What's a Palin

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:27 pm

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Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:04 pm

I love it! those republican Limbaugh controlled asses are making her to be their messiah along with Joe Blow Plumber. they have really lost any connection to the american public. Like an advertising agency controlled by some misguided pollster. They don't have a clue of what the pulse of america is.

They got a black man, they got a woman, we gotta get one, me mean two as well!

Tell her hunting wolfs from a airplane or heli is not fucking hunting its culling and its not a sport or anything related to sportsmanship.

I give more credit to gopher killers

AIIZ

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:37 pm

letterman should get a nugh in the nut for even mentioning that hillbilly.. Did she rip the state for her family trip to a base ball game? She looking for a new grand kid? Who's watching that little whore they left at home? Bet she was out flatbacking it..

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:16 pm

Did anyone know palin was actually a governor of a state?
I always thought that was a snl joke.
Who the hell would vote for her?
I always thought alaskans were smarter than that.

Reality is bleeding in around the edges.

We should move up there.
They would make us emperor in five years.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:27 pm

She's out here doing some political meetings and dinners. I think Ghoulliani invited her as his guest to Yank Stadium. As far as I know, she hasn't been in Alaska very much, but I don't know what kind schedule her legislature is on. I know Montana is in session every other year. Saves us alot of money not having to pay them.

AIIZ

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:54 pm

unjonharley wrote:letterman should get a nugh in the nut for even mentioning that hillbilly.. Did she rip the state for her family trip to a base ball game? She looking for a new grand kid? Who's watching that little whore they left at home? Bet she was out flatbacking it..

wow, you're sour............

a lot of you guys are like dogs with old bones.......Jeeze, get over it..........
Who the fuck cares, how do you know her, why bother with dredging up old shit that matters not at all.........

egad.........

I'll be waiting for you to start bitching about Nixon........... Eisenhower, maybe Lincoln, oh yeah, he went to war to end slavery.........not at all..........

They're politicians, mostly, non worth the powder to blow them to hell...........
you think "your person" is the best.........grin.....well, not everyone agrees.....so what?

I bet you could pile the shit head reps and dems on a balance scale and it'd be dead even............

why zero in on one person, and, their kids?

turds............

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:04 pm

You better be interested since we keep paying the price for what they did in the past.

Eisenhower keeps looking better as we learn more about him though.

Nixon managed to keep most of his crimes a secret, and we still pay for letting him go.

If you don't think there's a connection between politicians that skate and crime rates....

With all our politicians, you don't find palin as governor of an actual state still astounding?
I thought she was a dog catcher or something.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:06 pm

gyre wrote:You better be interested since we keep paying the price for what they did in the past.

and, in a general sense, I agree......my beef is that you only focus on a certain party, and, even individuals to "watch"

Eisenhower keeps looking better as we learn more about him though.

Nixon managed to keep most of his crimes a secret, and we still pay for letting him go.

How do we "pay" for letting him go? And, do you think his crimes are unique, or more severe, than any others who may not have been caught?

If you don't think there's a connection between politicians that skate and crime rates....

I'm good with holding "all" politicians accountable and under scrutiny, again, I just don't see them all painted with the same brush.

With all our politicians, you don't find palin as governor of an actual state still astounding?

no. and, no more so than governor moonbeam, gray davis, Ann Richards of Texas, Jesse Ventura, I'm sure there are plenty of examples........

I thought she was a dog catcher or something.

good, on point and cogent statement there, that'll take the discussion forward....

I'm no particular fan of hers.
I get annoyed with people who can't be even handed in their criticism of politicians, and, wear blinders due to party affiliations..........

I think they're all bums.........not seen hardly any I like and, back when I did like some, now, I regret that, as well.........they can't be trusted.
IMHO.
they all lie, cheat, and steal. Perhaps different modus operandi, perhaps differing venues, but, to me, all the same. Two sides of the same wooden nickel.

no, I'm not cynical..........grin......

Oldguy · Post by **Oldguy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:43 pm

Yes, the P-girl was there by request from the G-man. He's running against the O-man next time. He's well aware of what the NYC tabloid press can do. He's very shrewd.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:55 pm

ygmir wrote:
gyre wrote:You better be interested since we keep paying the price for what they did in the past.

and, in a general sense, I agree......my beef is that you only focus on a certain party, and, even individuals to "watch"

Eisenhower keeps looking better as we learn more about him though.

Nixon managed to keep most of his crimes a secret, and we still pay for letting him go.

How do we "pay" for letting him go? And, do you think his crimes are unique, or more severe, than any others who may not have been caught?

If you don't think there's a connection between politicians that skate and crime rates....

I'm good with holding "all" politicians accountable and under scrutiny, again, I just don't see them all painted with the same brush.

