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did you read the page on how jews are trying to destroy Humor in the movies and TV?
Neither did I!
That guy was a jew and now is a christian.
He still doesn't get it does he?
Eros is a planet destroyer.
Its the 2nd largest near earth object that we know of and considered to be much larger then what killed the dinos.
I'm not too worried about world politics right now and I might not make it back to burning until perhaps 2011 or 2012. I just want to have some fun on the playa before the bang.
Neither did I!
That guy was a jew and now is a christian.
He still doesn't get it does he?

Eros is a planet destroyer.
Its the 2nd largest near earth object that we know of and considered to be much larger then what killed the dinos.
I'm not too worried about world politics right now and I might not make it back to burning until perhaps 2011 or 2012. I just want to have some fun on the playa before the bang.
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I'm not too worried about world politics right now and I might not make it back to burning until perhaps 2011 or 2012. I just want to have some fun on the playa before the bang.
LMSNJHAO!!!!
laughing my skinny nazi heterosexual jew ass off!!!
Once I noticed I was on fire, I decided to relax and enjoy the fall™
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Some jews made the best nazis doing it for the Fatherland: until they rounded them up.
They almost got Hitler too before his homo ass was blown up.
As a jew do you think Israel is a real true friend of the USA or its just that they see the USA as a sugar daddy?
The bombing of the USS Liberty shows the true Israel- a relationship of convenience.
If it came down to choosing sides Mr. Homo Nazi, which will YOU choose!
And if 2012 does happen, remember if it wasn't for Israel, then there wouldn't have been a Jesus, a christian church and there would have been 2000 years of tech advancement and our little asses would have colonized the solar system. Have a space station only give us a chance of surviving the collision if it can survive the ejecta orbiting the earth. But the odds say it is impossible.
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They almost got Hitler too before his homo ass was blown up.
As a jew do you think Israel is a real true friend of the USA or its just that they see the USA as a sugar daddy?
The bombing of the USS Liberty shows the true Israel- a relationship of convenience.
If it came down to choosing sides Mr. Homo Nazi, which will YOU choose!
And if 2012 does happen, remember if it wasn't for Israel, then there wouldn't have been a Jesus, a christian church and there would have been 2000 years of tech advancement and our little asses would have colonized the solar system. Have a space station only give us a chance of surviving the collision if it can survive the ejecta orbiting the earth. But the odds say it is impossible.
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This is from an old article;
"WWIII Is Coming 'Whether They Like It Or Not': Top Sharon Aide Arizona Daily Star, Tucson Saturday, April 27, 2002"
This is the part that I think is kinda funny;
"2-day tour
of the United States to promote the purchase of Israel Bonds.
The bonds are part of a program that began in 1951, in which
securities are sold to individuals and corporations to finance
economic growth in Israel.
"The Israeli government pays them back . . . The collateral is
the eternity of the Jewish people,'' Gissin said, dismissing an
April 1 Newsweek story that questioned the future of his country.
"We believe the state of Israel will continue to exist forever.
Therefore, it's a sure investment."
http://www.thenewsturmer.com/other%20in ... _world.htm
We shall see.
"WWIII Is Coming 'Whether They Like It Or Not': Top Sharon Aide Arizona Daily Star, Tucson Saturday, April 27, 2002"
This is the part that I think is kinda funny;
"2-day tour
of the United States to promote the purchase of Israel Bonds.
The bonds are part of a program that began in 1951, in which
securities are sold to individuals and corporations to finance
economic growth in Israel.
"The Israeli government pays them back . . . The collateral is
the eternity of the Jewish people,'' Gissin said, dismissing an
April 1 Newsweek story that questioned the future of his country.
"We believe the state of Israel will continue to exist forever.
Therefore, it's a sure investment."
http://www.thenewsturmer.com/other%20in ... _world.htm
We shall see.
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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Israel could be around for ages if they just honor the UN agreements and work to a two nation existance.
As far as an investment, that all depends if they can exist without US aid and be productive. The aid at present levels might not be around after the amount of money we need to spend on our stimulus plans. We need another 1.2 Billion injected into our economy.
Just hope that Israel will be a true partner to peace and not one of financial and military convenience.
But can we trust them?
AIIZ
As far as an investment, that all depends if they can exist without US aid and be productive. The aid at present levels might not be around after the amount of money we need to spend on our stimulus plans. We need another 1.2 Billion injected into our economy.
Just hope that Israel will be a true partner to peace and not one of financial and military convenience.
But can we trust them?
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Israeli soldiers: 'No clear red lines' in Gaza war
By STEVE WEIZMAN – 49 minutes ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD99F2RCO0
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli soldiers who fought in last winter's Gaza War say the military used Palestinians as human shields, improperly fired incendiary white phosphorous shells over civilian areas and used overwhelming firepower that caused needless deaths and destruction, according to a report released Wednesday.
The testimonies were by far the strongest allegations to come from war veterans that the army used excessive force during the three-week offensive and echoed claims already leveled by Palestinian and human rights groups. The military rebutted the report, saying the accounts were anonymous and impossible to verify.
