grew up in prison and were released later on are having difficulties in coping with the outside world; some became violent and tend to seek vengeance.
Some of the abuse practices against the detained Palestinian children are in the form of sexual harassment, threat of rape, forcing them for undress and then taking pictures of their naked bodies, and threatening them more harm if they do not become collaborators with the occupation.
Farawna demanded international human rights groups to intervene and practice pressure on Israel in order to oblige it to comply with the international law and the fourth Geneva Conventions.
He said that the children should be back in school, not in cells, and that the daily violence they witness, the arrest of their parents, the death and destruction they witnessed before being kidnapped, is also affecting their growth and behavior.
The ongoing Israeli violations are creating a generation of Palestinians who seek vengeance, a generation that is willing to join the resistance at an early age, a generation of youths who have nothing more to lose after the occupation took their childhood, tortured and abused them, in addition to imprisoning them for extended periods.
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Middle East - Why not a One State Solution?
Hameed Abdul KARIM
http://www.dailynews.lk/2009/02/19/fea02.asp
There is a joke doing the rounds in Israel . It goes like this. An Israeli wanted to go abroad and so he thought he see a doctor to know if he needed to take an inoculation. In the small talk, the doctor asked him what he was doing for a living. "I am a writer he said Oh said the doctor, what do you write Stories he replied. And what are you working on now? queried the doctor Israel he responded. Ah, I see said the doctor you specialise in short stories.
And that virtually sums up the tight spot Israel is in now. The demographic bomb Israel had feared most is ticking and ticking fast.
Some analysts feel it won't be long when Israel will cease to exist as an exclusive Jewish state.
The Zionist project they believe is coming to an end and it's time the Zionist leaders came to grips with reality. But it doesn't look like they will throw in the towel without doing something dramatic to alter the status quo. It was with this in mind that the Jewish state unleashed its latest brutality in Gaza.
The plan was to chase away the miserable Palestinians there into Egypt and then go into yet another round of peace talks as a time buying ploy with a long range plan to grab the land as it had grabbed other parts of historical Palestine. But that backfired. So it's back to the drawing boards.
Slaughter
Slaughter has been the policy Israel had adopted since 1948 to expel the Palestinians from their homeland.
One such incident was the Deir Yassin massacre where over 250 men, women and children were butchered in cold blood by Menachem Begin who went on to become the Prime Minister of the Jewish state. Later he was awarded with the Noble Peace Prize!
And for well over 60 years Israel had done just that to frighten the Arabs away. But since massacres didn't have the desired result, Israel tried other tricks in the book from expulsions to extermination from home demolitions to hostage taking.
But to no avail. The Arab goys are still there on the land of their forefathers and it looks like nothing can drive them away. You can't squash the spirit of the people. Gaza is standing proof of that. So it's time Israeli leaders understood this characteristic of the Palestinians.
There is no point in reacting in a hysterical manner like did Shimon Peres when confronted by Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Ergodan at the Davos conference.
To make matters worse for Israel, the moral blackmail of the Holocaust doesn't have the same sting it had in the past. Not when Israel behaves in the same way as the Nazis did!
Talking of the demographic bomb, Israel has taken this enemy within so seriously that it operates a Centre for Demography which operates under the Welfare Ministry.
This Centre keeps a constant tab on the Palestinian population growth. But despite this, all signs are that pretty soon there will be more Palestinians in Israel and Occupied Palestine than Jews.
Viable state
It is for this reason, among many, that analysts believe the Two State solution will simply not work. Besides they feel the patchwork Palestine that Israel has in mind will not be a viable state if it can be classified as one. In any case Israel has built too many settlements in the occupied Palestine that it will not be possible to remove all the Jewish squatters numbering well over 500,000 from their homes and handover their properties to the Palestinians.
kind
Israel has no history of being kind to the Palestinians or any other nation.
Not even to the US , its main supporter. The Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty and the Jonathan Pollard case are the few that stand exposed.
Israel's motive behind building settlements in the Occupied Palestine, after signing peace treaties promising not to do so, was to prevent any sort of settlement to the conflict. Now their cleverness is coming home to roost. In a sense Israel has cooked its own goose.
The world cannot tolerate Israel's racist nature anymore. Zionism has taken the place of Judaism and so when an eminent man like Bishop Desmond Tutu says that Israel is a racist state worse - in some aspects than the Apartheid of South Africa's White racist rulers, then the world is likely to stand up and take note of what he says. Moreover, racist ideology like Zionism cannot sustain itself on its own.
