Henry Lewis Gates, Black Harvard Professor arrested

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:17 pm

And this has what to do with this thread?

If you would like to debate that topic in the thread it was conceived that would be a welcomed prospect. But I believe what you did is what most call here Cross posting and it is frowned upon.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:26 pm

Well, as long as you two are having fun.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:35 pm

It is kinda fun catching what she does with her posts being the veteran I am.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:19 pm

DVD Burner wrote:It is kinda fun catching what she does with her posts being the veteran I am.

DVD:
at times, you do have interesting things to say, even though most of what you post is cut and paste, and, usually to long to bother with........
I know that's easier than posting in your own words and thoughts, though, so, certainly I have no judgement on that.

Mostly, for me, you run a subject into the ground.
It is, of course, your right to do so.........

but, this fragile ego of yours.......where does it come from?
Whatever insecurity(ies) you have that cause such smarmy, caustic and obtusely directed snark and vitriol, towards anyone who disagrees with you, and, heaven forbid, shows you to be wrong........

Jeeze,,,,,,,you're being such a turd...........

I would think you'd enjoy a dialoge with a person of good nature and intellect.
your posting "cites", is, well, just that......news orgs, etc, can and do misinterpret and mis-report things all the time, so, a "cite" as such, is still quite open to debate and proof..........and is subjective, at best.

you have your beliefs, and ideas, and good for you for that. And, you have "your" truth.
But,
Others are entitled to the same.
we all know one persons truth and/or perception is not necessarily the same for another, and, both can be correct........

Narcisim isn't becoming......

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:34 pm

Yea well, like you said, everyone has their opinion.

and as far as Narcissism goes......

Yea, I can see how most would feel I'm a bit Narcissistic when it comes to this topic.

After all I do have more experience in this field than just about anyone in this thread.

so yea, I understand.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:10 pm

Hey sorry. As anyone will tell you, I am one to stay focused on the topic at hand.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:46 pm

no need to apologize.......and, we all know about your focus.......

I'm just sayin, the way your pounding on Littleflower, well, seems unnecessary............
it seems you've missed some of what she said or the points she was after, that, some of which, I saw as bolstering your claims..........

maybe you missed them, maybe you chose to ignore them, who knows.
We humans can miss things or read/take them out of context or wrong.

It seems a pattern with you, that, when contradicted, you get sort of aggressive.........sometime demeaning.
And, well, I feel your a better person than to cheapen, what could otherwise be an engaging and informative discussion, with little personal jabs and disrespect.

you have much to say, and, are obviously a person of intellect.
you are very good at focus, but, perhaps you could consider that at times focus becomes myopic............and one might miss some good points and such by not taking a wider view.........

I don't have your intellect or ability to research topics.
But, still feel, if I must disagree with you, I can, and, would like to think you'd listen to my arguments and with an open mind, and consider my words, even if they don't agree with you.............
and, if I can't, or won't, "cite" a particular news organization or whatever, well, dang.........maybe I'm just not that good at it........
It doesn't mean I'm wrong, or lying............
remember, absence of verification does indicate non-existence, or, inaccuracy.........( I just butchered a really good line someone else used, but, I can't remember where).

well,
I guess I'd just say that I do enjoy some of what you post, and, acknowledge your contributions...........
it was just somewhat uncomfortable to see it degrade into a pissing contest, name calling and disrespect.....etc...........

I'll go back to the shadows with the uninformed masses now............

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goathead · Post by **goathead** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:56 pm

DVD Burner wrote: Yea, I can see how most would feel I'm a bit Narcissistic when it comes to this topic.

After all I do have more experience in this field than just about anyone in this thread.

That is because most of the rest of us look to this place as a refugee from Mundania, while you seem to want to drag in in kicking and screaming..

Most of the rest of us have lives and enjoy the wide variety it has to offer here. While you just do what you do, and claim VICTORY by default.

Visit the bar sometime, get a life.

DoriumLux · Post by **DoriumLux** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:15 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Yea well, like you said, everyone has their opinion.

and as far as Narcissism goes......

Yea, I can see how most would feel I'm a bit Narcissistic when it comes to this topic.

After all I do have more experience in this field than just about anyone in this thread.

so yea, I understand.

