Birgins looking for fellow sex positive campers

[Fire_Moose]

Just spoon feed him everything he needs to know why dont cha?


PolyParadise is run by great people, friends of mine who seriously, go ALL out to make a great camp

[Ugly Dougly]

Camel spiders are drawn to the sounds of moaning and the smell of bodily fluids.

[C.f.M.]

Camel spiders are drawn to the sounds of moaning and the smell of bodily fluids.

...new playa name.

[changoloco]

As someone that has been with the same woman for years, I have to say that most swinger couples are people that are not satisfied with what their relationship gives to them. People that love each other and are satisfied don't go looking for other people to bone down with. "Open" relationships ALWAYS end badly. With that being said, just go to the playa and the playa will provide what you are looking for. If you can't find it then it was not meant to be. I know this sounds a little hippie-dippie but, it is the absolute truth. "If you can't be with the one you love, honey, Love the one you're with!"

[C.f.M.]

As someone that has been with the same woman for years, I have to say that most swinger couples are people that are not satisfied with what their relationship gives to them. People that love each other and are satisfied don't go looking for other people to bone down with. "Open" relationships ALWAYS end badly. With that being said, just go to the playa and the playa will provide what you are looking for. If you can't find it then it was not meant to be. I know this sounds a little hippie-dippie but, it is the absolute truth. "If you can't be with the one you love, honey, Love the one you're with!"

"Swinger" couples aren't the same as polyamorous relationships, which come in any manner of gender, numbers, "rules" and mutual boundaries, etc. - are not necessarily the same as an "open" relationship.

Saying open relationships "ALWAYS" end badly is just pure nonsense, and I certainly know plenty of people who have been in "open" arrangements for decades who would join in my laughter.

Furthermore, your little quote there at the end simply proves the point you're trying to argue against.

If you can't be with the one you love, then love the one you're with.

ETA: For the record, I've yet to be poly/open, it was just common sense, personal experience, human history and some science that leads me to see how that post is full of wrong.

[theCryptofishist]

"Open" relationships ALWAYS end badly.

Cites?

[Ugly Dougly]

It's well documented that a monogamous person who mates up with a "free spirit" will meet with heartbreak.

[C.f.M.]

It's well documented that a monogamous person who mates up with a "free spirit" will meet with heartbreak.

Gee, really? Two people with antithetical core ideologies/belief systems usually don't end up happily ever after?

Whooda thunk?

Who's to say the "free spirit" doesn't also suffer heartache, for the same reason of losing someone they care deeply for/love?

Not I.

[much2naughty2]

The Human Carcass Wash sounds like a great way to get the dust off, and maybe a hair wash too and a great gift. My gift will be massage for those who want one.

Although I'm not licensed, I've been doing massages for several years and found it to be a great gift. My wife got me started getting massages because of a bad back, by giving me a gift certificate, Much more effective than Dr visits and pills. I thought if it was such a great gift for me, maybe others would appreciate it as well.

geospyder, a lot of people are afraid of nudity, I suppose it implies maybe a sexual encounter or maybe a poor self body image, who knows. That's one of the great gift we got as a result of being nudists for 20+ years. Body acceptance for us was a big benifit. Not being ashamed or embarrased by your own body. It is what it is. Reading their site, they'll wash as much or as little as you "bare". It takes a lot of trust to allow others to touch you, even in a non-sexual way.

AntiM, thanks for the link to rcycling water. I LMAO and almost fell in the floor. Scrape the recycling idea, I was going to bring a couple 100 gallons of water anyway. Sounds like plenty.

C.f.M. There are a few Poly folks in the "lifestyle" but for the most part, the folks I've know have more of a poly-monogamous lifestyle. We definately want to stop by and say hi to them and learn more. thanks.

changoloco, I have to disagree with you. I would guess you've known few if any lifestyle couples. A lot of us are products of the 60-70, that either miss or missed out on them. There are a lot of committed middle aged people (40-60) that are very happy in thier marriages, and I bet their marriage failure has more to do with drugs, money, jobs, carreers, kids, than liestyle. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong.

[changoloco]

"Open" relationships ALWAYS end badly.

Cites?

I can cite the countless number of Burner couples that I have met over the last 13 years on the playa. I myself have tried these kinds of situations and they have ended badly. So, maybe, speaking in absolutes was wrong. I should have said, "In my experience, open relationships ALWAYS end badly." The meaning behind this is that I have never, ever seen one work. I do apologize for speaking in absolutes. I am against absolutes.