All these years it has had the support of the US and the EU cartel, but with new winds blowing over the US and its new President warning people not to be on the wrong side of history it is possible that Israel might not have the leverage in world affairs it has enjoyed since its creation in 1948.
Moreover, Israel stands exposed in the eyes of many wealthy Zionist Jews in the US and elsewhere over Madoff's rip off of over US $ 50 billion in which they were the victims.
It is believed Madoff was a front for the Zionist state of Israel.
These Zionist Jews had supported Israel to the hilt, but with this new development it doesn't look like they will care too much for the Jewish state. Besides, they may not have the means to do so. Israel has already grabbed their money via Madoff.
Zionism
Apart form this, Jews who hate Zionism as much as other decent human beings are beginning to take centre stage in many a protest in European capitals.
Recently over the Gaza protests the Jews against Israel burnt their Israeli passports in public, demanding that Israel stop its Shoa (holocaust) of Gaza and that Israel cease to exist as a state by itself. They demanded that the whole of Israel be handed over to its rightful owners - the Palestinians.
brutality
Hundreds of non-Zionist Jews protested in the streets of Tel Aviv against the Jewish states brutality in Gaza as shown on Israel's Social TV.
Why, even in the US the unexpected has happened. On January 25 CBS televised a documentary siding with the Palestinian cause on its 60 Minutes show.
This documentary exposed Israeli Apartheid and inhuman treatment of the Palestinians much to the ire of the Jewish lobby. The producer, Bob Simon, is an Israeli Jew living close to Tel Aviv. His conclusion was the Two State solution is no longer possible.
Why should Israel remain a racist state exclusively for Jews, Why not a One State solution where Christians, Muslims and Jews can live together as equal stake holders in Palestine like they did before the advent of European Zionist Jews. Yes come to think of it. Why not a One State Solution?
just for Little.
Middle East - Why not a One State Solution?
Hameed Abdul KARIM
http://www.dailynews.lk/2009/02/19/fea02.asp
There is a joke doing the rounds in Israel . It goes like this. An Israeli wanted to go abroad and so he thought he see a doctor to know if he needed to take an inoculation. In the small talk, the doctor asked him what he was doing for a living. "I am a writer he said Oh said the doctor, what do you write Stories he replied. And what are you working on now? queried the doctor Israel he responded. Ah, I see said the doctor you specialise in short stories.
And that virtually sums up the tight spot Israel is in now. The demographic bomb Israel had feared most is ticking and ticking fast.
Some analysts feel it won't be long when Israel will cease to exist as an exclusive Jewish state.
The Zionist project they believe is coming to an end and it's time the Zionist leaders came to grips with reality. But it doesn't look like they will throw in the towel without doing something dramatic to alter the status quo. It was with this in mind that the Jewish state unleashed its latest brutality in Gaza.
The plan was to chase away the miserable Palestinians there into Egypt and then go into yet another round of peace talks as a time buying ploy with a long range plan to grab the land as it had grabbed other parts of historical Palestine. But that backfired. So it's back to the drawing boards.
Slaughter
Slaughter has been the policy Israel had adopted since 1948 to expel the Palestinians from their homeland.
One such incident was the Deir Yassin massacre where over 250 men, women and children were butchered in cold blood by Menachem Begin who went on to become the Prime Minister of the Jewish state. Later he was awarded with the Noble Peace Prize!
And for well over 60 years Israel had done just that to frighten the Arabs away. But since massacres didn't have the desired result, Israel tried other tricks in the book from expulsions to extermination from home demolitions to hostage taking.
But to no avail. The Arab goys are still there on the land of their forefathers and it looks like nothing can drive them away. You can't squash the spirit of the people. Gaza is standing proof of that. So it's time Israeli leaders understood this characteristic of the Palestinians.
There is no point in reacting in a hysterical manner like did Shimon Peres when confronted by Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Ergodan at the Davos conference.
To make matters worse for Israel, the moral blackmail of the Holocaust doesn't have the same sting it had in the past. Not when Israel behaves in the same way as the Nazis did!
Talking of the demographic bomb, Israel has taken this enemy within so seriously that it operates a Centre for Demography which operates under the Welfare Ministry.
This Centre keeps a constant tab on the Palestinian population growth. But despite this, all signs are that pretty soon there will be more Palestinians in Israel and Occupied Palestine than Jews.
