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Post by can't sit still » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:55 pm

There is a claim that the crash in Dubai was a whole lot more than the reported $ 60 billion;
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2009120 ... l-nuke.htm
They compare the $60 B to the nose of the camel in the tent.
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Post by can't sit still » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:05 pm

Seems that a lot of people have lost a LOT of money. Seems that not all of them are taking it lying down;
"EXTERMINATED VAMPIRE SQUIDS

I can understand why the leading gangbangers at Goldman Sachs (GS) are getting nervous as the number of parasitic vampire squids that have been exterminated keeps growing. Andrei Kozlov, Russian central banker, was riddled with bullets. Dead hedge fund managers include Seth Tobias, Oleg Zhukovsky, Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet, Michael Klein, Peter Wuffli and Kirk Wright.

The list goes on. It includes David Kellerman, Freddie Mac CFO and even James MacDonald the CEO of the Rockefeller family offices. I suppose we should wish their famlies the best; except for New York tax attorney William Parente. Whoever he angered worked corruption of blood and his wife and two children were also murdered. There are many more examples.
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Post by can't sit still » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:44 pm

This is a good article from Roubini;
"The logical extension of central banking is private sector ruin, public sector advancement, endless authoritarianism (police and military jobs being endlessly attractive), and eventually national collapse."
He argues that we must completely get rid of central banking.
http://www.thedailybell.com/642/Nouriel ... omies.html
The producing economy is tired of being screwed over time and time again by the financial parasites. I'm hoping that the producing economy will find a way to do business without including the parasites.
The financial parasites produce endless wars and crashes for profit. If the producing economy can tear loose from their control, we'll have FAR fewer wars and crashes.
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Post by cowboyangel » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:31 pm

Amen to that. Thanks Dan. Been busy trying to pay the bills. And make a film.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:25 am

Email Shows GOP Deal w/ Banks To Screw Homeowners

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This sums it all up in a nutshell and is the smoking gun.
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:53 pm

A great synopsis of the financial collapse-101





Global Research, December 10, 2009
richardccook.com



The crisis of 2008-2009 exposed the U.S. financial system as being unstable, subject to abuse, and tending to favor the rich while putting everyone else deeper into debt.



The housing bubble was based on the biggest credit inflation in history. It raised the prices of homes to unprecedented levels but created the deepest recession in a generation when it collapsed. $6 trillion in wealth has now simply disappeared.



Meanwhile, unregulated global capitalism continues to concentrate wealth, outsource jobs to the cheapest possible labor markets, accelerate U.S. unemployment, and destroy local and regional economies.



Even if the recession results in a modest recovery, it is likely to be of the “joblessâ€
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Post by can't sit still » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:40 pm

Here's an interesting idea;
"China executed Tuesday the former manager of a securities company who embezzled millions of dollars"
This sounds good to;
"China has also executed government officials in its long-running fight against corruption,"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34331094/ns ... iapacific/
I LIKE it. :twisted:
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Post by cowboyangel » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:54 pm

Hmmmmmm...deport Geithner, Bernanke, Summers, Greenspan, Dimon, Blankfeld...to China? That kind of rendition I could go for.
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Post by littleflower » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:35 pm

can't sit still wrote:Here's an interesting idea;
"China executed Tuesday the former manager of a securities company who embezzled millions of dollars"
This sounds good to;
"China has also executed government officials in its long-running fight against corruption,"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34331094/ns ... iapacific/
I LIKE it. :twisted:
the problem is ... how can we be sure that the executors are less corrupt than the executed?

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Post by can't sit still » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:25 am

You make a valid point. One hopes that the example would make others less likely to be corrupt.
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:34 am

Here's what we're going to do. Make Dubai the 51st state.

Problem solved.

