Hushville people. Are you out there?

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Post by goathead » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:44 pm

ygmir wrote:
winebuff wrote:Silence can be golden......especially when it is 3am and you are trying to sleep with a raging headache from the drink the guy gave you at the all night disco bar :)
good luck with that........
silence can also be relative........
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
especially if there are barbarians or goats wandering the night.
you have a lot of nerve trying to sleep.

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Post by winebuff » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:04 pm

I dont require alot of sleep so not going there to sleep. Just rejuvenate from time to time. Earplugs are a must though for me.

I have never been before and looking forward to just hanging with some incredible people. No expectations, no letdowns.
(But I bet is is flippin crazy mind-blowing amazing)

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Post by goathead » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:10 pm

sunrise to about 10 am is a good time to get a nap.
:D

unless breakfast is ready.
:lol:

and coffee.
:lol:

or more beer.

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Post by goathead » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:10 pm

or if your kidnapped.

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Post by winebuff » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:12 pm

lol, how about breakfast with a beer, coffee and a hot kidnapper

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Post by goathead » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:12 pm

or if you have work, "that is part of gifting" to do.

:D

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Post by winebuff » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:51 pm

Happy Holidays fellow husvillans guys and gals and all the other burners. May you dream of fire, music, pink hats and bicycles that are crazy amazing. Oh, and hot showers :D

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Post by timburly » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:43 am

MALLARD!




AntiM wrote:Can you hear me now?

The main point of Hushville is you know you won't get a smelly, noisy generator next to your head in a neighboring camp, or a sound system on top of your cozy little shade structure. Across the street? Passing by? Sure. Although we do diplomatically and individually try to work out noise issues... would you mind turning the speakers away? repositioning that generator? Not stopping the art car with the loud sound system on purpose just because you're in front of Hushville and you think we should all wake up?

And then there were the Mallards drumming ....
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Post by timburly » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:47 am

oH and that art car......just passed out from a long day/night of to many recreationals and that fucker pulled up.......karma's a bitch
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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:44 am

I still don't get why a group would choose to knowingly camp across from Hushville and then be completely comfortable with fucking with us sonically. Yes, the ladies who did the landgrab knew who we were, Ohio went over and said hello and let them know. We're a placed village, not so difficult to avoid us. So karma aside, what does this say about the Mallards who made that choice to drum when they were asked nicely to turn it aside, to maybe be more selective about when they chose to drum, to be good neighbors? Because B-man is about community as much as it is about personal freedom.

I don't give a crap if you're a hippie, but actions speak louder than words and all I can judge is the actions I could observe. The actions I saw shouted "self-centered assholes."

And unbelievably, on Monday morning, a young lady from Mallard was asking us to haul out "a few bags of recyclables". WTF? Uh, no, we're full. You managed to pack it in, you pack it out!

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Post by DrumTillYouBleed » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:35 am

[b]I still don't get why a group would choose to knowingly camp across from Hushville[/b]

You're right, this was completely intentional. We wanted to camp next to you guys. We heard you were so bright and cheery and welcoming that we had to be next to you. We've even decided to follow you guys around every year. If you're on the trash fence, we're going to the trash fence. If you're on 8 and D. We will be on 8 and D. Oh Hushville...this is the start of a wonderful LONG relationship. We've considered changing our name to Loudville, but that'd be too obvious.


[b]and then be completely comfortable with fucking with us sonically. Yes, the ladies who did the landgrab knew who we were, Ohio went over and said hello and let them know. [/b]

Maybe you should consider not camping so close to the action this year. 5 and D is kinda a busy area anyways.....
[b]
We're a placed village, not so difficult to avoid us. So karma aside, what does this say about the Mallards [/b]
We're all terrible baby raping, noise making people. MALLARD!

[b]who made that choice to drum when they were asked nicely to turn it aside, to maybe be more selective about when they chose to drum, to be good neighbors?[/b]

I did.

I figured you guys were to quiet. This was all intentional, it was MY intent to "fuck with you sonically", I had this planned years back. Wait until our camp is next to Hushville. Then BOOM drum.

[b]Because B-man is about community as much as it is about personal freedom.
[/b]
Holy of Molies, you said something worthwhile.

[b]
I don't give a crap if you're a hippie, but actions speak louder than words and all I can judge is the actions I could observe. The actions I saw shouted "self-centered assholes."[/b]

Says the camp who wants other camps to stop what they are doing so that they can appease the fragile virgin ears of Hushville.

"Excuse me! Excuse me!...all of Burning Man. I know you're having a good time, I know you spent a lot of money to come out here and to have fun. But Hushville wants to be quiet. It was hard for them to get out of their retirement home in Florida to come out here and well...it'd just be appreciated if you could make no noise in any way. What's that you say? They should of camped further out? Probably a good idea, but still, let everyone bow to the will of Hushville."

