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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:31 am

dr.placebo wrote:Two pieces of good news for the Blue Team today:

1. The MN Supremes just declared Franken the winner. Unanimously.

2. Sanford, that sleaze from SC, continues to score own goals. Now he admits he lied about the details. I don't care about his sex life, but going AWOL on his state, continually lying about it, and being a rank hypocrite seem to me to be more than adequate reason for him to leave. Soon.
it's South Carolina. Who cares?

they get what they vote for.
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:40 am

This was the state that was until recently flying the Confederate Flag from the Statehouse.

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Ugly Dougly wrote:This was the state that was until recently flying the Confederate Flag from the Statehouse.
And there you have it. I say let Sanford stay Gov. in fact, give the man an extra 8 years.
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I know this isn't new but it's politics just the same.



Confidential memo reveals US plan to provoke an invasion of Iraq


* Jamie Doward, Gaby Hinsliff and Mark Townsend
* The Observer, Sunday 21 June 2009
* Article history

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009 ... blair-bush

A confidential record of a meeting between President Bush and Tony Blair before the invasion of Iraq, outlining their intention to go to war without a second United Nations resolution, will be an explosive issue for the official inquiry into the UK's role in toppling Saddam Hussein.

The memo, written on 31 January 2003, almost two months before the invasion and seen by the Observer, confirms that as the two men became increasingly aware UN inspectors would fail to find weapons of mass destruction (WMD) they had to contemplate alternative scenarios that might trigger a second resolution legitimising military action.

Bush told Blair the US had drawn up a provocative plan "to fly U2 reconnaissance aircraft painted in UN colours over Iraq with fighter cover". Bush said that if Saddam fired at the planes this would put the Iraqi leader in breach of UN resolutions.

The president expressed hopes that an Iraqi defector would be "brought out" to give a public presentation on Saddam's WMD or that someone might assassinate the Iraqi leader. However, Bush confirmed even without a second resolution, the US was prepared for military action. The memo said Blair told Bush he was "solidly with the president".

The five-page document, written by Blair's foreign policy adviser, Sir David Manning, and copied to Sir Jeremy Greenstock, the UK ambassador to the UN, Jonathan Powell, Blair's chief of staff, the chief of the defence staff, Admiral Lord Boyce, and the UK's ambassador to Washington, Sir Christopher Meyer, outlines how Bush told Blair he had decided on a start date for the war.

Paraphrasing Bush's comments at the meeting, Manning, noted: "The start date for the military campaign was now pencilled in for 10 March. This was when the bombing would begin."

Last night an expert on international law who is familar with the memo's contents said it provided vital evidence into the two men's frames of mind as they considered the invasion and its aftermath and must be presented to the Chilcott inquiry established by Gordon Brown to examine the causes, conduct and consequences of the Iraq war.

Philippe Sands, QC, a professor of law at University College London who is expected to give evidence to the inquiry, said confidential material such as the memo was of national importance, making it vital that the inquiry is not held in private, as Brown originally envisioned.

In today's Observer, Sands writes: "Documents like this raise issues of national embarrassment, not national security. The restoration of public confidence requires this new inquiry to be transparent. Contentious matters should not be kept out of the public domain, even in the run-up to an election."

The memo notes there had been a shift in the two men's thinking on Iraq by late January 2003 and that preparing for war was now their priority. "Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning," Manning writes. This was despite the fact Blair that had yet to receive advice on the legality of the war from the Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, which did not arrive until 7 March 2003 - 13 days before the bombing campaign started.

In his article today, Sands says the memo raises questions about the selection of the chair of the inquiry. Sir John Chilcott sat on the 2004 Butler inquiry, which examined the reliability of intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war, and would have been privy to the document's contents - and the doubts about WMD running to the highest levels of the US and UK governments.

Many senior legal experts have expressed dismay that Chilcott has been selected to chair the inquiry as he is considered to be close to the security services after his time spent as a civil servant in Northern Ireland.

