C.f.M. wrote:They're pretty dust-proof - if you keep the walls tacked down (so the dust doesn't blow in from under the walls) and the front door secured. Close it up tight when you leave to wander.
Though pointless in a pro-canvas thread, here is why I don't want one:
http://obitch.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/ ... vas-tents/
In every post I make about tents, I talk about suffocating. There’s no windows for air flow.
I have a 10x10 and a 10x14 Kodiak. Both have 4 large windows opposite of each other and ridge vents.
They’re too heavy and big. I know people that camp in one (on the playa and other regionals). It’s a bear to fold up and takes up a lot of space. And is heavy. Too heavy for me.
Your source has made a fatal error and started lumping Springbar and Kodiak tents in with SCA and other historical style canvas pavilions and structures.
I can set up my 10x14 by myself in under 20 minutes. Longest part of the job is putting the stakes in. Tent comes down, rolled and in it's bag in about 10 minutes. Again, the longest part of the job is the ground stakes. Poles are segmented and chained and the longest section is maybe 3 feet or so.
In comparison to a heavy period pavilion as pictured in your link, the Kodiaks and Springbars weigh a lot less.
On the playa, to keep dust out as much as possible you have to keep the doors closed. So it’s a little dark and claustrophic for me. The walls are great, keeps dust and wind out like a charm, but not any more so that the nylon walls on my dome.
You have to keep the doors closed on any structure to keep the dust out on the playa. Not sure what point is trying to be made here. If you get claustrophobic in a 10x10 or 10x14 space with a 6'6" ceiling, your issue is not with the tent and more about needing anxiety meds.
…that’s about it. Plus, they’re expensive and I couldn’t set it up by myself. I need something lightweight, easily transported and easy for me (short and mechanically uninclined) to set up by myself.
Set up has already been covered. One person job, if you can drive a stake, you can set up a Kodiak or Springbar tent. And again, they are very easy to transport as they pack into a relatively small, rolled and handled bundle.
The period style structures your link is confusing Kodiaks and Springbars with are heavy, bulky with big wooden poles and ridge supports.
And yes, there is some expense in buying one of these, but if taken care of, they will last for decades. Why do you think the military is still using Vietnam Era canvas tents? Because they last forever.
IE, my EZ Up!
Without lots of re-enforcing, the EZ up is potential toast on the first day.
Add the side walls and you just made an excellent sail and have a structure that allows dust to happily blow right on in to your living space as the walls do not seal. My experience in the Kodiak tents shows that the only dust in our tents came off of us.
Fits great in the backseat for stacking, super easy to carry and pack up. Stores easily in a closet (just stand it up in the back corner). It looks bigger in that picture than it is.
Same for a Kodiak or Springbar.
but another thing I don’t like is a bunch of guy lines poking out everywhere.
Again, fatal error of confusing heavy canvas period pavilions and military style tents with Kodiak or Springbar. The only guidelines for Kodiak or Springbar are for the deploying door canopy which would be a useless and unneeded gesture on the Playa anyway.
I could just make my own…now, where did I put the number for that blacksmith??
Again, the author shows a clear ignorance in what they are talking about.
