The Afghanistan Taliban war moves into pakistan

[Apollonaris Zeus]

The war against the Taliban will be moving into Pakistan! We can't allow the Taliban to overtake the country and the neuclear weapons.

Meanwhile, the Pakistani Army sits along India thinking they are their worst problem.

How soon you think before we enter the situation?

AIIZ

[chiefdanfox]

We have already entered this situation. We have been sending missiles (a la Clintonistas) into Pak for awhile. Best thing we could do is pull out, and aim our entire ballistic arsenal at the region, and say, "If any nuclear weapon detonates on US soil, regardless of origin, we will annihilate the entire region." Same cold war tactics, different area. Why is this so hard? They have about 100 nukes, and kinda shitty nukes. We have thousands, all top notch.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Those rockets will need to be taken out if it looks as if the Taliban will take control of the country. Then we will physically enter troops into the state.

The Taliban will have to go!

We will give them the Jericho treatment!

AIIZ

[Elderberry]

We have already entered this situation. We have been sending missiles (a la Clintonistas) into Pak for awhile. Best thing we could do is pull out, and aim our entire ballistic arsenal at the region, and say, "If any nuclear weapon detonates on US soil, regardless of origin, we will annihilate the entire region." Same cold war tactics, different area. Why is this so hard? They have about 100 nukes, and kinda shitty nukes. We have thousands, all top notch.

It does sound simple, doesn't it?

JK

[Ugly Dougly]

We have already entered this situation. We have been sending missiles (a la Clintonistas) into Pak for awhile. Best thing we could do is pull out, and aim our entire ballistic arsenal at the region, and say, "If any nuclear weapon detonates on US soil, regardless of origin, we will annihilate the entire region." Same cold war tactics, different area. Why is this so hard? They have about 100 nukes, and kinda shitty nukes. We have thousands, all top notch.

Umm, maybe they would look forward to the opportunity to enter paradise this way.

Nukes are mostly used as deterrents, or as strategic threats. Notice how we treat countries with nuke capabilities versus those without.

It's a most sticky wicket indeed. My favorite idea is to finance the building of Islamic madrassas in Afghanistan, stipulating that all staff and currriculum follow a moderate path. Al Qaeda and the Taliban is intermingled with the roots of Afghan and Paki society right now, and bombs won't change that.

Somebody need to think outside the box.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Nukes are mostly used as deterrents, or as strategic threats. Notice how wtreat countries with nuke capabilities versus those without.

Al Qaeda and the Taliban is intermingled with the roots of Afghan and Paki society right now, and bombs won't change that.

first, do you think that the Taliban would use them as a deterrent? Or figure a way to make a portable bomb? Sell them? Or fire them at India or Israel? I trust Iran not to use them on their rhetorical propaganda, but the Taliban has harbored terrorists that do export their aggressions.

As far as Afghanistan or Pakistan accepting their Sharia rule, that I do not believe. They force themselves upon those area they rule. Who will voice their opposition against those that will kill them and their family. The Germans did not voice their’s against the Nazis- did they?

AIIZ

[searock420]

The Pakistanis have entered into a "truce" with the Taliban.
Let them suffer the consequences of their decisions
Not our children

[Apollonaris Zeus]

The Pakistanis have entered into a "truce" with the Taliban.
Let them suffer the consequences of their decisions
Not our children

do really think that another 9/11 won't happen with the taliban back in power? Look at those fuckers. Look at what they do to their women. How they deal with rights.

the CIA has aready shipped The new Swine Flu viruses on drones into the region.

The shipment was smuggled through the mexican border, but the container was compramised by a mexican that thought there was drugs in it to be stolen. the package was delieved to its destination on a drone two days ago.

I think the Pakistani army is looking that this invasion as a new excuse to retake the government and declare marshall law once again.

Pakistani can never expected to be a true democracy with radical Islam or Islam in general. Democracy is just a short term transition to Marshall Army Rule.

They like their women young and dumb

AIIZ

[Elderberry]

The Pakistanis have entered into a "truce" with the Taliban.
Let them suffer the consequences of their decisions
Not our children

do really think that another 9/11 won't happen with the taliban back in power? Look at those fuckers. Look at what they do to their women. How they deal with rights.

the CIA has aready shipped The new Swine Flu viruses on drones into the region.