Brown had believed that allowing the Chilcott inquiry to hold private hearings would allow witnesses to be candid. But after bereaved families and antiwar campaigners expressed outrage, the prime minister wrote to Chilcott to say that if the panel can show witnesses and national security issues will not be compromised by public hearings, he will change his stance.

Lord Guthrie, a former chief of the defence staff under Blair, described the memo as "quite shocking". He said that it underscored why the Chilcott inquiry must be seen to be a robust investigation: "It's important that the inquiry is not a whitewash as these inquiries often are."

This year, the Dutch government launched its own inquiry into its support for the war. Significantly, the inquiry will see all the intelligence shared with the Dutch intelligence services by MI5 and MI6. The inquiry intends to publish its report in November - suggesting that confidential information about the role played by the UK and the US could become public before Chilcott's inquiry reports next year
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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:44 pm

couldn't find the Palin thread. Sorry.

Palin - The Horror

30 Jun 2009 05:06 pm


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/t ... orror.html

As the months have gone by since John McCain revealed his total cynicism and contempt for America's national security by selecting one Sarah Palin to be a potential vice-president of the United States, we have learned that every single ghastly attribute we discovered in the campaign is worse than we thought at the time. The narcissism, the pathological and incessant lying, the viciousness, the delusions of grandeur, the vindictiveness, the fathomless and proud ignorance, the opportunism, the vanity, the white trash concupiscence and fraudulence in almost every respect: these are now indisputable. How an advanced democracy came that close to having this farce of a candidate running the most powerful country on earth reveals how deep the corruption of our politics and especially our media are.

There is not much new in Todd Purdum's nonetheless superb summary of the Wasilla whack-job. I learned that Matt Scully's concern for the welfare of animals did not prevent him from writing not one but two speeches for a woman who backed shooting wolves from helicopters and allowing them to die a gruesomely painful death. I learned that Mark MacKinnon publicly said he would never join a campaign against Obama and yet coached Palin for her presidential debate, and kept it quiet. One should remember, I suppose, that in Washington even those who seem able to put principle before partisanship are all liars and hypocrites in the end. Chief among these goons is John McCain, a man whose reputation should never, ever recover from this act of wanton irresponsibility and cynicism.

But I did learn of several new odd lies - in the same classic pattern of categorically denying things that are categorically and patently and verifiably true. This is not, as this blog noted in the campaign, the typical political lie, the Clintonian parsing of truth or lying when the truth cannot easily be discovered. It is the statement that it is night when it is clearly, by universal aggreement, three o'clock in the afternoon. So the Dish needs an update and it is imminent. Stay tuned.
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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:32 pm

Quotes from SC gov's wide-ranging AP interview

By The Associated Press – 1 hour ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD99598L00


Quotes from Mark Sanford's wide-ranging interview with The Associated Press, conducted in his Statehouse office over two days:

_ On his political demise: "The problem with funerals is that someone has to die or something has to die. Obviously I've been dealing over the last couple of days with my own political funeral, if you will, in terms of other prospects that might or might not have come."

_ On other women he encountered on trips outside the U.S. but before he met his Argentine lover, Maria Belen Chapur, with whom he said he crossed a line he hadn't crossed before: "What I would say is that I've never had sex with another woman. Have I done stupid? I have. You know you meet someone. You dance with them. You go to a place where you probably shouldn't have gone ... If you're a married guy at the end of the day you shouldn't be dancing with somebody else. So anyway without wandering into that field we'll just say that I let my guard down in all senses of the word without ever crossing the line that I crossed with this situation."

_ On meeting Chapur for coffee during the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004: "I remember there was an older couple sitting to our right, and I remember them watching us, in the way that we interacted. They could see a spark, or, I don't know what you'd call it, but there was something there."

_ On reconciling his affair while people were talking about him as a possible 2012 presidential candidate: "You kept compartmentalizing. That one is incredibly important in terms of the ramifications. And my passion for the world of ideas that impact this country and state. Um, the other was tied to, well what's different between left brain and right brain, is what it is. One was about these different concrete things I've been working on. And the other, the other is tied to (long pause) the pursuit of happiness. Whatever that is.