Viable state
It is for this reason, among many, that analysts believe the Two State solution will simply not work. Besides they feel the patchwork Palestine that Israel has in mind will not be a viable state if it can be classified as one. In any case Israel has built too many settlements in the occupied Palestine that it will not be possible to remove all the Jewish squatters numbering well over 500,000 from their homes and handover their properties to the Palestinians.
kind
Israel has no history of being kind to the Palestinians or any other nation.
Not even to the US , its main supporter. The Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty and the Jonathan Pollard case are the few that stand exposed.
Israel's motive behind building settlements in the Occupied Palestine, after signing peace treaties promising not to do so, was to prevent any sort of settlement to the conflict. Now their cleverness is coming home to roost. In a sense Israel has cooked its own goose.
The world cannot tolerate Israel's racist nature anymore. Zionism has taken the place of Judaism and so when an eminent man like Bishop Desmond Tutu says that Israel is a racist state worse - in some aspects than the Apartheid of South Africa's White racist rulers, then the world is likely to stand up and take note of what he says. Moreover, racist ideology like Zionism cannot sustain itself on its own.
All these years it has had the support of the US and the EU cartel, but with new winds blowing over the US and its new President warning people not to be on the wrong side of history it is possible that Israel might not have the leverage in world affairs it has enjoyed since its creation in 1948.
Moreover, Israel stands exposed in the eyes of many wealthy Zionist Jews in the US and elsewhere over Madoff's rip off of over US $ 50 billion in which they were the victims.
It is believed Madoff was a front for the Zionist state of Israel.
These Zionist Jews had supported Israel to the hilt, but with this new development it doesn't look like they will care too much for the Jewish state. Besides, they may not have the means to do so. Israel has already grabbed their money via Madoff.
Zionism
Apart form this, Jews who hate Zionism as much as other decent human beings are beginning to take centre stage in many a protest in European capitals.
Recently over the Gaza protests the Jews against Israel burnt their Israeli passports in public, demanding that Israel stop its Shoa (holocaust) of Gaza and that Israel cease to exist as a state by itself. They demanded that the whole of Israel be handed over to its rightful owners - the Palestinians.
brutality
Hundreds of non-Zionist Jews protested in the streets of Tel Aviv against the Jewish states brutality in Gaza as shown on Israel's Social TV.
Why, even in the US the unexpected has happened. On January 25 CBS televised a documentary siding with the Palestinian cause on its 60 Minutes show.
This documentary exposed Israeli Apartheid and inhuman treatment of the Palestinians much to the ire of the Jewish lobby. The producer, Bob Simon, is an Israeli Jew living close to Tel Aviv. His conclusion was the Two State solution is no longer possible.
Why should Israel remain a racist state exclusively for Jews, Why not a One State solution where Christians, Muslims and Jews can live together as equal stake holders in Palestine like they did before the advent of European Zionist Jews. Yes come to think of it. Why not a One State Solution?
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DVD, your pathetic, your "facts" & research are bullshit.
(1) Sri Lanka is not in India. You said the the article was from India not once, but twice. If you can't even get the simple shit straight, why should I bother with any of your other "facts" or research.
(2)"Some analysts feel", "analysts believe" NEWS FLASH: feelings and beliefs are not political factsespecialy from unnamed analysts
(3) "It is believed Madoff was a front for the Zionist state of Israel." That is too stupid a conspiracy theory for even the Art Bell crew.
(4) and your "witty" style of insulting coments ceased to faze me 30 odd years ago.
and what is this shit suspose to be?????
(1) Sri Lanka is not in India. You said the the article was from India not once, but twice. If you can't even get the simple shit straight, why should I bother with any of your other "facts" or research.
(2)"Some analysts feel", "analysts believe" NEWS FLASH: feelings and beliefs are not political factsespecialy from unnamed analysts
(3) "It is believed Madoff was a front for the Zionist state of Israel." That is too stupid a conspiracy theory for even the Art Bell crew.
(4) and your "witty" style of insulting coments ceased to faze me 30 odd years ago.
and what is this shit suspose to be?????
a vailed threat???? Get a fucking life. Your boring me. Your dismissed.Usually not a good idea to fuck with an original burner.
If the only tool you know how to use is a hammer...
You end up seeing all problems as nails
You end up seeing all problems as nails
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EvilSockPuppy wrote:DVD, your pathetic, your "facts" & research are bullshit.
