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Post by ygmir » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:38 am

Abductor wrote:tl;dr

You guys do know their total sham "Volunteer Ministries" camp is going to be at Burning Man this year, yes?

I plan to be dedicating a good couple of hours to standing outside their camp with a bullhorn and handing out fliers. Would love to hook up with anyone else who wants them to know that wherever they go, we are there.
wow, interesting......opposing view points?

will anyone be picketing other religious camps?

will the moslems come picket us Pagans?..

HHHmmm......just wondering about that "radical inclusion" thing.........
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Post by Super Genius » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:16 pm

I would agree with you but Scientology isn't a religion.

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Post by ygmir » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:27 pm

semantics.......you know the point I'm making........
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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:51 pm

Super Genius wrote:I would agree with you but Scientology isn't a religion.
Whatever it is, it serves the same function as religions in many respects. An origin story of the world and humanity. Lessons in how to live your life. It doesn't seem to provide ecstatic rites.
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Post by Super Genius » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:32 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
Super Genius wrote:I would agree with you but Scientology isn't a religion.
Whatever it is, it serves the same function as religions in many respects. An origin story of the world and humanity. Lessons in how to live your life. It doesn't seem to provide ecstatic rites.
I can put lipstick on a pit-bull but that doesn't make it a lady.

I think the bottom line is if your organization is involved in human trafficking, coerced abortions, and has a church policy stating enemies of the organization "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed." you shouldn't expect to be radically included in anything.

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Post by ygmir » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:16 pm

Super Genius wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
Super Genius wrote:I would agree with you but Scientology isn't a religion.
Whatever it is, it serves the same function as religions in many respects. An origin story of the world and humanity. Lessons in how to live your life. It doesn't seem to provide ecstatic rites.
I can put lipstick on a pit-bull but that doesn't make it a lady.

I think the bottom line is if your organization is involved in human trafficking, coerced abortions, and has a church policy stating enemies of the organization "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed." you shouldn't expect to be radically included in anything.
well, how many religions did you just describe?.........in whole or in part.

and, either you are inclusive or, you're not...........I don't care personally which you, personally are, but I'm saying, in BRC, if it's inclusive, anyone has the right to be there.........and, with some modicum of respect. But, that's just my take on it..........

you go ahead and harass the moslems, jews, christians, catholics, etc. etc.......It may be fun for ya........but , if you don't, it would seem you stand the risk of a "prejudice" moniker..........

now, leave us Pagans alone, though............we're from Denmark, we have butter cookies, and, we're not afraid to use them..........
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Post by Super Genius » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:36 pm

ygmir wrote: well, how many religions did you just describe?.........in whole or in part.

and, either you are inclusive or, you're not...........I don't care personally which you, personally are, but I'm saying, in BRC, if it's inclusive, anyone has the right to be there.........and, with some modicum of respect. But, that's just my take on it..........

you go ahead and harass the moslems, jews, christians, catholics, etc. etc.......It may be fun for ya........but , if you don't, it would seem you stand the risk of a "prejudice" moniker..........

now, leave us Pagans alone, though............we're from Denmark, we have butter cookies, and, we're not afraid to use them..........
I don't think I described -any- major religions there, at least no modern incarnations of them. And if there are I'll be there telling people about them after I'm done with Scientology.

I agree that everyone has the right to be in BRC, I don't think they automatically deserve any respect though.

If it makes me prejudiced because I want to expose the numerous human rights violations of that organization, then I'll take that label.

Don't even get me started on Pegans...those poor lions..and that virgin Connie Swale. ;-)

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Post by ygmir » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:31 am

Well,
thanks for clarifying........

while we don't exactly agree, I understand what you're saying and, appreciate your thoughts.

I also, appreciate, the dialog you give, meaningful and thoughtful, not rude or obnoxious............
Something quite often missing in electronic debate.
thanks for that.

I wish you a great burn..........
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Post by wedeliver » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:43 am

Super Genius wrote:.........I agree that everyone has the right to be in BRC, I don't think they automatically deserve any respect though.
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Thats fucked up.
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Post by Super Genius » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:31 am

ygmir wrote:Well,
thanks for clarifying........

while we don't exactly agree, I understand what you're saying and, appreciate your thoughts.

I also, appreciate, the dialog you give, meaningful and thoughtful, not rude or obnoxious............
Something quite often missing in electronic debate.
thanks for that.

I wish you a great burn..........
Right back atcha, maybe next week we can get together over a beer and talk about something less controversial...like sex and politics.

AND...
wedeliver wrote:Thats fucked up.
I won't be respecting the KKK, WBC, Nazis, or baby fuckers if they are in BRC either.

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Post by ygmir » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:35 am

Super Genius wrote:
ygmir wrote:Well,
thanks for clarifying........

while we don't exactly agree, I understand what you're saying and, appreciate your thoughts.

I also, appreciate, the dialog you give, meaningful and thoughtful, not rude or obnoxious............
Something quite often missing in electronic debate.
thanks for that.

I wish you a great burn..........
Right back atcha, maybe next week we can get together over a beer and talk about something less controversial...like sex and politics.

haha, we can then discuss fuckin politicians.....hahahaha

a drink would be grand.......say, eplaya mng on Thursday evening, barbie death camp

Whats WBC? I like Warner Brothers Cartoons........

AND...
wedeliver wrote:Thats fucked up.
I won't be respecting the KKK, WBC, Nazis, or baby fuckers if they are in BRC either.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:49 am

If they are going to be passing out flyers...well, we don't have to give moopsters much respect.
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Post by wedeliver » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:09 pm

wow, fishy, you made me have a thought...

I wonder how a real book burning would feel at BM. L Ron Hubbard up in smoke, could that be a statement.

fahrenheit 451, humm, I wonder what else, what other books there might be that it would be a good idea to burn. what about the bible? The Torah, The Quran.

any one want to be a south park fireman?
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Post by Abductor » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:03 pm

Irrelevant. They didn't show.

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