*grabs a drink and, heads for the lounger*
anyone else? anything you want there, as long as it's brown.........
(and liquid, OED, I know what you're thinking)..
how about a cartoon?
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And you wonder why we have drought in the Sierras. Go and dance your little heart out!pinemom wrote:ya, I hadnt done the dance in about 3 yrs....but I will have to concentrate now...
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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theCryptofishist
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Meh. I'm looking for a padded plinth or high-low mat. Ideally, I want to get stinking drunk while proning. This might be a good thing. I'm so combative that I tried to punch the nurses after an operation.
(I still think they were messing with me. Well, almost.)
Edited to change two whole letters!
(I still think they were messing with me. Well, almost.)
Edited to change two whole letters!
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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[quote]One state’s trash …
Promisingly for Nevada, planned show plant aims to turn waste from other places into energy
By Stephanie Tavares - LV Sun
Californians are planning on dumping more of their garbage in Nevada, and federal law says Nevada can’t simply ban it, officials say.
So Gov. Jim Gibbons and others are proposing that Californians pay for a state-of-the-art recycling and waste-to-energy plant that could turn that garbage into much-needed revenue.
For starters, Nevada might be able to pull out recyclables and sell them on the market. However, San Francisco has a mandatory recycling program, so it seems unlikely that many recyclables from there will be left in the truckloads driven across the state line.
Another option, and one looking increasingly attractive, is to use the trash to create valuable fuel, electricity and biochar, a highly porous charcoal made from organic waste.
It’s not a far-fetched idea. Cities across the country burn their trash for energy. But it comes at the expense of air quality.
A group of Las Vegas investors say they have the perfect solution — a technology that turns garbage into energy without the usual air pollution. Concord Blue Energy is importing components for a 250-kilowatt chemically processed waste-to-energy demonstration plant that it plans to operate near McCarran International Airport.
This plant, in Paradise township, would be the first U.S. demonstration site. The company says it already has potential customers from throughout the nation lined up to fly in and check out the demonstration project.
Clark County officials are handling the final stages of permitting, and the company expects the plant components to arrive from India by the end of the month. The plant should be operational around the beginning of 2010, they say.
Concord Blue is the American licensee of a German operation that has plants operating in Japan and India. It also has a demonstration plant in Germany.
Unlike most waste-to-energy or biomass plants in the U.S., these plants do not burn waste in furnaces. Instead, they use a system in which the waste is decomposed through pyrolysis, which involves heating organic materials to a point where elements are separated, allowing ethanol, hydrogen and other valuable gases to be extracted. The system needs outside fuel (usually propane) to start the plant up, but after that, biochar fuels the process.
The system is considered environmentally friendly because it disposes of waste without generating massive greenhouse gas emissions or mountains of fly ash. A full-scale plant (about 20 times larger than the demonstration plant headed for Southern Nevada) has about the same emissions as a small car, Concord Blue says. The byproducts of the chemical process are a small amount of ash, which can be sold to cement manufacturers, and biochar, which is selling for about $150 a ton to compost makers and coal plants that burn the char for fuel.
Garbage-to-energy plants are considered renewable energy operations in Nevada thanks to changes made during the past legislative session. The plant planned for the Las Vegas area could consume one to three tons of garbage daily, depending on the type of waste fed into the system.
It is exactly the kind of thing lawmakers want to have in Northern Nevada, says Sen. Randolph Townsend of Washoe County, the GOP’s senior state lawmaker on energy issues.
Nevada is already a dumping ground for California. A dump near Reno takes in about 275,000 tons of trash from California each year. And there are permits for two other California dumps on Nevada soil. But Northern Nevadans have had their fill of their neighboring state’s garbage. San Francisco-based waste company Recology’s plan to haul up to 4,000 tons of trash a day and dump it near Winnemucca in exchange for about $1 million in annual fees has run into strong resistance. Locals fear the dump will put their underground water supply at risk and pollute their air, Townsend says.
“These waste-to-energy plants are a way to get rid of the trash in a way that makes sense,â€
Promisingly for Nevada, planned show plant aims to turn waste from other places into energy
By Stephanie Tavares - LV Sun
Californians are planning on dumping more of their garbage in Nevada, and federal law says Nevada can’t simply ban it, officials say.
So Gov. Jim Gibbons and others are proposing that Californians pay for a state-of-the-art recycling and waste-to-energy plant that could turn that garbage into much-needed revenue.