The accounts of 26 war veterans were collected by Breaking the Silence, an organization of Israeli army reservists critical of their country's treatment of Palestinians. They described demolishing buildings, vandalizing homes and using more than essential firepower, given the relatively light resistance they encountered. One said the army needlessly used white phosphorous, a masking agent that can cause severe burns, for smokescreens. Others said regulations for opening fire were vague, and that soldiers were expected to do whatever was necessary to protect themselves.
"There were no clear red lines," one soldier told the group. "If you're not sure, kill. Fire power was insane," said another.
Military officers have acknowledged that rules of engagement were relaxed to minimize army casualties but insisted civilians were never targeted.
Israel launched the blistering offensive last December after thousands of rocket attacks by Palestinian militants on southern Israel over an eight-year period. More than 1,400 Palestinians, including at least 900 civilians, were killed in the fighting, thousands of homes were destroyed and Gaza's infrastructure was battered, according to Gaza health officials and human rights groups. Israel puts the death toll closer to 1,100 and says most were armed fighters. Thirteen Israelis were killed, including three civilians who died from rocket fire.
Wednesday's report was sure to fuel a debate that still rages six months after the offensive over whether Israel violated the rules of war. International rights groups, including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have said the degree of force and heavy civilian death toll constituted war crimes, and the U.N. has launched a probe, headed by a respected war crimes prosecutor, into the actions of Israel and Hamas. Human rights groups say Hamas committed war crimes by firing rockets at civilian areas in Israel.
Israel maintains that responsibility for the carnage lies with Hamas, which it says cached ammunition in schools and mosques, blended in with the general population and used civilian areas and public buildings for cover.
The Israeli military said it "regrets the fact that yet another human rights organization is presenting to Israel and the world a report based on anonymous and general testimonies, without investigating their details or credibility." The military also said that since no identifying details were given, it was impossible to verify the accounts. It urged soldiers to come forward and register official complaints.
Defense Minister Ehud Barak reiterated his belief that the Israeli military "is one of the world's most moral armies and operates according to the highest moral code."
Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of the Hamas government in Gaza, said the report "reflects the crimes committed in Gaza," and called on "human rights bodies and international groups" to put Israel's leaders on trial.
Wednesday's 110-page report, which also included videotaped testimonies in which soldiers' faces were blurred out, did not represent a cross-section of the army. Rather, they were troops who approached the group or were reached through acquaintances of group members. Two were junior officers and the rest were lower-ranking personnel. It did not examine Hamas' actions.
Many questioned the overwhelming use of force. One soldier said the army used weapons like mortars and white phosphorous "to show off its strength." Another soldier said white phosphorus artillery shells were used to ignite a house suspected of housing munitions. "The house went up in flames," he said.
Israel has said it used white phosphorus munitions only outside of crowded areas and only as a smokescreen to protect forces. But New York-based Human Rights Watch says Israel fired white phosphorous shells indiscriminately over densely populated areas in what amounts to a war crime.
Breaking the Silence said it decided to protect the identity of the soldiers, noting that many are still in the military and could face punishment for speaking out. But spokesman Mikhael Manekin said the accounts included enough information for the army to figure out which units were involved.
"If there is ever an inquiry, the witnesses will gladly testify," he said. An internal military probe earlier this year found no systematic wrongdoing on the part of the army.
A few other soldiers have come forward with similar second-hand testimony since the operation. But overall, the Israeli public believes the Gaza operation was necessary to halt the rocket fire and think their military is singled out for unfair criticism.
Some testimonies provided a glimpse at the complex battlefield the soldiers faced as they pushed into densely populated territory, fearing booby-trapped houses and alleyway ambushes and unable to tell civilians from combatants. Hamas had promised to make Gaza a "graveyard" for the Israelis.
One soldier quoted his commander as saying, "I am not willing to allow a soldier of mine to risk himself by hesitating."
But most focused on what they saw as improper behavior, like the vandalism of Palestinian property or the use of civilians as human shields — a practice the army itself has banned.
"Sometimes the force would enter while placing rifle barrels on a civilian's shoulder, advancing into a house and using him as a human shield. Commanders said these were the instructions and we had to do it," one soldier said.
Another said that soldiers would shoot at houses and water tanks from boredom.
"At one point, an officer decided to give a grenade-throwing training exercise. He put the soldiers in a house and they threw grenades inside until it was completely destroyed," he said. Other accounts described soldiers drawing obscene graffiti on the walls of occupied houses, or using bulldozers to systematically destroy homes.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
By STEVE WEIZMAN – 49 minutes ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD99F2RCO0
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli soldiers who fought in last winter's Gaza War say the military used Palestinians as human shields, improperly fired incendiary white phosphorous shells over civilian areas and used overwhelming firepower that caused needless deaths and destruction, according to a report released Wednesday.
The testimonies were by far the strongest allegations to come from war veterans that the army used excessive force during the three-week offensive and echoed claims already leveled by Palestinian and human rights groups. The military rebutted the report, saying the accounts were anonymous and impossible to verify.
The accounts of 26 war veterans were collected by Breaking the Silence, an organization of Israeli army reservists critical of their country's treatment of Palestinians. They described demolishing buildings, vandalizing homes and using more than essential firepower, given the relatively light resistance they encountered. One said the army needlessly used white phosphorous, a masking agent that can cause severe burns, for smokescreens. Others said regulations for opening fire were vague, and that soldiers were expected to do whatever was necessary to protect themselves.