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Post by ygmir » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:47 am

I'd rather 51 was mexico.......
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Post by can't sit still » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:46 pm

From Don Stacey; [email protected]

Here is a typical stock market day, which has repeated daily since the second week of March. At 6 AM when I turn on my computer, a dozen stocks will register a 100 share buy at 5 dollars above the previous day's closing price. If such a rise were or are the result of overseas trading, the stock will register a minimum of 10,000 shares, not 100. the 5$ inflated 100 share buy is a goldman sachs trick that gets reversed at 9:31 AM so that they themselves can buy the stocks cheaper. Each day stocks will climb between one half and 2 percent between 8 AM and up to and including the first 20 minutes of the trading day. On most days goldman will "park" the market at the new higher level with no shares changing hands until 3:00. a small countrend move may occur between noon and 1pm, At 3:00 to 3:30 PM the second injection of taxpayer money sends stock prices up another 1 or 2 percent with the high being achieved at exactly the 4:00 close. After hours traders will bid up stocks still further anticipating a repeat scenario the following day. The entire trading day is pre-programmed via computer program. On a tick by tick basis any buy order will prompt the computer to run the price down for a few minutes to try to persuade the buyer to sell it back quickly at a loss. Any sell or short order will prompt the computer to run the price up in the same way. This occurs 100% of the time. Intraday, the computer program used by Goldman is identical to the computer program used by the FTSE. On some days the programs run in a mirror image to each other. Now remember that there is a five hour time difference, so the very idea that what happened tick for tick at 11:05 GMT in London recurred at 11:05 EST in New York is absurd. This could only occur if the both markets were pre-programmed by the same entity. Since April, Goldman has adjusted the computer program so that all dips and downmoves are flattened out or minimized and all up moves are magnified percentage wise. So while the FTSE has had negative closes, the US markets are never permitted to have a negative close. - except when there is a pre-programmed correction in play. The perfect order and symmetry of stock charts in these last nine months is a dead giveaway. Free markets are emotional, not even and smooth . If you look at a chart this will be immediately apparant to you. Looking at the technical indicators, the "free market" wanted stock prices to retest the lows beginning the first week of August. Since that week, all indicators have declined and volume has continued to decline at a rapid pace,all the while stock prices continued to climb in an utterly nonsensical fashion. Without stock trading volume, Goldman can do whatever it pleases. It does not require buyers to run up the price of stocks to higher levels. not even one single buyer. It can do this via computers completely on its own. And it does. Daily.

Throughout this period most economic news has been negative, further bolstering the case for a rigged market. Just as any negative economic report is about to be released the Treasury, via Goldman, jams the price of stocks to absurd highs to prevent any decline at all. In the month of November alone over 12 billion dollars NET was cashed out of stocks by US investors. yet there was no price decline at all. stock prices rose or remained flat while 12 billion dollars was removed from stocks. the injections of taxpayer money defied even one moment of correction in stock prices.

CNBC analysts have used laughable arguments to come up with fundamental reasons for these anomalies. They are fully aware that the market is rigged but will not say so. Thousands of investment firms, however, HAVE said so, and I urge you to investigate this further and to finally, put a stop to it and put the heads of goldman sachs in prison where they belong. Lastly, I, we, demand that goldman's stolen profits be returned to American investors immediately.

The stock market functions by "price discovery" when it is a free market. This means that a buyer and a seller agree on a price. Since March there has not been one single moment of price discovery. Not one day of a lower price has been permitted. There have been entire weeks when every stock market on the planet had a selloff, correcting 10% on average. On the NYSE no correction occurred and even the foreign stocks which sold off in their own countries did not decline very much on the NYSE. We now know why this occurred. It is shocking and infuriating that neither Congress nor the SEC has put a stop to this fraud. For indeed it is fraud. We are asking Congress to investigate this,to end it and to prosecute the guilty. "

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Post by can't sit still » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:21 pm

The FED recently conjured up $trillions out of thin air. WE, the people are expected to repay this money that the FEDs gave to the banks. WE have to work hard to produce $6 trillion of real [sort of] money that they created with just an electronic book entry.



http://www.henrymakow.com/half_of_us_de ... o_fed.html
Half Of US Debt Is Owed to Fed

December 1, 2009

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

Chelsea Clinton's engagement today to Jewish banker Marc Mezvinsky, who works for Goldman Sachs, is another reminder that America is ruled by the Illuminati clan, joined by marriage, money and love of Lucifer. (Al Gore's daughter married the grandson of Jewish banker, Jacob Schiff.)

