Palestine? Malta?

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:40 pm

Anybody out there?

Borris · Post by **Borris** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:37 am

Israel, yes.

Palestine? not really...

darkday · Post by **darkday** » Fri May 14, 2004 7:06 am

mmm israel is in palestine.... it doesnt matter if you think your people have a chance to rob a land of its rightful owners it will alwasy be theirs, you are an invader and deserve to be treated as such as long as you dont reach an agreement favorable to palestinians. PALESTINE FOR THE PALESTINIANS.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri May 14, 2004 8:57 am

mmm israel is in palestine.... it doesnt matter if you think your people have a chance to rob a land of its rightful owners it will alwasy be theirs, you are an invader and deserve to be treated as such as long as you dont reach an agreement favorable to palestinians. PALESTINE FOR THE PALESTINIANS.

Hey Darkday, maybe go pack a bit of sand up your ass along with your jingistic belchings. I think there's enough divisivness happening in the world these days without you dragging your presumptions and personal political biases to the front steps of this particular thread. Take it over to the 'Politics' section.

Boris provided simple answer to a simple question.

elpeyotebrujo · Post by **elpeyotebrujo** » Fri May 14, 2004 5:46 pm

well badger i dont give a damn pendejo.

PALESTINA FOR PALESTINIANS!.
PALESTINA FOR PALESTINIANS!.
PALESTINA FOR PALESTINIANS!.
PALESTINA FOR PALESTINIANS!.
PALESTINA FOR PALESTINIANS!.

israel IS in palestina, and i cant close my eyes and pretend that israelis arent stealing palestines land and now pretending they are the rightful owners of it by even changing the name of it. he didnt provide an answer he just provided a lie.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri May 14, 2004 11:38 pm

<snore!>

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:55 pm

both Palestinians and Israelis are welcome to the playa....here we know how to live together and respect one another.....if they really have to...they can go the Thunder Dome.....but darkday, I'm with you bro on this one

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:58 am

cowboyangel wrote:both Palestinians and Israelis are welcome to the playa....here we know how to live together and respect one another.....if they really have to...they can go the Thunder Dome.....but darkday, I'm with you bro on this one

I am asking for a point of clarification... Palestine is for Palestinians, yet does that require/endorse the extinction via suicide bombing among other techniques of Israeli citizens?

Please note... I believe the military options used by the Israeli government to be unwise, yet legitimate... at least as legitimate as suicide/homocide bombers blowing up non-combatants.

and... where would you displace the Israeli people to, if Palestine is returned to the Palestinians?

(tongue firmly in cheek) Can we send them to Long Beach, CA?

My position on the entire region is.... we (humans) had all better to learn how to "work and play well with others" or we (humans) are relegated to continue the murder/suicide behavior we all see so much of on the news.

Please note, I took the side of the humans on this one.

elpeyotebrujo · Post by **elpeyotebrujo** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:23 pm

simply joel: while i dont endorse terrorism i understand it in the palestinian/israeli case. palestinians are the opressed ones here i suppose you already know that, its a david vs. goliath scene israelis have nukes and palestinians suicide bombers i for one have always preferred to be on the underdog side so i guess that palestinians have the right to blow up invaders. did you know that before creating israel in PALESTINE another option was to have it created in some place of africa with low density population? but the sionist leaders chose israel out of religious crap setting the stage for today so fuck them. israle doesnt want peace in the middle east, it wants DOMINANCE it wants to IMPOSE and it wants to FUCK UP THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS OF THAT LAND!. its not possible to displace israelis you know that very well so dont treat me as a stupid shit, a solution to the conflict would be if the israelis simply accepted that they are not wanted there for historic, religious and political reasons so they should learn to be good neighbors to earn a change in the view and treatment of palestinians and all people of the middle east.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:32 pm

This really should be taken ove to the politics thread before it gets further contaminated by a discussion that inevitably gets ugly.

This is way, WAY off-topic for a regionals connection thread.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:56 pm

Borris wrote:Israel, yes.

Palestine? not really...

Yes, Boris that wasn't needed!

E-Play-a Nice Everyone!

A II Z

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:22 pm

Badger wrote:This really should be taken ove to the politics thread before it gets further contaminated by a discussion that inevitably gets ugly.

This is way, WAY off-topic for a regionals connection thread.

Badger, You and I are agreeing. I tried to suggest that on Lizwiz's thread along time ago and got chewed out for it. I think know matter what these people do what will happen in real life will happen on eplaya and the playa. they will be just as inconciderate spreading their disease of fighting and hatered everywhere.
there really is no end to it all.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:24 pm

Note though, in every case it has been people for Isreal that have been rather obnoxious when it was not warrented. check each thread out.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:13 am

Well, darned if it ain't the board of de facto dicktators of Hitler Youth Camp.

Might be funny if they actually showed their putrid asses at Burning Man, but all they can do is fart all over the eplaya.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:17 am

It would have been nice if you had used some of that perceived intelligence of yours Bob to see the bigger picture and note the very big point of what Badger has said.

help not hindrance and ridicule is key here dont ya think?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:54 am

And Bob.....Why is it I always have to read your shit several times to get it.

Dood can you make your statements simpler for socks like me please.

JimmyChaotic · Post by **JimmyChaotic** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:37 pm

Palistine wants isreal out....but they are warmongers too....they do not want peace.....I have friends on both sides of the coin....they need to take three people into consideration Ghandi.Mandela, and King. It's time, as humans, we choose to evolve........The Playa or the E-Playa is no place for this discussion....We are supposed to be a united community....No?

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:25 pm

JimmyChaotic wrote:.but they are warmongers too....they do not want peace........they need to take three people into consideration Ghandi.Mandela, and King.

ISM (www.palsolidarity.org)
Israeli Committee Against Housing Demolitions (http://www.icahd.org/eng/)
Shministim (http://www.shministim.org/english/index.htm)

I will give you more P&J groups if you would like. Also many individuals, writer, filmmakers, community groups, people who bring children of both sides together. My 'little brother' got to go to Italy with a group of Israeli teenagers. He was one of two Palestinians. It's a bid to create long lasting peace based on shared knowledge of the 'other' as people.

Everyone wants peace. We just differ on justice and the routes to get there.

Non-violence and peace are also not necessarily the same thing. In the best of all possible worlds they are the same.

Generalizations are not productive.

Dude, what happened to this thread anyway? Jaysus, Mary, Joseph, and Patrick, it's a battleground.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:22 pm

what about the sephardic (indigenous) jews?

JimmyChaotic · Post by **JimmyChaotic** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:16 pm

I agree....I have some regrets about using the word "warmonger". But as I understand, both sides hate what the other side is trying to do , with such passion that violence seems to be an acceptable answer....Like in South Africa.....Violence only leads to more violence. Anytime an official on either side comes to power and tries to work towards a non-violent solution...His life becomes threatened by his own side.....this does not seem to be very productive, I think this is one of the many reasons our community has created a place where ethnic and religous lines are not drawn....We are all just being human-beings, being human-beings, and part of that is anger.....but we can evolve away from anger to the point of hate

Palestine? Malta?

Palestine? Malta?

You have identified the problem, what is the solution?