(1) Sri Lanka is not in India. You said the the article was from India not once, but twice. If you can't even get the simple shit straight, why should I bother with any of your other "facts" or research.
being off the southern coast of India it's obvious that was a mistake in words. but you make of it what you will, the article still stands.
EvilSockPuppy wrote: (2)"Some analysts feel", "analysts believe" NEWS FLASH: feelings and beliefs are not political factsespecialy from unnamed analysts
(3) "It is believed Madoff was a front for the Zionist state of Israel." That is too stupid a conspiracy theory for even the Art Bell crew.
(4) and your "witty" style of insulting coments ceased to faze me 30 odd years ago.
and what is this shit suspose to be?????a vailed threat???? Get a fucking life. Your boring me. Your dismissed.Usually not a good idea to fuck with an original burner.
You're still an idiot that fails to dispute the facts.
Socky baby.
so Is or is not the Jewish guy of 60 minutes a bigot or anti semite?
Nice diversion but it still doesn't hold.
You haven't answered the question.
probably caused you're pissed about the article being true to it's word Indian or not.
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EvilSockPuppy wrote:a vailed threat???? Get a fucking life. Your boring me. Your dismissed.Usually not a good idea to fuck with an original burner.
ROTF LMFAO!!!!!
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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U.S. Holds Firm on Reparations, Israel in U.N. Racism Talks
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... eheadlines
By Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 20, 2009; Page A10
UNITED NATIONS, Feb. 19 -- The Obama administration on Thursday concluded its first round of politically charged U.N. negotiations on racism, pressing foreign governments to drop reparation demands for slavery and to desist from singling out Israel for criticism in a draft declaration to be presented at a U.N. conference in April.
The United States is exploring whether it will participate in the conference, which will review progress on a declaration from the 2001 World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance. The United States and Israel walked out of that meeting, held in Durban, South Africa.
U.N. officials have urged the Obama administration to participate in the review conference, saying that the election of the first African American president presents the United States with an opportunity to inspire other minorities around the world and to highlight U.S. progress in the years since slavery was abolished and blacks were granted civil rights.
Although a decision has not been made on whether to attend, Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, dispatched two envoys, Felice D. Gaer, a human rights advocate, and Betty King, a former U.S. diplomat, to Geneva to make the U.S. case in discussions on the draft declaration.
The administration "is pushing back against efforts to brand Israel as racist in this conference," Gaer said in an interview. But she cautioned that U.S. attendance at this week's final preparatory meeting does not mean the United States will participate in the Geneva conference. "This is a fact-finding mission; it's just a first step. There is no promise that there will be anything else."
Still, the tentative U.S. diplomacy provides an early test of the administration's ability to advance the cause of human rights in an institution in which major rights violators hold considerable sway. The new administration is also considering whether it will join the U.N Human Rights Council, which the Bush administration derided as an Israel-bashing forum.
In the first round of negotiations, states offered more than 100 amendments to an already unwieldy draft declaration. For instance, Iran proposed language that would expand the meaning of the term anti-Semitism to include anti-Arab behavior.
Gaer said that she was also raising objections to a proposal by Islamist states to limit the right to defame religions. "It not only threatens freedom of speech, but threatens to turn the whole human rights paradigm on its head," she said. Negotiations will probably resume in March or early April, she said.
Israel and Canada have since said they would boycott the April review conference, claiming that initial preparatory meetings have confirmed their fears of anti-Israel bias in the process.
The debate over U.S. participation has pitted American human rights advocates, who support U.S. participation at the conference, against some American Jewish organizations, who have called for a boycott. "There hasn't been any change in terms of the bias, the bigotry, the stigmatizing of Israel," said Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "I can't see how anybody can maintain the illusion that they can make a difference."
Kenneth Roth, the executive director of Human Rights Watch, said the "people who want to boycott Durban are shooting themselves in the foot. I think it is important to remember the Durban process is one of consensus; those present can block any inappropriate statement. If the United States isn't there, it can't block consensus." The meeting is known as the Durban Review Conference.
Navanethem Pillay, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, said a boycott would be "a sad state of affairs."
"It risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy if the world's states cannot get together to discuss problems of this great importance," he said. "That would be a disaster and a huge setback in the fight against racism and intolerance."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... eheadlines
By Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 20, 2009; Page A10
UNITED NATIONS, Feb. 19 -- The Obama administration on Thursday concluded its first round of politically charged U.N. negotiations on racism, pressing foreign governments to drop reparation demands for slavery and to desist from singling out Israel for criticism in a draft declaration to be presented at a U.N. conference in April.
The United States is exploring whether it will participate in the conference, which will review progress on a declaration from the 2001 World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance. The United States and Israel walked out of that meeting, held in Durban, South Africa.
U.N. officials have urged the Obama administration to participate in the review conference, saying that the election of the first African American president presents the United States with an opportunity to inspire other minorities around the world and to highlight U.S. progress in the years since slavery was abolished and blacks were granted civil rights.
Although a decision has not been made on whether to attend, Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, dispatched two envoys, Felice D. Gaer, a human rights advocate, and Betty King, a former U.S. diplomat, to Geneva to make the U.S. case in discussions on the draft declaration.
The administration "is pushing back against efforts to brand Israel as racist in this conference," Gaer said in an interview. But she cautioned that U.S. attendance at this week's final preparatory meeting does not mean the United States will participate in the Geneva conference. "This is a fact-finding mission; it's just a first step. There is no promise that there will be anything else."
Still, the tentative U.S. diplomacy provides an early test of the administration's ability to advance the cause of human rights in an institution in which major rights violators hold considerable sway. The new administration is also considering whether it will join the U.N Human Rights Council, which the Bush administration derided as an Israel-bashing forum.
In the first round of negotiations, states offered more than 100 amendments to an already unwieldy draft declaration. For instance, Iran proposed language that would expand the meaning of the term anti-Semitism to include anti-Arab behavior.
Gaer said that she was also raising objections to a proposal by Islamist states to limit the right to defame religions. "It not only threatens freedom of speech, but threatens to turn the whole human rights paradigm on its head," she said. Negotiations will probably resume in March or early April, she said.
Israel and Canada have since said they would boycott the April review conference, claiming that initial preparatory meetings have confirmed their fears of anti-Israel bias in the process.
The debate over U.S. participation has pitted American human rights advocates, who support U.S. participation at the conference, against some American Jewish organizations, who have called for a boycott. "There hasn't been any change in terms of the bias, the bigotry, the stigmatizing of Israel," said Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "I can't see how anybody can maintain the illusion that they can make a difference."
Kenneth Roth, the executive director of Human Rights Watch, said the "people who want to boycott Durban are shooting themselves in the foot. I think it is important to remember the Durban process is one of consensus; those present can block any inappropriate statement. If the United States isn't there, it can't block consensus." The meeting is known as the Durban Review Conference.
Navanethem Pillay, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, said a boycott would be "a sad state of affairs."
"It risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy if the world's states cannot get together to discuss problems of this great importance," he said. "That would be a disaster and a huge setback in the fight against racism and intolerance."
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There is a good writeup on this page that illustrates the total intransigence of most of the settlers in Palestine;
""It's funny – well, not funny but tragic – to see a man like Ehud Barak, a real war hero, someone who was scared of nothing, who didn't know what it meant to be scared. [Yet] politically, a confrontation with the settlers is beyond his capacity. It's very sad."
There are also a couple of pics of kids that illustrate the lunacy of the situation.
http://jerusalem.craigslist.org/rnr/1013931428.html
""It's funny – well, not funny but tragic – to see a man like Ehud Barak, a real war hero, someone who was scared of nothing, who didn't know what it meant to be scared. [Yet] politically, a confrontation with the settlers is beyond his capacity. It's very sad."
There are also a couple of pics of kids that illustrate the lunacy of the situation.
http://jerusalem.craigslist.org/rnr/1013931428.html
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More proof of the murdering Israeli bastards, and fuck anyone here or elsewhere that supports Israel. This is some sick shit and more proof of the Israeli war crimes. Bastards shoot innocent women and children in cold blood.
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FUCK THE BIGOTS THAT TRY TO LABEL ME A BIGOT JUST CAUSE THEY CAN NOT DISPUTE THE FACTS OR TRUTH.
The IDF and those that rule Israel are a bunch of sick bastards.
View the documentary and prove it wrong please.
This just came out 5 hours ago.
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FUCK THE BIGOTS THAT TRY TO LABEL ME A BIGOT JUST CAUSE THEY CAN NOT DISPUTE THE FACTS OR TRUTH.
The IDF and those that rule Israel are a bunch of sick bastards.
View the documentary and prove it wrong please.
This just came out 5 hours ago.