Really? Wow. That is one wild assumption to claim to have more experience than anyone in this thread. Narcissistic? You sound like megalomaniac for making such bold statements. What are your qualifications? How can you assume to know more than anyone else when you don't even know who you are dealing with and their experiences/background? It's incredibly arrogant and close minded to assume such things. In my experience "know it alls" usually don't know shit.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:11 am

DoriumLux wrote:
Really? Wow. That is one wild assumption to claim to have more experience than anyone in this thread. Narcissistic? You sound like megalomaniac for making such bold statements. What are your qualifications? How can you assume to know more than anyone else when you don't even know who you are dealing with and their experiences/background? It's incredibly arrogant and close minded to assume such things. In my experience "know it alls" usually don't know shit.

LMFAO! Nice try.

Dont really know what your problem is and dont really care. You are not a male and you certainly are not black:

DoriumLux wrote: What the hell does that even mean? Hell, my Mexican boyfriend who is sitting next to me is also confused. I just tried "telling" it to him. He is wondering if you are denying there is a power imbalance? White men do have more power in this country considering the politicians, the corporate ceo's, police and other authority figures/decision makers in this nation which are disproportionately white.

And even if you are black, there is no way a black female can have the same experience as a black male when it comes to cops.

Really dont care what you have to say about it.

You are new here.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:19 am

So you're black?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:23 am

Half and half. and the other half is not white.

It's what constantly gets me in trouble.

It pisses most off that I'm "not as black" as I should be.

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:55 am

DVD Burner wrote:Half and half. and the other half is not white.

It's what constantly gets me in trouble.

It pisses most off that I'm "not as black" as I should be.

you're sounding... quite 20th century.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:56 am

Anyway, this thread is not about me, it's about race relations between black males and cops.

Here are the facts whether anyone wants to hear them or not.

Race relations will always be the same between black males and cops for several simple reasons.

First off, cops are dumb.

Lets face facts folks, there is not a smart person that will take on a job like that.

second, black guys in general are pretty smooth. It's enough to make any white cop or any cop or high in testosterone guy get upset.

black guys come up with the styles first, the lingo first, the music first, the dance first .....well I can go on and on, but you get the idea.

( Hey now you know I could not pass that up. Gotta have some fun sometime)

WORD!

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:00 am

joel the ornery wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:Half and half. and the other half is not white.

It's what constantly gets me in trouble.

It pisses most off that I'm "not as black" as I should be.

you're sounding... quite 20th century.

Quite the contrary and you know that.

You know where I am going with this and yea, towards the 22 century.

Yep!

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:04 am

DVD Burner wrote:First off, cops are dumb.

Lets face facts folks, there is not a smart person that will take on a job like that.

second, black guys in general are pretty smooth. It's enough to make any white cop or any cop or high in testosterone guy get upset.

black guys come up with the styles first, the lingo first, the music first, the dance first .....well I can go on and on, but you get the idea.

you are quite the soup sandwich.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:06 am

Oh oh oh, not to mention.....well......

there is that pigmented myth that goes along with the big hands and big feet.
That can anger any guy........and ........

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 am

ygmir wrote:no need to apologize.......and, we all know about your focus.......

I'm just sayin, the way your pounding on Littleflower, well, seems unnecessary............
it seems you've missed some of what she said or the points she was after, that, some of which, I saw as bolstering your claims..........

maybe you missed them, maybe you chose to ignore them, who knows.
We humans can miss things or read/take them out of context or wrong.

It seems a pattern with you, that, when contradicted, you get sort of aggressive.........sometime demeaning.
And, well, I feel your a better person than to cheapen, what could otherwise be an engaging and informative discussion, with little personal jabs and disrespect.

you have much to say, and, are obviously a person of intellect.
you are very good at focus, but, perhaps you could consider that at times focus becomes myopic............and one might miss some good points and such by not taking a wider view.........

I don't have your intellect or ability to research topics.
But, still feel, if I must disagree with you, I can, and, would like to think you'd listen to my arguments and with an open mind, and consider my words, even if they don't agree with you.............
and, if I can't, or won't, "cite" a particular news organization or whatever, well, dang.........maybe I'm just not that good at it........
It doesn't mean I'm wrong, or lying............
remember, absence of verification does indicate non-existence, or, inaccuracy.........( I just butchered a really good line someone else used, but, I can't remember where).

well,
I guess I'd just say that I do enjoy some of what you post, and, acknowledge your contributions...........
it was just somewhat uncomfortable to see it degrade into a pissing contest, name calling and disrespect.....etc...........

I'll go back to the shadows with the uninformed masses now............

