HOW CAN WE CREATE A CAMP when we come by plane ?

tontonyannos · Post by **tontonyannos** » Tue May 19, 2009 1:32 am

we're 2 friends living in Tahiti , virgin burners. the only solution for us is to join a camp, don't you think so ?

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:02 am

No, not really.

You 'create' a camp by setting up your tent. It's really that simple.

lemur · Post by **lemur** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:44 am

no i dont think so....

even if you are joining a camp, odds are youre still gonna need nearly all of the same stuff that youd need if you were to go it alone anyways...

tontonyannos · Post by **tontonyannos** » Tue May 19, 2009 8:43 am

[quote="Sensei"]No, not really.

You 'create' a camp by setting up your tent. It's really that simple.[/quote]

what I wanted to say is that's not so easy to bring a lot of stuff with us by plane

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:12 am

Lots of overseas types - Aussies, Kiwis, various Euro-trash (I've lost count of how many crazy Irish I've met out there, god bless 'em) - have the same problem. Heck, plenty of Yanks fly in from the east coast or Hawaii and they're up against the same.

Obviously, you're not going to fly your water over from Tahiti. That would be, um, cost prohibitive.

Either start shipping stuff to a friend here now or plan to spend lots of time shopping once you arrive. Don't worry, every single one of us pays out the freakin' nose to attend this hellish excercise in survival (no, I'm not kidding). You'll get used to it.

If you're looking to join a large theme camp - and this will absofuckinglutely require either $$$ or serious labor and sometimes both - the action here on the board will start heating up shortly. Keep in mind what the Lemur said, you're still going to need to bring a lot of 'stuff'. Like booze for your newfound friends, for instance. Please and thank you.

BTW - I'm a 8-time solo camper and wouldn't have it any other way.

Good luck and see you there!

RedheadBarbie · Post by **RedheadBarbie** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:17 am

Bring the plane...Twin Towers Camp.

Sorry to anyone who is offended.

tontonyannos · Post by **tontonyannos** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:29 am

thank you for your advices , Sensei , and the picture of this minimalist camp
see you
[quote="Sensei"]Lots of overseas types - Aussies, Kiwis, various Euro-trash (I've lost count of how many crazy Irish I've met out there, god bless 'em) - have the same problem. Heck, plenty of Yanks fly in from the east coast or Hawaii and they're up against the same.

Obviously, you're not going to fly your water over from Tahiti. That would be, um, cost prohibitive.

Either start shipping stuff to a friend here now or plan to spend lots of time shopping once you arrive. Don't worry, every single one of us pays out the freakin' nose to attend this hellish excercise in survival (no, I'm not kidding). You'll get used to it.

If you're looking to join a large theme camp - and this will absofuckinglutely require either $$$ or serious labor and sometimes both - the action here on the board will start heating up shortly. Keep in mind what the Lemur said, you're still going to need to bring a lot of 'stuff'. Like booze for your newfound friends, for instance. Please and thank you.

BTW - I'm a 8-time solo camper and wouldn't have it any other way.

[img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/T ... 006002.jpg[/img]

Good luck and see you there![/quote]

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:09 am

tontonyannos wrote:thank you for your advices , Sensei , and the picture of this minimalist camp

MINIMALIST CAMP!!! Of all the... Why, you... How dare...

That ain't no minimalist camp, you impudent foreigner! THAT'S MY HOME!

Horace · Post by **Horace** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:38 am

tontonyannos wrote:thank you for your advices , Sensei , and the picture of this minimalist camp

hahahahaha

I'll be wondering if that was snark, bad humour or cute innocence for a looong time =D

Marscrumbs · Post by **Marscrumbs** » Tue May 19, 2009 11:46 am

I thought the airport was it's own themecamp.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Tue May 19, 2009 2:21 pm

Horace wrote:
tontonyannos wrote:thank you for your advices , Sensei , and the picture of this minimalist camp
hahahahaha

I'll be wondering if that was snark, bad humour or cute innocence for a looong time =D

snark?: yes

bad humor?: No, good humor, and heres the proof

cute innocence?: Oh most def not (see snark)

tontonyannos · Post by **tontonyannos** » Tue May 19, 2009 8:14 pm

excuse me sensei, I didn't want to upset you but my english is minimalist too
I apreciate your advices
I will bring you the polynesian flag to add it to your home

[quote="Sensei"][quote="tontonyannos"]thank you for your advices , Sensei , and the picture of this minimalist camp[/quote]

MINIMALIST CAMP!!! Of all the... Why, you... How dare...

