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"Shas Chairman Eli Yishai condemned the UN council's decision calling it an anti-Israel decision based on an anti-Israel report."
Well, israel has ignored over 100 resolutions concerning it's actions. Maybe it's time that there was an anti israel decision,,,, that was actually followed through on.
Well, israel has ignored over 100 resolutions concerning it's actions. Maybe it's time that there was an anti israel decision,,,, that was actually followed through on.
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Just noticed AP wire took this article off line.
DVD Burner wrote:Group: Settlement info implicates Israeli gov't
The Associated Press - 9 hours ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... QD961EK8G0
JERUSALEM (AP) — An Israeli rights group plans to use a database detailing the complicity of Israel's government in widespread illegal construction in West Bank settlements to help Palestinians file lawsuits over their lost land, the group said Friday.
The classified database, compiled by Israel's Defense Ministry and leaked to the Yesh Din group, shows that government agencies and private companies building settlements in the West Bank widely ignored Israeli law, in many cases seizing land that belongs to Palestinians. It also demonstrates that the government has long been aware of the lawbreaking and has kept it secret.
The Defense Ministry would not comment on the report.
The internationally backed "road map" peace plan, the basis for Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, calls on Israel to halt all settlement activity. The settlements render the Palestinian goal of establishing a state that includes the West Bank all but impossible, and Israel will have to evacuate all or many of them as part of any peace agreement.
More than 30 settlements were built in part on land owned by Palestinians, the report shows, and in three out of every four settlements some construction was conducted without proper permits.
In one settlement, Elon Moreh, the report says, 18 houses were built on private land. In another, Efrat, a park and a synagogue were built on private land, and in a third, Ariel, a college was built without legal approval. In other settlements, roads, cell phone antennas, basketball courts and neighborhoods were built illegally.
The report focuses on the some 120 West Bank settlements officially authorized by the government since Israel captured the territory in the 1967 Mideast war. In addition, settlers have thrown up some 100 unauthorized settlement outposts, which violate Israeli law but were typically built with the tacit approval or active cooperation of the government.
Michael Sfard, Yesh Din's legal counsel, called the information a "severe indictment" of Israel's military and government. Israeli authorities are "systematically violating international law and the property rights of Palestinian residents," Sfard said in a statement.
The group said it intends to use "all legal means" to challenge the violations listed in the leaked database, including filing civil suits and appealing to Israel's Supreme Court. Yesh Din will begin running ads in Palestinian newspapers to encourage people to take legal action, and will also offer legal counsel, the statement from the group said.
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Names and Photos of Israeli War Criminals in Gaza
I'm sure there are those that will try to dispute these facts but hey, it's all there in black and white and even in color.
I'm sure there are those that will try to dispute these facts but hey, it's all there in black and white and even in color.
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More interesting facts about the IDF.
Avichai Mandelblit
http://www.kawther.info/ga2/v/Military/ ... andelblit/
Brigadier-General Avichai Mandelblit
(another possible spelling is Mendelblit)
Mandelblit is a war criminal, a terrorist, and a religious and Zionist extremist member of a fundamentalist Yeshiva. He is married and has of 4 children.
Mandelblit is a former head of the IDF service, he is currently a member of the General Staff.
Mandelblit was appointed as the Military Advocate General of the IDF in 2004. Here is a summary of his previous career:
* 1985-1988 Military Prosecutor; prosecutor for the ground forces command southern division
* 1988-1990 Defense Attorney of the southern command/ ground forces command
* 1990-1991 District Defense Attorney
* 1991-1992 Judge of a military court in the Gaza region
* 1993-1996 Senior assistant to the chief military prosecutor
* 1996-1997 Deputy Chief Military Prosecutor
* 1997-2000 Deputy to the head of the military courts of the ground forces southern command
* 2000-2003 Chief Military Defense Attorney
* 2003-2004 Deputy Military Advocate General
Mandelblit has used his positions to legitimize war crimes, crimes against Humanity, and crimes comprising genocide perpetrated by IDF and Israeli civilians against the Palestinians civilian population.
Some of the crimes which he helped legitimize or cover during his career are:
- The murder in cold blood of six Palestinian civilians by the IDF on 19 – 22 September, 2002:
* Abed Al-Salaam Samran, aged 10, from Ramallah
* Heitam Said Natat, aged 17, from Gaza
* Abed-Allah Al Galabi, aged 14, from Gaza
* Bahaa Said Nagi El Bahash, aged 14, from Nablus
* Ahmed Mahmoud Lubada, aged 36, from Gaza
* Amira Adhadar, aged 25, from Gaza.
Mandelblit claimed that these there had been exchanges of fire between IDF forces and Palestinians when these persons died, and that there was no proof that these Palestinians were murdered by the IDF.
- On November 8, 2006, an IDF shell hit two buildings in the town of Beit Hanoun, killing 21 Palestinian civilians and injuring additional hundreds. As a result of this crime, the former Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz was appointed to lead a committee to investigate the circumstances of the incident.
In this case, Mandelblit decided that no legal action would be taken against any military official regarding this incident, and that the behavior of the IDF personnel involved in the incident was not substantially or severely negligent in a manner that would justify taking legal actions against them. He claimed that "there was no need to open a Military Police investigation into the matter".
- On 26 February 2006, Mandelblit advised Brigadier-General Aviv Kochavi, the commander of the Gaza Division of the IDF, to cancel his studies and stay in England, fearing he would be arrested and tried for alleged war crimes in the Palestinian territories.
Kochavi served as commander of the Paratroops in Gaza and took part during the "Operation Defense Shield" against defenseless civilians in Gaza in 2002, during which over 125 Palestinians were killed, hundreds were gravely injured, and during which the IDF destroyed massive amounts of private and public property in all of Gaza. As such, Kochavi is culpable of crimes of war, crimes against humanity and crimes comprising genocide against the Palestinian people.
That Mandelblit would advise Kochavi in order to help him evade prosecution for his crimes is evidence that Mandelblit is very well aware of the fact that the actions of the IDF are grave crimes.
- On December 24th, 2007 Mandelblit declared that the use of cluster bombs in the Second Lebanon War in 2006 was legal and that Israel would not prosecute IDF personnel over the use of cluster bombs in Lebanon. The use of cluster bombs is almost universally considered as a crime of war, and certainly so in internaitonal treaties of which Israel is signatory.
The IDF used three main types of cluster munitions in that war: those dropped through air force bombs; and other cluster bombs fired through artillery and and in rockets fired from Multiple Launch Rocket Systems. Cluster bombs were used to target fields near populated areas.
The UN says that about four million cluster bomblets were dropped on Lebanon during the 34-day conflict. Many of them failed to explode on impact, posing a danger to civilians in their homes, gardens and fields. More than 30 people have been reported killed by cluster bombs and land mines dropped by the IDF since the 2006 war.
- On November 8, 2007, Mandelblit issued a statement justifiying the interruption of the power supply to Gaza,
which left one million and half without electricity, gas, and consequentially without the basic needs for the daily life, such as water services.
- In March of 2008, Mandelblit together with Attorney General Menachem Mazuz legitimized the call to perpetrate genocide against the population of Gaza by
Matan Vilnai and Ehud Barak.
- Also during March of 2008, the IDF perpetrated massive crimes against the population of the Gaza Strip, all of which Mandelblit has declared legitime and legal. During this month The Air Force repeatedly attacked the civilian population of Gaza. Hundreds were killed or injured. Among them were seven women and 39 killed children, 89 injured children, and 315 gravely injured. Some of the victims of the IDF from March 2008 are:
* Amirah Abu Aser, killed, age 19 days.
* Muhammad Al-Buri, killed, age six months.
* Anas Al-Mana’a, killed, age 12 years.
* Bilal Hijazi, killed, age 15 years.
* Muhammad Khalil Hamad, killed, age 12 years.
* Malak Yunis al-Kafarneh, killed, age 3 years.
* Fatimah Al-Qirawi, killed, age 72 years.