"There were no clear red lines," one soldier told the group. "If you're not sure, kill. Fire power was insane," said another.
Military officers have acknowledged that rules of engagement were relaxed to minimize army casualties but insisted civilians were never targeted.
Israel launched the blistering offensive last December after thousands of rocket attacks by Palestinian militants on southern Israel over an eight-year period. More than 1,400 Palestinians, including at least 900 civilians, were killed in the fighting, thousands of homes were destroyed and Gaza's infrastructure was battered, according to Gaza health officials and human rights groups. Israel puts the death toll closer to 1,100 and says most were armed fighters. Thirteen Israelis were killed, including three civilians who died from rocket fire.
Wednesday's report was sure to fuel a debate that still rages six months after the offensive over whether Israel violated the rules of war. International rights groups, including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have said the degree of force and heavy civilian death toll constituted war crimes, and the U.N. has launched a probe, headed by a respected war crimes prosecutor, into the actions of Israel and Hamas. Human rights groups say Hamas committed war crimes by firing rockets at civilian areas in Israel.
Israel maintains that responsibility for the carnage lies with Hamas, which it says cached ammunition in schools and mosques, blended in with the general population and used civilian areas and public buildings for cover.
The Israeli military said it "regrets the fact that yet another human rights organization is presenting to Israel and the world a report based on anonymous and general testimonies, without investigating their details or credibility." The military also said that since no identifying details were given, it was impossible to verify the accounts. It urged soldiers to come forward and register official complaints.
Defense Minister Ehud Barak reiterated his belief that the Israeli military "is one of the world's most moral armies and operates according to the highest moral code."
Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of the Hamas government in Gaza, said the report "reflects the crimes committed in Gaza," and called on "human rights bodies and international groups" to put Israel's leaders on trial.
Wednesday's 110-page report, which also included videotaped testimonies in which soldiers' faces were blurred out, did not represent a cross-section of the army. Rather, they were troops who approached the group or were reached through acquaintances of group members. Two were junior officers and the rest were lower-ranking personnel. It did not examine Hamas' actions.
Many questioned the overwhelming use of force. One soldier said the army used weapons like mortars and white phosphorous "to show off its strength." Another soldier said white phosphorus artillery shells were used to ignite a house suspected of housing munitions. "The house went up in flames," he said.
Israel has said it used white phosphorus munitions only outside of crowded areas and only as a smokescreen to protect forces. But New York-based Human Rights Watch says Israel fired white phosphorous shells indiscriminately over densely populated areas in what amounts to a war crime.
Breaking the Silence said it decided to protect the identity of the soldiers, noting that many are still in the military and could face punishment for speaking out. But spokesman Mikhael Manekin said the accounts included enough information for the army to figure out which units were involved.
"If there is ever an inquiry, the witnesses will gladly testify," he said. An internal military probe earlier this year found no systematic wrongdoing on the part of the army.
A few other soldiers have come forward with similar second-hand testimony since the operation. But overall, the Israeli public believes the Gaza operation was necessary to halt the rocket fire and think their military is singled out for unfair criticism.
Some testimonies provided a glimpse at the complex battlefield the soldiers faced as they pushed into densely populated territory, fearing booby-trapped houses and alleyway ambushes and unable to tell civilians from combatants. Hamas had promised to make Gaza a "graveyard" for the Israelis.
One soldier quoted his commander as saying, "I am not willing to allow a soldier of mine to risk himself by hesitating."
But most focused on what they saw as improper behavior, like the vandalism of Palestinian property or the use of civilians as human shields — a practice the army itself has banned.
"Sometimes the force would enter while placing rifle barrels on a civilian's shoulder, advancing into a house and using him as a human shield. Commanders said these were the instructions and we had to do it," one soldier said.
Another said that soldiers would shoot at houses and water tanks from boredom.
"At one point, an officer decided to give a grenade-throwing training exercise. He put the soldiers in a house and they threw grenades inside until it was completely destroyed," he said. Other accounts described soldiers drawing obscene graffiti on the walls of occupied houses, or using bulldozers to systematically destroy homes.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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There are many fake news coming from unbelievable sources. They can not be believed eyes closed.I'm not saying that this is false news but am just suggesting that any news cannot be fully believed till it comes from an Israeli News channel or websites or any other reliable source
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Yes, Israel has never issued a bias news reports either nor have they ever rewritten their historypedroadams wrote:There are many fake news coming from unbelievable sources. They can not be believed eyes closed.I'm not saying that this is false news but am just suggesting that any news cannot be fully believed till it comes from an Israeli News channel or websites or any other reliable source
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You are joking right?pedroadams wrote:There are many fake news coming from unbelievable sources. They can not be believed eyes closed.I'm not saying that this is false news but am just suggesting that any news cannot be fully believed till it comes from an Israeli News channel or websites or any other reliable source
The news came from the AP wire first.
Read the article.
As far as credibility goes, lets see, we have Israeli news then we have AP wire.
Which are we gonna trust more?
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I do not believe associated press writers are always unbiased or even truthfull. Many things go unreported. Many items are simply hearsay. Many governments control their press and manipulate newsfeeds...Overt and covert psyops can be discerned by carefull reading of many diverse sources. We are very fortunate in this nation to have access to first hand and unmassaged reports. I encourage everyone to think for yourselves, it is the American Way, maybe even the Playa Way.