[changoloco]

changoloco, I have to disagree with you. I would guess you've known few if any lifestyle couples. A lot of us are products of the 60-70, that either miss or missed out on them. There are a lot of committed middle aged people (40-60) that are very happy in thier marriages, and I bet their marriage failure has more to do with drugs, money, jobs, carreers, kids, than liestyle. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong.

I would guess that you have guessed wrong, son. I have been going to Burning Man since 1997. Do you really think that in all that time that I have never met any "lifestyle" couples? When you "ASSUME" you make an ASS out of U and ME.

[Gage]

We miss joining in on the eplaya fun, and this was a perfect topic to jump into...

Plan on: Survival needs, camp needs, outfits, transportation, lighting, any misc fun things, (if you're bringing a SO, discuss what each other limits are and stick to them when you are there), and plan on any/all other plans you think you're going to make falling through.

Everything else is random. Random people crossing your path. Random places you stroll into. Random events happen randomly. Random things coming and going. Timed events and meetings not happening and events and meetings put together on the fly. Finding someone specific that's not camping with you is a miracle. And as long as you stay true to who you are and what you're looking for, you will find it or it will find you. Or maybe not. Or yes.

That's what makes Burning Man such an incredible experience - A city of randomness and adventure around every turn. That, and watching 1st timers go through the transformation from expectations into realizations + creations for burn #2.

Love you guys/gals! Only 199 days until the gates of Evolution 2010 open!! woOhOo!!

[Ugly Dougly]

It's well documented that a monogamous person who mates up with a "free spirit" will meet with heartbreak.

Gee, really? Two people with antithetical core ideologies/belief systems usually don't end up happily ever after?

Whooda thunk?

Who's to say the "free spirit" doesn't also suffer heartache, for the same reason of losing someone they care deeply for/love?

Not I.

It must be nice to have a back-up.

[Trishntek]

Changoloco said:

I do apologize for speaking in absolutes. I am against absolutes.

Are you absolutely sure about that?

[ozwald8804]

Hi much2naughty

I am sorry for all the diatribe that met your initial question. I can see that you have done a lot of reading and already have answers to the usual mundane issues like self reliance and desert survival. And it is good to see that you are getting some good advice too. Funny, if you had asked about gay friendly camps you would have got a much nicer response. (case in point, the Gay Friendly Camps post in the same forum).

What I can add to the useful info that you have already got:
And Then There's Only Love camp (ATTOL), set up a nice sex friendly space where you can go on your own, or may meet up with like minded people.

Human Carcass Wash - a very fun experience, to be tried at least once. Or everyday if you want to. Fun human contact. But a sponge bath or a camp shower is just as good for a mid week clean up.

We are Strange and Charm, the Quarks, and we camp in Hushville. Then we are free to wander anywhere in BRC, and experience what the wind brings us too. As others have said here.. don't plan it, experience it.

StrangeQuark

[much2naughty2]

Thanks Strange. Maybe we can find you in Hushville and stop by to say hey.

We have gotten a lot of good responses, also a ton of great info of the website. As it turns out, my concerns were moot. We were looking for somewhere we wouldn't offend anyone with our behavior, but as weird as we are we should remain un-noticed and invisable amid the BM hoards. I can't wait.

Watching BM events on Youtube is like selecting rides at Disneyland. To little time and to many rides. Wander wander wander........ Now where did I park my bike? Any good ideas on bike tracking after a night out?

[Roberto Dobbisano]

horribly, terribly, wretchedly, Doomed.


welcome home, suckers.

[j_cavera]

We are Strange and Charm, the Quarks, and we camp in Hushville. Then we are free to wander anywhere in BRC, and experience what the wind brings us too. As others have said here.. don't plan it, experience it.

So when you're together, you're a Ds-meson?

Sorry. Physics humor.

- Jim

[Captain Goddammit]

Any good ideas on bike tracking after a night out?

Don't lose it in the first place! Finding lost bikes at BM does happen... but more often it doesn't. When I used to ride bikes at BM I went as far as bringing a spare. They're super cheap or free at home, valuable on the playa! If you don't need your spare, one of your friends will.
But then, I was a bike-repair-shop camp guy, so I tended to think like that.