Currently, as of March 2008, Mandelblit stands accused of complicity and connivance with others in the genocide against the Palestinian people.
http://www.kawther.info/ga2/v/Military/ ... andelblit/
Brigadier-General Avichai Mandelblit
(another possible spelling is Mendelblit)
Mandelblit is a war criminal, a terrorist, and a religious and Zionist extremist member of a fundamentalist Yeshiva. He is married and has of 4 children.
Mandelblit is a former head of the IDF service, he is currently a member of the General Staff.
Mandelblit was appointed as the Military Advocate General of the IDF in 2004. Here is a summary of his previous career:
* 1985-1988 Military Prosecutor; prosecutor for the ground forces command southern division
* 1988-1990 Defense Attorney of the southern command/ ground forces command
* 1990-1991 District Defense Attorney
* 1991-1992 Judge of a military court in the Gaza region
* 1993-1996 Senior assistant to the chief military prosecutor
* 1996-1997 Deputy Chief Military Prosecutor
* 1997-2000 Deputy to the head of the military courts of the ground forces southern command
* 2000-2003 Chief Military Defense Attorney
* 2003-2004 Deputy Military Advocate General
Mandelblit has used his positions to legitimize war crimes, crimes against Humanity, and crimes comprising genocide perpetrated by IDF and Israeli civilians against the Palestinians civilian population.
Some of the crimes which he helped legitimize or cover during his career are:
- The murder in cold blood of six Palestinian civilians by the IDF on 19 – 22 September, 2002:
* Abed Al-Salaam Samran, aged 10, from Ramallah
* Heitam Said Natat, aged 17, from Gaza
* Abed-Allah Al Galabi, aged 14, from Gaza
* Bahaa Said Nagi El Bahash, aged 14, from Nablus
* Ahmed Mahmoud Lubada, aged 36, from Gaza
* Amira Adhadar, aged 25, from Gaza.
Mandelblit claimed that these there had been exchanges of fire between IDF forces and Palestinians when these persons died, and that there was no proof that these Palestinians were murdered by the IDF.
- On November 8, 2006, an IDF shell hit two buildings in the town of Beit Hanoun, killing 21 Palestinian civilians and injuring additional hundreds. As a result of this crime, the former Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz was appointed to lead a committee to investigate the circumstances of the incident.
In this case, Mandelblit decided that no legal action would be taken against any military official regarding this incident, and that the behavior of the IDF personnel involved in the incident was not substantially or severely negligent in a manner that would justify taking legal actions against them. He claimed that "there was no need to open a Military Police investigation into the matter".
- On 26 February 2006, Mandelblit advised Brigadier-General Aviv Kochavi, the commander of the Gaza Division of the IDF, to cancel his studies and stay in England, fearing he would be arrested and tried for alleged war crimes in the Palestinian territories.
Kochavi served as commander of the Paratroops in Gaza and took part during the "Operation Defense Shield" against defenseless civilians in Gaza in 2002, during which over 125 Palestinians were killed, hundreds were gravely injured, and during which the IDF destroyed massive amounts of private and public property in all of Gaza. As such, Kochavi is culpable of crimes of war, crimes against humanity and crimes comprising genocide against the Palestinian people.
That Mandelblit would advise Kochavi in order to help him evade prosecution for his crimes is evidence that Mandelblit is very well aware of the fact that the actions of the IDF are grave crimes.
- On December 24th, 2007 Mandelblit declared that the use of cluster bombs in the Second Lebanon War in 2006 was legal and that Israel would not prosecute IDF personnel over the use of cluster bombs in Lebanon. The use of cluster bombs is almost universally considered as a crime of war, and certainly so in internaitonal treaties of which Israel is signatory.
The IDF used three main types of cluster munitions in that war: those dropped through air force bombs; and other cluster bombs fired through artillery and and in rockets fired from Multiple Launch Rocket Systems. Cluster bombs were used to target fields near populated areas.
The UN says that about four million cluster bomblets were dropped on Lebanon during the 34-day conflict. Many of them failed to explode on impact, posing a danger to civilians in their homes, gardens and fields. More than 30 people have been reported killed by cluster bombs and land mines dropped by the IDF since the 2006 war.
- On November 8, 2007, Mandelblit issued a statement justifiying the interruption of the power supply to Gaza,
which left one million and half without electricity, gas, and consequentially without the basic needs for the daily life, such as water services.
- In March of 2008, Mandelblit together with Attorney General Menachem Mazuz legitimized the call to perpetrate genocide against the population of Gaza by
Matan Vilnai and Ehud Barak.
- Also during March of 2008, the IDF perpetrated massive crimes against the population of the Gaza Strip, all of which Mandelblit has declared legitime and legal. During this month The Air Force repeatedly attacked the civilian population of Gaza. Hundreds were killed or injured. Among them were seven women and 39 killed children, 89 injured children, and 315 gravely injured. Some of the victims of the IDF from March 2008 are:
* Amirah Abu Aser, killed, age 19 days.
* Muhammad Al-Buri, killed, age six months.
* Anas Al-Mana’a, killed, age 12 years.
* Bilal Hijazi, killed, age 15 years.
* Muhammad Khalil Hamad, killed, age 12 years.
* Malak Yunis al-Kafarneh, killed, age 3 years.
* Fatimah Al-Qirawi, killed, age 72 years.
Currently, as of March 2008, Mandelblit stands accused of complicity and connivance with others in the genocide against the Palestinian people.
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Interesting article on the future of israel;
http://www.rense.com/general88/river.htm
http://www.rense.com/general88/river.htm
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This is an article by a prominent jewish writer who claims that jews are being side lined by the actions of the new GOV.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 61,00.html
"By coincidence, or not, large foreign investors are pulling out of Israel.
Does everyone hate us? Possibly so,"
"Israel’s image has hit a nadir; it is isolated, unwanted, and perceived as bad. The world is telling us that should we continue along the same contemptible path, we will lose our legitimacy. "
The essence of ONE of israel's problems is that the muslims are fast out-populating the jews. Europe is a big supporter of palestine.
If you watch this vid, it presents numbers on the birth rate of islamists.
The numbers have been fudged upwards a bit. The truth is still that the birth rate in the Islamic community is far higher than the native birth rate. France is a perfect example. France is being buried by islam. 2 years ago France had muslims rioting in several areas. They complained that there are no jobs.
Well, that's no surprise. The muslim religion concentrates too much on religion and not enough on practical subjects;
http://www.jaihoon.com/288.htm The Muslims are not prepared to run a modern country. The GDP per capita in Syria is 1 / 10 of what it is in the US.
http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator_d ... catorid=19
Religion is never a good basis for operating a society;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 407115.ece
France is complaining about the treatment of Palestinians. What will France do when their large islamic population insists on Sharia law? The muslims rarely ever assimilate. "recent Islamic edict calling on Muslims to drive Danes out of the Norrebro quarter of Copenhagen."
What will Europe do about the crime rate of muslims;
* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists" http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/denmark.htm
In Australia, the muslims demanded that the Aussies get off the beach. That lead to battles between Lebanese and Aussies;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots
The tenants of fundamental islam do not mix with western law. The problems of israel today will occur in Europe tomorrow. Theocracy, sharia and a sixth century mentality can be counted on to bring trouble.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 61,00.html
"By coincidence, or not, large foreign investors are pulling out of Israel.
Does everyone hate us? Possibly so,"
"Israel’s image has hit a nadir; it is isolated, unwanted, and perceived as bad. The world is telling us that should we continue along the same contemptible path, we will lose our legitimacy. "
The essence of ONE of israel's problems is that the muslims are fast out-populating the jews. Europe is a big supporter of palestine.
If you watch this vid, it presents numbers on the birth rate of islamists.
The numbers have been fudged upwards a bit. The truth is still that the birth rate in the Islamic community is far higher than the native birth rate. France is a perfect example. France is being buried by islam. 2 years ago France had muslims rioting in several areas. They complained that there are no jobs.
