I'd not say I was equating, so much as comparing........lurker wrote:I have to take exception to this, ygmir. I did not post a series of ill-thought out profanity laced posts whose basic point is that most people agree and want this healthcare bill to pass--whose only corroboration is the whitehouse site.to me, neither one of you is convincing, but, are sounding like the same song, from, different sides of the fence.........
I agree, you are much more polite. I was meaning that, the tenor from both of you is similar.......I tried to be careful not to make specific comparisons, but, that you both use similar type analogies and examples, backed by mostly the same sort of info.
And my base argument is that everything that the protesters are doing are things that people like AIIZ supported, even lauded, when they came from the left.not that that's bad, I don't mean it derogatory, I just mean your arguments are quite similar, in their opposing viewpoints........
Even the 'most people' point was derided when the left was in the minority.
I agree
This line is most telling after the random scattershot insulting and profanity that characterised AIIZs posts. He plonked me after the rather mild sarcastic use of 'wit'---while having rolled through the thread with insults and profanity directed at those who did not accept his premise.Thanks for bringing down a discussion to name calling which is one of your tactics when you are losing.
It actually suggests that it is he who yells and insults when he's losing--because he clearly is.
That SEIU cite proves my point handily
Likewise, I did not dispute the 71% line--because it's true. But, alone, it's deceptive. I want healthcare reform--but I've shown that the reform I want--as PART of that 71%--is radically different from what he says 'most' people want. In polls, 'most' people do not want socialized healthcare when the question is put to them--even as they say they want reform. Again, my point is simple fact. And it is fact that allows for those who want socialized medicine to stand equally with all the rest who want healthcare reform.
Then there is the sad fact that these protests are largely moot. The Democrats can do what they want. The best we can hope for is that the passage of this thing, in the manner that it will be passed, will cause a rout in the 2010 elections that will allow this abomination to be repealed before too much damage is done.
Finally, please don't equate me with AIIZ. I can, and have produced cites for what I say(though they are largely ignored or derided) on my arguments. I don't refuse to answer and I try to speak to each point in the posts I respond to.
yes, you two have different styles, in specifics.........
And, I do enjoy your arguments.
You two are very opposed in this, in so many ways.......and, I am enjoying reading the interaction.......
all this, IMHO, of course......
I am sure there are plenty of such stories on this side of the border. 
