The Bar... Volume#2

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Post by sputnik » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:52 pm

TGIF indeed. I'm trying to decide between beer and something harder, but thinking beer is what I want
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Post by littleflower » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:00 pm

hey, sputnik ... how about beer AND something harder???

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:03 pm

if he doesnt want it, i'll have that there boilermaker...


for medicinal purposes, of course.
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Post by sputnik » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:08 pm

One for me and one for you Simon

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:16 pm

thanks sputnik....it's been one of those days....gnashing my teeth all day and i dont even have any bad acid to show for it.


"go with the flow"

"take the path of least resistance"

"you win when you give up"




bullshit....i fight and struggle and rage hard, and i'm not even a drunken irish poet.

i'm a drunken american one...


here's to you Crane, and Ezra, here's to H.G. and T.S. too, and lastly, here's to you Dylan (mr. thomas, not bob, although he's alright too), my first born son's middle name in your honor.

here's to eplaya and the eplayans...

i'm done fighting for the day...time to drink and be merry, for tomorrow we decompress.
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Post by littleflower » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:28 pm

enjoy portland, simon! i'll be there in about a month, for my red-hot niece's 21st birthday thingy ... if i'm lucky enough to catch you on the street, checking her out, i'll smack you one :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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a girl in every Portland.

Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:32 pm

well littleflower, i'll just be there for a day or two and then down to ashland for a spell.

so no, i wont get to meet you and your red hot niece for her twenty-first birthday.


and if i meet her beforehand by chance, i promise, i'll be a perfect gentleman.

20 years old is off limits for me.

21 she can make her own decisions :twisted:
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Re: a girl in every Portland.

Post by littleflower » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:35 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:
21 she can make her own decisions :twisted:
believe me, she makes her own decisions now! :lol:

enjoy ashland, it's lovely there ...

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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:43 pm

Simon wouldn't do that, littleflower, would he? He was so polite when I was with him. Geez, maybe he was fooling me. :shock: :P :shock:

Nice to hear from Oldguy, hadn't seen you in awhile. Love your updates and glad you're on a more regular sleep schedule.

Sputnik you've got an interesting weekend planned. Have fun with those couchsurfer hosts on Sunday. Clean out the change in your couches first though they know what to look for. :D

So happy your day is moving along a little smoother this evening Simon and I hope you get lots of burner love at the Decomp tomorrow.

Here is a little tune that was part of the Neil Young film that I saw in Woodstock. Eventually this is going to be released.

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and just cause you might like to see the lyrics, here they are:

I feel like I just woke up
from a bad dream
And it's so good to have you
sleeping by my side
Although I'm not so sure
if I even know your name
Hold on, baby, hold on
We can go gliding through the air
Far from the jeers and lies

Yeah you are the one
I'm talkin' to this morning
With your mind so fine
and your friendly body lying
In my bungalow with stucco
With glory and sunset spa
Hold on, baby, hold on
It doesn't matter if you're the one
'Cause we'll know before we're done

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Post by littleflower » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:02 pm

Deb Prothero wrote:Simon wouldn't do that, littleflower, would he
i said "check her out," he can be gentlemanly while doing it .... i love watching guys try not to look like they're looking while they're checking out a hot young thing .... hee

did you make your decision, deb? can i get you, or sputnik, or simon (or anyone else hanging around) a drink????

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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:19 pm

Thanks for asking, littleflower.

A glass of red wine would be real nice.

I postponed my bank appointment til tomorrow morning due to dealing with the furnace guys.

I'm not sure if I've finalized my decision but I'm leaning toward keeping my house and signing the second mortgage. But I'm open to any sound reason otherwise.

What I have learned is that I actually don't know a real process for making a decision. Like a real logical step-by-step process. How do you weigh all of these factors into such a big decision? Mostly it feels emotional to me.

I'm worried and I'm scared of doing this alone but I have figured out what the price is going to be. I'll be more cash strapped than I have been before but I love my house and I like living here so I guess it's the right thing to do.

And if it turns out badly, I will rent out the house and live in my son's spare room for a year until I can rally some resources together to pay it down faster. The interest rate is pretty good and the payments are not out of this world just a little uncomfortable.

[quote} i said "check her out," he can be gentlemanly while doing it .... i love watching guys try not to look like they're looking while they're checking out a hot young thing .... hee [/quote]

I agree, it's fun to watch them pretend they aren't looking. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by littleflower » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:39 pm

mmmm ... red wine sounds good ....

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i'm in a similar situation, sort of ... i have to get a job, but the thought of the high paying kind i was formerly in makes me want to vomit ...

i love my home, which i could sell at a decent profit ... but the timing doesn't work, for various reasons ...

nothing is ever easy, is it?

i guess we just gotta go with a decision, and do what we will with it ...

it's hard though, when you have only one day left to decide.

and now, to my paints ..... enjoy!

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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:41 pm

oooooooh, what are you painting, littleflower?

Thanks for the wine. That will hit the spot.

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Post by sputnik » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:41 pm

Just signing off at this end LF. Thanks for the drink earlier.

Goodnight all
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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:42 pm

g'night Sputnik.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:43 pm

I don' t know if humans can easily make good decisions. I think it all comes down to emotions in the end anyway. It's good to be able to do research, but in the end it only keeps you from making the really obvious mistakes.
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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:48 pm

You may well be right on that, Crypto.

