So uh, how do you describe Burning Man to people?
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"So uh, how do you describe Burning Man"
I dont know why I've spent so much time thinking about this question. Probally because it's a good question, and the only thing I've come up with is something that is not to generalize Burners .......... well maybe most.
Here goes;
To me IMVHO, Burningman is, Witty folks having a really witty time doing some pretty witty things with thier witty minds durring a witty time of the year at a very witty place in Nevada. Wittingly speaking of course.
I tried.
I dont know why I've spent so much time thinking about this question. Probally because it's a good question, and the only thing I've come up with is something that is not to generalize Burners .......... well maybe most.
Here goes;
To me IMVHO, Burningman is, Witty folks having a really witty time doing some pretty witty things with thier witty minds durring a witty time of the year at a very witty place in Nevada. Wittingly speaking of course.
I tried.
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The ones that I repeat depending on my impression of who is asking
a place where you can go psychotic and neither you nor anyone else will notice
Let’s put it this way, on Monday a green bunny with flashing red horns scampered up to me out of the darkness, kissed me and scampered away. On Monday that was ‘Holy shit, Wow’, by Wednesday it was 'What! no tongue?'
A neighbor came by one day; he said “You know; (long pause) you can see everything in the world here.” Long pause; “I just saw a naked midget go by on a motorized scooter”. Long pause; “Never saw a naked midget before.” And then he just wandered away.
a place where you can go psychotic and neither you nor anyone else will notice
Let’s put it this way, on Monday a green bunny with flashing red horns scampered up to me out of the darkness, kissed me and scampered away. On Monday that was ‘Holy shit, Wow’, by Wednesday it was 'What! no tongue?'
A neighbor came by one day; he said “You know; (long pause) you can see everything in the world here.” Long pause; “I just saw a naked midget go by on a motorized scooter”. Long pause; “Never saw a naked midget before.” And then he just wandered away.
My grandfather tried to raise me as a Southern gentleman, that means that I can be a real SOB some of the time.
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A drug-fueled, drunken orgy full of crazed hippies wearing glow-in-the-dark clothes and careerning around on motorized art platforms.
They burn a giant figure in effigy while worshipping his demise. Satanistic practices mixed with paganistic rites of mortification.
Oh, and bring your own water.
They burn a giant figure in effigy while worshipping his demise. Satanistic practices mixed with paganistic rites of mortification.
Oh, and bring your own water.
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the Frase Jenerator
digging into my archives, ive unearthed Black Rock Gazette volume 8, sunday sept 5, 1999
and while Piss Clear has by far been my favorite read on the playa over the years,
an anonymous chap developed a "phrase generator" for this BRG issue which gives you a swell ole time making up descriptions for bman if ya ever want a new slant on describing the beast
youve got four columns and 20 lines---so theoretically 160,000 combos
you can pick and choose, or of couse bust out the dusty isocahedric 20-sided die and roll away randomly
heres some examples--
BURNING MAN IS A:
crypto boho cyber freakfest
pyro psycho apocalyptic orgy
homo deadhead dada confab
meta erotic satanic powwow
intervisionary ecstatic mindmeld
antiarchaic nerdo narcissistic conspiracy
postdruidic postmodern preprimordial premenstral glyptoglyphic Om circle
etc etc
its fun...of course after a few runs through the phrase generator one starts spewing and morphing new and unorthodoxly quixotic combos
in fact --it time for an updating this year
black rock citizens--keep your eyes peeled--
and while Piss Clear has by far been my favorite read on the playa over the years,
an anonymous chap developed a "phrase generator" for this BRG issue which gives you a swell ole time making up descriptions for bman if ya ever want a new slant on describing the beast
youve got four columns and 20 lines---so theoretically 160,000 combos
you can pick and choose, or of couse bust out the dusty isocahedric 20-sided die and roll away randomly
heres some examples--
BURNING MAN IS A:
crypto boho cyber freakfest
pyro psycho apocalyptic orgy
homo deadhead dada confab
meta erotic satanic powwow
intervisionary ecstatic mindmeld
antiarchaic nerdo narcissistic conspiracy
postdruidic postmodern preprimordial premenstral glyptoglyphic Om circle
etc etc
its fun...of course after a few runs through the phrase generator one starts spewing and morphing new and unorthodoxly quixotic combos
in fact --it time for an updating this year
black rock citizens--keep your eyes peeled--
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Re: the Frase Jenerator
Here's a working version:P-Mobius wrote:digging into my archives, ive unearthed Black Rock Gazette volume 8, sunday sept 5, 1999
and while Piss Clear has by far been my favorite read on the playa over the years,
an anonymous chap developed a "phrase generator" for this BRG issue which gives you a swell ole time making up descriptions for bman if ya ever want a new slant on describing the beast
youve got four columns and 20 lines---so theoretically 160,000 combos
you can pick and choose, or of couse bust out the dusty isocahedric 20-sided die and roll away randomly
heres some examples--
BURNING MAN IS A:
crypto boho cyber freakfest
pyro psycho apocalyptic orgy
homo deadhead dada confab
meta erotic satanic powwow
intervisionary ecstatic mindmeld
antiarchaic nerdo narcissistic conspiracy
postdruidic postmodern preprimordial premenstral glyptoglyphic Om circle
etc etc
its fun...of course after a few runs through the phrase generator one starts spewing and morphing new and unorthodoxly quixotic combos
in fact --it time for an updating this year
black rock citizens--keep your eyes peeled--
http://www.burningman.com/press/myths.html#generator
I think Stuart Mangram is the originator (one of the pioneers of the BR Gazette).