_ On his most recent trip to see Chapur in Argentina: "No, she knew I was coming. Didn't believe I was coming, but I got down on one knee and said I am here in the hope that we can prove this whole thing to be a mirage."

_ On weighing his political career against his relationship with her: "I will be able to die knowing that I had met my soul mate. But it was one of those things, I knew the cost."

_ On his relationship with Chapur: "This was a whole lot more than a simple affair, that it's a love story ... a forbidden one, a tragic one, but a love story at the end of the day."

_ On trying to deal with his feelings for her: "It's about incredibly deep conflicts, between one's heart and one's value system, and an 8 1/2 year wrestling match on that front."

_ On the affair: "Everyone of us is going to be at that death bed one day and we're going to look back over the whole of our lives and we're going to ask, you know, was or what we're willing to risk certain things that may be viewed as a stupid trade-off by the rest of the world but that's for each person to determine. And so if you end up 50 years here on earth and you know, alright, maybe I get another 30 and if you come into connection with a soul that touches yours in a way that no one's ever has, even if it's a place you can't go, this notion of knowing that you know, for me, became very important."

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Post by ygmir » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:35 pm

who is DVDburner, and, why does he cut and paste these huge articles, instead of discussing stuff and sharing ideas?

Not that I'm against it, but, it's so sterile............What does he think?
in his (I'm assuming male) own words?

just wonderin'...........
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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:43 pm

it's rare that I post here and when I do it's usually a big news day.


Why say anything when there is nothing to say?
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Post by ygmir » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:09 pm

DVD Burner wrote:it's rare that I post here and when I do it's usually a big news day.


Why say anything when there is nothing to say?
agreed.........I guess I was just sayin', that, why not "say" something, instead of cut and paste.........
we all can read the papers, watch the news, whatever...........
sharing thoughts and ideas, at least for me, is where it's at...........

not that I presume to tell you what or how to do it. Just sayin conversation, albeit electronic, is, to me, more fun..........
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Post by dr.placebo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:36 pm

I know, this is so last week, but what the hell...

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:42 am

How much do we have one this Maria Belen Chapur person? Is she some sort of hired seductress? I'd imagine that instead of assassinating someone, all you have to do is hire a skilled seductress/seductor. Of course, it took her long enough to do her work. She must be an amateur.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:59 am

Looks like the Republicans are taking it up the ass about misleading our congresspersons.

It gives Nancy Pelosi greater credibility about her account of the CIA waterboarding program.

they outright lied!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/09/us/po ... ml?_r=1&hp

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:12 am

Dick Cheney has retreated to a safe, undisclosed place.

The man that was all over Obama's closing of Guantanamo, Torture and other atrocites of the War on Terror appeared on any TV show that would have him (except John Steward's Daily Show!) has fallen off the face of the earth.

He's once again in deep shit! Hopefully this time we can put him and bush in jail!

Why?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/po ... ml?_r=1&hp

Cheney Is Linked to Concealment of C.I.A. Project comments (202)

By SCOTT SHANE

Published: July 11, 2009
The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agency’s director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.

The report that Mr. Cheney was behind the decision to conceal the still-unidentified program from Congress deepened the mystery surrounding it, suggesting that the Bush administration had put a high priority on the program and its secrecy.

Mr. Panetta, who ended the program when he first learned of its existence from subordinates on June 23, briefed the two intelligence committees about it in separate closed sessions the next day.

Efforts to reach Mr. Cheney through relatives and associates were unsuccessful.

End of excerpt

What was the nature of this Secret Mystery program and what is any laws national or international were broken?

Obama's selection of Leon Panetta as CIA Director was a major score for Democracy!

Will we find Dick in a dirt hole somewhere in Wyoming?

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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:57 am

So.....ummmm.....do people in this thread still believe Bush, Cheney and the lot have no chance of getting prosecuted?