I wanted to share though about what I was feeling to get feedback - just like you have done. I realized I was completely inadequate in training on how to make this decision so it ended up being about loving my home and wanting to be here more than the difficulty that this would cause.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:22 pm

You may need a way to, for instance, figure out how long you'd be paying the Mmortgage and how much monthly, but I pretty much believe ou're going to make the decision you're going to make whatever the math says. better to go into it knowing that's what you want. The technique that I like--although I never use it--is to flip a coin. If you get heads and your heart says "Yes!" then you go for it. If you get tails and your heart shrinks, well you know what you want.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:18 pm

that is how i make all of my major decisions, fishy.

it is the only way.

the coin will always tell you what you already know.
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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:21 pm

Yeah, well I did get the data from the bank about costs, interest rate and term length, etc.. But none of that swayed me one way or the other in a decisive way. In other words, there were too many choices available. It is entirely possible for me to afford this and meet my obligations. On the other hand, as a single person I will have less free money for fun stuff. It will be a bit of a burden.

So then I let the decision become one of the heart, I guess.

I made up a Plan B for if I feel too constricted or house poor, as they call it here. And I was still swinging in the breeze between selling and keeping it.

The key factor which is beyond my control is the state of this economy. If things get really bad, I could be in trouble with lack of ability to earn money. That's the one that really is scary.

Anyway, I'm scheduled for an appointment to sign a second mortgage tomorrow AM and to buy out my ex-husband so the house will be mine (and the bank's).

I am scared but walking into fear is also a good way to grow, at least it's worked for me before. So here I go, one foot in front of the other. And I am imagining you all cheering me on (or laughing at me) on the sidelines.

Time for one more glass of wine, then off to bed.

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Post by Kinetik V » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:25 pm

If anyone on here is good at working on 2 stroke engines...I'm in the process of modifying a Vespa scooter to turn it into an art car of sorts (it's not your smoky pre-mix, smoke belcher, it's a lot more advanced than that). Had the thing running but now...ugh...If anyone would let me run some t-shooting scenarios by them...I'd appreciate it.

Meanwhile I could sure use something to drink....I'm so thirsty even water sounds good.
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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:34 pm

This will get you started Kinetic V or shall we call you papa!

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Whatever else is your preference, I can see what's behind the bar???

I don't have a clue about engines so I am no help in that area but I can keep you company for a second as you take a break!

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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:37 pm

aha, there's the two stroke man, himself - Simon! How are you now, sweetiee?

Kinetic V may have a question for you.

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Post by Kinetik V » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:41 pm

Not a papa yet...December 18th is the due date. And things are looking good...weight is right on track, all of her tests are coming out ok, and he kicks. Oh man does he kick!

As far as the bar goes...beer, whisky, a shot of anything with a chaser will do just fine.
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Post by Deb Prothero » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:17 pm

Hey, Kinetic V

Happy to hear everything's on track for December 18th. That was a good chat earlier today on the circumcision issue. I enjoyed the discussion.

How about Beer with a Whiskey chaser,,,

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:23 pm

its either spark gas or air Kinetic...test the plugs first by seeing if they have a spark.

do this by pulling it out (i assume there is only one) and holding the end to the frame, crank it and look to see if you have spark. Also, the CDI units tend to fry in those guys. Check that if you are not getting spark..(also get as new plug FIRST...it may be the cheapest fastest solution)

next move on to fuel, and see if your carb is clean.

then to the air filter / supply.

chances are it's one of the first two, usually spark or gas.

good luck, give me some symptoms and i might be able to help.
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Post by Kinetik V » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:51 pm

Sent you a PM with the details...warning it's long but it documents all the t-shooting done so far. I'm just stumped...you name it I've tried it short of ripping out the proverbial kitchen sink and tossing it at the thing or just putting it up for sale on Craigslist and finding another donor scoot for the project. And even worse...this may not be the project that gets to the playa next year...but I'm not there yet. Gotta keep fighting. I hate having some piece of Italian engineering drive me up the dang wall!
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Post by Elorrum » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:10 am

coffee is brewing. Thinking of checking out Santa Cruz decom. or working on my little subwoofer
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LAT250http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?P ... er=181-774 this will fit in a small enclosure, 1liter/2liter sealed on one side, tuned port on the other. I'm thinking sonotube, or 6" pvc. should be dust resistant. Not a big sound, but hoping for a nice bass addition, combined with two small 2" satellites that I want to build into some pvc pipe speakers, powered by small t-amp, with a passive crossover. This is one project that didn't get finished for 2009. It's all bare parts at the moment. It ain't gonna be ooontz oontz oontz, but Nina Simone will sing sweetly.

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Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:15 am

HI Everyone..........

well,
time for coffee?

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Kinetic:
I've some experience with small engines, as well.....and would be glad to try to help.
If the obvious things don't work, you might also check to make sure the intake manifold (assuming there is one), or, connection from carb. to head, is air tight.......I've had a vacuum leak there give me fits in diagnosing stuff.......

Simon got you off on the right foot, though..........

let us know how it comes out.
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Post by gyre » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:26 am

Elorrum, I'm not sure how this would be dust resistant.
Are you looking for vocal quality?
Size and power constraints?
I think a single sub is not your best choice.
I have had good luck with very long ports.
I'm not sure at what point they become folded horns.
But bulky and peaky.
I like to tune in a peak below the low end.
Planning one with a 50' port, stereo naturally.

What about larger single drivers and cover them?

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