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As a voracious news junkie I put more faith and credibility into items from the AP than most other sources in the world. As for anything to do with Israel, considering the potential for propaganda I trust the Jerusalem Post: http://www.jpost.com/ As for the Israeli News site that was linked to, it looks like a collection of RSS feeds and that's about it...I'm not impressed by it at all and would likely dismiss it without much more thought.
One more thing...critical thinking...I always like to question the source, and have an idea who's money is backing the media I'm reading...that way I know what bias / slant I can expect and adjust my bullshit detector accordingly. I wish I wasn't in the minority on thinking this way as too many people like their media spoonfed to them.
One more thing...critical thinking...I always like to question the source, and have an idea who's money is backing the media I'm reading...that way I know what bias / slant I can expect and adjust my bullshit detector accordingly. I wish I wasn't in the minority on thinking this way as too many people like their media spoonfed to them.
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Though we can get caught up the middle east and it slower then a glacier progress, we must not forget those of jewish heritage that have made America and world a better place. Here are just a few in sports:
10 Great Jewish Sportsmen and Women
Benny Leonard (Benjamin Leiner)
(b. 1896, New York, NY, USA; d. 1947, New York, NY, USA)
One of the greatest lightweight boxers of all time and world title holder from 1917 until he retired, undefeated, in 1925. After losing all his money in the 1929 stock market crash, he made a brief comeback as a welterweight at the age of 35 . He served as a lieutenant commander in the US Maritime Service in World War ll and in 1943 returned to boxing as a referee. He was made a member of the Boxing Hall of Fame and the Jewish Sports Hall of Fame.
Harold (Maurice) Abrahams
(b. 1889, Bedford, England, UK; d. 1978, London, England, UK)
Athlete who won gold in the 100-metre dash at the 1924 Paris Olympics. Born into an athletic family, he started racing as a boy and continued as a student at Cambridge, where he became president of the university's Athletics Club. The film Chariots of Fire (1981) portrayed his rivalry with the Scottish sprinter Eric Liddell. In later life he became president of the Amateur Athletics Association as well as a respected writer
Mark (Andrew) Spitz
(b. 1950, Modesto, California, USA)
Swimming phenomenon who won bronze and silver medals and two team gold medals at the 1968 Mexico City Olympic Games. He went on to compete at the 1972 Munich Olympics, where he became the first athlete to win seven gold medals at one Games, including four for individual events. He set 23 swimming world records in his five year career.
Daniel Mendoza
(b. 1764, London, England, UK; d. 1836, London, England, UK)
Bareknuckle pugilist who became the first Jewish champion fighter. Billed as "Mendoza the Jew", his boxing success and popularity gained him social acceptance and helped to ease the position of the Jewish community in England. He introduced a style using footwork and defence rather than brute force and is considered the father of scientific boxing. He was inducted into the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fames in 1981.
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Hank Greenberg (Henry Benjamin Greenberg)
(b. 1911, New York, NY, USA; d. 1986, Beverly Hills, California, USA)
An all-round athlete at school, he became a major league baseball player and was one of the dominant players in the game in the 1930s and 40s. In 1938 he challenged Babe Ruth's 60 home run record but fell short at 58. He was the first Jewish ballplayer to be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame and in 2006 was included in a set of US postage stamps featuring baseball hitters.
Éva Székely (Gyarmati)
(b. 1927, Budapest, Hungary)
Champion swimmer who competed in three Olympic Games, winning the gold medal in the 200-metre breaststroke in Helsinki in 1952 and silver in Melbourne in 1956. During her career she broke 10 world records and 5 Olympic records. In 2004 she was elected Sportswoman of the Nation in Hungary and in 2006 was awarded the Jean Borotra Trophy by the World Olympians Association.
Jody (David) Scheckter
(b. 1950, East London, South Africa)
Son of a garage owner, he started racing go-carts as a boy and moved successfully to stock cars and American Formula 500 before joining the Formula One circuit in 1974. He won many Grand Prix races over the next few years and in 1979 became the first South African to win the world championship. He was twice voted South African Maccabi Sportsman of the year.
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Fanny "Bobbie" Rosenfeld
(b. 1904, Katrinaslov, Russia; d. 1969, Toronto, Canada)
Talented Canadian track and field athlete who set national records in the long jump, shotput, javelin and discus. She also played basketball, hockey, softball, and tennis. In 1925 she equalled the world record in the 100-yard dash, and at the 1928 Olympics in Amsterdam she won a gold medal as lead-off leg of the 100-metre relay team that set a world record of 48.4 seconds. In 1950 the Canadian Press named her as Canada’s Female Athlete of the Half-Century.
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Benjamin "Benny" Friedman
(b. 1905, Cleveland, Ohio, USA; d. 1982, New York, NY, USA)
Collegiate and professional footballer, and considered the game's first great passer. Between 1927 and 1931 he quarterbacked the Cleveland, Detroit and New York Giants football teams. He ended his professional career with the Brooklyn Dodgers, retiring in 1934 to take up coaching. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2005.
