getting married, need a minister

mastersodium · Post by **mastersodium** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:30 pm

me and my fiancee are getting married at the burn this year, but we are having alot of problems with finding someone to sign the paperwork and make it all legal. we tried the universal life church thing like it says on the site, but with nevada law it is far too much of a hassle to get our friend liscenced to perform ceremonies in the state of nevada.

we were just wondering if there is anybody out there who is liscenced to perform weddings in the state of nevada who would be willing to do the ceremony. we already have an officiant and stuff, so all it would be is signing the papers and making it legal.

Tiara · Post by **Tiara** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:21 pm

Searching for the phrase "getting married" on the official site at www.burningman.com yields the following link:

http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... dings.html

affinity · Post by **affinity** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:13 pm

Hi, I am the wedding coordinator for Burning Man. If you would like to contact me there are several volunteers who are happy to marry you on the Playa, and they are already Nevada legal.

Affinity

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:26 pm

Getting married... what a bad idea, on or off the playa. There are even stats to prove it.
Pre-nup.

DangerMouse · Post by **DangerMouse** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:23 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:Getting married... what a bad idea, on or off the playa. There are even stats to prove it.
Pre-nup.

Is that because marraiges are a bad thing, or because people are unwilling to make things work anymore?

III · Post by **III** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:55 am

i heard larry is getting ordained so that he can perform marriages this year.

(wait - this isn't the rumors thread?)

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:22 am

Is that because marraiges are a bad thing, or because people are unwilling to make things work anymore?

People change, circumstances change and people can get sick and tired of working for little or no return.

Divorcing after 8 wonderful years of marriage, the problem is that I was married for 23 years. I would have split years ago except for child custody worries. And yes the kid lives with me.

Icepack · Post by **Icepack** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:50 pm

Silver wrote:
Is that because marraiges are a bad thing, or because people are unwilling to make things work anymore?
People change, circumstances change and people can get sick and tired of working for little or no return.

Divorcing after 8 wonderful years of marriage, the problem is that I was married for 23 years. I would have split years ago except for child custody worries. And yes the kid lives with me.

Marriage is a great thing when it works. Just because yours didn't work, is no reason to shit on the rest of the world.

People change, circumstances change, and you can change too. My grandparents lived in separate homes for over 30 years, but they stayed married. Deep down, they still loved each other. My other grandparents celebrated a very happy 50th wedding anniversary before my grandfather passed away.
Everyone's experience is different. My mother was married and divorced 3 times by the age of 33. I waited until I was over 30 to tie the knot myself.

--off my soap box now--

Congratulations to the folks wanting to get married on the playa this year! There are plenty of options, I'm sure others will guide you on how to make it happen. Good luck to you!

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:46 pm

I'm not "shitting on the rest of the world"... it's just a statistical fact that getting married leads to more UNHAPPINESS that happiness! And I'd like to see poeple not screw up their lives. I'm not a cranky victim of a failed marriage; I've avoided it and am often the envy of my married friends.
But if you wanna do it, it isn't gonna affect me and it's legal, have at it. If I meet you at the burn this year I won't give you any shit at all, I hope your deal works out.
But I wouldn't do it.

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:04 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:it's just a statistical fact that getting married leads to more UNHAPPINESS that happiness!

cites?

In fact let me offer a counter-cite:

NOV. 16, 1999 -- A lasting marriage brings as much happiness as having an additional $100,000 income, according to a new research report on levels of happiness, "Well-Being in Britain and the U.S."

The full story is at http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases ... happy.html

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:17 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:... it's just a statistical fact that getting married leads to more UNHAPPINESS that happiness!