With all our politicians, you don't find palin as governor of an actual state still astounding?

no. and, no more so than governor moonbeam, gray davis, Ann Richards of Texas, Jesse Ventura, I'm sure there are plenty of examples........

I thought she was a dog catcher or something.

good, on point and cogent statement there, that'll take the discussion forward....

I'm no particular fan of hers.
I get annoyed with people who can't be even handed in their criticism of politicians, and, wear blinders due to party affiliations..........

I think they're all bums.........not seen hardly any I like and, back when I did like some, now, I regret that, as well.........they can't be trusted.
IMHO.
they all lie, cheat, and steal. Perhaps different modus operandi, perhaps differing venues, but, to me, all the same. Two sides of the same wooden nickel.

no, I'm not cynical..........grin......

I can't write anything because I'm too busy trying to figure out how to quote your response in your quote of mine....

Nixon- could go on forever about the cost of sweeping him under the rug.
It never works.
The cynicism expressed is part of the cost and only the start.
We know enough about what he did to suspect much more.
Politicians always talk about moving on- a sure way to guarantee it can't happen.

Do I find a difference in parties, however cynical I am?
I've read the agendas, so yes.
There is a reason terrorism is associated with only one party.
There is a reason Reagan rejected the republican platform one year because it was not only nuts, it was criminal in nature.
The latest "Real republicans support and advocate torture and an end to constitutional rights" is only the real message with the bullshit scraped off.

They aren't that shy about it.

Unethical feinstein and unethical mugabe?
I see differences.

We had another terrorist act at planned parenthood here yesterday.
Abortion has been eliminated as a safe choice for the majority of americans by the campaign of the christian taliban.
And one party continues to embrace that segment.

I'm trying to think of the last democratic party activity that involved blocking access to a hospital.
Take a close look at the results in south america where often medical care is denied after an abortion.
And priests brag about the deserved deaths.
That's what many people want here.

As for general corruption, I have mentioned the Seattle? paper that linked donations to laws passed.
It crosses over to criminal bribery.
And involves all parties and all states.
Fantastic journalism in this time.

Last I heard no indictments.
No changes.

I'm still astounded that palin is a governor.
I'm glad she's taking her act on the road.

Have I mentioned our mayor here?
Convicted of civil rights violations in office, re-elected.
Recently put his drug dealing gang buddy in charge of the rape crisis center.
They recently turned away victims for lack of staff.
Now he says he will run for senator against a long incumbent.
We'll see if people here are as stupid as they have been voting.

He's a democrat, by the way, though no one will admit it including him.

He makes gov Arnold look like a genius, or at least someone not using cocaine twice a day.

So we have stupid voters, but palin would lose here against politicians already convicted of corruption in office.
Maybe her competition is weaker?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:06 pm

I should know better...................

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:18 pm

Am I unfair to her?
If the vote is fair, she must be making someone happy.

But putting yourself forward as a potential future president, is to ask for a referendum by the nation, about yourself.
She can't whine about getting her wish.

..To be literally the best of all the nation, that can be put forward...

That would be enough for many people, to get that far.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:39 am

gyre wrote: We had another terrorist act at planned parenthood here yesterday.
Abortion has been eliminated as a safe choice for the majority of americans by the campaign of the christian taliban.
And one party continues to embrace that segment.

I'm trying to think of the last democratic party activity that involved blocking access to a hospital.
Take a close look at the results in south america where often medical care is denied after an abortion.
And priests brag about the deserved deaths.
That's what many people want here.

i know a lot of pro-life christians, gyre.

the people who support killing abortion doctors and bombing planned parenthood is a very small fringe, and they are NOT supported by the republican party. this sort of thing infuriates them because it hurts their cause .... people like you use such incidents to condemn their argument, not because it's accurate to label them all as murderers, but because it is easy.

and now, science has pretty much destroyed the original "it's not human" argument that roe v. wade was based on... what's left? convenience... wanted babies vs. unwanted babies... an argument that can, and will go beyond the unborn. we already have one person on this site suggesting it is OK to use the poor for medical experiments.... the elderly are another possible contender for mass murder ...

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:09 am

littleflower wrote:
i know a lot of pro-life christians, gyre.

the people who support killing abortion doctors and bombing planned parenthood is a very small fringe, and they are NOT supported by the republican party. this sort of thing infuriates them because it hurts their cause .... people like you use such incidents to condemn their argument, not because it's accurate to label them all as murderers, but because it is easy.

and now, science has pretty much destroyed the original "it's not human" argument that roe v. wade was based on... what's left? convenience... wanted babies vs. unwanted babies... an argument that can, and will go beyond the unborn. we already have one person on this site suggesting it is OK to use the poor for medical experiments.... the elderly are another possible contender for mass murder ...

So do I.

How many protested when the bush administration pulled terrorist protection from victims in the usa of this campaign?
How many oppose the harassment, intimidation and veiled threats?
The argument that "It's all the same." is the anti-democracy argument and it supports the crazies with bombs.
And it can go beyond theoretical life to life itself, if enough people buy the argument.
And it does.

Find a hospital that routinely performs abortions, so that emergency care is immediate.
Every death, every complication is part of the guilt shared by those in this campaign.

And infanticide is way up in states that make it more difficult.

It is the most difficult crime to detect, if someone wishes to keep it secret, so murder rates are only estimates.
But historians think that, based on bodies found and historical evidence, that the rate of infanticide in the "good old days", was about 1500 a year in a city in the 1800s.

As to what is acceptable to me, I'll make that decision when I'm pregnant.

If the dirty tricks campaign succeeds, and it has been so far, it will mean an end to democracy in this country and civil war.

Examine what war really means before pursuing it.

Silence is consent.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:38 am

damn, if we could just get rid of all those "nasty right wingers", the world would be nothing but peace and prosperity..........love and happiness.........

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:04 am

Palin is not just an old bone.

She is one of the most "fuck up pepole to ever hit the public eye.

Anyone seen with her should avoided.

She returned to NY and got some pot shots taken at her from Letterman. I said "Letterman should get a nugh in the nut for even mentioning her"

On the other hand, Nixons only crime was he was cought..

All Ike did was fish and have heart attacks..

G H W BUsh put milions out on the streets..

G W Bush should be tryed for murder and war crimes.

F D R, Some how fucked us into oweing the UK for saving there ass.

I have lived through more of them than you have.. I do not have to eat "spun history shit". I know first hand.

Slick Willy's years were the best in my life time.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:14 am

gyre wrote: Silence is consent.

the pro-lifers say that too.

to them, abortion IS infanticide.

that, it seems to me, is the real argument here... and one that you will continue to ignore, because it is far more difficult....

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:23 am

While I can't agree with everything Ike did, check out some of the material being declassified about him now.
I have been very impressed.
It seems his style was to get things done and not take credit, even within his own cabinet.
Some of his decisions about security are especially impressive.
I often find it useful to be underestimated.
That seems to have been his approach.

When he wanted to put observational satellites over russia, he let russia put forth the argument for open skies.
While people were panicking about Sputnik, he was quietly celebrating the invitation to monitor all nuclear activity in russia from above.

He was more than he seemed.

And I think he coined the term military industrial complex in a warning.
Too bad more people didn't listen.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:34 am

unjonharley wrote:Palin is not just an old bone.

She is one of the most "fuck up pepole to ever hit the public eye.

Anyone seen with her should avoided.

She returned to NY and got some pot shots taken at her from Letterman. I said "Letterman should get a nugh in the nut for even mentioning her"

On the other hand, Nixons only crime was he was cought..

All Ike did was fish and have heart attacks..

G H W BUsh put milions out on the streets..

G W Bush should be tryed for murder and war crimes.

F D R, Some how fucked us into oweing the UK for saving there ass.

I have lived through more of them than you have.. I do not have to eat "spun history shit". I know first hand.

Slick Willy's years were the best in my life time.

chuckling............

we all have a POV..............who's is correct?
I submit, for anyone, only theirs.
But, to actually believe you know what's "right", and, try to convince others, is, well, challenging.....

I find that, I don't have to agree with someone to still like them.........it makes my life easier, anyway.
I'll just accept them for the good I find, and, let go of the stuff I don't like, to a point, of course.
I still don't like Stalin.........or Mao..........

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:38 am

littleflower wrote:
gyre wrote: Silence is consent.
the pro-lifers say that too.

to them, abortion IS infanticide.

that, it seems to me, is the real argument here... and one that you will continue to ignore, because it is far more difficult....

Sorry, but the term pro-life alone makes it impossible to take the argument seriously.
It's a transparent attempt at "poisoning the well".
Using the term is intended to ignore all argument.

I don't ignore the theories.
I just disagree.

It will become my business to take it more seriously when/if I become pregnant.
It's a personal decision.

But I do take the threat to everyone's freedom deadly seriously.
If religion can dictate government here, there will be no reason to stop with one issue.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:20 am

gyre wrote:
littleflower wrote:
gyre wrote: Silence is consent.
the pro-lifers say that too.

to them, abortion IS infanticide.

that, it seems to me, is the real argument here... and one that you will continue to ignore, because it is far more difficult....
Sorry, but the term pro-life alone makes it impossible to take the argument seriously.
It's a transparent attempt at "poisoning the well".
Using the term is intended to ignore all argument.