The source of Illuminati power is the Fed which has pilfered the US government's credit card and used it to buy politicians and everything else worth owning, creating trillions in tax payer debt.

That money Ben Bernanke is throwing from the helicopter cost the Fed owners pennies but they expect the US taxpayer to refund face value. To be specific, the US National Debt is expected to reach $13 Trillion this year. That's about $44,000 for every man, woman and child in the US.

Almost six Trillion will be owed to the private Illuminati families who own the banks that own the Fed. For fiscal 2009, US taxpayers will cough up $380 Billion in interest, half of that to the Fed. By 2019, the cost of servicing the debt is expected to reach more than $700 Billion annually.

As you all know, billions were paid to these banks during the "credit crunch" so that they may now reward their lackeys with humongous bonuses. But as Goldman Sachs CEO, Lloyd Blankfein said, they "are doing God's work." Unfortunately, their God is Lucifer.


GUARDING THEIR 'INDEPENDENCE'

Ben Shalom Bernanke (Jewish) has warned Congress not to interfere with the Fed's "independence." In a veiled threat, he said it would "seriously impair the prospects for economic and financial stability in the United States."

This is a reminder that the US is the Illuminati's bitch, and should not get any other ideas, such as abolishing the Fed altogether and with it, six Trillion dollars in debt which they created out of thin air.

The American government is quite capable of accessing its own credit and creating its own currency.

The Illuminati bankers must be pleased with their investment in Barack Obama. The Federal government spent $3.5 Trillion during his first year in office, far exceeding any other first-year President. Of that $1.4 Trillion is deficit, and half of that is owed to guess whom.

The other half of the US debt is owed to countries like China, Russia, Brazil, UK and Japan, oil producing countries, states, offshore banks, pension funds, insurance companies, and mutual funds. About $400 Billion is owed to "individuals."


VAMPIRES

If its any comfort, in relation, the US is the world's 20th largest debtor in proportion to GNP,[so not as bad as other countries that are in the grip of these Banksters]. In other words, the same Illuminati families have their teeth into many other countries.

For example, the US deficit is estimated to be 94% of GDP. In Germany it's 178% ($63K per person); France is 236% (78K per person); and UK and Switzerland are 400% and 422% respectively ( $140K & $176 K per person.)

So you see, the Illuminati bankers have limitless wealth and all they lack is unlimited power, a problem which their NOW "World Government" will address. Then, no Congress will even attempt the charade of challenging the Fed's "independence."
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Post by can't sit still » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:39 pm

This article goes a long way towards proving that the lenders bear most of the blame for the bad loans;
"The FBI has been warning of an "epidemic" of mortgage fraud since September 2004. It also reports that lenders initiated 80% of these frauds.1"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k ... 69813.html
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:30 pm

One word.....revolution.
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Post by littleflower » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:51 pm

yeah, right ... cause a bunch of death and destruction in order to replace the current bunch of corrupt greedy power-hungry jerks with a different set of corrupt greedy power-hungry jerks.

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Post by can't sit still » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:39 pm

Cowboy,,,, one word won't do it. What form would you favor for a revolution? Who/what would you revolt against? What/where is the root?
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Post by cowboyangel » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:51 am

Well, I believe the most effective revolution is a revolution of the mind...that is studying and understanding what is really going on. Then a real worker revolution would be nice, and that needs organizing on a logarithmic scale.

Then we need a revolt in the military, a peaceful one where people with key information come forward and try to clean the mess up...a kind of bloodless mutiny. I'm not talking a futile bloodbath kind of revolution. But we do need a revolution or we are all pretty much dead anyway....with an earth that will not support our current direction.
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Post by Dad » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:58 am

I'm afraidthe terrorist organizations will end up kidnapping all these high power bankers and investors and start making demands. If we don't meet their demands they will start releasing them back to us 1 at a time.

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Post by curiousgnate » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:38 am

can't sit still/ i resent your (jewish) after ben bernanke's name. really is that necessary. I take offense! For obvious reasons!
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Post by can't sit still » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:52 am

You can resent it all you want. If you had a bit more perception and a bit less resentment, it would be obvious to you that the whole article was copied and pasted. If you want to REALLY take offense, read up on what the israelis are doing to their neighbors. It's inhumane.

Cowboy, I agree with you in principle. Where we disagree is in the term, "bloodless"
Because of the hierarchy of scoundrels, they would all be back in power in a few years. It happened in Romania after Ceausescu was executed. ALL the other rats came back. "Bloodless" is a very temporary solution.
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Post by ygmir » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:42 am

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Post by curiousgnate » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:17 am

while the article was copied and pasted, it was I believe representing your views. as you copied and pasted it as your comment. if not then OK. I take offense to what you copied and pasted and presented here in this forum. What I really hate is when people group people into certain catagories. I am a Jew, what does that mean? does it mean that I agree with what is going on in Israel? Does that mean that I am money grubbing and cheap? Please!
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Post by ygmir » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:14 am

curiousgnate wrote:while the article was copied and pasted, it was I believe representing your views. as you copied and pasted it as your comment. if not then OK. I take offense to what you copied and pasted and presented here in this forum. What I really hate is when people group people into certain catagories. I am a Jew, what does that mean? does it mean that I agree with what is going on in Israel? Does that mean that I am money grubbing and cheap? Please!
could some of your angst come from your possible self application to what you perceive as a negative comment aimed at you?

Merely pointing out he's a "Jew", though maybe not necessary, is not, in itself, any sort of indictment, IMHO.

He did not make any defamatory statement in that regard.
But, you seem to have chosen to take it that way, and, read words in that don't appear in his text.

Perhaps, your sensitivities to your own situation and or life choices, caused you to assume and imply an attitude that is not there?
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Post by can't sit still » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:19 am

curiousgnate, as EVERYONE knows, the E-Playa is not the place to visit if you don't want your emotional fingers and toes to get a good mashing. I'm going to assume that you're making an issue of the addendum about Bernanke because you feel the need for a good thrashing to justify feelings of persecution that have surfaced during the Christian holiday season. I'll be happy to oblige you.
Here's a quote from the great American inventor, Benjamin Franklin. This should give your feelings of persecution a great boost;

Benjamin Franklin 1789.
Statement in the Convention, concerning Jewish Immigration:
"There is a great danger for the United States of America, this great danger is
the Jew. Gentlemen, in every land which the Jews have settled, they have
depressed the normal level and lowered the degree of commercial honesty.
They have remained apart and unassimilated — they have created a state within
a state, and when they are opposed they attempt to strangle the nation
financially as in the case of Portugal and Spain.
For more than 1700 years,they have lamented their sorrowful fate — namely,
that they were driven out of their motherland, but gentlemen, if the civilized world
today should give them back Palestine and their property, they would
immediately find pressing reasons for not returning there. Why? Because they
are vampires — they cannot live among themselves; they must live among
Christians and others who do not belong to their race.
If they are not excluded from the United States by the Constitution, within less
than 100 years, they will stream into this country in such numbers they will rule
and destroy us and change our form of Government for which we Americans
shed our blood and sacrificed life, property and personal freedom.
If the Jews are not excluded, within 200 years our children will be working in the
fields to feed the Jews while they remain in the Counting House gleefully rubbing
their hands.
I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children's
children will curse you in your graves.
Their ideas are not those of Americans even when they have lived among us for
ten generations. The leopard cannot change its spots. The Jews are a danger to
this land and if they are allowed to enter they will imperil our institutions — they
should be excluded by the Constitution."
Copy of leaflet designed by the Author after the Munich
Agreement
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Post by curiousgnate » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:08 pm

fuck you!
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Post by ygmir » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:21 pm

me?

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Post by curiousgnate » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:47 pm

maybe, do you have a nice tight ass, and a good attitude?
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Post by ygmir » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:13 pm

no piggie noises from me...........
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