I find this a little dubious too. How do you measure that? There's the old statistical factoid that used to be bandied about that it increases the longevity of men and decreases that of women. Was that true? Is it still true? Unknown. Even the fact that there's one divorce for every two marraiges every year may not mean much. What is the average longevity of a marrage today? What was is 150 years ago with the changes in lifespan and abandonment instead of divorce and how do you count common-law marrages. Humans do seem to have a propensity to pair-bond, and some form of marriage exists in every sociaty known, past and present. The trick is possibly creating institutions that have enough flexibility to accomidate changing needs and for people to not just get married for the sake of getting married.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:15 am

Just look at the divorce rate. 50% at best, 66% in California. Factor in those who stay married for the kids or because they'll get raked over in the divorce even though they can't stand each other, and the "unhappiness" numbers go higher.
I stand by my quote.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:19 am

And honestly, best of luck to you, you're Burners and therefore probably really cool people... and nobody asked me anyway...

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:22 am

You don't necessarily have to get married in nevada in order to get married at Burning Man. You could have the county clerk from your hometown issue a marriage liscence to you, and simply sign it at Burning Man, or before you go, or after you get home. The ceremony and the Document are really quite separate entities. Nevada's marriage laws are quite complex from what I see on their site, but if this isn't an option for you (some places require the liscence to be signed within the boundaries of the county from which it was issued), I am an ordained minister with ULC, and have been engaged in activities which loosely constitute administering to a congregation, so thus qualify to get a permission cert from Nevada. I would be willing to go through the application process for a permission to perform marriages certification if you need me to. Drop me a line.

Icepack · Post by **Icepack** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:33 pm

[/quote] Even the fact that there's one divorce for every two marraiges every year may not mean much. What is the average longevity of a marrage today? What was is 150 years ago with the changes in lifespan and abandonment instead of divorce and how do you count common-law marrages. Humans do seem to have a propensity to pair-bond, and some form of marriage exists in every sociaty known, past and present. The trick is possibly creating institutions that have enough flexibility to accomidate changing needs and for people to not just get married for the sake of getting married.[/quote]

Okay, that 50% divorce rate thing is just ... you get people who get married and divorced 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 times and it ruins the numbers. That statistic is just so inaccurate.

You take a person who has been married and divorced 3 times and a person who has been married once, and you get a statistic that says 3 out of 4 marriages ends in divorce. etc. It's just not right.

And, like you said, when people died at a younger age, or women died during childbirth for example, men remarried. So there weren't as many divorces because there were more widows and widowers instead. Doesn't mean marriage was a failure.

okay, enough babble...

Icepack · Post by **Icepack** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:37 pm

mastersodium wrote:me and my fiancee are getting married at the burn this year, but we are having alot of problems with finding someone to sign the paperwork and make it all legal. we tried the universal life church thing like it says on the site, but with nevada law it is far too much of a hassle to get our friend liscenced to perform ceremonies in the state of nevada.

we were just wondering if there is anybody out there who is liscenced to perform weddings in the state of nevada who would be willing to do the ceremony. we already have an officiant and stuff, so all it would be is signing the papers and making it legal.

For what it's worth, maybe consider doing the legal stuff off-playa. It might be easier. But definitely check with the Burning Man wedding people and see if you can work something out.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:39 pm

you're Burners and therefore probably really cool people...

Well, um, hmmmm....

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:01 am

I know this now has NOTHING to do with mastersodium's original question (a thread is never over until it has been deteriorated beyond recognition) but just for the fun of debating it out and further advancing the topic into obscurity...
If I get married twice and divorced twice is that not 2 failed marriages? Do those 2 divorces not count into the total average? Or did the first one never happen?
If you get married 2 times and divorced once, is that a 50% success/failure rate? I think the numbers are accurate.
Try to tell your insurance company your rates should be the same after 5 accidents because you're just one person and the earlier crashes don't count.

Ranger Beauty · Post by **Ranger Beauty** » Wed May 05, 2004 5:50 pm

Ranger Beauty here,

I'm an Ordained Minister & have preformed numerous Playa weddings!

I'd be happy to assist you in getting married @ BM.

Please contact me for further info.

Brightest Blessings,

RB

[email protected]

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