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Viktor Barna (Győző Braun)
(b. 1911 in Budapest, Hungary; d. 1972, Lima, Peru)
Brilliant table tennis player who was five times World Singles Champion between 1930 and 1935. In all he won 22 world championship gold medals and was a member of the Hungarian National Team that won seven Swaythling Cups. He served in the British army during World War ll and afterwards settled in London. In 1993 he was elected a charter member of the International Table Tennis Hall of Fame, and in his native Hungary he was honoured as “the most successful Hungarian sportsman of the twentieth century".
10 Great Jewish Sportsmen and Women
Benny Leonard (Benjamin Leiner)
(b. 1896, New York, NY, USA; d. 1947, New York, NY, USA)
One of the greatest lightweight boxers of all time and world title holder from 1917 until he retired, undefeated, in 1925. After losing all his money in the 1929 stock market crash, he made a brief comeback as a welterweight at the age of 35 . He served as a lieutenant commander in the US Maritime Service in World War ll and in 1943 returned to boxing as a referee. He was made a member of the Boxing Hall of Fame and the Jewish Sports Hall of Fame.
Harold (Maurice) Abrahams
(b. 1889, Bedford, England, UK; d. 1978, London, England, UK)
Athlete who won gold in the 100-metre dash at the 1924 Paris Olympics. Born into an athletic family, he started racing as a boy and continued as a student at Cambridge, where he became president of the university's Athletics Club. The film Chariots of Fire (1981) portrayed his rivalry with the Scottish sprinter Eric Liddell. In later life he became president of the Amateur Athletics Association as well as a respected writer
Mark (Andrew) Spitz
(b. 1950, Modesto, California, USA)
Swimming phenomenon who won bronze and silver medals and two team gold medals at the 1968 Mexico City Olympic Games. He went on to compete at the 1972 Munich Olympics, where he became the first athlete to win seven gold medals at one Games, including four for individual events. He set 23 swimming world records in his five year career.
Daniel Mendoza
(b. 1764, London, England, UK; d. 1836, London, England, UK)
Bareknuckle pugilist who became the first Jewish champion fighter. Billed as "Mendoza the Jew", his boxing success and popularity gained him social acceptance and helped to ease the position of the Jewish community in England. He introduced a style using footwork and defence rather than brute force and is considered the father of scientific boxing. He was inducted into the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fames in 1981.
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Hank Greenberg (Henry Benjamin Greenberg)
(b. 1911, New York, NY, USA; d. 1986, Beverly Hills, California, USA)
An all-round athlete at school, he became a major league baseball player and was one of the dominant players in the game in the 1930s and 40s. In 1938 he challenged Babe Ruth's 60 home run record but fell short at 58. He was the first Jewish ballplayer to be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame and in 2006 was included in a set of US postage stamps featuring baseball hitters.
Éva Székely (Gyarmati)
(b. 1927, Budapest, Hungary)
Champion swimmer who competed in three Olympic Games, winning the gold medal in the 200-metre breaststroke in Helsinki in 1952 and silver in Melbourne in 1956. During her career she broke 10 world records and 5 Olympic records. In 2004 she was elected Sportswoman of the Nation in Hungary and in 2006 was awarded the Jean Borotra Trophy by the World Olympians Association.
Jody (David) Scheckter
(b. 1950, East London, South Africa)
Son of a garage owner, he started racing go-carts as a boy and moved successfully to stock cars and American Formula 500 before joining the Formula One circuit in 1974. He won many Grand Prix races over the next few years and in 1979 became the first South African to win the world championship. He was twice voted South African Maccabi Sportsman of the year.
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Fanny "Bobbie" Rosenfeld
(b. 1904, Katrinaslov, Russia; d. 1969, Toronto, Canada)
Talented Canadian track and field athlete who set national records in the long jump, shotput, javelin and discus. She also played basketball, hockey, softball, and tennis. In 1925 she equalled the world record in the 100-yard dash, and at the 1928 Olympics in Amsterdam she won a gold medal as lead-off leg of the 100-metre relay team that set a world record of 48.4 seconds. In 1950 the Canadian Press named her as Canada’s Female Athlete of the Half-Century.
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Benjamin "Benny" Friedman
(b. 1905, Cleveland, Ohio, USA; d. 1982, New York, NY, USA)
Collegiate and professional footballer, and considered the game's first great passer. Between 1927 and 1931 he quarterbacked the Cleveland, Detroit and New York Giants football teams. He ended his professional career with the Brooklyn Dodgers, retiring in 1934 to take up coaching. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2005.
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Viktor Barna (Győző Braun)
(b. 1911 in Budapest, Hungary; d. 1972, Lima, Peru)
Brilliant table tennis player who was five times World Singles Champion between 1930 and 1935. In all he won 22 world championship gold medals and was a member of the Hungarian National Team that won seven Swaythling Cups. He served in the British army during World War ll and afterwards settled in London. In 1993 he was elected a charter member of the International Table Tennis Hall of Fame, and in his native Hungary he was honoured as “the most successful Hungarian sportsman of the twentieth century".
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Who really cares!Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Though we can get caught up the middle east and it slower then a glacier progress, we must not forget those of jewish heritage that have made America and world a better place.
The fact of the matter is Israel and those that believe in Israel are fucked up.
PERIOD!
Fact: Israel has lied about everything they have done for decades.
Black people have contributed more to society than any will evr admit. Latins have also and so have Asians.
None of that matters when it comes to what Israel is doing in the middle ease.