Well, that's no surprise. The muslim religion concentrates too much on religion and not enough on practical subjects;
http://www.jaihoon.com/288.htm The Muslims are not prepared to run a modern country. The GDP per capita in Syria is 1 / 10 of what it is in the US.
http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator_d ... catorid=19
Religion is never a good basis for operating a society;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 407115.ece
France is complaining about the treatment of Palestinians. What will France do when their large islamic population insists on Sharia law? The muslims rarely ever assimilate. "recent Islamic edict calling on Muslims to drive Danes out of the Norrebro quarter of Copenhagen."
What will Europe do about the crime rate of muslims;
* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists" http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/denmark.htm
In Australia, the muslims demanded that the Aussies get off the beach. That lead to battles between Lebanese and Aussies;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots
The tenants of fundamental islam do not mix with western law. The problems of israel today will occur in Europe tomorrow. Theocracy, sharia and a sixth century mentality can be counted on to bring trouble.
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"We are a nefarious people. What we are doing in the West Bank is worse than all the pogroms done to the Jews."
http://www.uruknet.com/index.php?p=m606 ... size=1&l=e
http://www.uruknet.com/index.php?p=m606 ... size=1&l=e
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It's nice to have the law books on your side,,, especially when you live in a theocracy.
The following article stems from the Israeli press, not from so-called anti-Semites. Please read the full translated article, first published by the
Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Nov. 9, 2009, page 2:
http://globalfire.tv/nj/09en/jews/killingguide.htm
It gets clearer every day.
The following article stems from the Israeli press, not from so-called anti-Semites. Please read the full translated article, first published by the
Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Nov. 9, 2009, page 2:
http://globalfire.tv/nj/09en/jews/killingguide.htm
It gets clearer every day.
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DVD, this thread, even though it is of fairly narrow interest has about 23,000 views. That shows that quite a few people are following it.
Israel would like to have certain "memes' "cast in stone" in regards to it's actions. I started this thread to put those memes in doubt.
It's easy to show that isreal's actions are systemically brutal. Much of what I posted was to show that the "mindset" behind those actions was deliberately inhuman.
israel learned a long time ago to fight a battle for "minds" worldwide. They're training IDF people to fight the Mind battle in cyberspace.
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m60661&hd=&size=1&l=e
"put up YouTube videos of attacks on targets in the Gaza Strip, to illustrate the care the IDF takes to avoid hitting civilians. "
A battle for minds.
That's why I try to post incriminating info from israeli sources. There's nothing so convincing as self-incrimination.
Israel would like to have certain "memes' "cast in stone" in regards to it's actions. I started this thread to put those memes in doubt.
It's easy to show that isreal's actions are systemically brutal. Much of what I posted was to show that the "mindset" behind those actions was deliberately inhuman.
israel learned a long time ago to fight a battle for "minds" worldwide. They're training IDF people to fight the Mind battle in cyberspace.
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m60661&hd=&size=1&l=e
"put up YouTube videos of attacks on targets in the Gaza Strip, to illustrate the care the IDF takes to avoid hitting civilians. "
A battle for minds.
That's why I try to post incriminating info from israeli sources. There's nothing so convincing as self-incrimination.
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This is a composition from Churchill. He has quite a bit to say about the group of international thugs masquerading as zionists.
Illustrated Sunday Herald
February 8, 1920, page 5
Mr Churchill's authorship of this article has been authenticated by one of the world's leading Churchill bibliographers, Richard Heinzkill, of the University of Eugene, Oregon.
A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People
By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.
SOME people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.
And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.
The National Russian Jews, in spite of the disabilities under which they have suffered, have managed to play an honourable and successful part in the national life even of Russia . As bankers and industrialists they have strenuously promoted the development of Russia 's economic resources, and they were foremost in the creation of those remarkable organisations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In politics their support has been given, for the most part, to liberal and progressive movements, and they have been among the staunchest upholders of friendship with France and Great Britain .
International Jews.
In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus--Weishaup t to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and an the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution: by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel ( Petrograd ), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.
The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary . The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria ), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.
"Protector of the Jews."
Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people. Wherever General Denikin's authority could reach, protection was always accorded to the Jewish population, and strenuous efforts were made by his officers to prevent reprisals and to punish those guilty of them. So much was this the case that the Petlurist propaganda against General Denikin denounced him as the Protector of the Jews. The Misses Healy, nieces of Mr. Tim Healy, relating their personal experiences in Kieff, have declared that to their knowledge on more than one occasion officers who committed offences against Jews were reduced to the ranks and sent out of the city to the front. But the hordes of brigands by whom the whole vast expanse of the Russian Empire is becoming infested do not hesitate. to gratify their lust for blood and for revenge at the expense of the innocent Jewish population whenever an opportunity occurs. The brigand Makhno, the hordes of Petlura and of Gregorieff, who signalised their every success by the most brutal massacres, everywhere found among the half-stupefied, half-infuriated population an eager response to anti-Semitism in its worst and foulest forms. The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with the villainies which are now being perpetrated.
A Home for the Jews.
Zionism offers the third sphere to the political conceptions of the Jewish race. In violent contrast to international communism.
Zionism has already become a factor in the political convulsions of Russia , as a powerful competing influence in Bolshevik circles with the international communistic system. Nothing could be more significant than the fury with which Trotsky has attacked the Zionists generally, and Dr. Weissmann in particular. The cruel penetration of his mind leaves him in no doubt that his schemes of a world-wide communistic State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted and hindered by this new ideal, which directs the energies and the hopes of Jews in every land towards a simpler, a truer, and a far more attainable goal. The struggle which is now beginning between the Zionist and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for the soul of the Jewish people.
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Here is a direct quote from the correspondence of Karl Marx with another Jew, Baruch Levy, quoted in the "La Revue de Paris," June 1, 1928, page 574:
"In the new organization of mankind, the children of Israel [the Jews] will spread over the whole surface of the earth and will become everywhere, without opposition, the leading element, especially if they can impose upon workings classes the firm control of some of the them. The governments of the nations forming the Universal Republic will pass without effort into the hands of the Jews under the cover of the victory of the proletariat, private property will then be suppressed by the rulers of Jewish race, who will everywhere control public funds. Thus will be realized the Talmudic promise that, when come the times of the Messiah, Jews will possess the wealth of all peoples of the world".
In the Congressional Record, published by the United States Government Printing Office, Proceedings of the House, 1957, page 8559 you can read the following:
"Israel Cohen, a leading Communist in England , in his A Racial Program For the Twentieth Century, wrote [in 1912]:
'We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have have been oppressed by the whites, we can mould them to the program of the Communist Party. In America , we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites , we will instill into the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America into our hands'."
Illustrated Sunday Herald
February 8, 1920, page 5
Mr Churchill's authorship of this article has been authenticated by one of the world's leading Churchill bibliographers, Richard Heinzkill, of the University of Eugene, Oregon.
A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People
By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.
SOME people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.
And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.
The National Russian Jews, in spite of the disabilities under which they have suffered, have managed to play an honourable and successful part in the national life even of Russia . As bankers and industrialists they have strenuously promoted the development of Russia 's economic resources, and they were foremost in the creation of those remarkable organisations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In politics their support has been given, for the most part, to liberal and progressive movements, and they have been among the staunchest upholders of friendship with France and Great Britain .
International Jews.
In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus--Weishaup t to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
Terrorist Jews.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and an the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution: by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel ( Petrograd ), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.
The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary . The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria ), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.
"Protector of the Jews."
Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people. Wherever General Denikin's authority could reach, protection was always accorded to the Jewish population, and strenuous efforts were made by his officers to prevent reprisals and to punish those guilty of them. So much was this the case that the Petlurist propaganda against General Denikin denounced him as the Protector of the Jews. The Misses Healy, nieces of Mr. Tim Healy, relating their personal experiences in Kieff, have declared that to their knowledge on more than one occasion officers who committed offences against Jews were reduced to the ranks and sent out of the city to the front. But the hordes of brigands by whom the whole vast expanse of the Russian Empire is becoming infested do not hesitate. to gratify their lust for blood and for revenge at the expense of the innocent Jewish population whenever an opportunity occurs. The brigand Makhno, the hordes of Petlura and of Gregorieff, who signalised their every success by the most brutal massacres, everywhere found among the half-stupefied, half-infuriated population an eager response to anti-Semitism in its worst and foulest forms. The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with the villainies which are now being perpetrated.
A Home for the Jews.
Zionism offers the third sphere to the political conceptions of the Jewish race. In violent contrast to international communism.
Zionism has already become a factor in the political convulsions of Russia , as a powerful competing influence in Bolshevik circles with the international communistic system. Nothing could be more significant than the fury with which Trotsky has attacked the Zionists generally, and Dr. Weissmann in particular. The cruel penetration of his mind leaves him in no doubt that his schemes of a world-wide communistic State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted and hindered by this new ideal, which directs the energies and the hopes of Jews in every land towards a simpler, a truer, and a far more attainable goal. The struggle which is now beginning between the Zionist and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for the soul of the Jewish people.
The article is reproduced without editing apart from typographical
Here is a direct quote from the correspondence of Karl Marx with another Jew, Baruch Levy, quoted in the "La Revue de Paris," June 1, 1928, page 574:
"In the new organization of mankind, the children of Israel [the Jews] will spread over the whole surface of the earth and will become everywhere, without opposition, the leading element, especially if they can impose upon workings classes the firm control of some of the them. The governments of the nations forming the Universal Republic will pass without effort into the hands of the Jews under the cover of the victory of the proletariat, private property will then be suppressed by the rulers of Jewish race, who will everywhere control public funds. Thus will be realized the Talmudic promise that, when come the times of the Messiah, Jews will possess the wealth of all peoples of the world".
In the Congressional Record, published by the United States Government Printing Office, Proceedings of the House, 1957, page 8559 you can read the following:
"Israel Cohen, a leading Communist in England , in his A Racial Program For the Twentieth Century, wrote [in 1912]:
'We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have have been oppressed by the whites, we can mould them to the program of the Communist Party. In America , we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites , we will instill into the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America into our hands'."
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Israel is having increasing problems with PR. There have been arrest warrants for a few leaders. At one time, I had high hope for Livni. She was from the intelligence services, not from the army. She tried to one-up Netanyahu and became even worse than him,,, if that is possible. http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2009_10_25.htm
"Cast Lead" was definitely bad for PR;
http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2009_12_10.htm
The world court may hear charges from Palestinians;
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m61071&hd=&size=1&l=e
The city of London is controlled by the bankers. The British are starting to notice that GB is blatantly pro-israel and won't even mention Palestine;
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/au ... borne.html
The REAL surprise is from right here. The council on foreign relations has come out and said that israel has way too much influence on America.
israel ignores UN mandates, non-proliferation treaties, human rights, weapons bans, IAEC demands, and most other international agreements. The secretary-general of the UN says that israel's actions are both deplorable and illegal. Israel, of course just ignores him. That doesn't stop israel from complaining about purportedly illegal actions on the part of Iran;
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20 ... v-2009.htm
As Churchill said, the jewish people have so much potential and so many accomplishments. It's just too bad that their future has been hijacked by a small group that just can't be dislodged. Millions are dying for their paranoia and intransigence.
"Cast Lead" was definitely bad for PR;
http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2009_12_10.htm
The world court may hear charges from Palestinians;
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m61071&hd=&size=1&l=e
The city of London is controlled by the bankers. The British are starting to notice that GB is blatantly pro-israel and won't even mention Palestine;
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/au ... borne.html
The REAL surprise is from right here. The council on foreign relations has come out and said that israel has way too much influence on America.
israel ignores UN mandates, non-proliferation treaties, human rights, weapons bans, IAEC demands, and most other international agreements. The secretary-general of the UN says that israel's actions are both deplorable and illegal. Israel, of course just ignores him. That doesn't stop israel from complaining about purportedly illegal actions on the part of Iran;
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20 ... v-2009.htm
As Churchill said, the jewish people have so much potential and so many accomplishments. It's just too bad that their future has been hijacked by a small group that just can't be dislodged. Millions are dying for their paranoia and intransigence.
I don't post things because I believe that they are the absolute truth. I post them because I believe that they should be considered.
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Arbeit Macht Frei
http://blogs.wsj.com/new-europe/2009/12 ... s-missing/
By Marcin Sobczyk
Polish police said they have three theories on what happened to the stolen Arbeit macht frei sign above the entrance to the Nazi German concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau in what now is southern Poland–but they’re not sharing them for the time being. All they’re saying is the sign wasn’t stolen to be sold as scrap.
I’ll share my theory–the sign may have been ordered by a crazy collector and now Arbeit macht frei decorates someone’s backyard.
Poland had a replica made several years ago that was used during the renovation of the original sign that is now missing, so visitors won’t see any difference.
But this theft shows there’s an urgent need of investment in the Auschwitz museum, including its security. Just three days ago Germany promised 60 million euro to finance the camp, but the total needs are estimated at 120 million euro.
Then again, who would have thought anyone in the world wanted to steal the “work makes you freeâ€
By Marcin Sobczyk
Polish police said they have three theories on what happened to the stolen Arbeit macht frei sign above the entrance to the Nazi German concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau in what now is southern Poland–but they’re not sharing them for the time being. All they’re saying is the sign wasn’t stolen to be sold as scrap.
I’ll share my theory–the sign may have been ordered by a crazy collector and now Arbeit macht frei decorates someone’s backyard.
Poland had a replica made several years ago that was used during the renovation of the original sign that is now missing, so visitors won’t see any difference.
But this theft shows there’s an urgent need of investment in the Auschwitz museum, including its security. Just three days ago Germany promised 60 million euro to finance the camp, but the total needs are estimated at 120 million euro.
Then again, who would have thought anyone in the world wanted to steal the “work makes you freeâ€
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December 21, 2009 by Tamar Sternthal
LA Times Op-Ed Calls For Dismantlement of Jewish State
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_conte ... ticle=1773
In the past, the Los Angeles Times marked Israel's birthday with an Op-Ed calling for its dismantlement via the so-called "one-state solution." The paper didn't bother to wait for the spring anniversary of the Jewish state's founding, presenting its readers yesterday with another call for a "one-state solution." Jonathan Kuttab's Dec. 20, 2009 Op-Ed ("Steps to Create Israel-Palestine"), like earlier pieces by Saree Makdisi (here and here) and Tony Judt which called for the destruction of the Jewish state, rests on a number of basic factual errors and faulty assumptions.
From the Mediterranean to the Jordan River
Kuttab, a Palestinian attorney and activist, begins by fabricating: "With Israel in total control of the territory from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River and unwilling to relinquish a significant part of the land . . . "
In fact, between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River lies the Gaza Strip which is fully under the control of Hamas—not Israel. Moreover, 40 percent of the West Bank is under the control of the Palestinian Authority. As for Israel's alleged "unwillingness to relinquish a significant part of the land," last week Ha'aretz published a detailed report and a map showing Ehud Olmert's unprecedented offer to Mahmoud Abbas.
Former prime minister Ehud Olmert proposed giving the Palestinians land from communities bordering the Gaza Strip and from the Judean Desert nature reserve in exchange for settlement blocs in the West Bank.
According to the map proposed by Olmert, which is being made public here for the first time, the future border between Israel and the Gaza Strip would be adjacent to kibbutzim and moshavim such as Be'eri, Kissufim and Nir Oz, whose fields would be given to the Palestinians.
Olmert also proposed giving land to a future Palestinian state in the Beit She'an Valley near Kibbutz Tirat Tzvi; in the Judean Hills near Nataf and Mevo Betar; and in the area of Lachish and of the Yatir Forest. Together, the areas would have involved the transfer of 327 square kilometers of territory from within the Green Line.
