Obama and the Nobel Prize

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:58 am

Is anyone else extremely offended that Obama was low-class and dishonorable enough to accept the Nobel Peace Prize having done absolutely nothing to earn it?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:01 am

*raises hand*

Fire_Moose · Post by **Fire_Moose** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:56 am

Didn't he say that weapons of mass destruction were bad?

Sounds pretty peaceful...

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:26 am

it's just a joke, any more .... this year just demonstrated how silly it has become ....

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:43 am

I'm with Ygmir. The guy is a national embarrassment. He sucks. There's nothing "Nobel" about him at all.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:22 am

I would have accepted it, just for an opportunity to take the bully pulpit.

He would have lost points if he had turned it down; think of Marlon Brando at the Oscars.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:47 pm

It would have been a better speech if he had ended it with the "Shocka" hand gesture.

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:11 pm

ya mean 'shaka' - Hawaii style hello.

searock420 · Post by **searock420** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:19 pm

He's a politician
Of course he lied
WTF do u expect?
He said that the health care program would be on cspan
He said all would be transparent
The clown can't even keep unwanted guests out of the WH

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:19 pm

.

Acually, in this case, I meant "the shocker"

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:20 pm

.

to avoid any further confusion...

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:25 pm

*sigh* remember simpler times?

knowmad · Post by **knowmad** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:41 pm

Better Question is who was the Asshat that nominated him?

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:59 pm

*sigh* remember simpler times? (when your posts wouldn't disappear!)

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:26 am

not really,

I do remember times the whole eplaya would disappear though.

then come back in new and confusing formats.

the eplaya was better last format.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:22 am

I agree !!

Armand · Post by **Armand** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:17 pm

Direct quote from his acceptance speech:

"These times show, that sometimes, war is necessary, to maintain peace."

FAIL

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:09 pm

And regardless of what he actually says, is Obama not about the blandest, dullest speaker ever? Shit, even Bush was easier to listen to, even if he did learn how to say "nucular" from Jimmy Carter.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:25 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:And regardless of what he actually says, is Obama not about the blandest, dullest speaker ever? Shit, even Bush was easier to listen to, even if he did learn how to say "nucular" from Jimmy Carter.

depends.........he's pretty interesting when he doesn't have a teleprompter.......*chuckling*.........

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:53 pm

seriously? Bush was a better speaker? I guess I misunderestimated him.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:18 am

Fool me once....

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:42 am

Elorrum wrote:seriously? Bush was a better speaker? I guess I misunderestimated him.

"better" is, very subjective........and, CG said "easier to listen to".

both, valid, in the ear of the listener, IMHO......

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:09 am

subjective, certainly. I felt he was sort of like a jeapardy player who had buzzed in too early and was on the spot to come up with the next word. Kind of a lurching quality that made me uneasy. Obama pauses like he's looking through a huge spice drawer for a special word. He has a bigger spice drawer to draw on than Bush imho.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:36 am

Elorrum wrote:subjective, certainly. I felt he was sort of like a jeapardy player who had buzzed in too early and was on the spot to come up with the next word. Kind of a lurching quality that made me uneasy. Obama pauses like he's looking through a huge spice drawer for a special word. He has a bigger spice drawer to draw on than Bush imho.

yeah, maybe.........

I think the "looking in the spice drawer" is waiting for the teleprompter to scroll......What I've seen, the messiah is pretty awkward and halting without it.....and, prone to gafs......

not that any of us wouldn't be.

Both of them, had/have, arguably, a very difficult job in public speaking......knowing everyone is parsing every word, and nuance.....
It's gotta be daunting.

folks tend to like to label a person they don't like, or agree with, as "stupid" or whatever.......that, to me, is a mistake.......

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:44 am

I don't think they use a teleprompter for interviews or q and a.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:10 am

Elorrum wrote:I don't think they use a teleprompter for interviews or q and a.

I'd bet they get a lot of the questions ahead of time, for study.......

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:09 am

World-class acting coaches I am sure.

"Don't look too intelligent; you'll alienate 49% of the subnormal electorate."

knowmad · Post by **knowmad** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:02 pm

It reminds me of the Robbin Williams bit about Reagan being Disney's last wish "to build a president", but I honestly don't know who is better(more entertaining) in the public speaking arena, Obama or Bush II, on one hand Bush was great when he got that "little-redneck-just-heard-a-pecker-joke laugh going" but really annoying when he was trying to convince you the BS coming out of his mouth was really true. But You gotta hand it to Obama, his eyes say he's looking at you but you can see him reading the teleprompter and thinking "this is really my position on this?"
To sum it all up, Bush was entertaining cause we all knew the hand up his ass was Chennys', and the hand up Obamas ass seems to be his own.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:27 pm

ygmir wrote:
Elorrum wrote:seriously? Bush was a better speaker? I guess I misunderestimated him.
"better" is, very subjective........and, CG said "easier to listen to".

Thank you, that's exactly what I meant!

lbdavid98 · Post by **lbdavid98** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:47 am

I think it would have been more offensive to reject the award. Clearly it was an attempt by the committee to encourage Obama to use his position as president to take this country in a new direction. They understood their purpose, I'm sure Obama is smart enough to figure it out, so the only question is whether or not he'll live up to the honor--and it's a bit early to make that call in my opinion.

As for the failure of his logic, that sometimes war is a necessary component for achieving peace... let's take an analogous approach to considering the statement.

It's a small minority of people who would object to allowing law enforcement to carry firearms. When criminals reject the laws of the society they reside in, there's less reason for them to exercise restraint--especially when confronted with arrest. If police and citizens were unarmed then the only people with weapons would be the criminals, and do we have any doubt that they'd use them as a force for more destruction?

History has shown us that some people will confuse the ability to force people to do their will with the right to do so. If no one is willing to oppose them, then within the spheres of their control we allow genocide, degredation, and other atrocity.

Do I think it's our job to police the world? No more than it's our job to aid the people of Haiti. I think Americans see that they can do something, so they feel they ought to. Sometimes this has disastrous consequences, other times that energy can change the world for the better. I'd rather the UN make these decisions, but I do believe that sometimes they have to be made.