They are the fuck ups of the world and are the main reason behind most of the worlds wars.
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Correction: 1.2 Billion should be 1.2 Trillion.Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Israel could be around for ages if they just honor the UN agreements and work to a two nation existance.
As far as an investment, that all depends if they can exist without US aid and be productive. The aid at present levels might not be around after the amount of money we need to spend on our stimulus plans. We need another 1.2 Billion injected into our economy.
Just hope that Israel will be a true partner to peace and not one of financial and military convenience.
But can we trust them?
AIIZ
It says Jews in the title of the thread so that encompass all things Jewish. The thread says nothing about negros or latins. So you want to start one on Italians- they are the true latins.
10 Great Jewish Nobel Prize Winners
For generations Jews have left their mark in the physical sciences and medicine and have been at the forefront of scientific and technological advancement. Some of
those who have made important contributions in their fields are noted below.
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Albert Abraham Michelson (1907, Physics, USA)
(b. 1852, Strelno, Prussia; d. 1931, Pasadena, California, USA)
Specialised in optics and with E. W. Morley demonstrated that light travels at a constant speed in all inertial systems of reference (Michelson-Morley experiment). He was the first American to receive a Noble Prize in Physics, which was awarded "for his optical precision instruments and the spectroscopic and metrological investigations carried out with their aid".
More on Albert A. Michelson and his work
Books:
Stanley Goldberg and Roger H. Stuewer (eds.), The Michelson Era in American Science, 1870-1930 (1988)
Bernard Jaffe, Michelson and the Speed of Light (1960, reprinted 1979)
Dorothy M. Livingston, The Master of Light (1979, University Of Chicago)
Loyd S. Swenson, Jr., The Ethereal Aether: A History of the Michelson-Morley-Miller Aether Drift Experiments, 1880-1930 (1972).
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Niels Henrik David Bohr (1922, Physics, Denmark)
(b. 1885, Copenhagen, Denmark; d. 1962, Copenhagen, Denmark)
One of the greatest physicists of the twentieth century. The son of an eminent physiologist, he studied in Copenhagen and Cambridge and worked with Ernest Rutherford at the University of Manchester. He was involved in the development of the first atomic bomb at Los Alamos, New Mexico, and later began working to develop peaceful uses for atomic energy. He was awarded the Nobel Prize "for his services in the investigation of the structure of atoms and of the radiation emanating from them."
More on Niels Bohr
Books:
Niels Bohr, The Theory of Spectra and Atomic Constitution (University Press, Cambridge, 1922/2nd. ed., 1924)
Niels Bohr, Atomic Theory and the Description of Nature (University Press, Cambridge, 1934/reprint 1961)
Ruth Moore, Niels Bohr: The Man, His Science, and the World They Changed (Knopf, 1966)
Abraham Pais, Niels Bohr's Times, In Physics, Philosophy and Polity (Oxford University Press, USA, 1994)
Jim Ottaviani, Suspended In Language: Niels Bohr's Life, Discoveries, And The Century He Shaped (G.T. Labs, 2004)
Niels Blaedel, Harmony and Unity : The Life of Niel's Bohr (Springer, 1997)
A. P French and P.J. Kennedy (ed.), Neils Bohr: A Centenary Volume (Harvard University Press, 1987)
Michael Frayn, Copenhagen (Methuen Drama, 1998)
Stefan Rozental (ed.), Niels Bohr: His Life and Work as Seen by His Friends and Colleagues (John Wiley & Sons, 1964)
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Richard Phillips Feynman (1965, Physics, USA)
(b. 1918, New York, NY, USA; d. 1988, Los Angeles, California, USA)
Theretical physicist, teacher and populariser of science known for his contribution to the field of quantum electrodynamics. He shared the Nobel Prize with Sin-Itiro Tomonaga and Julian Schwinger "for their fundamental work in quantum electrodynamics, with deep-ploughing consequences for the physics of elementary particles". He participated in the development of the atomic bomb at Los Alamos, New Mexico, in the 1940s.
Richard Feynman Lectures
Books:
Freeman J. Dyson, Richard P. Feynman, and Jeffery Robbins, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out: The Best Short Works of Richard Feynman (Penguin Books Ltd, 2001)
Ralph Leighton and Richard P. Feynman, Surely You're Joking, Mr.Feynman!: Adventures of a Curious Character (W. W. Norton & Company, 1997)
James Gleick, Genius: Richard Feynman and Modern Physics (Abacus, 1994)
John Gribbin and Mary Gribbin, Richard Feynman: A Life in Science (Penguin USA, 1998)
Richard Phillips Feynman and Laurie M. Brown, Selected Papers of Richard Feynman: with Commentary (World Scientific Series in 20th-century Physics) (World Scientific Publishing, 2001)
Leonard Mlodinow, Feynman's Rainbow: A Search for Beauty in Physics and in Life (Warner Books, 2004)
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Max Ferdinand Perutz (1962, Chemistry, UK)
(b. 1914, Vienna, Austria; d. 2002, Cambridge, England, UK)
Left Austria in 1936 to become a research student at the Cavendish laboratory in Cambridge. He remained at Cambridge and in 1959 determined the structure of haemoglobin. He shared the Nobel Prize with British biochemist John C. Kendrew "for their studies of the structures of globular proteins". In 1988 he was awarded the Order of Merit.