That ain't no minimalist camp, you impudent foreigner! THAT'S MY HOME![/quote]

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:14 pm

tontonyannos wrote:thank you for your advices , Sensei , and the picture of this minimalist camp
see you
Sensei wrote:Lots of overseas types - Aussies, Kiwis, various Euro-trash (I've lost count of how many crazy Irish I've met out there, god bless 'em) - have the same problem. Heck, plenty of Yanks fly in from the east coast or Hawaii and they're up against the same.

Obviously, you're not going to fly your water over from Tahiti. That would be, um, cost prohibitive.

No, they're cleverly going to get good old Polynesian water by buying Fiji when they get here.

(That s so fucking sick.)

Anti-Hero · Post by **Anti-Hero** » Sat May 23, 2009 9:34 pm

I need to ask you.... how do you get to live in tahiti? like seriously?

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat May 23, 2009 10:21 pm

Anti-Hero wrote:I need to ask you.... how do you get to live in tahiti? like seriously?

Someone has to live there.

Tahiti is one of those places where you could be a working stiff in a bar or something and have a more awesome life than 99 percent of planet.

South Florida is like Tahiti in some ways except it sucks in most other ways.

All you really need is a tent, camelbak, and some other essentials. I managed to fit all my basics in 2 duffels. I wasn't comfy but I had what I needed. I went with just enough in many ways.. medical for one only had a dozen various bandaids and smaller size antibiotics and such. I got alot of the food n such in Reno along with the cooler. I had my own themecamp unregistered too.. homeless camp.. it sucked and was really hard but I leanred alot about myself and what I can live through.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun May 24, 2009 8:58 am

Toolmaker wrote:
Anti-Hero wrote:I need to ask you.... how do you get to live in tahiti? like seriously?
Someone has to live there.

Tahiti is one of those places where you could be a working stiff in a bar or something and have a more awesome life than 99 percent of planet.

I'm not sure about that. Much of Oceania is poor (which may or may not be important to any one individual) and isolated. I realize that Saipan isn't really one of these edens, but I'm glad I don't live in a place where I have to boil the drinking water that comes out of the tap. Okay, they haven't had to in about five years--but 2004? In the United States? The thing with Hawai'ians and Spam isn't just about pig flesh--it's also about being in the middle of the Pacific and needing food that didn't go bad between the voyages of supply ships--or on them. And the south sea islands have a lot of open dumps, wwii detritus lieing around, and other drawbacks. I get the feeling that living on Pitcarn is like living in any other incestious village--only you can't walk away. I'm sure some would and do thrive, others--not so much.

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:10 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
Toolmaker wrote:
Anti-Hero wrote:I need to ask you.... how do you get to live in tahiti? like seriously?
Someone has to live there.

Tahiti is one of those places where you could be a working stiff in a bar or something and have a more awesome life than 99 percent of planet.
I'm not sure about that. Much of Oceania is poor (which may or may not be important to any one individual) and isolated. I realize that Saipan isn't really one of these edens, but I'm glad I don't live in a place where I have to boil the drinking water that comes out of the tap. Okay, they haven't had to in about five years--but 2004? In the United States? The thing with Hawai'ians and Spam isn't just about pig flesh--it's also about being in the middle of the Pacific and needing food that didn't go bad between the voyages of supply ships--or on them. And the south sea islands have a lot of open dumps, wwii detritus lieing around, and other drawbacks. I get the feeling that living on Pitcarn is like living in any other incestious village--only you can't walk away. I'm sure some would and do thrive, others--not so much.