Olmert presented his map to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in September of last year. Abbas did not respond, and negotiations ended. In an interview with Haaretz on Tuesday, Abbas said Olmert had presented several drafts of his map.
The version being disclosed Thursday in Haaretz is based on sources who received detailed information about Olmert's proposals.
Olmert wanted to annex 6.3 percent of the West Bank to Israel, areas that are home to 75 percent of the Jewish population of the territories. His proposal would have also involved evacuation of dozens of settlements in the Jordan Valley, in the eastern Samarian hills and in the Hebron region. In return for the annexation to Israel of Ma'aleh Adumim, the Gush Etzion bloc of settlements, Ariel, Beit Aryeh and settlements adjacent to Jerusalem, Olmert proposed the transfer of territory to the Palestinians equivalent to 5.8 percent of the area of the West Bank as well as a safe-passage route from Hebron to the Gaza Strip via a highway that would remain part of the sovereign territory of Israel but where there would be no Israeli presence.

The yellow represents the proposed Palestinian territory — 100 percent of the Gaza Strip and 93.7 percent of the West Bank. The orange represents 327 square kilometers (equivalent to 5.8 percent of the West Bank) within Israel's pre-1967 boundaries that Israel would swap in order to annex the 6.3 percent of the West Bank in which its citizens are mostly concentrated — a near 1-to-1 exchange. Blue represents the 6.3 percent of the West Bank that Olmert hoped to annex. Mahmoud Abbas, for his part, has never made any sort of offer or presented any kind of map, so we'd have to agree with Kuttab that the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip looks "less and less likely." But not for the reasons he says.
False Future Scenarios
Kuttab offers two false options for future scenarios, writing:
And although Jewish Israelis may control it now, birthrates suggest that, sooner or later, Jews will again be a minority in the territory.
What happens at that point is unclear, but unless continued military occupation and all-out apartheid is the desired path, now may be the time for Israelis to start putting in place the kinds of legal and constitutional safeguards that will protect all minorities, now and in the future, in a single democratic state of Israel-Palestine. This is both the right thing and the smart thing to do.
Given that the overwhelming majority of Palestinian population centers are under Palestinian control (either Hamas in the Gaza Strip, or the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank), there is no reason why future choices would either be military occupation or "all-out apartheid." The majority of Palestinians currently live under their own governments. How would that status be endangered if more Palestinians than Israelis inhabit the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, as Kuttab hypothesizes? Kuttab does not explain how he makes that leap.
Moreover, Kuttab's rosy depiction of a protected Jewish minority living under a system of safeguards in a binational Israel-Palestinian would be laughable were it not so dangerous. He writes:
At the root of [Israelis'] fear was the belief that despite Israel's best efforts to push Palestinians from land and property and to import Jewish settlers in their stead, the Arab population would keep climbing. And that, when the Arabs reached the 51% mark, the state of Israel would collapse, its Jewish character would disappear and its population would dwindle into obscurity.
Yet that scenario is not necessarily the inevitable result of either demography or democracy. Religious and ethnic minorities have successfully thrived in many countries and managed to retain their distinctive culture and identity, and succeeded in being effective and sometimes even dominant influences in those countries. Those who believe in coexistence must begin to seriously think of the legal and constitutional mechanisms needed to safeguard the rights of a Jewish minority in Israel-Palestine.
It is true that the experience of Israel with its Palestinian minority does not offer a comforting prospect. The behavior of the Jewish majority toward the Palestinian citizens of Israel has not been magnanimous or tolerant. Where ethnic cleansing was insufficient, military rule, land confiscation and systemic discrimination have all been employed.
First, since we are talking about minority rights in the Middle East under an Arab/Islamic majority, can Kuttab point to even one Arab or Muslim country in the Middle East where minorities thrive? (The thriving of religious and ethnic minorities in "many countries," such as the United States, Canada, or Germany, is hardly germaine to this discussion.) More to the point is the treatment of minorities in Arab and Islamic countries, the subject of a recent conference hosted by One Free World International last week. The Jerusalem Post reported:
Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world, and in 2009 more than 165,000 Christians will have been killed because of their faith, most of them in Muslim countries, according to a human rights organization that is visiting Israel starting Sunday.
"Hamas digs up the bodies of Christians from Christian burial sites in the Gaza Strip claiming that they pollute the earth," said Reverend Majed El Shafie, President of One Free World International (OFWI), who will head a delegation of human rights activists, members of parliament from Canada and religious personalities.
During their visit to Israel the delegation will hold a conference on human rights and persecuted minorities at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem. The conference will provide new statistics on the persecution of minorities in Muslim countries.
El Shafie said that between 200-300 million Christians are being persecuted in the world, 80 percent of whom lived in Muslim countries and the rest in communist and other countries. . . .
In the Palestinian Authority controlled West Bank, the situation is also bleak for the dwindling Christian population which is subject to land theft by Muslims, intimidation, job discrimination, forced "protection" monetary payments, and sexual harrasment. But there is persuasive evidence to suggest that Jews living in a Muslim-controlled "Israel-Palestine" would have greater concerns than discrimination and a dwindling population due to lower birth rates. The Hamas charter, for example, proclaims: "The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." And the organization, which rules the Gaza Strip and which is designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, does not simply bury that message in its official documents. Rather, it actively inculcates its youngsters with this genocidal imperative to murder all Jews via kid-friendly television programs featuring oversized talking animals. Nassur the Bear explains to young viewers of Hamas' Al Aqsa TV on Sept. 22, 2009, “There won't be any Jews or Zionists, if Allah wills. They'll be erased. . . . We want to slaughter (Nidbah-hom) them, so they will be expelled from our land, right? . . .And if they don't want [to go] peacefully, by words or talking, we’ll have to [do it] by slaughter.â€
LA Times Op-Ed Calls For Dismantlement of Jewish State
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_conte ... ticle=1773
In the past, the Los Angeles Times marked Israel's birthday with an Op-Ed calling for its dismantlement via the so-called "one-state solution." The paper didn't bother to wait for the spring anniversary of the Jewish state's founding, presenting its readers yesterday with another call for a "one-state solution." Jonathan Kuttab's Dec. 20, 2009 Op-Ed ("Steps to Create Israel-Palestine"), like earlier pieces by Saree Makdisi (here and here) and Tony Judt which called for the destruction of the Jewish state, rests on a number of basic factual errors and faulty assumptions.
From the Mediterranean to the Jordan River
Kuttab, a Palestinian attorney and activist, begins by fabricating: "With Israel in total control of the territory from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River and unwilling to relinquish a significant part of the land . . . "
In fact, between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River lies the Gaza Strip which is fully under the control of Hamas—not Israel. Moreover, 40 percent of the West Bank is under the control of the Palestinian Authority. As for Israel's alleged "unwillingness to relinquish a significant part of the land," last week Ha'aretz published a detailed report and a map showing Ehud Olmert's unprecedented offer to Mahmoud Abbas.
Former prime minister Ehud Olmert proposed giving the Palestinians land from communities bordering the Gaza Strip and from the Judean Desert nature reserve in exchange for settlement blocs in the West Bank.
According to the map proposed by Olmert, which is being made public here for the first time, the future border between Israel and the Gaza Strip would be adjacent to kibbutzim and moshavim such as Be'eri, Kissufim and Nir Oz, whose fields would be given to the Palestinians.
Olmert also proposed giving land to a future Palestinian state in the Beit She'an Valley near Kibbutz Tirat Tzvi; in the Judean Hills near Nataf and Mevo Betar; and in the area of Lachish and of the Yatir Forest. Together, the areas would have involved the transfer of 327 square kilometers of territory from within the Green Line.
Olmert presented his map to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in September of last year. Abbas did not respond, and negotiations ended. In an interview with Haaretz on Tuesday, Abbas said Olmert had presented several drafts of his map.
The version being disclosed Thursday in Haaretz is based on sources who received detailed information about Olmert's proposals.
