If Iran get the Bomb, will they use it on Israel?

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:40 pm

no one has mentioned what i think the real fear is ... that some rocket with a nuke will launch from a non-nuclear country, say, lebanon ... and no one will claim responsibility, except, perhaps, some terrorist organization. the nuke could have originated in north korea, pakistan, russia, the black market, &c, as well as iran. MAD would no longer apply ....

for that matter, a nuke could find its way into the hudson river. same thing.

what then?

and yes, i think it's likely to happen whether or not iran gets nukes ... just that much more likely...

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:50 pm

If Martin Luther King or Gandhi were alive today, this is how and what they'd be talking about......

Iran Had a Democracy Before We Took It Away by

by Chris Hedges
Featured Writer
Dandelion Salad
Truthdig
June 22, 2009

Iranians do not need or want us to teach them about liberty and representative government. They have long embodied this struggle. It is we who need to be taught. It was Washington that orchestrated the 1953 coup to topple Iranâ€™s democratically elected government, the first in the Middle East, and install the compliant shah in power. It was Washington that forced Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh, a man who cared as much for his country as he did for the rule of law and democracy, to spend the rest of his life under house arrest. We gave to the Iranian people the corrupt regime of the shah and his savage secret police and the primitive clerics that rose out of the swamp of the dictatorâ€™s Iran. Iranians know they once had a democracy until we took it away.

The fundamental problem in the Middle East is not a degenerate and corrupt Islam. The fundamental problem is a degenerate and corrupt Christendom. We have not brought freedom and democracy and enlightenment to the Muslim world. We have brought the opposite. We have used the iron fist of the American military to implant our oil companies in Iraq, occupy Afghanistan and ensure that the region is submissive and cowed. We have supported a government in Israel that has carried out egregious war crimes in Lebanon and Gaza and is daily stealing ever greater portions of Palestinian land. We have established a network of military bases, some the size of small cities, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Kuwait, and we have secured basing rights in the Gulf states of Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates. We have expanded our military operations to Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Egypt, Algeria and Yemen. And no one naively believes, except perhaps us, that we have any intention of leaving.

We are the biggest problem in the Middle East. We have through our cruelty and violence created and legitimized the Mahmoud Ahmadinejads and the Osama bin Ladens. The longer we lurch around the region dropping iron fragmentation bombs and seizing Muslim land the more these monsters, reflections of our own distorted image, will proliferate. The theologian Reinhold Niebuhr wrote that â€œthe most significant moral characteristic of a nation is its hypocrisy.â€

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:59 pm

one way of looking at it.....

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:22 pm

If any muslim country in the regions would destroy sacred sites of all the big three. The radioactive fallout would fall thoughout the middle east even Iran. The country of origin of the weapon would be bombed- don't think that there aren't nukes in Israel subs. Even US, or many european countries and Russia would retaliate.

It would not serve the interest of any country t use it except for what all countries that now possess it for- retalitory defense!

Lets hope that this civil protest continue peacefully with a change of power thought out Iran.

AIIZ

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:35 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:The country of origin of the weapon would be bombed

you assume that we would be able to know the country of origin.

that is no longer the case.

think about it.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:04 pm

We look for the Built by Acme Rocket Co. of course

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:08 pm

oh yeah, i forgot about that.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:21 pm

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:35 pm

See we already have photo proof of Iranian Rockets.

Simon you didn't answer my question, Do you have dual citizenship?

AIIZ

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:05 am

no i do not, you little hairy mono-brow. why dont you put your tin-foil cap back on, because then they cant See inside your mind.

now go back to squishing grapes with your dirty little toes and contemplating the great opposable thumb conspiracy.

Monkeys.......nothing more than a bunch of banana suckers.

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:20 am

...and never forget about those cheeky French bastards.
Being useless, posing, self-centered shit, without enough about them to be harmful does not obviate their culpability.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:58 am

Simon you sound mad?

Why?

Is it that everything they told you was a lie?

Please go back to being the eplaya clown. It's what you're good at.

As far as the commercial on Iran's bomb project. It's all back by Israel and its stooges here in the states. Except we are not going to buy it like America bought the Iraq WMD sold stock and barrel from Israel's propaganda machine. Let Paranoid Israel fight it's own war if it wishes to act outside the United Nations.

Paid for by "United Against a Nuclear Iran" (american jews) and Israel

AIIZ

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:12 am

Paranoid

i think that pretty much sums you up.

and yes EDB, the french are indeed a sideways step on the bottom rung of the evolutionary ladder.

someday, they will be indeed, the greeks of europe.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:23 am

Simon, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for a Greek

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:29 am

um, actually AIIZ, both my parents were Humans, neither one was a goat, so i am not of Greek descent.

now run along and go drink ouzo and dance with other men, in skirts.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:33 am

You're at you're intellectual high on Eplaya

Got a problem with men wearing kilts too It see.

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:47 am

This useless hyper-male posturing and banter.
It feels good.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:49 am

i KNOW!

it must be summer.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:52 am

ps....AIIZ i figured i was being nice, bringing the level of discussion down to that of a 7 year old who just learned the word "Dumb Cunt".

a level playing field, so to speak.

if you'd like, i can throw in some grammatical errors, poor spelling and obvious delusional thinking in too if it will make you feel more at ease.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:21 am

why stop now simon

Keep your insults going. As I said, it's the real you.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:29 am

I called up United Against a Nuclear Iran

They won't say who supports them, but you can bet its people with duel citizenships

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:57 am

ok,

here we go...

you see AIIZ, i'm going nuclear, without warning, right here on the old eplaya.

gonna turn this shit to GLASS!

there go the sirens...everybody duck and cover!

watch out! look away or your eyeballs may MELT!

cover your ears, or they will BLEED!

yep....this is your last chance to run, and hide.

i am about to release a not-so secret weapon, one so vile and terrible and hellish that i can only think of the horror that will come after.

but do it i must.

i am about to do what is sometimes known as "Pulling a Michael Richards"

yep...

let the boos and hisses commence. Prepare the crucifix. I am about to be martyred in the name of the Eternal Salesman, the Giver and Taker of all things slack plus the dogma, Katma, and Disciplinarian of the Universe, the almighty _ob _obbs, whose name i cannot even say out loud without fear of invoking his almighty wrath, yet i know, in my heart, in my soul, i am right when i say...

"Fuck Em' if they Cant take a Joke"

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yeah, didn't think i had N-Bomb capabilities, did you.....Truth be told, i don't, i bought this one off of the Black market.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:06 pm

Yer got me Simon, I'm a dead moor!

Nice to see the old Simon back, now can i get back to my paranoid, self inflating moorish ego too?

Great, Love to see the old simon, back and making fun of it all even me.

WE just have to be aware of what is really a threat to US.

And its not you nor me.

AIIZ

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:19 pm

Hey. Wait a minute...

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:09 pm

Define "use".

The primary purpose of nuclear weapons is as a strategic threat. It's like a belly dancer before she takes off all her veils. Once she gets rid of her veils, her show is over. Something like nuclear weapons, except that they aren't hairy in unexpected places.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:10 pm

it was only a test.

had this been an actual N-Bomb, you would be instructed as to your nearest fall-out boy concert.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:39 am

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Post by **mdmf007** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:33 am

Iran would drop it in a new york minute -

then Israel nukes them, Saudi Arabia, Egypt retaliate and then we are off to races.

last one standing wins.