Interview with Max Perutz
Books:
Max Perutz, Is Science Necessary?: Essays on Science and Scientists (Oxford University Press, USA, 1991)
Max Perutz, I Wish I'd Made You Angry Earlier: Essays on Science, Science, Scientists, and Humanity (Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press, 2002)
Max Perutz, Proteins and Nucleic Acids: Structure and Function (Elsevier Pub. Co.,1962)
Max Perutz, Science is Not a Quiet Life: Unravelling the Atomic Mechanism of Haemoglobin (World Scientific Pub. Co. Inc., 1998)
Georgina Ferry, Max Perutz and the Secret of Life (Chatto and Windus, 2007)
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Sir Ernst Boris Chain (1945, Physiology or Medicine, UK)
(b. 1906, Berlin, Germany; d. 1979, Castlebar, Ireland)
The son of a chemist and industrialist, he graduated in chemistry in Berlin in 1930. When the Nazis came to power in 1933 he emigrated to Britain where he worked as a biochemist, first in Cambridge and then at Oxford University. In 1948 he became the Scientific Director of the International Research Centre for Chemical Microbiology in Rome and, in 1961, returned to Britain on his appointment as Professor of Biochemistry at Imperial College, University of London. His research covered a wide range of topics but his best known work involved the reinvestigation of penicillin, leading to the discovery of its chemotherapeutic action. He was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1945 (with Alexander Fleming and Walter Florey) "for the discovery of penicillin and its curative effect in various infectious diseases". He was also the recipient of many international honours.
Ernst B. Chain - Banquet Speech
Books:
Ronald William Clark, The Life of Ernst Chain: Penicillin and Beyond (Palgrave Macmillan, 1986)
Ernst Chain, Howard Walter Florey, Et Al, Penicillin as a Chemotherapeutic Agent. + Further Observations on Penicillin (London, Hazell, Watson & Viney, 1940-41)
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Max Born (1954, Physics, UK)
(b. 1882, Breslau, Germany; d. 1970, Göttingen, Germany )
Born into an influential family, he was educated at the Universities of Breslau, Heidelberg, Zurich and Göttingen. After a series of academic posts he emigrated to England where he worked at Cambridge in the field of nonlinear electrodynamics and later at the University of Edinburgh as professor of natural philosophy. He became a British subject and a Fellow of the Royal Society of London in 1939. In 1954 he was awarded half the Nobel Prize "for his fundamental research in quantum mechanics, especially for his statistical interpretation of the wavefunction".
More on Max Born
Books:
Nancy Thorndike Greenspan, The End of the Certain World: The Life and Science of Max Born (Basic Books, 2005)
Albert Einstein and Max Born, The Born - Einstein Letters: Friendship, Politics and Physics in Uncertain Times (Macmillan, 2004)
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Albert Einstein (1921, Physics, USA)
(b. 1879, Ulm, Germany; d. 1955, Princeton, New Jersey, USA)
Physicist famous for his 1905 special theory of relativity and the equation e=mc², describing the relationship between energy and matter. His groundbreaking work had a profound impact on everything from quantum theory to nuclear power and the atom bomb. He won the Nobel Prize in Physics "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". In 1952 he was offered the presidency of the State of Israel, which he declined. He collaborated with Dr Chaim Weizmann in establishing the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
Einstein: His Image and Impact
Books:
Walter Isaacson, Einstein: His Life and Universe (Simon & Schuster, 2007)
Alice Calaprice, Freeman Dyson, and Albert Einstein, The New Quotable Einstein (Princeton University Press, 2005)
Albert Einstein, Albert Einstein: Out of My Later Years Through His Own Words (Castle Books, 2005)
Robert Cwiklik, Albert Einstein and the Theory of Relativity (Solutions Series) (Barron's Educational Series, 1987)
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Joshua Lederberg (1958, Physiology or Medicine, USA)
(b. 1925, Montclair, New Jersey, USA; d. 2008, New York, USA)
Important 20th century scientist whose work in genetics and microbiology helped lay the foundations of new approaches to medicine and biotechnology. At the age of 33 he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (one of three recipients) "for his discoveries concerning genetic recombination and the organization of the genetic material of bacteria". In 1994, he headed the Defense Department Task Force on Persian Gulf War Health Effects, "which concludes that there is insufficient epidemiological evidence for a coherent Gulf War Syndrome".
Interview with Prof. Lederberg
Books:
Krishna R. Dronamraju (Ed.), Haldane's Daedalus Revisited (Oxford University Press, 1995)
Joshua Lederberg (Ed. in Chief), Encyclopedia of Microbiology (Academic Press, 2000)
Samuel S. Epstein(Ed.) and Joshua Lederberg (Ed.), Drugs of Abuse: Their Genetic and Other Chronic Nonpsychiatric Hazards (The MIT Press, 1971)
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Brian David Josephson (1973, Physics, UK)
(b. 1940, Cardiff, Wales, UK)
A brilliant undergraduate at Cambridge University, he developed an interest in superconductivity which would lead him, as a 22 year old graduate student, to make important discoveries in the field. He was awarded a share of the Nobel Prize "for his theoretical predictions of the properties of a supercurrent through a tunnel barrier, in particular those phenomena which are generally known as the Josephson effects". After a period working in research in the USA he returned to Cambridge in 1967 and in 1974 was appointed Professor of Physics. His scientific curiosity took a different direction with an interest in parapsychology and the paranormal and he is currently director of the Mind-Matter Unification Project at the Cavendish Laboratory, Cambridge.