[ozwald8804]

We are Strange and Charm, the Quarks, and we camp in Hushville. Then we are free to wander anywhere in BRC, and experience what the wind brings us too. As others have said here.. don't plan it, experience it.

So when you're together, you're a Ds-meson?

Sorry. Physics humor.

- Jim

Ds Meson, yes at times we spin that way.

[AntiM]

Any good ideas on bike tracking after a night out?

Don't lose it in the first place! Finding lost bikes at BM does happen... but more often it doesn't. When I used to ride bikes at BM I went as far as bringing a spare. They're super cheap or free at home, valuable on the playa! If you don't need your spare, one of your friends will.
But then, I was a bike-repair-shop camp guy, so I tended to think like that.

Luggage tags with your camp location on them might help them return to camp if you can't find them and a kind person decides to take it back for you. Might even make it to playa info lost and found. But night playa and day playa are so different... and the landmarks can move!

Do bring bike locks because your bike may wander off.

If you have your car keys anywhere but safely locked up in camp, attach a small tag with your info on it. You'd be amazed at the amount of lost keys!

I stick address labels on everything I might lose and might want back at some point. I also print up playa address cards and tuck them into every pocket and pack. I too camp in Hushville, so I know my playa address beforehand.

[geospyder]

Sent the link for the Human Carcass Wash to my brother-in-law in the Netherlands. This will be his virgin year. Here is what I sent...

"I’m curious if I have the nerve to do the Human Carcass Wash. I plan to do it but I may chicken out at the last minute."

I love his response...

"Yes, you have the power to do the HUMAN CARCASS, let scrub the noble parts and after then the chicken(party) in the last minute."

Chicken party? Sounds kinky.

[Fire_Moose]

I know they do trashcan turkey....but chicken party?

[Ugly Dougly]

We are Strange and Charm, the Quarks, and we camp in Hushville. Then we are free to wander anywhere in BRC, and experience what the wind brings us too. As others have said here.. don't plan it, experience it.

So when you're together, you're a Ds-meson?

Sorry. Physics humor.

- Jim

Ds Meson, yes at times we spin that way.

Cockwise or countercockwise?

[retropsycho]

"how we keep from getting camped next to the mormon temple or million watt music camp", and yes we love music, but we're bringing lots of ear plug in any case.

http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... n_brc.html

"We are a family friendly event. We encourage everyone to know where the kids camp, named 'Kidsville', is located on the map. If you are not a family friendly camp, please place yourself far away from it. If you are a family camp yourself, consider camping between 5:00 and 5:30.

...Although when we told the Kidsville campers where adult camp were concentrating one year, they said "Thanks! Now we know where to go!" (w/o the kiddies, presumably). Adult camps are to post folks at the entrances to keep kids from wandering in. BTW, there is no intentional red light district. Or maybe 2:00 to 5:00, and 5:30 to 10:00 is the adult zone?

re: Loud music - it's everywhere, but especially at the Large Scale Sound Art areas @ 2:00 & 10:00, then near the Esplanade. Center Camp is quieter at night.

My question would be similar to someone who would want to know what part of the camp is 4:20 friendly.

I know that was just an example, but just in case: be aware that the drug laws in NV are stricter than elsewhere. Open display of 4:20 friendly behavior is unwise. http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... ement.html

Playa bathing tip: http://www.norinse.com/

Lost bike return efforts don't start until the end of the event on Memorial Day, and it hasn't happened at Playa Info for the last couple of years. (The Green Bike community bike folks have been doing from their camp). Lock your bike every time. Lock your bike every time. Lock your bike every time.

Put your contact info on all valuables, esp cameras, keys, bikes, backpacks. Nice to be able to return stuff when it's turned in.

[AntiM]

One year there was a replica Mormon Temple built by ex-mos. I wish I could find a picture! Anyone?

[retropsycho]

Got the Angel Moroni in 2008 http://tinyurl.com/y8z2jva

[AntiM]

Nice! I didn't grab a pic myself, but I am certain it was pre-2004. Not 2003 which would have made sense.

[trystanthegypsy]

You would enjoy Poly Paradise, home of the human carcass wash. Good people, I camped there last year.

[Roberto Dobbisano]

unless you are a misanthropic never-nude, such as myself, in which case it's worse than Newark in a Brown-Out.