The shipment was smuggled through the mexican border, but the container was compramised by a mexican that thought there was drugs in it to be stolen. the package was delieved to its destination on a drone two days ago.

I think the Pakistani army is looking that this invasion as a new excuse to retake the government and declare marshall law once again.

Pakistani can never expected to be a true democracy with radical Islam or Islam in general. Democracy is just a short term transition to Marshall Army Rule.

They like their women young and dumb

AIIZ

Talk about conspiracy theories...you've really gone over the deep end with this one.

JK

[ygmir]

The Pakistanis have entered into a "truce" with the Taliban.
Let them suffer the consequences of their decisions
Not our children

do really think that another 9/11 won't happen with the taliban back in power? Look at those fuckers. Look at what they do to their women. How they deal with rights.

the CIA has aready shipped The new Swine Flu viruses on drones into the region.

The shipment was smuggled through the mexican border, but the container was compramised by a mexican that thought there was drugs in it to be stolen. the package was delieved to its destination on a drone two days ago.

I think the Pakistani army is looking that this invasion as a new excuse to retake the government and declare marshall law once again.

Pakistani can never expected to be a true democracy with radical Islam or Islam in general. Democracy is just a short term transition to Marshall Army Rule.

They like their women young and dumb

AIIZ

Talk about conspiracy theories...you've really gone over the deep end with this one.

JK

I love conspiracy theories.......really a mind excersize.....and, I think quite often, accurate........remeber the term "plausible deniability"............
a lot of folks accept denials, just because there is no "hard evidence" to prove it..........(O.J.)...........

[Apollonaris Zeus]

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[Monkeypoo]

I am so grateful my younger brother David is home again and no longer in Afghanistan. He's happily living his dream in Montana, back in school in his medical career, taking guys/chics out on fishing/hunting trips, sending me pics of a blue sky I remember once seeing over a meadow of wildflowers long ago. May the Universe of Love continue to watch over and bless our troups and bring them home soon.

Our troops in Afghanistan prove yet again they have retained their sense of humor. One of them sent this:

"YOU MAY BE A TALIBAN IF......."
1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor.
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun, and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes.
3. You have more wives than teeth.
4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon "unclean."
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against.
7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least two or three.
10. You've always had a crush on your neighbor's goat.

[geekster]

They don't have the whole Westphalian sovereignty experience behind them so their idea of a nation state is quite different than ours is. Part of the problem is we keep trying to draq their reality into our concept of nationhood. For example, the tribes agreed to stop growing poppies in Pakistan in exchange for Western (mostly US) cash payments to compensate them for the loss of income. They promptly moved cultivation across the Durand line into their tribal territory that lies in Afghanistan. So they produce just as much heroin as before but get twice the money for it. In fact, heroin production and non-cultivation payments combined are possibly larger than the entire legitimate GDP of the nation of Pakistan.

One thing this war is about is the global heroin supply. There are a lot of very powerful people with a lot of money who can afford to buy a lot of politicians. Once the heroin supply is sufficiently at risk, you will see all sorts of politicians suddenly against further action there. The UN will probably be first as they seem to be most susceptible to graft as that is the normal political culture in much of the world.

The mob will begin paying (or threaten not to pay) politicians in order to influence agitation to stop military actions against the tribes that straddle that border region if their income from the heroin is placed at risk.

But the entire problem is much more complicated than that. First you need to create the concept of "Afghanistan" or "Pakistan" in the minds of people who are used to thinking of themselves mainly as Pashtun and think that the Durand line is just a mark some silly Brit made on a piece of paper. That isn't going to be easy and might not be possible at all. These tribes aren't going to take well to having their territory cut and a tribal leader who happens to live on one side of the line or the other isn't going to take to having his territory diced up by outsiders. And the Pashtun are only one such people whose territory spans the border.

This is going to be a problem that takes at least three generations to fix. It isn't going to happen in one or two US election cycles.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Legalize Heroin and put the money in American farmers

Buy American!