Brian Josephson on irrational bias against unconventional ideas
Books:
Brian D. Josephson, Michael A. Thalbourne, and Lance Storm, Parapsychology In The Twenty-First Century: Essays On The Future Of Psychical Research (McFarland & Company, 2004)
K. K. Likharev, Dynamics of Josephson Junctions and Circuits (CRC, 1986)
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Sir Hans Adolf Krebs (1953, Physiology or Medicine, UK)
(b. 1900, Hildesheim, Germany; d. 1981, Oxford, England, UK)
The son of an ear, nose and throat surgeon, he studied medicine and chemistry in Germany before emigrating to England in 1933. He worked in the biochemistry department at Cambridge University before becoming professor of biochemistry at the University of Sheffield in 1945 and at Oxford University in 1954. He won half of the Nobel Prize "for his discovery of the citric acid cycle", describing the key sequence of metabolic chemical reactions that produces energy in cells. He was made a Knight of the British Empire in 1958.
More on Sir Hans Krebs
Books:
Frederic L. Holmes, Hans Krebs: The Formation of a Scientific Life, 1900-33 Vol 1 (Monographs on the History & Philosophy of Biology) (Oxford University Press Inc., 1991)
Hans Adolf Krebs, W. Bartley, and J. R. Quayle, Essays in cell metabolism: Hans Krebs dedicatory volume (Wiley-Interscience, 1970
On a final note, it is sad that the current admin in Israel doesn't want a lasting peace with the partition of Jerusalem. Se we wait until the next admin. After 4,000 years. Israel hasn't learn the lessons of the past and repeats them increasing world antisemitism. The US is wise to their agents in American Government after the Iraq war.
AIIZ
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Zeus, there's never been any argument that the jews have made great contributions to the advancement of man and society. Somewhere along the line in their quest for control and superiority, some of them have lost their humanity. Yes, the (Michelson-Morley) experiment was / is very important. It proves aether drift.
If you do some serious research, you will find that the Semitic jews are not the problem. It's the Russian jews,,, the Khazars who are making all the trouble. There are very few ethnic Semitic jews in power in israel. Just as in the US, the Russian jews are dominating the halls of power.
It's become very obvious lately that much of israel is controlled by Russian mafia. The same is true in GOV. It's the murdering Khazars that are screaming for extermination. The Semitic jews got along fine before in Palestine. The Russian butchers are giving all of Judaism a bad name.
If you do some serious research, you will find that the Semitic jews are not the problem. It's the Russian jews,,, the Khazars who are making all the trouble. There are very few ethnic Semitic jews in power in israel. Just as in the US, the Russian jews are dominating the halls of power.
It's become very obvious lately that much of israel is controlled by Russian mafia. The same is true in GOV. It's the murdering Khazars that are screaming for extermination. The Semitic jews got along fine before in Palestine. The Russian butchers are giving all of Judaism a bad name.
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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Chicken and dumplings for me. Dough balls made with enriched white flour, not matso, please. I've got 10 pounds of frozen chicken legs to defrost and consume this month. I got to clear my small freezer to freeze water bottles the last week of August. I finished the last of my frozen burritos and chimichangas last week. I start using up my frozen hamburger tomorrow, I think I'll make tacos... I've got some frozen freestone peaches and some blueberries to use up also...The hotdogs and sausages can stay in the freezer door, or maybe I can BBQ them on the playa third or fourth day. Sure, hotdog Thursday...
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dan if that was true then why are american semitic jews supporting them. Where does the Ankinazis stand or are you lumping them with the russian jews?
Stop with the food unless you bring falafels to the playa! I'm on a diet.
only if you wear it to BM. The PETA people will come after you!Liz Estrada wrote:i adore chicken cordon bleu. does that make me evil?
Stop with the food unless you bring falafels to the playa! I'm on a diet.
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I'm sure that I'm doing lots of lumping. I just don't have the time to de-lump. The jews,, like the catholics are masters of throwing around guilt. My sis-in-law is a jew from New York. She was telling me how the israelis have bent over backwards to accommodate and help the arabs. With that kind of propaganda, I don't even bother to talk to her. Propaganda and guilt together work wonders.
We're getting some tasty thread drift. I'm imagining Liz as she is in her avatar,,, plastered with Chicken Kiev,,, soaked in cordon-bleu sauce,,,,, being chased by pontificating PETA pranksters. She trips and falls into an enormous vat of warm angel hair pasta. The PETA people run by and she ends up feeling like Jane Fonda in the Orgasmatron from Barbarella.
How's that for thread drift?
We're getting some tasty thread drift. I'm imagining Liz as she is in her avatar,,, plastered with Chicken Kiev,,, soaked in cordon-bleu sauce,,,,, being chased by pontificating PETA pranksters. She trips and falls into an enormous vat of warm angel hair pasta. The PETA people run by and she ends up feeling like Jane Fonda in the Orgasmatron from Barbarella.
How's that for thread drift?
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.