*

[youtube][/youtube]

goathead wrote:
DVD Burner wrote: Yea, I can see how most would feel I'm a bit Narcissistic when it comes to this topic.

After all I do have more experience in this field than just about anyone in this thread.
That is because most of the rest of us look to this place as a refugee from Mundania, while you seem to want to drag in in kicking and screaming..

Most of the rest of us have lives and enjoy the wide variety it has to offer here. While you just do what you do, and claim VICTORY by default.

Visit the bar sometime, get a life.

Just wanted to let you both know i did read what you posted and did want to respond.

I dont see how in the world you guys could read a thread like this and not expect to see some friction in it.

The topic of this thread is a rather sensitive one.

Lighten up!

I try to inject humor when making my point but hey, what do you know, I'm not a comedian.

I still think most of the stuff I post is rather funny in that black comedy sorta way......if you can excuse the pun.

dvd-r · Post by **dvd-r** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:50 am

I thought this thread and the questions it posed were being worked out in a very intelligent and thoughtful manner.

Now it seems to have become something different.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:55 am

Well there really isn't very much more to this thread.

personally speaking and in all seriousness, cops will be cops. This will never change.

Not in my life time anyway.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:46 pm

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... _an_idiot/

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:06 pm

Well, it's been two weeks and he hasn't re-offended.

Deb Prothero · Post by **Deb Prothero** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:07 pm

A tale worthy of the court jester!

Nice find, littleflower.

Although another act may be required to include the officer with the email and letter to the Editor which does illustrate some changes need to be made in that police force.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:09 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
And even if you are black, there is no way a black female can have the same experience as a black male when it comes to cops.

Really dont care what you have to say about it.

You are new here. :lol:

DVD, that's the dumbest bigoted fucking statement!

So you're a misogynist along with being a bigot and xenophobe.

and you're a dumb fuck if not for starting this thread but not letting it die!

AIIZ

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:11 pm

i was thinking the same thing, deb ... if i find a second act, i will post it.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:22 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:
And even if you are black, there is no way a black female can have the same experience as a black male when it comes to cops.

Really dont care what you have to say about it.

You are new here.
DVD, that's the dumbest bigoted fucking statement!

So you're a misogynist along with being a racist and xenophobe.

and you're a dumb fuck if not for stating this thread but not letting it die!

AIIZ

***again, I find myself agreeing with AZ...........****

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:32 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
and you're a dumb fuck if not for starting this thread but not letting it die!

AIIZ

zeusy ....

i just restarted it, on a non-DVD theme...

isn't it you, who is the dumb-fuck, for trying to drag him back into it?

Glittering Clitoris · Post by **Glittering Clitoris** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:28 pm

littleflower wrote:
Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
and you're a dumb fuck if not for starting this thread but not letting it die!

AIIZ
zeusy ....

i just restarted it, on a non-DVD theme...

isn't it you, who is the dumb-fuck, for trying to drag him back into it?

Oh, so you what to exchange recipes for thread death.

If so a bump isn't one of them!

Glit Clit

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:23 pm

ygmir wrote:
Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:
And even if you are black, there is no way a black female can have the same experience as a black male when it comes to cops.

Really dont care what you have to say about it.

You are new here.
DVD, that's the dumbest bigoted fucking statement!

So you're a misogynist along with being a racist and xenophobe.

and you're a dumb fuck if not for stating this thread but not letting it die!

AIIZ
***again, I find myself agreeing with AZ...........****

You guys are too much. This has gotten people on eplaya in trouble before.

Tony Tohono, and Brian......

folks, dvd-r is not me.

He is his own entity.

Yall are wrong again and Cheers!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:47 pm

DVD-R not DVD-Burner

me bad! I appologize DVD eerrh Burner on that you did not start the thread. But do you see how you were so reactionary? See how Gates too was reactionary as well? Gates can be billergerent in his defense mode too. And so triggers the Cop's billergerent mode. And her we are still defending Gates, the cop and US!

Sometimes the best reaction is not giving the Finger, but the Peace Sign!

I use it during traffic incidents. It works!

DVD-R this would have been better as a post in the "politics" or "let go down to Houston and Kick some Cops Ass" threads.

So in the manner of BM, to all those going to BM, Fuck You and have a fucking great time cuz I'm not going!

If you feel a rain drop or two, it might just be my tears and all the other burners that can't make it this year!

AIIZ