I don't ignore the theories.
I just disagree.

It will become my business to take it more seriously when/if I become pregnant.
It's a personal decision.

But I do take the threat to everyone's freedom deadly seriously.
If religion can dictate government here, there will be no reason to stop with one issue.

The church could not control the peoples crouch so they went to the next best crouch sniffer, the goverment. The goverment only sniffs for the money or to distroy there enemy.. There is no way they can tax pussy.. So they throw the church a bone that can be chewed on forever. Each time that bone is chewed the polyticers makes money by spending talk/time.

Pro-get the chuch/state out of my shorts.
I am "not" my brothers keeper.

I "am" my brothers brother..

Pro-lifers. We need more cannon fadder. The Bible told me so.

Come on hand me some more horse shit.

Barbie · Post by **Barbie** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:59 am

Okay- BUT still CAN not get over that- Gyre DID NOT KNOW PALIN WAS A GOV. OF AlasKa!!!!!! WHERE the FRICK were YOU the last couple years???????

Were the Joke's in Bad taste YES LOL IS David Letterman an ASSHole Yes LOL Were they (The Palins) Fools to make a comments about DAvid Letterman on their web SITE YES LOL Did IT give David Letterman WAAyyyyyyyyy more press and the ability to USE the JOKES AGAIN again again and again YES LOLOLOLOLOOOOOL TAHhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

DO I lOVE DAVID ~ YES!!! Okay then

Barbie · Post by **Barbie** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:03 am

AND IF every PRO-LIFE person adopted a couple of KIDS WE would not have a bunch of CHildren without HOMES!!!!!

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:34 am

Barbie wrote:AND IF every PRO-LIFE person adopted a couple of KIDS WE would not have a bunch of CHildren without HOMES!!!!!

And, they can bring them up to be murdered in a manner of there choseing. ei a war dictated by the church per hap.

It's not about the kids or there welfare. It's about people control.

The church was the goverment and is in most of the world today.

xamp: You sin and go to hell if you eat beef on FRi.(old law, stil of this centry) Truth is, The fishing industry was not getting it's market share. So the industry *lobbied:) the gov/church and . The gov/church made a commeral law acording it to the bible. So go's the founding of our great nation and the laws that are written.

Check out the crouch sniffing that gos on to place a judge in a hi court. The church is and old dog that has not gone away.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:04 pm

gyre wrote:While I can't agree with everything Ike did, check out some of the material being declassified about him now.
I have been very impressed.
It seems his style was to get things done and not take credit, even within his own cabinet.
Some of his decisions about security are especially impressive.
I often find it useful to be underestimated.
That seems to have been his approach.

When he wanted to put observational satellites over russia, he let russia put forth the argument for open skies.
While people were panicking about Sputnik, he was quietly celebrating the invitation to monitor all nuclear activity in russia from above.

He was more than he seemed.

And I think he coined the term military industrial complex in a warning.
Too bad more people didn't listen.

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gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:08 pm

Barbie wrote:Okay- BUT still CAN not get over that- Gyre DID NOT KNOW PALIN WAS A GOV. OF AlasKa!!!!!! WHERE the FRICK were YOU the last couple years???????

Oh, Barbie, I heard she was governor.
I just didn't believe it.
I thought it was a saturday night live bit.
Let's face it, her standup was funnier than snl's takeoffs.
I had a lot of trouble telling them apart.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:14 pm

Slick Willy's years were the best in my life time.

8 years of unheralded Peace & Prosperity, not to mention a budget surplus following the worst deficits in history.

poor al gore, how does ANYONE follow Elvis without sucking.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:26 pm

I'd say algore would suck no matter who he followed........

after inventing the internet and setting the example for love story, how do you go higher.........

the only way is down, from there........

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:28 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:
Slick Willy's years were the best in my life time.

8 years of unheralded Peace & Prosperity, not to mention a budget surplus following the worst deficits in history.

poor al gore, how does ANYONE follow Elvis without sucking.

peace?
ask the, the Bosnians, the aspirin factory workers in Sudan, Ron Brown, Vince Foster,
etc, etc..........

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:50 pm

ygmir wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:
Slick Willy's years were the best in my life time.

8 years of unheralded Peace & Prosperity, not to mention a budget surplus following the worst deficits in history.

poor al gore, how does ANYONE follow Elvis without sucking.
peace?
ask the, the Bosnians, the aspirin factory workers in Sudan, Ron Brown, Vince Foster,
etc, etc..........

@ lest we were not running about the earth tilting at wind mills and aborting our young with wAR

Some of the peace can be from the (bush hangover years) (R) CIA. They would not give (D) Billy any corect info. If they told him anything then if would no longer be there secret. And Ben l would have been dead before 9/11.