For starters, Nevada might be able to pull out recyclables and sell them on the market. However, San Francisco has a mandatory recycling program, so it seems unlikely that many recyclables from there will be left in the truckloads driven across the state line.
Another option, and one looking increasingly attractive, is to use the trash to create valuable fuel, electricity and biochar, a highly porous charcoal made from organic waste.
It’s not a far-fetched idea. Cities across the country burn their trash for energy. But it comes at the expense of air quality.
A group of Las Vegas investors say they have the perfect solution — a technology that turns garbage into energy without the usual air pollution. Concord Blue Energy is importing components for a 250-kilowatt chemically processed waste-to-energy demonstration plant that it plans to operate near McCarran International Airport.
This plant, in Paradise township, would be the first U.S. demonstration site. The company says it already has potential customers from throughout the nation lined up to fly in and check out the demonstration project.
Clark County officials are handling the final stages of permitting, and the company expects the plant components to arrive from India by the end of the month. The plant should be operational around the beginning of 2010, they say.
Concord Blue is the American licensee of a German operation that has plants operating in Japan and India. It also has a demonstration plant in Germany.
Unlike most waste-to-energy or biomass plants in the U.S., these plants do not burn waste in furnaces. Instead, they use a system in which the waste is decomposed through pyrolysis, which involves heating organic materials to a point where elements are separated, allowing ethanol, hydrogen and other valuable gases to be extracted. The system needs outside fuel (usually propane) to start the plant up, but after that, biochar fuels the process.
The system is considered environmentally friendly because it disposes of waste without generating massive greenhouse gas emissions or mountains of fly ash. A full-scale plant (about 20 times larger than the demonstration plant headed for Southern Nevada) has about the same emissions as a small car, Concord Blue says. The byproducts of the chemical process are a small amount of ash, which can be sold to cement manufacturers, and biochar, which is selling for about $150 a ton to compost makers and coal plants that burn the char for fuel.
Garbage-to-energy plants are considered renewable energy operations in Nevada thanks to changes made during the past legislative session. The plant planned for the Las Vegas area could consume one to three tons of garbage daily, depending on the type of waste fed into the system.
It is exactly the kind of thing lawmakers want to have in Northern Nevada, says Sen. Randolph Townsend of Washoe County, the GOP’s senior state lawmaker on energy issues.
Nevada is already a dumping ground for California. A dump near Reno takes in about 275,000 tons of trash from California each year. And there are permits for two other California dumps on Nevada soil. But Northern Nevadans have had their fill of their neighboring state’s garbage. San Francisco-based waste company Recology’s plan to haul up to 4,000 tons of trash a day and dump it near Winnemucca in exchange for about $1 million in annual fees has run into strong resistance. Locals fear the dump will put their underground water supply at risk and pollute their air, Townsend says.
“These waste-to-energy plants are a way to get rid of the trash in a way that makes sense,â€
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
Thank you fishy for introducing the word "plinth" into my vocabulary. I googled the word and found several orthotic sites with exercise mats on short elevated bases. I was thinking maybe a couple of stout lawnchairs or poolside recliners might make a good base for a large pad, and much more inexpensive than an english model with teakwood base and leather covering over a 4 inch medium density mat ( $2,400.00 pounds).
Speaking of vocabulary, I learned that in Austrailia that "snag" is slang for hotdog. Tonight I think I'll fix a couple of snags, and tuck in with a pint.
Cheers.
Speaking of vocabulary, I learned that in Austrailia that "snag" is slang for hotdog. Tonight I think I'll fix a couple of snags, and tuck in with a pint.
Cheers.
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well, uh......Deb Prothero wrote:Howdy folks. How's everyone today.
I'm thinking we need some lounge chairs here. How about this one.
ygmir wrote, (snipped):
For me, and, this is just my opinion Deb, I'd rather leave what's in "the bar", in the bar..........that stuff was not mine, was put there by others long before me..........and, so, well, it seems to belong there. It has it's own traditions, and, to me, deserves to keep them intact.
I also realize, I only speak for myself, surely, I don't propose to impose my feelings on you. You should do as you please.
That said, I'd love a juke (perhaps, a gramophone that magically plays CD's), in here, perhaps a "Trapeze of Inverted Titillating Suspension", a "Lounger Inviting Carnal Knowledge", and so on.........
Just some thoughts..........
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theCryptofishist
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No, no, no. That sounds rickity and scary. YOu have no idea what it is to get on and off furniture without feet. We've got to have it solid and it has to be anchored to ground/playa floor. Maybe TITWI and Pinemom can adapt the bed design and we can have one of our polymaths apholster it.Oldguy wrote:I was thinking maybe a couple of stout lawnchairs or poolside recliners might make a good base for a large pad, ...
