Original Burning Man logo graphic file(s) needed!
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Original Burning Man logo graphic file(s) needed!
My Playa gift for 2004 requires that I have an original piece of BM artwork in a graphics file format. I have some scans I made from various BM publications, but they didn't come out that well and I need something with clean, sharp lines and edges, with a minimum resolution of 300 dpi (more if I can get it). If you have one or know where I can get one (any of the various logos would be great), I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks in advance...
Thanks in advance...
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As this is not an uncommon request, mind letting our dear readers know the process by which you obtained permission, how & why you plan to use it, etc?
Sigh. Maybe I should stay out of the "I need" files.
Sigh. Maybe I should stay out of the "I need" files.
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Great Idea Bob
I too was coveting a file that I could use. I usually make stickers, t-shirt transfers and other various stuff. All for personal use or playa gifts.
It would be great if there were a couple of people who would post that we could contact them and make a request.
It would be great if there were a couple of people who would post that we could contact them and make a request.
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Ya'll might start by searching on "Copyright" on the main website and get back to us.
But as I've expressed in the past, my main objection is a philosophical one that has nothing to do with copyright, or whatever sense it might make to leave the use of the stick figure logo to Burning Man's own volunteer groups. I just feel sad that people don't feel motivated enough to identify with and create their own original work, to express what they and their friends might be doing and creating in this wide world independent of Burning Man. Much of the souvenirs and theme camp swag that have popped up in recent years stamped with the likeness of the Man remind me of all the commercial crap you'd see at a Dead concert or a roadster show.
But as I've expressed in the past, my main objection is a philosophical one that has nothing to do with copyright, or whatever sense it might make to leave the use of the stick figure logo to Burning Man's own volunteer groups. I just feel sad that people don't feel motivated enough to identify with and create their own original work, to express what they and their friends might be doing and creating in this wide world independent of Burning Man. Much of the souvenirs and theme camp swag that have popped up in recent years stamped with the likeness of the Man remind me of all the commercial crap you'd see at a Dead concert or a roadster show.
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Which is in part one of the VERY reasons that use of the logo is limited even within BM by members of the various volunteer groups.Much of the souvenirs and theme camp swag that have popped up in recent years stamped with the likeness of the Man remind me of all the commercial crap you'd see at a Dead concert or a roadster show.
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>>Much of the souvenirs and theme camp swag that have popped up in recent years stamped with the likeness of the Man remind me of all the commercial crap you'd see at a Dead concert or a roadster show.
While I see your point, I think it only logical that souviniers of the event have some major event markings on them.
Perhaps if I had a theme camp, I might put some image/logo of that on my "schwag" that I give away. But I don't. I'm there for Burning Man--why should I not put that image on there (I'm not referring to copyright infringement here, but "artisitc" sensibilities)?
While I see your point, I think it only logical that souviniers of the event have some major event markings on them.
Perhaps if I had a theme camp, I might put some image/logo of that on my "schwag" that I give away. But I don't. I'm there for Burning Man--why should I not put that image on there (I'm not referring to copyright infringement here, but "artisitc" sensibilities)?
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Re: the spirit of originality, I have no problem with parody (eg newpapers & broadsides by BigRig, Piss Clear et al), which coincidently constitutes fair use, AFAIK.
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Could be, but couldn't it end up looking a lot like all that trite Dead paraphernalia you still find @ all the head shops, Phish concerts, etc.? How many legitimate artistic takes can you do on a skull, teddy bear, rainbow, happy face, stick figure, etc.?Ivy wrote:Just becuase something carries the logo doesn't mean it's not original. perhaps it's a new medium, or a new way of interpreting the logo.
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I don't know--I don't spend my time in head shops or around Gratefud Dead paraphenalia, so I don't know the extent to which it's been manipulated. I'm sure it's quite a lot, though.
You say there's only so much that can be done with an image. Of course that's true. But that's true of everything--there's only so much you can do with painintg, with clothing design, with msuic, with writing. There are, after all, only two plots in literature--but yet there are many many moer than 2 pieces of literature in the universe. Some of them are even good. Some of them are even original takes on an old, time-worn idea.
Just because something's not 100% original doesn't mean it's not good--and the opposite is true, too. I've seen a lot of shit at BM itself, without any images of the man or logos of the city that are just pure crap.
>>couldn't it end up looking a lot like all that trite Dead paraphernalia
Sure it could. But there's also a possibly that it couldn't. Why not let the artist take the chance? If you don't like their swag, don't take it. A simlpe polite "no thank you" has always worked for me.
You say there's only so much that can be done with an image. Of course that's true. But that's true of everything--there's only so much you can do with painintg, with clothing design, with msuic, with writing. There are, after all, only two plots in literature--but yet there are many many moer than 2 pieces of literature in the universe. Some of them are even good. Some of them are even original takes on an old, time-worn idea.
Just because something's not 100% original doesn't mean it's not good--and the opposite is true, too. I've seen a lot of shit at BM itself, without any images of the man or logos of the city that are just pure crap.
>>couldn't it end up looking a lot like all that trite Dead paraphernalia
Sure it could. But there's also a possibly that it couldn't. Why not let the artist take the chance? If you don't like their swag, don't take it. A simlpe polite "no thank you" has always worked for me.
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I'd rather see originality and self-motivation proliferate than a culture focused the prefab, twice removed.Ivy wrote:...Why not let the artist take the chance? If you don't like their swag, don't take it. A simlpe polite "no thank you" has always worked for me.
And "No thank you!" doesn't generally work when everybody's gone home and you're picking up sacks full of itsy bitsy trace swag that people left behind, which can be even more galling when it bears an "official" logo.
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