[b]And unbelievably, on Monday morning, a young lady from Mallard was asking us to haul out "a few bags of recyclables". WTF? Uh, no, we're full. You managed to pack it in, you pack it out![/b]

What happened to community!? Oh Hushville....Shame on you! Shame Shame Shame


I can't wait to drum next year at Burning Man. I hope you're near Hushville. Maybe we will bring Taiko drums so you will hear us no matter where we're at.


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Post by Dr. Pyro » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:10 am

For somebody's very first post, you certainly know how to piss a lot of people off.

Now that said, Barbie Death Camp isn't everyone's cup of tea I realize, but we have never intentionally gone out of our way to piss people off. If some damn drum circle tries to upset the karmanic balance of our little slice of paradise on the playa, those hippies will rue the day. I, after all, know a Ranger!

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:21 am

DrumTillYouBleed wrote:
(PS...the board HTML works great...not).
The smart figure it out and the courteous are cheerfully offered an explanation.

Assholes, deliberate assholes, are not so lucky.
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Post by DrumTillYouBleed » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:30 pm

[quote="Dr. Pyro"]For somebody's very first post, you certainly know how to piss a lot of people off.

Now that said, Barbie Death Camp isn't everyone's cup of tea I realize, but we have never intentionally gone out of our way to piss people off. If some damn drum circle tries to upset the karmanic balance of our little slice of paradise on the playa, those hippies will rue the day. I, after all, know a Ranger![/quote]

NIN! I've pissed off the internets.... What ever will I do with myself.

Read the little Burning Man survival manual. It mentions how to avoid loud noises....To paraphrase "WEAR EAR PLUGS"

Oh please please please make a complaint to a ranger that it is too loud. I'd love to see the look on their faces...and your faces when they say the same thing we told the Hushvillians. "You are at Burning Man...there is techno, generators, art cars and thousands of people making noise. If you do not like it, move out to the trash fence"

I am going to drum in BRC 2010. I am going to drum till my hands bleed. Bring ear plugs, move further out. Do whatever the hell you need to do to deal with it. But I suggest not camping next to Mallard if you do not like noise, heckling, screaming, partying, music, fun, shaved ice on hot days etc. etc.

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Post by DrumTillYouBleed » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:31 pm

[quote="theCryptofishist"][quote="DrumTillYouBleed"]

(PS...the board HTML works great...not).[/quote]
The smart figure it out and the courteous are cheerfully offered an explanation.

Assholes, deliberate assholes, are not so lucky.[/quote]

It's really ok...I'm not that worried about it

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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:35 pm

drumbum... enable your BBCode in your profile and your quotes will work. You can see this in your profile.

We're a placed village, we get the real estate we're given by the placers. We don't have to fucking move, WE are on the fucking MAP.

I'd not camp next to Root Society and expect to sleep nor would I ask them to tone it down. So why should literate people who can read a map and a village statement choose to camp next to a less than loud camp? Other than they're either stupid or assholes?

No one is Hushville wants others to stop what they're doing, but a little foresight about camping next to a slice of less noise would be appreciated. Not too hard to figure out when deciding where to head when the gates open.

Community is not packing out your trash when our own trailer is full.

Oh yeah, and I can't speak for all of Hushville, just myself. Speaking for myself, perhaps you're trying to be funny. If not, damn, you're downright mean. And an asshole.

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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:39 pm

Oh, and nice sock.

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Post by DrumTillYouBleed » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:01 pm

[quote="AntiM"]drumbum... enable your BBCode in your profile and your quotes will work. You can see this in your profile.

We're a placed village, we get the real estate we're given by the placers. We don't have to fucking move, WE are on the fucking MAP.

I'd not camp next to Root Society and expect to sleep nor would I ask them to tone it down. So why should literate people who can read a map and a village statement choose to camp next to a less than loud camp? Other than they're either stupid or assholes?

No one is Hushville wants others to stop what they're doing, but a little foresight about camping next to a slice of less noise would be appreciated. Not too hard to figure out when deciding where to head when the gates open.

Community is not packing out your trash when our own trailer is full.

Oh yeah, and I can't speak for all of Hushville, just myself. Speaking for myself, perhaps you're trying to be funny. If not, damn, you're downright mean. And an asshole.[/quote]

I am an asshole, and being sarcastic mostly. But tormenting hushville online is kinda fun nopw :)

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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:08 pm

Yeah, but the trouble is you're only tormenting me, and I abused my mod powers by checking your IP and now I know who is yanking my chain. Kinda takes the fun out of it, huh?

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Post by DrumTillYouBleed » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:12 pm

[quote="AntiM"]Yeah, but the trouble is you're only tormenting me, and I abused my mod powers by checking your IP and now I know who is yanking my chain. Kinda takes the fun out of it, huh?

Mission Crispy Duck. I like it :twisted:[/quote]


No....it doesn't. I've admitted to who I am. I was the guy drumming, I'm the guy on the top of the dome drumming in the picture posted above. But...errrr ok

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Post by winebuff » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:57 pm

AntiM wrote:Yeah, but the trouble is you're only tormenting me, and I abused my mod powers by checking your IP and now I know who is yanking my chain. Kinda takes the fun out of it, huh?