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
A captains bed base or a waterbed base would be strong enough. I've seen several heavy oak bases at yardsales, most have plywood tops. I have a twin bed base with 3 drawers in bottom part, 2x12 planks on sides to make it 24 inches high. It is very heavy. Maybe you could look for one of those.
Somthing like that? It would be easy to make predrilled holes to assemble on playa. The biggest piece would be the plywood top.
Remember, I was a medical/surgical nurse for 10 years. I used transfer boards and Hoyer lifts, and many types of therapy beds. Once when transfering a lady from a suspention bed to a bedside commode she panicked, grabbed my neck and jerked it down. I still have neck pain. I think I understand a little about the fear of falling. I was also a paratrooper for 3 years in the Army.
Once in a training jump a trooper came down thru my suspention lines and got tangled. We started swinging from side to side spilling air. I yelled at him to climb down to me. He did, eventually, and we both landed hard under my chute. For a little while there I had a distinct fear of falling...
Somthing like that? It would be easy to make predrilled holes to assemble on playa. The biggest piece would be the plywood top.
Remember, I was a medical/surgical nurse for 10 years. I used transfer boards and Hoyer lifts, and many types of therapy beds. Once when transfering a lady from a suspention bed to a bedside commode she panicked, grabbed my neck and jerked it down. I still have neck pain. I think I understand a little about the fear of falling. I was also a paratrooper for 3 years in the Army.
Once in a training jump a trooper came down thru my suspention lines and got tangled. We started swinging from side to side spilling air. I yelled at him to climb down to me. He did, eventually, and we both landed hard under my chute. For a little while there I had a distinct fear of falling...
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hey Fishy:theCryptofishist wrote:No, no, no. That sounds rickity and scary. YOu have no idea what it is to get on and off furniture without feet. We've got to have it solid and it has to be anchored to ground/playa floor. Maybe TITWI and Pinemom can adapt the bed design and we can have one of our polymaths apholster it.Oldguy wrote:I was thinking maybe a couple of stout lawnchairs or poolside recliners might make a good base for a large pad, ...
you need something built?
my rope bridge and stuff held up pretty good............I think......
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*kicks the coals in the simulated dirt/campground area over here in the corner........* nice touch ygmir. I think I'll start a bean pot tomorrow morning in a dutch oven in the simulated camp area. I'm thinking smoked ham hocks, but I could also do bacon. (seems some folks around here like that kind of pork.) Those biscuits sure look tasty.
Would anyone mind if I made a Japanese soaking tub and put it over here by the camp area?
Would anyone mind if I made a Japanese soaking tub and put it over here by the camp area?
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*drooling*
dno, bleeze ellorm mage you bens n hammmm........(can't talk, drooling over beans and ham idea)
make a soaking tub, or, any darn thing you want........
maybe :
"Tub Undulating with Beautiful, Energetic, Sexy, Talented, Ecstatic, and Adamantly Kinky, folks"
just a thought.........
*throws wood on fire*
dno, bleeze ellorm mage you bens n hammmm........(can't talk, drooling over beans and ham idea)
make a soaking tub, or, any darn thing you want........
maybe :
"Tub Undulating with Beautiful, Energetic, Sexy, Talented, Ecstatic, and Adamantly Kinky, folks"
just a thought.........
*throws wood on fire*
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ygmir wrote:hey Fishy:theCryptofishist wrote:No, no, no. That sounds rickity and scary. YOu have no idea what it is to get on and off furniture without feet. We've got to have it solid and it has to be anchored to ground/playa floor. Maybe TITWI and Pinemom can adapt the bed design and we can have one of our polymaths apholster it.Oldguy wrote:I was thinking maybe a couple of stout lawnchairs or poolside recliners might make a good base for a large pad, ...
you need something built?
my rope bridge and stuff held up pretty good............I think......
Yup, if we start early, there's lot's of us willing to build stuff........
TITWI
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It's show time, folks.....Joe Gideon
To be on the wire is life. The rest is waiting.
It's show time, folks.....Joe Gideon
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theCryptofishist
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I thought we were furnishing this bar...
It might be nice to have a plinth set up irl but I odn't have room here.
Thank you for your kindnesses.
It might be nice to have a plinth set up irl but I odn't have room here.
Thank you for your kindnesses.
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri