Is a bike lock enough?
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CannotWait
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Is a bike lock enough?
So I've read a bunch of bike threads, and everyone seems to suggest using a lock.
Is there a HIGH likelihood of having your bike stolen, or is it just an advisable precaution? Like, if I don't have a lock (which I will), will it be stolen almost for sure? That would be kind of a bummer. I thought BM attracted more of the non-thieving types.
Assuming I'll be using a lock, is that good enough? Are there bike thieves popping off locks on the Playa?
Also, what kind of structures can you secure your bike to, or do you just rely on locking the wheels so it can't roll?
Is there a HIGH likelihood of having your bike stolen, or is it just an advisable precaution? Like, if I don't have a lock (which I will), will it be stolen almost for sure? That would be kind of a bummer. I thought BM attracted more of the non-thieving types.
Assuming I'll be using a lock, is that good enough? Are there bike thieves popping off locks on the Playa?
Also, what kind of structures can you secure your bike to, or do you just rely on locking the wheels so it can't roll?
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I don't think people would go through the effort to break a lock on a bike. It's more like they're under the influence, and borrow your bike to get to their next destination, then leave it who knows where. 
I just locked one of my wheels to the frame, so it was unrideable, and nobody messed with it. Back in camp, I locked it to my truck while I was asleep.
I just locked one of my wheels to the frame, so it was unrideable, and nobody messed with it. Back in camp, I locked it to my truck while I was asleep.
Often, a zip-tie is enough. Or a well-placed bungee cord.
Think really really smashed person wandering out of a dance camp at 0:dark:30, who thinks (despite the custom fur, blinky lights, faux leopardskin, and ape hanger handlebars) they're grabbing their own bike, but picks yours instead - you just need enough so they go "hey, wait, dude, this isn't my bike! Woweee, what a trip!!!"
Get a cheap lock that you can remember the combination to when you're smashed and wandering out of a dance camp (etc etc).
But do make the effort to make your bike unique and fabulous.
Think really really smashed person wandering out of a dance camp at 0:dark:30, who thinks (despite the custom fur, blinky lights, faux leopardskin, and ape hanger handlebars) they're grabbing their own bike, but picks yours instead - you just need enough so they go "hey, wait, dude, this isn't my bike! Woweee, what a trip!!!"
Get a cheap lock that you can remember the combination to when you're smashed and wandering out of a dance camp (etc etc).
But do make the effort to make your bike unique and fabulous.
What goes around, comes around.
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Lock your bike when you can't see it, and use an easy to use lock so you'll be sure to use it. I'm not sure someone would take it but it is an easy thing to lock it, I do it at home with my good bike, and it would really be a drag to lose the bike and have to walk. Or use the yellow bikes.
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This is what a few in our camp do.. ez-on---ez-offjustfred wrote:Often, a zip-tie is enough. Or a well-placed bungee cord.
But do make the effort to make your bike unique and fabulous.
My 3rd year I was mOOping and a young punk kid took off my decorations and rode off.. I yell and he came back.. Told me that he was thinking about buying a bike like mine and just wanted to try it out... Yea right you little fucker...
Plus with the bungee you just might get to see the smuck get tossed over the handle bars....
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the following is not as much advice as it is primarily anecdotal..
last year (my first time), my camp brought four bikes with us. most of us didn't have locks. all of our bikes remained untouched until friday, when all four bikes disappeared individually. mine was stolen from root society around sunrise, two others were stolen from our camp (just off the outer center-camp ring road, evolution), and another was stolen somewhere in the 9:00 plaza area.
i get the impression that the community becomes less trustworthy around friday, at which time the last of the city's population arrives. my theory is that, having just arrived to catch the "main event" (burn night), these stragglers show up with less personal investment and/or interest in maintaining honest and supportive community vibes, and bring with them more of a "hey, cool, some giant desert party where everything is free.." vibe.
granted i'm speaking without a plethora of experience, and admittedly making broad assumptions and generalizing, but i feel as though the community becomes a bit diluted as the weekend unfolds.
my point, if there is one, is that i'd recommend locking your bike up throughout the event. personally, i believe it's most at risk toward the end of the week, but i'd lock it the whole time.. and yes, a lock will certainly be enough. no one in black rock is bothering with busting locks. (i don't think so, anyway)
bikes are also at higher risk of theft along the esplanade and at the major rave camps.
last year (my first time), my camp brought four bikes with us. most of us didn't have locks. all of our bikes remained untouched until friday, when all four bikes disappeared individually. mine was stolen from root society around sunrise, two others were stolen from our camp (just off the outer center-camp ring road, evolution), and another was stolen somewhere in the 9:00 plaza area.
i get the impression that the community becomes less trustworthy around friday, at which time the last of the city's population arrives. my theory is that, having just arrived to catch the "main event" (burn night), these stragglers show up with less personal investment and/or interest in maintaining honest and supportive community vibes, and bring with them more of a "hey, cool, some giant desert party where everything is free.." vibe.
granted i'm speaking without a plethora of experience, and admittedly making broad assumptions and generalizing, but i feel as though the community becomes a bit diluted as the weekend unfolds.
my point, if there is one, is that i'd recommend locking your bike up throughout the event. personally, i believe it's most at risk toward the end of the week, but i'd lock it the whole time.. and yes, a lock will certainly be enough. no one in black rock is bothering with busting locks. (i don't think so, anyway)
bikes are also at higher risk of theft along the esplanade and at the major rave camps.
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Why steal bikes on the last day?
Ironically on the last day folks leave their bike in piles at the mouth of the spokes to give away. There are more bikes than the donation people can handle. I know people who take home a few extra when they leave on Tuesday or Wednesdays for next year.
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Why steal bikes on the last day?
Ironically on the last day folks leave their bike in piles at the mouth of the spokes to give away. There are more bikes than the donation people can handle. I know people who take home a few extra when they leave on Tuesday or Wednesdays for next year.
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I never locked my bike, in camp or on the Esplanade.
I heard tell from a ranger or two that someone, just for fun, was going around with a bolt cutter (or whatever) randomly cutting locks.
Some camps have bike thingies just for you to lock onto. Others, just hit the kickstand and go in.
Oh, you know what? I take that back. A couple of times I did lock my bike. To the bikes of the people I was with.
I never locked my bike, in camp or on the Esplanade.
I heard tell from a ranger or two that someone, just for fun, was going around with a bolt cutter (or whatever) randomly cutting locks.
Some camps have bike thingies just for you to lock onto. Others, just hit the kickstand and go in.
Oh, you know what? I take that back. A couple of times I did lock my bike. To the bikes of the people I was with.
Oh, and put your default world name, address, contact info - and your playa-name and playa-address somewhere prominent. Maybe you thought you parked it over there - ooh, blinky shiny stuff - where the hell did my bike go, someone must have stolen it.
I spent a couple hours last year returning a camera to someone based solely on photos of the camp that were on the camera.
I spent a couple hours last year returning a camera to someone based solely on photos of the camp that were on the camera.
What goes around, comes around.
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That would be so cool, to hang around for afterwards. I've always enjoyed, at burns, being first to arrive and last to leave. Rarely is burn night ever the best night.ygmir wrote:we went out Wed. after the burn, to get the stage and bring it home.
There were still hundreds of bikes, scattered all over, single and in piles.......
many, at a glance, seemed nice.
I'm sure each has a story............
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Dear Geospydergeospyder wrote:Dear Abby,
I brought a lock last year where the combo was my age so I could remember it. Now that I'm year older can I use the same lock?
Since your age is apparently in the 3 digets, you shouldn't be riding a bike, or even attending burning man.
So happy to help,
Abby
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Hey Abby,
I figured I'd have a couple too many and would be seeing double. The combo was four digits - 2121 - yeah - don't I wish. Well then maybe not. That was too young and naive. Many years have been added since then and I'm still naive.
I figured I'd have a couple too many and would be seeing double. The combo was four digits - 2121 - yeah - don't I wish. Well then maybe not. That was too young and naive. Many years have been added since then and I'm still naive.
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I have stayed late. The piles of bikes and other moop really saddened me but I got over it. Riding around in a hot tub and splashing water on burners was really fun. Watching the on fire piano get hurled out on to the playa was fantastic. Good times....but only stay late if you have a job to do.C.f.M. wrote:That would be so cool, to hang around for afterwards. I've always enjoyed, at burns, being first to arrive and last to leave. Rarely is burn night ever the best night.ygmir wrote:we went out Wed. after the burn, to get the stage and bring it home.
There were still hundreds of bikes, scattered all over, single and in piles.......
many, at a glance, seemed nice.
I'm sure each has a story............
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IF you're bike is highly decorated, 90% chance it will not get stolen.
IF you're bike is some $20 craigslist mountain bike with absolutely nothing changed, 50% chance it will get stolen without a lock.
IF you're bike is locked, you are 100% safe.
IF you do not worry at ALL about your bike being stolen, you are 100% safe, locked or unlocked, decorated or not.
I've gone two years so far without locking my bike. It's a plain vintage 70's women's 3-speed dutch style bicycle I bought for $25. No decorations, no fancy lights, just a front basket, a blinky light, and a mount for an umbrella. I even leave my backpack in the basket with random stuff I need at night. It's never gotten stolen. I've left it overnight by an art piece in the middle of the playa overnight, and gotten it the next afternoon. I never worried about it, ever.
My brother on the other hand, has a bike pretty much identical to mine, and he worries like mad. His bike's been stolen once, and his backpack stolen once each of the two years.
So don't worry about it and enjoy yourself.
IF you're bike is some $20 craigslist mountain bike with absolutely nothing changed, 50% chance it will get stolen without a lock.
IF you're bike is locked, you are 100% safe.
IF you do not worry at ALL about your bike being stolen, you are 100% safe, locked or unlocked, decorated or not.
I've gone two years so far without locking my bike. It's a plain vintage 70's women's 3-speed dutch style bicycle I bought for $25. No decorations, no fancy lights, just a front basket, a blinky light, and a mount for an umbrella. I even leave my backpack in the basket with random stuff I need at night. It's never gotten stolen. I've left it overnight by an art piece in the middle of the playa overnight, and gotten it the next afternoon. I never worried about it, ever.
My brother on the other hand, has a bike pretty much identical to mine, and he worries like mad. His bike's been stolen once, and his backpack stolen once each of the two years.
So don't worry about it and enjoy yourself.
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The number of bikes found abandoned each year more than fills a couple of forty yard dumpsters.
What you're creating by not locking your bike is trash in a wilderness area.
What you're creating by not locking your bike is trash in a wilderness area.
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true that. i showed up with a neon green mountain bike (not realizing "yellow" bikes are actually green), and it disappeared near a pickled egg/census camp. i wandered around trying to find my bike, understanding what had happened. showed up at the same spot about two hours later and my bike had been returned.gyre wrote:And if you paint your bike green, don't leave it unlocked.
i assume the person who took it noticed the headlight and the lock around the seat post and was nice enough to bring it back. after that, i painted purple stripes on the fucker. the stripes kept it safe till friday.
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