* walks out of room cause I don't have anything to say after that....*

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun May 24, 2009 9:18 am

"no matter where you go, there you are..."

very true Fishy, but i think there is something to be said for environmental factors playing a big part in one's personality and general well being.

i believe the surroundings affect and influence the behavior as well as shape the local flavor of the population.

for example, northern nevadans are dry and crusty.

southern californians are sunny and tan and dying of cancer while sitting on a geological timebomb. absolute denial.

northern californians are robust, varied, and spoiled by their abundance and are often oblivious to how good they have it even though they too share the same underground menace as LA. They tend to be more tolerant of variety, but in an almost condescending manner, that goes unnoticed amongst themselves, but is evident to anyone else.

midwesterners tend to be solid, and incredibly dull.....but solid.

now I on the otherhand, having spent most of my life in the great frigid rust belt that extends from syracuse to gary, indiana, know all to well what disintegration and decay, as well as cold stony irony are all about.

the bitterness of the soil leaches into our bodies like the love canal....the grey skies clouds our souls....the snow buries our dreams in a not so white blanket of despair, and hence, this is why we are the way we are.

i would'nt mind a chance to try out this whole island scene, even if it is deliverance with pineapple...i wonder how they say "squeal like a pig" in tongan..,.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sun May 24, 2009 10:03 am

ibdave wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
Toolmaker wrote: Someone has to live there.

Tahiti is one of those places where you could be a working stiff in a bar or something and have a more awesome life than 99 percent of planet.
I'm not sure about that. Much of Oceania is poor (which may or may not be important to any one individual) and isolated. I realize that Saipan isn't really one of these edens, but I'm glad I don't live in a place where I have to boil the drinking water that comes out of the tap. Okay, they haven't had to in about five years--but 2004? In the United States? The thing with Hawai'ians and Spam isn't just about pig flesh--it's also about being in the middle of the Pacific and needing food that didn't go bad between the voyages of supply ships--or on them. And the south sea islands have a lot of open dumps, wwii detritus lieing around, and other drawbacks. I get the feeling that living on Pitcarn is like living in any other incestious village--only you can't walk away. I'm sure some would and do thrive, others--not so much.
* walks out of room cause I don't have anything to say after that....*

I do!

They say incest is best!

But seriously.. just because someone is poor doesn't mean they can't be happy. I'd be willing to give up standard of living and wait on tourists to be able to swim around this..

And dress like this fellow all the time..

Sometimes I yearn for a simpler yet sometimes harder life. Boiling or distilling water isn't so bad. At least you'd know it was good to drink.

Barbie · Post by **Barbie** » Sun May 24, 2009 6:09 pm

Yea I was swimming in water that looks like that just the other day & dress like that !! LOL ANd I'am poor in money ( I sell natural color & luster Tahitian Black Pearls) BUT rich IN Love! & SUnshine!!! AND IT SUCKS to have to try to have to fit all your stuff in two suitcases!!! Sooo I'm lucky and have a Burner Attic ( use to be shed) in Seattle!!

klondike_bar · Post by **klondike_bar** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:12 pm

In my opinion, if you live on an island like that and have access to both the internet and the funds required for burningman, youve probably got a pretty nice lifestyle

yoyo_cad · Post by **yoyo_cad** » Mon May 25, 2009 12:22 am

Bonjour Ã tous,

Alors kes vous faites tous ? on vous demande pas comment c'est chez nous ? Nous, on le sait, on y habites. On vous demande quel est le meilleur moyen de participer

Hello everybody,
sorry, my english is minimalist too.
i'm the second guy who live in Tahiti and who will travel with TontonYannos to BM.
Thank you for your comment about our country but we just want to know the best way to participate, please.

is this very hard to make a self-camp ?