Olmert wanted to annex 6.3 percent of the West Bank to Israel, areas that are home to 75 percent of the Jewish population of the territories. His proposal would have also involved evacuation of dozens of settlements in the Jordan Valley, in the eastern Samarian hills and in the Hebron region. In return for the annexation to Israel of Ma'aleh Adumim, the Gush Etzion bloc of settlements, Ariel, Beit Aryeh and settlements adjacent to Jerusalem, Olmert proposed the transfer of territory to the Palestinians equivalent to 5.8 percent of the area of the West Bank as well as a safe-passage route from Hebron to the Gaza Strip via a highway that would remain part of the sovereign territory of Israel but where there would be no Israeli presence.

The yellow represents the proposed Palestinian territory — 100 percent of the Gaza Strip and 93.7 percent of the West Bank. The orange represents 327 square kilometers (equivalent to 5.8 percent of the West Bank) within Israel's pre-1967 boundaries that Israel would swap in order to annex the 6.3 percent of the West Bank in which its citizens are mostly concentrated — a near 1-to-1 exchange. Blue represents the 6.3 percent of the West Bank that Olmert hoped to annex. Mahmoud Abbas, for his part, has never made any sort of offer or presented any kind of map, so we'd have to agree with Kuttab that the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip looks "less and less likely." But not for the reasons he says.
False Future Scenarios
Kuttab offers two false options for future scenarios, writing:
And although Jewish Israelis may control it now, birthrates suggest that, sooner or later, Jews will again be a minority in the territory.
What happens at that point is unclear, but unless continued military occupation and all-out apartheid is the desired path, now may be the time for Israelis to start putting in place the kinds of legal and constitutional safeguards that will protect all minorities, now and in the future, in a single democratic state of Israel-Palestine. This is both the right thing and the smart thing to do.
Given that the overwhelming majority of Palestinian population centers are under Palestinian control (either Hamas in the Gaza Strip, or the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank), there is no reason why future choices would either be military occupation or "all-out apartheid." The majority of Palestinians currently live under their own governments. How would that status be endangered if more Palestinians than Israelis inhabit the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, as Kuttab hypothesizes? Kuttab does not explain how he makes that leap.
Moreover, Kuttab's rosy depiction of a protected Jewish minority living under a system of safeguards in a binational Israel-Palestinian would be laughable were it not so dangerous. He writes:
At the root of [Israelis'] fear was the belief that despite Israel's best efforts to push Palestinians from land and property and to import Jewish settlers in their stead, the Arab population would keep climbing. And that, when the Arabs reached the 51% mark, the state of Israel would collapse, its Jewish character would disappear and its population would dwindle into obscurity.
Yet that scenario is not necessarily the inevitable result of either demography or democracy. Religious and ethnic minorities have successfully thrived in many countries and managed to retain their distinctive culture and identity, and succeeded in being effective and sometimes even dominant influences in those countries. Those who believe in coexistence must begin to seriously think of the legal and constitutional mechanisms needed to safeguard the rights of a Jewish minority in Israel-Palestine.
It is true that the experience of Israel with its Palestinian minority does not offer a comforting prospect. The behavior of the Jewish majority toward the Palestinian citizens of Israel has not been magnanimous or tolerant. Where ethnic cleansing was insufficient, military rule, land confiscation and systemic discrimination have all been employed.
First, since we are talking about minority rights in the Middle East under an Arab/Islamic majority, can Kuttab point to even one Arab or Muslim country in the Middle East where minorities thrive? (The thriving of religious and ethnic minorities in "many countries," such as the United States, Canada, or Germany, is hardly germaine to this discussion.) More to the point is the treatment of minorities in Arab and Islamic countries, the subject of a recent conference hosted by One Free World International last week. The Jerusalem Post reported:
Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world, and in 2009 more than 165,000 Christians will have been killed because of their faith, most of them in Muslim countries, according to a human rights organization that is visiting Israel starting Sunday.
"Hamas digs up the bodies of Christians from Christian burial sites in the Gaza Strip claiming that they pollute the earth," said Reverend Majed El Shafie, President of One Free World International (OFWI), who will head a delegation of human rights activists, members of parliament from Canada and religious personalities.
During their visit to Israel the delegation will hold a conference on human rights and persecuted minorities at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem. The conference will provide new statistics on the persecution of minorities in Muslim countries.
El Shafie said that between 200-300 million Christians are being persecuted in the world, 80 percent of whom lived in Muslim countries and the rest in communist and other countries. . . .
In the Palestinian Authority controlled West Bank, the situation is also bleak for the dwindling Christian population which is subject to land theft by Muslims, intimidation, job discrimination, forced "protection" monetary payments, and sexual harrasment. But there is persuasive evidence to suggest that Jews living in a Muslim-controlled "Israel-Palestine" would have greater concerns than discrimination and a dwindling population due to lower birth rates. The Hamas charter, for example, proclaims: "The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." And the organization, which rules the Gaza Strip and which is designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, does not simply bury that message in its official documents. Rather, it actively inculcates its youngsters with this genocidal imperative to murder all Jews via kid-friendly television programs featuring oversized talking animals. Nassur the Bear explains to young viewers of Hamas' Al Aqsa TV on Sept. 22, 2009, “There won't be any Jews or Zionists, if Allah wills. They'll be erased. . . . We want to slaughter (Nidbah-hom) them, so they will be expelled from our land, right? . . .And if they don't want [to go] peacefully, by words or talking, we’ll have to [do it] by slaughter.â€
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israel is recalling it's ambassadors and consuls from all over the world. It would appear that netanyahu needs to craft a new strategy. He needs to figure a new method for genocide of palestine without upsetting the rest of the world.
" Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called a report by the UN Human Rights Council's Gaza commission a real threat to Israel."
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020202
The general feeling of the PTB in israel is that non-jews are to be exterminated like cockroaches. That attitude is not particularly acceptable to the rest of the world.
" Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called a report by the UN Human Rights Council's Gaza commission a real threat to Israel."
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020202
The general feeling of the PTB in israel is that non-jews are to be exterminated like cockroaches. That attitude is not particularly acceptable to the rest of the world.
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Perception of who runs the mass media;
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... 183.column
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... 183.column
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British government will fight legal attempts to indict Israeli leaders in UK
* Rory McCarthy in Jerusalem and Afua Hirsch
* guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 5 January 2010 19.22 GMT
* Article history
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja ... ts-britain

The government is determined to protect high-ranking Israeli officials from arrest in the UK, the attorney general said, as it emerged that a further visit by the Israeli military had been cancelled.
Speaking at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem today, Baroness Scotland said Israeli leaders should not face arrest for war crimes under the law of "universal jurisdiction", following attempts by British lawyers last month to obtain a warrant for the former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni.
"The government is looking urgently at ways in which the UK system might be changed to avoid this situation arising again," Scotland said. "Israel's leaders should always be able to travel freely to the UK."
Scotland's assurance comes as the Guardian learned that the Israeli military had cancelled a visit by a team of its officers to Britain after fears they risked arrest on possible war crimes charges.
A group of officers, reportedly from the rank of major up to colonel, were invited by the British army for a meeting on military co-operation but cancelled last week. There were also reports today that Israeli officials feared possible arrest warrants and contacted British authorities to demand a guarantee that the officers would not be arrested.
Last week, British officials reportedly said they could offer no such guarantee and the Israeli military promptly cancelled the visit. The Israeli military, also referred to as the Israel Defence Force, declined to comment. News of the latest cancellation by high-profile Israeli politicians or army officers is likely to intensify debate around the ability of UK-based lawyers to obtain arrest warrants.
In October, Moshe Ya'alon, a former general and current cabinet minister, turned down an invitation to visit London for fear of arrest over an Israeli air strike in Gaza dating back to 2002. Two weeks earlier, lawyers also tried to secure an arrest warrant against Ehud Barak, Israel's defence minister, while he was visiting Britain. They did not succeed since as a serving minister Barak still has diplomatic immunity.