Personally, I think there now is a chance of the charge of TREASON!


What say you?
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:04 am

No need to ask me

Attorney General May Open Interrogation Inquiry

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/po ... ce.html?hp

By JOHN H. CUSHMAN Jr.
Published: July 11, 2009

WASHINGTON — Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. is considering assigning a prosecutor to investigate whether government personnel tortured terrorism suspects after the attacks of Sept. 11, a Justice Department official said Saturday.

It wouldn't suprise me if cheney was a participant

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Post by dr.placebo » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:05 am

I thought about posting this on the fave utube thread, but decided that it really was better here:

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It's funny, and it mocks Glenn Beck. What more could one want?

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:47 pm

Sorry I dont have or watch TV but I have seen Beck on CNN and FOX. is he still on the air?
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Post by dr.placebo » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:54 pm

Glenn Beck is on Fox (English variant of Faux) News at 5 pm ET. His show is self-described as the "Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment." This description accidentally uses "Fusion" in the nuclear weapon sense, where nothing solid remains after the detonation.

The utube clip I referenced is based on a recent now-viral meltdown that Glenn Beck had on air. It's easy to find the original, but the vampire version is funnier.

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Post by dr.placebo » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:17 pm

Oh yes, and because I hit "Submit" too easily (perhaps I'm a closet Sub), I forgot to add that GB is on CNN as well. Also see:

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Glenn_Beck

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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:27 pm

What? He's on still and on 2 networks?

Amazing!
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What more can be said. I know I'm a little late on this but...........
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Post by ygmir » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:58 pm

I found this article.
to me, it is spot on..........
"throw em all out" I say..........

As follows:


545 vs 300,000,000 EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years..

545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.


This might be funny if it weren't so darned true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Ser vice FeeTax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge=2 0Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
And I still have to 'press 1' for English!?
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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:44 pm

Wait, what was my moto again?

Oh yeah, politics and religion is for suckers. STOP PAYING TAXES!


I also posted on eplaya this for years and years. also posted how to do it.
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Post by ygmir » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:02 pm

dang, I'm walking in the giants shadow, again............

I never plonk anyone, because, I know, someday, somehow, in some even small way, we can and will agree.........
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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:06 pm

I dont plonk anyone cause I dont want to miss anything.

I made this argument before the plonker was deployed years and years ago with my offering of three types of plonkers.

Thoroughly researched the plonker.

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Post by Box Burner » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:37 am

ygmir wrote:I found this article.
to me, it is spot on..........
"throw em all out" I say..........

As follows:


545 vs 300,000,000 EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years..

545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.


This might be funny if it weren't so darned true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Ser vice FeeTax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge=2 0Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
And I still have to 'press 1' for English!?

Theres's that wooden nickel again. This is why we should not have professional politicians. Sounds like treason to me.
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Post by ygmir » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:05 am

yeah, and, that's sort of the "rub".......

it was set up not to have "pro's", save the senate......(least powerful of the 3)
supposedly, the house members would be there 2 years and go back home.......prez, too
4-8 years...........

but,
people keep re-electing their reps, since, they "bring home the pork"........

and, won't institute term limits..........

throw 'em all out.........

also,
it was set up to be able to re-write the constitution, calling for a convention to do just that, and, proposed by the founders to be done with some regularity..........

but,
those in power want to stay there, and, "we" go along..........

"no, I am not cynical".......
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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:42 pm

So will anything happen to Blackwater and it's owner?
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Post by dr.placebo » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:54 am

Blackwater is pretty evil.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill

And, on a not unrelated topic, here's a video from the DNC that calls out the Republicans for inciting the mob:

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Normally the DNC behaves like an old sleeping dog, so being this awake comes as a surprise.

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Post by ygmir » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:10 am

dr.placebo wrote: And, on a not unrelated topic, here's a video from the DNC that calls out the Republicans for inciting the mob:

[youtube][/youtube]

Normally the DNC behaves like an old sleeping dog, so being this awake comes as a surprise.
[youtube][/youtube]
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