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I see that some people are uncomfortable with DVD's posting language. Well, let's look at the language of a man whom the israelis elected as their representative.
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Menachem Begin.
Well, OK, let's look at the language of some of israel's teachers;
,"Rabbi Schneerson bragged, "is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul...A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness."
When several of his students were accused of murdering a teenage Arab girl, Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg insisted: "Jewish blood is not the same as the blood of a (Gentile) goy." In other words, if a god-like Jew kills an inferior goy, how can that be murder?
Rabbi Schlomo Aviner adds that normal human codes and laws of justice and righteousness do not apply to the Jews.
Rabbi Chanina says that, "He who strikes an Israelite acts as if he slaps the face of God's Divine Majesty."
In Rome, Italy, in 2000, Italian police broke up a ring of eleven top Russian Jewish gangsters. It was discovered that they had been kidnapping Gentile (non-Jewish) children between the ages of two and five from orphanages, raping them, and then murdering the children. These despicable crimes were recorded live on film and sold throughout the infamous global "snuff film" industry. Over 1,700 customers had paid as much as $20,000 per film to view little children being raped and murdered.
When Italian TV broadcast scenes of the arrests of the snuff film perverts at prime time to more than eleven million viewers, Jewish officials went berserk. Claiming "blood libel," they demanded that the Jewish elite who sat on the board of directors of the Italian TV network punish those responsible for allowing this news to surface. It was done. The TV executives were fired.
The main problem is the talmud. It is the guide for the approx. 2 million orthodox jews out of 13 million worldwide.
I imagine that the majority of jews just want to live in peace. BUT, if their [/u]elected leaders subscribe to the views laid out in the talmud, the electorate is not innocent.
The electorate has just put Bibi Netanyahu back in power. They have just resoundingly voted for more blood. They could have voted for more security but, since nobody can control the settlers, blood was all they could manage.
Part two follow, Dan
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Menachem Begin.
Well, OK, let's look at the language of some of israel's teachers;
,"Rabbi Schneerson bragged, "is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul...A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness."
When several of his students were accused of murdering a teenage Arab girl, Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg insisted: "Jewish blood is not the same as the blood of a (Gentile) goy." In other words, if a god-like Jew kills an inferior goy, how can that be murder?
Rabbi Schlomo Aviner adds that normal human codes and laws of justice and righteousness do not apply to the Jews.
Rabbi Chanina says that, "He who strikes an Israelite acts as if he slaps the face of God's Divine Majesty."
In Rome, Italy, in 2000, Italian police broke up a ring of eleven top Russian Jewish gangsters. It was discovered that they had been kidnapping Gentile (non-Jewish) children between the ages of two and five from orphanages, raping them, and then murdering the children. These despicable crimes were recorded live on film and sold throughout the infamous global "snuff film" industry. Over 1,700 customers had paid as much as $20,000 per film to view little children being raped and murdered.
When Italian TV broadcast scenes of the arrests of the snuff film perverts at prime time to more than eleven million viewers, Jewish officials went berserk. Claiming "blood libel," they demanded that the Jewish elite who sat on the board of directors of the Italian TV network punish those responsible for allowing this news to surface. It was done. The TV executives were fired.
The main problem is the talmud. It is the guide for the approx. 2 million orthodox jews out of 13 million worldwide.
I imagine that the majority of jews just want to live in peace. BUT, if their [/u]elected leaders subscribe to the views laid out in the talmud, the electorate is not innocent.
The electorate has just put Bibi Netanyahu back in power. They have just resoundingly voted for more blood. They could have voted for more security but, since nobody can control the settlers, blood was all they could manage.
Part two follow, Dan
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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Begin never said that--do some real research.can't sit still wrote:
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Menachem Begin.
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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It is debatable. I've done some research on someone that did some research on this and it does seem he just may have said this.jkisha wrote:Begin never said that--do some real research.can't sit still wrote:
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Menachem Begin.
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Ya and some radical minister said "God damn America" too, not all that long ago. There are always radicals in every religion or group. I notice that Rabbi Perin hasn't even rated a listing in the Wikipedia. I also noticed that there are a lot (A LOT) of misquoted or taken out of context "quotes" from Israelis on the Internet too. Lots of anti-Semites out there willing to say/believe anything that supports their position--true or not; which makes researching this topic extremely difficult--if you really care about the truth.can't sit still wrote:OK, if it's doubtful, let's delete that one.
Rabbi Perin: "A million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail"
Does this one sound less arrogant?
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I won't debate the innocence of israel with anyone. There is plenty of proof of ongoing ethnic cleansing. It's perfectly justified from a Darwinian point of view. I would hope that man can get beyond simple Darwinian driven extermination.
So, what does all this meant to the rest of the world? Why should we care what happens to the palestinians?
One must keep in mind that Israel and Jerusalem are the absolute centerpoints to Judaism. The jews and the land of Judea are inseperable. So, what have the jews done with their land? They've trashed it. They appear to have no respect for nature.
Some years ago, a bridge collapsed in Tel Aviv. Several athletes fell into the river. They died from the extreme toxicity of the river. The land of isreal is poisoned.
http://www.jewishveg.com/schwartz/enviroisrael.html
What does this have to do with the rest of the world? Like many cultures before it, the israelis need new land to survive. Israel is poisoned with toxic chemicals,,, now they've added depleted uranium.... no respect at all.
They have their eye on Iran. It's a good fertile land. But, like the proverbial land of milk and honey [Cannan], Iran is already full of people. Israel is adamant that it must destroy iran because of nuclear weapons.
Iran is loaded with Russian missiles that make it very hard to attack successfully. Should there big a big attack against Iran, they have huge stockpiles of bio-weapons. Israel doesn't seem to care about this. I do.
A bio-weapon retaliation by Iran will load the jet-stream with death. israel doesn't seem to have any respect for nature. They've even shit in their own nest. What will they do to the rest of the world?
So, what does all this meant to the rest of the world? Why should we care what happens to the palestinians?
One must keep in mind that Israel and Jerusalem are the absolute centerpoints to Judaism. The jews and the land of Judea are inseperable. So, what have the jews done with their land? They've trashed it. They appear to have no respect for nature.
Some years ago, a bridge collapsed in Tel Aviv. Several athletes fell into the river. They died from the extreme toxicity of the river. The land of isreal is poisoned.
http://www.jewishveg.com/schwartz/enviroisrael.html
What does this have to do with the rest of the world? Like many cultures before it, the israelis need new land to survive. Israel is poisoned with toxic chemicals,,, now they've added depleted uranium.... no respect at all.
They have their eye on Iran. It's a good fertile land. But, like the proverbial land of milk and honey [Cannan], Iran is already full of people. Israel is adamant that it must destroy iran because of nuclear weapons.
Iran is loaded with Russian missiles that make it very hard to attack successfully. Should there big a big attack against Iran, they have huge stockpiles of bio-weapons. Israel doesn't seem to care about this. I do.
A bio-weapon retaliation by Iran will load the jet-stream with death. israel doesn't seem to have any respect for nature. They've even shit in their own nest. What will they do to the rest of the world?
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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Protesters clash with police at Israel match
By GABRIEL GABIRO – 2 hours ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... QD96P7S7G4
MALMO, Sweden (AP) — Dozens of anti-Israel activists clashed with police Saturday as they tried to storm a closed arena where Sweden and Israel were playing a Davis Cup tennis match.
The activists hurled rocks and firecrackers at police vans as they tried to break through the barricades set up to keep protesters from the arena. Hundreds of riot police pushed them back using truncheons.
There were no immediate reports of injuries. At least five people were detained, police spokesman Lars Hakan Lindholm said.
The clashes erupted after about 7,000 people gathered at a square in downtown Malmo to hear speeches condemning Israel's offensive in Gaza and urging support for Palestinians.
Organizers of the "stop the match" protest had said the demonstration would be peaceful, but extreme-left activists had vowed to disrupt the match, which is being played without fans in Malmo.
Sweden's Left Party leader Lars Ohly told the crowd that the European Union and the rest of the world should "boycott the racist regime in Israel."
The protesters then marched toward the Baltic Hall arena, where some of them attacked the police line with eggs, rocks and firecrackers.
The doubles match between Sweden and Israel started as planned before about 300 special guests invited by the two countries' tennis federations.
About 1,000 police from southern Sweden were deployed in Malmo to keep the protesters from entering the arena.
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By GABRIEL GABIRO – 2 hours ago
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MALMO, Sweden (AP) — Dozens of anti-Israel activists clashed with police Saturday as they tried to storm a closed arena where Sweden and Israel were playing a Davis Cup tennis match.
The activists hurled rocks and firecrackers at police vans as they tried to break through the barricades set up to keep protesters from the arena. Hundreds of riot police pushed them back using truncheons.