Israeli leaders have grown increasingly frustrated about the threat of legal action against individuals and said they would be pressing Scotland to change UK law in meetings today in Jerusalem.
"The risk to senior Israeli figures does concrete and immediate damage to bilateral relations", said the deputy foreign minister, Danny Ayalon, today.
"Organisations that are hostile to Israel try to exploit the legal channels and legal tools to threaten the Israeli and British decision-makers, including the authorities of the attorney general herself, and to thereby create political facts that should be determined around the diplomatic negotiating table."The UK is one of a number of countries where private prosecutions can be brought for alleged war crimes committed abroad. Following the attempt to obtain an arrest warrant for Livni from a London magistrates' court last month, the Guardian reported Foreign Office plans to change the legal process so that the attorney general would first approve warrants before suspected war criminals could be arrested. The "safeguards" were to apply to all visiting foreign leaders, not just Israelis, but provoked outrage from lawyers.
"If there is evidence against Israeli leaders and a judge thinks that there is a case to answer, then why does the process need to be changed?", said Daniel Machover, a partner at Hickman & Rose, whose firm obtained an arrest warrant in 2005 for the Israeli general, Doron Almog.
"In my view, it is not constitutionally proper to give the attorney general involvment at the arrest stage. We would not have a politician standing next to a policeman who decides whether or not to arrest someone, why should we have a politician standing next to a judge?"
* Rory McCarthy in Jerusalem and Afua Hirsch
* guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 5 January 2010 19.22 GMT
* Article history
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ja ... ts-britain

The government is determined to protect high-ranking Israeli officials from arrest in the UK, the attorney general said, as it emerged that a further visit by the Israeli military had been cancelled.
Speaking at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem today, Baroness Scotland said Israeli leaders should not face arrest for war crimes under the law of "universal jurisdiction", following attempts by British lawyers last month to obtain a warrant for the former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni.
"The government is looking urgently at ways in which the UK system might be changed to avoid this situation arising again," Scotland said. "Israel's leaders should always be able to travel freely to the UK."
Scotland's assurance comes as the Guardian learned that the Israeli military had cancelled a visit by a team of its officers to Britain after fears they risked arrest on possible war crimes charges.
A group of officers, reportedly from the rank of major up to colonel, were invited by the British army for a meeting on military co-operation but cancelled last week. There were also reports today that Israeli officials feared possible arrest warrants and contacted British authorities to demand a guarantee that the officers would not be arrested.
Last week, British officials reportedly said they could offer no such guarantee and the Israeli military promptly cancelled the visit. The Israeli military, also referred to as the Israel Defence Force, declined to comment. News of the latest cancellation by high-profile Israeli politicians or army officers is likely to intensify debate around the ability of UK-based lawyers to obtain arrest warrants.
In October, Moshe Ya'alon, a former general and current cabinet minister, turned down an invitation to visit London for fear of arrest over an Israeli air strike in Gaza dating back to 2002. Two weeks earlier, lawyers also tried to secure an arrest warrant against Ehud Barak, Israel's defence minister, while he was visiting Britain. They did not succeed since as a serving minister Barak still has diplomatic immunity.
Israeli leaders have grown increasingly frustrated about the threat of legal action against individuals and said they would be pressing Scotland to change UK law in meetings today in Jerusalem.
"The risk to senior Israeli figures does concrete and immediate damage to bilateral relations", said the deputy foreign minister, Danny Ayalon, today.
"Organisations that are hostile to Israel try to exploit the legal channels and legal tools to threaten the Israeli and British decision-makers, including the authorities of the attorney general herself, and to thereby create political facts that should be determined around the diplomatic negotiating table."The UK is one of a number of countries where private prosecutions can be brought for alleged war crimes committed abroad. Following the attempt to obtain an arrest warrant for Livni from a London magistrates' court last month, the Guardian reported Foreign Office plans to change the legal process so that the attorney general would first approve warrants before suspected war criminals could be arrested. The "safeguards" were to apply to all visiting foreign leaders, not just Israelis, but provoked outrage from lawyers.
"If there is evidence against Israeli leaders and a judge thinks that there is a case to answer, then why does the process need to be changed?", said Daniel Machover, a partner at Hickman & Rose, whose firm obtained an arrest warrant in 2005 for the Israeli general, Doron Almog.
"In my view, it is not constitutionally proper to give the attorney general involvment at the arrest stage. We would not have a politician standing next to a policeman who decides whether or not to arrest someone, why should we have a politician standing next to a judge?"
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Gaza flooded after Israel opens dam gates
Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:04 GMT
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Israel has opened the floodgates of one of its dams in the eastern part of the Gaza Strip, flooding Palestinian houses and causing severe damage.
The Israeli authorities opened the dam's floodgates without any prior warning or coordination with local authorities in Gaza, stunning the residents of the area, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported late on Monday.
There has been heavy rain in the region over the past 24 hours. It seems the Israeli authorities could not handle the huge amount of rainwater and decided to open the floodgates without prior warning.
Because Gaza is located in a low-lying area and the elevation decreases on the way to the Mediterranean Sea, water gushed into the area, flooding two Palestinian villages and displacing a hundred Gazan families.
The locals say Israel intentionally caused the floods, the Press TV correspondent said.
The waters from the dam, called the Valley of Gaza, flooded houses in Johr al-Deek village, which is southeast of Gaza City, and Nusirat in the eastern part of the territory, where the Al-Nusirat refugee camp is also located.
The Valley of Gaza is about 8 kilometers long. It starts on the eastern Gaza border with Israel and ends in the Mediterranean.
The houses of many Palestinians have been flooded and a number of people are trapped inside or on their roofs, while many have also gone missing, the Press TV correspondent said.
Rescue teams are using small boats to evacuate the trapped people.
Hamas has condemned the act as a war crime and has called on all concerned parties to intervene and offer assistance to the locals.
The flooding has made life more difficult for the Gazans, especially for those still living in tents because their homes were destroyed in the December 2008-January 2009 Israeli war on the Gaza Strip.
In the war, more than 1,400 people were killed, mostly women and children, and over 10,000 houses were destroyed or damaged, forcing at least 500 families to live in tents.
Very little progress is seen in reconstruction of the devastated areas in the Gaza Strip, mostly due to the Israeli blockade, which has prevented the delivery of building materials to the coastal enclave.
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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:04 GMT
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020202

Israel has opened the floodgates of one of its dams in the eastern part of the Gaza Strip, flooding Palestinian houses and causing severe damage.
The Israeli authorities opened the dam's floodgates without any prior warning or coordination with local authorities in Gaza, stunning the residents of the area, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported late on Monday.
There has been heavy rain in the region over the past 24 hours. It seems the Israeli authorities could not handle the huge amount of rainwater and decided to open the floodgates without prior warning.
Because Gaza is located in a low-lying area and the elevation decreases on the way to the Mediterranean Sea, water gushed into the area, flooding two Palestinian villages and displacing a hundred Gazan families.
The locals say Israel intentionally caused the floods, the Press TV correspondent said.
The waters from the dam, called the Valley of Gaza, flooded houses in Johr al-Deek village, which is southeast of Gaza City, and Nusirat in the eastern part of the territory, where the Al-Nusirat refugee camp is also located.
The Valley of Gaza is about 8 kilometers long. It starts on the eastern Gaza border with Israel and ends in the Mediterranean.
The houses of many Palestinians have been flooded and a number of people are trapped inside or on their roofs, while many have also gone missing, the Press TV correspondent said.
Rescue teams are using small boats to evacuate the trapped people.
Hamas has condemned the act as a war crime and has called on all concerned parties to intervene and offer assistance to the locals.
The flooding has made life more difficult for the Gazans, especially for those still living in tents because their homes were destroyed in the December 2008-January 2009 Israeli war on the Gaza Strip.
In the war, more than 1,400 people were killed, mostly women and children, and over 10,000 houses were destroyed or damaged, forcing at least 500 families to live in tents.