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Uh, Why?DVD Burner wrote:"So uh, how do you describe Burning Man"
I dont know why I've spent so much time thinking about this question. Probally because it's a good question, and the only thing I've come up with is something that is not to generalize Burners .......... well maybe most.
One must go and seek out the prophets themselves.
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For co-workers and gym friends curious about vacation plans, its simply "I'm going to the Black Rock City Arts Festival!", said with much enthusiasm and as if everybody OF COURSE knows what that is. Occasionally somebody's eyes light up and I know there is one with whom I can share the secret wonders.
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Tell people about Burningman?
Why would you want to tell anyone about Burningman? Obviously if they don't know about it yet they don't need to. don't confuse them. Keep it a secret. We're doing fine without them.
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So far when dealing with most of my friends I've figured out that the Fight Club rules work well.
The first rule of Burning Man: You do not talk about Burning Man.
The second rule of Burning Man: You do not talk about Burning Man.
My wife still insists I'm going to Birmingham, and then asks me why I'm going.
My response, as it always has been in such situations, is simply: It's something I want to do at least once. I've followed this board since about '97.
When people ask me I tell them: It's like a giant McDonald's playground filled with the oddest sort of art and behavior imaginable. They'll even let you supsersize your happymeal.
Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about as this will be my first trip home.
The first rule of Burning Man: You do not talk about Burning Man.
The second rule of Burning Man: You do not talk about Burning Man.
My wife still insists I'm going to Birmingham, and then asks me why I'm going.
My response, as it always has been in such situations, is simply: It's something I want to do at least once. I've followed this board since about '97.
When people ask me I tell them: It's like a giant McDonald's playground filled with the oddest sort of art and behavior imaginable. They'll even let you supsersize your happymeal.
Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about as this will be my first trip home.
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What is Burning Man to me?
What is...What it was...What it shall be...
Burning Man is a 29-hour a day party for a week...
It is about looking at your 'Box' and deciding if it must remain a Square.
It has shown me that building 'Community' takes effort, shared effort...
...bringing multitudes of people together from divergent parts of the Globe and creating a shared safe space to learn and grow together
The Playa is about discovery of self...
...The discovery of those we just met or those we have known for a lifetime
Only 94 Days till we BURN!!!!
Scotto
Burning Man is a 29-hour a day party for a week...
It is about looking at your 'Box' and deciding if it must remain a Square.
It has shown me that building 'Community' takes effort, shared effort...
...bringing multitudes of people together from divergent parts of the Globe and creating a shared safe space to learn and grow together
The Playa is about discovery of self...
...The discovery of those we just met or those we have known for a lifetime
Only 94 Days till we BURN!!!!
Scotto
Burning Man is a Participatory Sport! Lead by Example!
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bit cryptic, but a fave image
I like to say: "it's Nevada's fifth-largest city -- and it exists for only one week a year."
Usually that comes somewhere after mentions of flame cannons, nudity, art car, Kabuki Bondage Theatre, website referrals, etc.
But yeah, it's just a fucking camping trip is always a good one.
Usually that comes somewhere after mentions of flame cannons, nudity, art car, Kabuki Bondage Theatre, website referrals, etc.
But yeah, it's just a fucking camping trip is always a good one.
... it's just a fucking camping trip!
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I asked a friend about going the other day. She said, "Isn't that a bunch of naked people and orgies? Why would I want to pay that much to see that?" I said, "Well there's that, plus there's a bunch of participatory art and dancing, and there's no commerce at all, except for buying ice and coffee." So now she wants to come.