There were no immediate reports of injuries. At least five people were detained, police spokesman Lars Hakan Lindholm said.
The clashes erupted after about 7,000 people gathered at a square in downtown Malmo to hear speeches condemning Israel's offensive in Gaza and urging support for Palestinians.
Organizers of the "stop the match" protest had said the demonstration would be peaceful, but extreme-left activists had vowed to disrupt the match, which is being played without fans in Malmo.
Sweden's Left Party leader Lars Ohly told the crowd that the European Union and the rest of the world should "boycott the racist regime in Israel."
The protesters then marched toward the Baltic Hall arena, where some of them attacked the police line with eggs, rocks and firecrackers.
The doubles match between Sweden and Israel started as planned before about 300 special guests invited by the two countries' tennis federations.
About 1,000 police from southern Sweden were deployed in Malmo to keep the protesters from entering the arena.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Israel accelerating Jerusalem seizures - EU report
Sat Mar 7, 2009 1:11pm EST
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandid ... USL7321631
JERUSALEM, March 7 (Reuters) - Israel accelerated its "illegal annexation" of East Jerusalem last year through municipal and security policies that discriminated against Palestinian residents, an EU report said.
The internal report by European diplomats, dated Dec. 15, 2008, was obtained by Reuters as fresh controversy simmered over Israel's plan to demolish scores of Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem, part of territory seized in the 1967 Middle East war.
The number of building tenders issued by Israel for Jewish homes in East Jerusalem increased by a factor of 40 in 2008 over 2007, the report said, while Israeli authorities placed "severe restrictions" on construction permits for Palestinians, who were also denied municipal funding proportionate to their population.
The report also criticised Israel for constructing a barrier that runs through Jerusalem, saying it cut off thousands of Palestinians from the occupied West Bank. Israel says the barrier keeps out suicide bombers and has vowed to complete the Jerusalem section by 2010.
The 20-page report acknowledged Israel's security needs but said its "actions in and around Jerusalem constitute one of the most acute challenges to Israeli-Palestinian peace-making".
Israel annexed East Jerusalem as its capital, a move not recognised internationally. Palestinians want to found a state in the West Bank and Gaza with its capital in East Jerusalem.
The Jerusalem municipality said last month it planned to demolish 88 Palestinian homes, though not immediately, that were built without permits in another section of Silwan, near the walls of Jerusalem's Old City, to create a public garden.
U.S. President Barack Obama has vowed to revive peacemaking and his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, who visited the region this week, called the planned demolitions "unhelpful".
Israeli officials deny there is a campaign to drive out Palestinians, who make up 34 percent of Jerusalem's population. (Editing by Dominic Evans)
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Sat Mar 7, 2009 1:11pm EST
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandid ... USL7321631
JERUSALEM, March 7 (Reuters) - Israel accelerated its "illegal annexation" of East Jerusalem last year through municipal and security policies that discriminated against Palestinian residents, an EU report said.
The internal report by European diplomats, dated Dec. 15, 2008, was obtained by Reuters as fresh controversy simmered over Israel's plan to demolish scores of Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem, part of territory seized in the 1967 Middle East war.
The number of building tenders issued by Israel for Jewish homes in East Jerusalem increased by a factor of 40 in 2008 over 2007, the report said, while Israeli authorities placed "severe restrictions" on construction permits for Palestinians, who were also denied municipal funding proportionate to their population.
The report also criticised Israel for constructing a barrier that runs through Jerusalem, saying it cut off thousands of Palestinians from the occupied West Bank. Israel says the barrier keeps out suicide bombers and has vowed to complete the Jerusalem section by 2010.
The 20-page report acknowledged Israel's security needs but said its "actions in and around Jerusalem constitute one of the most acute challenges to Israeli-Palestinian peace-making".
Israel annexed East Jerusalem as its capital, a move not recognised internationally. Palestinians want to found a state in the West Bank and Gaza with its capital in East Jerusalem.
The Jerusalem municipality said last month it planned to demolish 88 Palestinian homes, though not immediately, that were built without permits in another section of Silwan, near the walls of Jerusalem's Old City, to create a public garden.
U.S. President Barack Obama has vowed to revive peacemaking and his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, who visited the region this week, called the planned demolitions "unhelpful".
Israeli officials deny there is a campaign to drive out Palestinians, who make up 34 percent of Jerusalem's population. (Editing by Dominic Evans)
© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved
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