Very little progress is seen in reconstruction of the devastated areas in the Gaza Strip, mostly due to the Israeli blockade, which has prevented the delivery of building materials to the coastal enclave.
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GB is completely bankrupt. I imagine that the London Bankers have told #10 Downing street that they will pull the rug out from under GB if any israelis are arrested. Seems pretty logical.
Interestingly enough, israel is having the same problem. The Judicial branch is at odds with the executive branch. Seems that the judicial branch doesn't approve of some actions of the ex.
It's been long ago proven that a theocracy doesn't work out. More and more israelis are seeing that israel is self-destructive. The lunacy of spreading DU on land that they hope to one day occupy is a sure sign that israel has little planning behind their methods.
Interestingly enough, israel is having the same problem. The Judicial branch is at odds with the executive branch. Seems that the judicial branch doesn't approve of some actions of the ex.
It's been long ago proven that a theocracy doesn't work out. More and more israelis are seeing that israel is self-destructive. The lunacy of spreading DU on land that they hope to one day occupy is a sure sign that israel has little planning behind their methods.
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Palestinian graves found damaged after settlers visit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8472193.stm
Damaged graves and racist graffiti have been found in the Palestinian village of Awarta in the northern West Bank after a Jewish group visited the area.

Food remnants were left on the tombstones
Palestinians said they had seen Jewish pilgrims, escorted by Israeli soldiers, in the area, which is also a Jewish burial site.
The Israeli military said it viewed the incident very seriously and was opening a military police investigation.
It comes a month after an arson attack on a mosque in the same area.
At least two tombstones were damaged in the cemetery outside the village, and food and rubbish were left on graves.
In the village, offensive slogans about Arabs were found scrawled in Hebrew, English and Russian.
Israelis are forbidden from entering Awarta, but the Israeli military occasionally organises group trips for settlers to visit nearby Jewish tombs.
Palestinians told the Israeli rights group B'tselem that such a visit had taken place on Tuesday night, and the damage was discovered on Wednesday morning.
B'tselem said the tombs may have been ones that had been previously broken and repaired.
Local media quoted a group that organises visits by settlers to Jewish tombs as saying "we have no right wing or anti-Arab ideology and if someone from our group is found responsible for these acts, we would be the first to condemn them".
This comes two days after 10 Jewish settlers from the nearby settlement of Yitzhar were arrested in a pre-dawn raid.
Police said they wanted to see if there was a link between the individuals and the burning of a mosque in the village of Yasuf in December.
Offensive slogans were daubed on the mosque wall in Hebrew.
Some hard-line settlers have said they will attack Palestinians in retaliation for any Israeli government measures they see as threatening Jewish settlements.
The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently announced a ten-month lull in permits for new settlement homes on the West Bank, not including East Jerusalem.
All Jewish settlements in the West Bank, occupied by Israel in 1967, are illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8472193.stm
Damaged graves and racist graffiti have been found in the Palestinian village of Awarta in the northern West Bank after a Jewish group visited the area.

Food remnants were left on the tombstones
Palestinians said they had seen Jewish pilgrims, escorted by Israeli soldiers, in the area, which is also a Jewish burial site.
The Israeli military said it viewed the incident very seriously and was opening a military police investigation.
It comes a month after an arson attack on a mosque in the same area.
At least two tombstones were damaged in the cemetery outside the village, and food and rubbish were left on graves.
In the village, offensive slogans about Arabs were found scrawled in Hebrew, English and Russian.
Israelis are forbidden from entering Awarta, but the Israeli military occasionally organises group trips for settlers to visit nearby Jewish tombs.
Palestinians told the Israeli rights group B'tselem that such a visit had taken place on Tuesday night, and the damage was discovered on Wednesday morning.
B'tselem said the tombs may have been ones that had been previously broken and repaired.
Local media quoted a group that organises visits by settlers to Jewish tombs as saying "we have no right wing or anti-Arab ideology and if someone from our group is found responsible for these acts, we would be the first to condemn them".
This comes two days after 10 Jewish settlers from the nearby settlement of Yitzhar were arrested in a pre-dawn raid.
Police said they wanted to see if there was a link between the individuals and the burning of a mosque in the village of Yasuf in December.
Offensive slogans were daubed on the mosque wall in Hebrew.
Some hard-line settlers have said they will attack Palestinians in retaliation for any Israeli government measures they see as threatening Jewish settlements.
The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently announced a ten-month lull in permits for new settlement homes on the West Bank, not including East Jerusalem.
All Jewish settlements in the West Bank, occupied by Israel in 1967, are illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this.
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It seems that israel is getting a bad rap;
"The commercials, part of an initiative called Making the Case for Israel,",,,, "The campaign urges citizens to show that Israel is modern, sophisticated and peace-loving."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1479056/
Someone forgot to mention to Netanyahu and Lieberman that israel is "peace loving"
We've killed a million Iraqis because of WND. The U.S. is simply the mercenary arm of Tel Aviv policy. Pretty disgusting.
"The commercials, part of an initiative called Making the Case for Israel,",,,, "The campaign urges citizens to show that Israel is modern, sophisticated and peace-loving."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1479056/
Someone forgot to mention to Netanyahu and Lieberman that israel is "peace loving"
We've killed a million Iraqis because of WND. The U.S. is simply the mercenary arm of Tel Aviv policy. Pretty disgusting.
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Well, once more the israelis are expected to attack either Iran, Syria or Lebanon.
These countries are preparing for war fairly soon.
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... 89930/1006
"The Iranian president said he expects war to break out somewhere between spring and summer of this year"
All I can say is that I hope that it doesn't happen. It may just be posturing before the Iranian election.
Russia and China don't want war in the middle east. Between the 2 of them, they can punish the west very severely.
Reportedly, Netanyahu threatened Putin IN the Kremlin on a recent clandestine trip to inform Putin of his demands. Reportedly, Putin told him that he would make israel a cinder pile in 24 hours. Very depressing.
These countries are preparing for war fairly soon.
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll ... 89930/1006
"The Iranian president said he expects war to break out somewhere between spring and summer of this year"
All I can say is that I hope that it doesn't happen. It may just be posturing before the Iranian election.
Russia and China don't want war in the middle east. Between the 2 of them, they can punish the west very severely.
Reportedly, Netanyahu threatened Putin IN the Kremlin on a recent clandestine trip to inform Putin of his demands. Reportedly, Putin told him that he would make israel a cinder pile in 24 hours. Very depressing.
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Poor israel is still looking for it's legitimate place in history. "Israel also considers Europe a hostile target."
http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/ ... ut-europe/
http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/ ... ut-europe/
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By Gilad Atzmon
"It is an established fact that not a single Jewish historical text has been written between the 1st century (Josephus Flavius) and early 19th century (Isaak Markus Jost). For almost 2 thousand years Jews were not interested in their own or anyone else's past"
The "Holocaust Business" is starting to suffer some serious doubts;
"As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians."
"Some of the worst mass murderers in history were Jews" writes ZionistSever Plocker on the Israeli Ynet disclosing the Holodomor and Jewish involvement in this colossal crime, probably the greatest crime of the 20th century."
Holdomar-"translation: murder by hunger) " Up to 10 million died in the Holdomar.
http://www.ukrainegenocide.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
http://www.rense.com/general90/truthdd.htm
"It is an established fact that not a single Jewish historical text has been written between the 1st century (Josephus Flavius) and early 19th century (Isaak Markus Jost). For almost 2 thousand years Jews were not interested in their own or anyone else's past"
The "Holocaust Business" is starting to suffer some serious doubts;
"As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians."
"Some of the worst mass murderers in history were Jews" writes ZionistSever Plocker on the Israeli Ynet disclosing the Holodomor and Jewish involvement in this colossal crime, probably the greatest crime of the 20th century."
Holdomar-"translation: murder by hunger) " Up to 10 million died in the Holdomar.
http://www.ukrainegenocide.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
http://www.rense.com/general90/truthdd.htm
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