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Mon May 25, 2009 9:31 am

I'll be flying the Fiji flag and the Savusavu yacht club pennon, I think I also have an old U.N. Flag... South Pacific is a great lifestyle, but a heartbreaker for some to make work. I lived in Fiji for a few years, have some "someday land", but financially it just didn't work. It's true you can live day to day without a lot of cost (I'm speaking of my experience in Fiji), away from a lot of needless consumer stuff, but if you have a serious medical situation, you will most likely need to take a plane, and have resources to stay where you go for care. That is a deal breaker for many. and oh yeah... the coups.

I miss the work day REALLY ending at 5:00, (total shut down, no commerce after that) and saying hello to everyone on the road. Sitting around telling stories and never being rushed. I got used to being called a "European."

Anyhow. There are a lot of folks camping with a car, a tent, and a tarp between the two for shade. Solo is a fine way to do Burning Man. I look at all the stuff I took that I never used, and make the cuts.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon May 25, 2009 9:32 am

You can have a basic camp yourself or you can search for a camp to join. Joining a camp from far away is not so simple, and many of the solo camps are full already (snowflake village, stag camp). You could buy your supplies once you hit Reno, many people do. Do you know how to pitch a tent? What type of food are you willing to eat? Can you last a week without a shower?

There are also villages such as Hushville, you must bring your own camp, but you will have neighbors to lend a hand.

Tell us about what you're envisioning, and that will help with the answers.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:36 am

Go here:

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 867#461867

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:35 am

This option came to mind:

Oldguy · Post by **Oldguy** » Tue May 26, 2009 12:47 pm

That looks familiar, kinda like last years airport parking area. One pilot hit a Playa snake, broke his landing gear. A prop strike in the dust broke his motor. They ended up chopping it into pieces and hauling it off on a truck. We pushed and pulled aircraft into parking position, I was a first year Intercepter last year.

I got to see another pilot stall on takeoff. Either his plane was out of balance, or he pulled up instead of dropping his nose to gather speed on takeoff. Density alltitude can be a killer out there. At 4,000 feet altitude, a 100 plus day can raise density altitude to over 7,000 feet. There's an old saying at South lake Tahoe that they fly in in the morning and crash in the afternoon. Air at temperature thins out, and you lose lift.

The bush pilots that fly into Blackrock City are very, very talented...

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Tue May 26, 2009 2:05 pm

Oldguy wrote:That looks familiar, kinda like last years airport parking area. One pilot hit a Playa snake, broke his landing gear. A prop strike in the dust broke his motor. They ended up chopping it into pieces and hauling it off on a truck. We pushed and pulled aircraft into parking position, I was a first year Intercepter last year.

I got to see another pilot stall on takeoff. Either his plane was out of balance, or he pulled up instead of dropping his nose to gather speed on takeoff. Density alltitude can be a killer out there. At 4,000 feet altitude, a 100 plus day can raise density altitude to over 7,000 feet. There's an old saying at South lake Tahoe that they fly in in the morning and crash in the afternoon. Air at temperature thins out, and you lose lift.

The bush pilots that fly into Blackrock City are very, very talented...

fawk thats rough..

Is it just as bad with ultralight takeoff and landing? How many problems do paraplane and paraglider folk have? I know one has smaller wheels that might really get buggered by a playa snake. But what about the motor on yer back? Is it a real pain to get in the air and land?

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dragonpilot · Post by **dragonpilot** » Thu May 28, 2009 4:05 pm

Oldguy wrote: There's an old saying at South lake Tahoe that they fly in in the morning and crash in the afternoon.

That's a saying we used to use when I flew Hueys in Vietnam in the late '60s. Crews would takeoff early morning in a fully loaded gunship (Charlie model, usually) to a mission site, get scrambled early afternoon and fly right into the palm trees...that was in the days before we paid much attention to weight and balance/DA...then it was "If it hovers, it'll fly."

HOW CAN WE CREATE A CAMP when we come by plane ?

HOW CAN WE CREATE A CAMP when we come by plane ?

Hello Tonton