Mission Crispy Duck. I like it :twisted:
Hi AntiM
He is tormenting me too. Not a very nice person. Its funny how karma goes around. I think he needs a "time out" :)

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Post by AntiM » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:04 am

DrumTillYouBleed wrote:
AntiM wrote:Yeah, but the trouble is you're only tormenting me, and I abused my mod powers by checking your IP and now I know who is yanking my chain. Kinda takes the fun out of it, huh?

Mission Crispy Duck. I like it :twisted:

No....it doesn't. I've admitted to who I am. I was the guy drumming, I'm the guy on the top of the dome drumming in the picture posted above. But...errrr ok
Alrighty, if you say so.

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Post by timburly » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:37 am

WOW didn't mean to start this.

I was just poking some fun.

The Karma comment was directed towards myself as I was feeling like shit and wanted sleep but that art car pulled up and wrecked that.



AntiM, a number of people share this IP and I'm aware who it is..i'll calm him down he's just bitchy from the portland winters.

Sorry to offend and start a shit storm.

Love ya all, I did enjoy having the hushvillians that came over around
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Post by magicmarty » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:05 am

Thank you timburly. I was a neighbor and enjoyed the wonderful exuberance of your gang. Only one night at 4AM was I bothered by the drummng and spoke to the drummers and they (as I) were ultimately polite and sweet. The drumming stopped and that was that. Your words are most healling. Peace
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Post by ygmir » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:09 am

this does beg the question, though, in my little mind:

What is the karmatic equation, and, how does it balance, between folks assaulting, purposely, others, with sound and rudeness vs folks walking over and kicking holes in the drums, and, perhaps, pissing in thier tents?

I ask, because this confuses me, the right to be obnoxious vs the right to return obnoxiousness......

I would think, someone in that portland commune society up there could work this out for me........being the sort of slow fellow that I am.......


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Post by magicmarty » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:34 am

YG, I'm not a fan of violence. Most often, folks are not aware of the fact that they are infilcting pain or discomfort on others. We tend to see our actions in the light of our own small universe of experience. When confronted with someone else's values in a genuine manner of good will, we most often feel a sense of enlightenment and alter what we are doing to accomodate our fellow inhabitants in our then universe.

Kicking in drums would only exacerbate a situation and reinforce the belief amongst the "kickees" that the "kickers" are truly the assholes they felt them to be all along. When in reality, the "kiickers" are not really assholes before they elected to become "kickers", nor are the "kickees" the assholes they seem to have been. Witness timburly's post

No, for me its comunicate, communicate, communicate. It doesn't solve all of the problems (e.g. Hitler) but does solve most of them

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Post by ygmir » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:23 am

yes, Marty, I do understand, and agree.
I would most certainly have taken your tack........

What I was getting at, somewhat circuitously, is, in reading the dialog, it seems that certain folks, moved across from Hushville, purposely to disrupt.
(maybe for attention, or a power trip?).
They were approached, it seems, with respect, and, politeness.
This seemed to have done no good.

My quandary, is in, at what point, do you kick the drums in, if, at all?
I don't promote it. It just seems opportune, to, pose the query.

Now, it may be the aforementioned dialog has been in jest.
Well, cool, that's fun too.
It still doesn't change the issue, and, question, though.

How often, do we experience, folks doing something, specifically to piss off or get on someones nerves.........and, laughing, thinking it's funny.
(I'm sure it is funny, to them).
Well, at some point, it seems justified to put a stop to it.
The rules are set by the aggressor, IMHO.

Civility should, and, for the most part, does, rule.

I wonder, then: ("your" as follows is generic, not you specifically)
if someone parks in front of your camp, and, plays loud, obnoxious music, or whatever, for extended periods, and, you choose to spray their rig with water cannons and silly string, will they get pissed? and, if so, then what?
Is it not just as funny to see a bunch of soaking wet drummers, running and screaming trying to shade themselves and their drums from flying water and silly string?

I don't like confrontation, and, avoid it mostly.
I also don't like bully's, who, force their will on others.

seems a tough call, and, as such, I have sought enlightenment......

*hoping*
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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:08 am

timburly... thanks for the explanation, I thought that might be the case but wasn't positive. He does sound... stressed?

I don't think the intent was to mess with Hushville initially, but it can be hard to judge a group and after time, memories distort.

Ah... I have more to say but must run... interesting thoughts here.

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Post by magicmarty » Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:33 am

YG, The line from a lead song in "The King and I" applies

"Is a puzzlement!"
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Post by AntiM » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:01 am

For me, kicking in the drums was never an option. Oh, a temptation, as they were left unattended, but never an option.

But yeah, when someone chooses to annoy you ... on your "home turf", what is the appropriate response? Suck it up? Retaliate? At what point do you turn to the rangers? Do you turn to the rangers? What resolution do you seek and how do you seek it?

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