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No one had to describe much to me to get me interested. I'd already been all over the rest of the western desert, friends of mine had gone for a few years, and eventually they tricked me into helping them do a little plumbing.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
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"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
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As for describing it to "people" -- the less said, the better.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
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Jeez I hate to say this but seems you and I have something in common there.Bob wrote:No one had to describe much to me to get me interested. I'd already been all over the rest of the western desert, friends of mine had gone for a few years, and eventually they tricked me into helping them do a little plumbing.
I got tricked into doing sound my first time to the BRC. ( and I got paid to go. That included hotel and travel.)
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Yep, bet it was the nakedness and orgies that really interested her, but paying to see "ART" now that's classy and so socially acceptable!sparkletarte wrote:I asked a friend about going the other day. She said, "Isn't that a bunch of naked people and orgies? Why would I want to pay that much to see that?" I said, "Well there's that, plus there's a bunch of participatory art and dancing, and there's no commerce at all, except for buying ice and coffee." So now she wants to come.
Better let her see this first and if she still wants to come, she BM's kind of art lover: http://www.modernpirate.com/burn.html
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I have to avoid reading very much of all this because of a bad eye disorder, but after pages one and four, I wonder, is there any great or worthwhile experience that can't possibly be described by anybody? Not even partially? I'd also say that no great experience can be reduced down to just words, but there ought to be someplace inbetween.
I ask because I came here to try to connect with people despite my not being able to go to BM. My body systems, especially my nervous system, are on a hair-trigger, and react severely to most of the world, but mainly light and petrochemical-based substances. This sort of thing isolates you, so I feed various words into search engines hoping to find groups to connect with... the main trouble has been that I can't come up with any words that describe what I'm looking for. Lately I've tried "Burning Man", "surrealism", and "SubGenius".
I don't know what else to say. I have to start posting here, but can't find a proper entry point. I can't comment on most of the specific things people bring up about this or that thing that happened at BM.
I came to this section hoping for discussion of the meaning of it... that doesn't seem to be what the threads are about though. It all has to mean something, right? And we have this very flexible, useful English language that can reach toward some very difficult-to-characterize experiences.
It's not the same old dreamy, pretentious, empty, New Age-y type of thing, is it, where people feel good about themselves by believing in pre-packaged "meaning", which doesn't really result in real, human , original thoughts or feelings about themselves, or the world?
If it's just a party, that's good. I'd just sort of like to know.
I ask because I came here to try to connect with people despite my not being able to go to BM. My body systems, especially my nervous system, are on a hair-trigger, and react severely to most of the world, but mainly light and petrochemical-based substances. This sort of thing isolates you, so I feed various words into search engines hoping to find groups to connect with... the main trouble has been that I can't come up with any words that describe what I'm looking for. Lately I've tried "Burning Man", "surrealism", and "SubGenius".
I don't know what else to say. I have to start posting here, but can't find a proper entry point. I can't comment on most of the specific things people bring up about this or that thing that happened at BM.
I came to this section hoping for discussion of the meaning of it... that doesn't seem to be what the threads are about though. It all has to mean something, right? And we have this very flexible, useful English language that can reach toward some very difficult-to-characterize experiences.
It's not the same old dreamy, pretentious, empty, New Age-y type of thing, is it, where people feel good about themselves by believing in pre-packaged "meaning", which doesn't really result in real, human , original thoughts or feelings about themselves, or the world?
If it's just a party, that's good. I'd just sort of like to know.
it is really plastic. There are so many varieties of experience there that it is quite troubling to ask one person, or even twenty, in order to get a feel. It is potential. It is chaotic. It is what you make it, no really. It is also a huge party, unless of course you have lots of work to do while there. Then it is a huge work party. Some call that angle 'working man'.
if you can't make the event, for whatever reason, but are still interested in the community, try to connect with burners in your area. We are legion.
if you can't make the event, for whatever reason, but are still interested in the community, try to connect with burners in your area. We are legion.
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........No, I mean alone....as in, You Leave......
"Describing Burning Man to Someone."
Good Luck!
mr.
Good Luck!
mr.
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stuart, et al--- 'plastic' as in 'flexible' I guess rather than empty and fake?
If you take a few hundred steps back and view the whole thing at one time, there must in the vaguest sense be something that all the various experiences of BM have in common.
I mean, I'm sure you can throw around a few adjectives about what it definitely isn't, so it isn't all totally random and chaotic, so there should be words for what it is. It's not conformist I would guess, it's not... hell I don't know. Worth trying to figure out, sounds like.
If you take a few hundred steps back and view the whole thing at one time, there must in the vaguest sense be something that all the various experiences of BM have in common.
I mean, I'm sure you can throw around a few adjectives about what it definitely isn't, so it isn't all totally random and chaotic, so there should be words for what it is. It's not conformist I would guess, it's not... hell I don't know. Worth trying to figure out, sounds like.