It's possible a group buy can be arranged.
These are rejects for quality reasons.
Prices would range from cheap to cheap cheap, compared to retail.
Anyone For Reflectix Seconds?
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Homiesinheaven
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Full rolls.
Not much scrim at the moment.
Primary defect seems to be some separation and edge damage.
What you might expect.
Rolls range up to commercial lengths, about double retail size.
Shipping is the biggest cost.
Any group buy can save a huge amount because of this.
I don't have pictures of the exact material now.
Might be able to get them.
http://www.reflectixinc.com/basepage.as ... eIndex=622
Not much scrim at the moment.
Primary defect seems to be some separation and edge damage.
What you might expect.
Rolls range up to commercial lengths, about double retail size.
Shipping is the biggest cost.
Any group buy can save a huge amount because of this.
I don't have pictures of the exact material now.
Might be able to get them.
http://www.reflectixinc.com/basepage.as ... eIndex=622
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ygmir
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so,
are you saying you want to broker a deal to get this stuff, and re-ship, or, have it drop shipped?
I'm guessing you're not buying from the site you link to, but, use that site for product definition.
It'd be good, to see what's available, and, at what discount.
Some folks may buy some, even if they don't need it, just because it's super cheap.
are you saying you want to broker a deal to get this stuff, and re-ship, or, have it drop shipped?
I'm guessing you're not buying from the site you link to, but, use that site for product definition.
It'd be good, to see what's available, and, at what discount.
Some folks may buy some, even if they don't need it, just because it's super cheap.
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I'm interested...
Do you think it would work as a rooftop covering for my little canned ham trailer (it's only 10' long)? It gets hot even on mild days, was thinking of rigging a shade structure over it but that's looking pretty pricey. Would this be a good alternative...maybe just attach it to the roof?...thoughts?
Do you think it would work as a rooftop covering for my little canned ham trailer (it's only 10' long)? It gets hot even on mild days, was thinking of rigging a shade structure over it but that's looking pretty pricey. Would this be a good alternative...maybe just attach it to the roof?...thoughts?
If it isn't fastened down well, I don't know how well it would tolerate wind.
Someone posted on here about using the scrim to cover an RV, and said it worked great.
There was an entire camp covered in reflective material last year.
They attached their stuff to heavier material to give it more rigidity.
I think the rv ended up fastening the material directly to the outside for the event.
I can't find the thread, but it's out there.
The reflectix with air bubbles may give you enough air gap, but you may want to experiment first.
An air gap of even an inch or so, and open to ventilation on the edges will make a huge difference, as long as the material is reflective or an insulator.
Quarter inch or eighth inch plywood will work.
Reflectix could be attached under or over this, but you may not need it, if you paint it high gloss white.
Reflectix will reflect heat mounted on the inside, but will not replicate the air gap outside.
I'm doing a room on the inside for heat in summer.
It depends on what you can and are willing to do to mount this.
Flat, but spaced material has limited effect in the real world due to lack of ventilation, though it will still help.
The wind should take care of that most of the time.
Two layers of spaced, but extremely thin metal will block far more heat than you would think.
Experiment with some approaches.
Silvicool is another option.
It's supposed to be tough.
I've only seen it out of canada.
It may be aluminet solid.
Aluminet 80-90% is another approach, though it won't block as well.
It is stretchy and can be tied down with spacers holding it off the surface.
It's primary advantage is that it can be run flat and won't catch rain.
I got to look at a 1965 restored airstream today.
Very nice and shiny.
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... =reflectix
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... =reflectix
Someone posted on here about using the scrim to cover an RV, and said it worked great.
There was an entire camp covered in reflective material last year.
They attached their stuff to heavier material to give it more rigidity.
I think the rv ended up fastening the material directly to the outside for the event.
I can't find the thread, but it's out there.
The reflectix with air bubbles may give you enough air gap, but you may want to experiment first.
An air gap of even an inch or so, and open to ventilation on the edges will make a huge difference, as long as the material is reflective or an insulator.
Quarter inch or eighth inch plywood will work.
Reflectix could be attached under or over this, but you may not need it, if you paint it high gloss white.
Reflectix will reflect heat mounted on the inside, but will not replicate the air gap outside.
I'm doing a room on the inside for heat in summer.
It depends on what you can and are willing to do to mount this.
Flat, but spaced material has limited effect in the real world due to lack of ventilation, though it will still help.
The wind should take care of that most of the time.
Two layers of spaced, but extremely thin metal will block far more heat than you would think.
Experiment with some approaches.
Silvicool is another option.
It's supposed to be tough.
I've only seen it out of canada.
It may be aluminet solid.
Aluminet 80-90% is another approach, though it won't block as well.
It is stretchy and can be tied down with spacers holding it off the surface.
It's primary advantage is that it can be run flat and won't catch rain.
I got to look at a 1965 restored airstream today.
Very nice and shiny.
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... =reflectix
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... =reflectix
Someone mentioned a material called Reflektra too.lilyM wrote:I'm interested...
Do you think it would work as a rooftop covering for my little canned ham trailer (it's only 10' long)? It gets hot even on mild days, was thinking of rigging a shade structure over it but that's looking pretty pricey. Would this be a good alternative...maybe just attach it to the roof?...thoughts?
My impression is that it is less reflective, but not bad.
Thanks for the info!
I realize the gap is the all important feature...was kinda hoping the bubble in the reflextix would provide enough gap, but while it might help a bit, as you say, not so sure if it would be enough. As for adhering it, was thinking of using the foil tape around the edges with maybe a few cross pieces for support, but again a concern about the trailer, don't want to have a sticky mess afterwards. Does anyone have any experience with removal of the tape? Would it just be a big mess?
So...another idea...has anyone ever heard of using a trampoline as a tall shade structure? I have a 12' one that has a few small holes in the mat and so it is unusable for grownup jumping. It would fit nicely over my trailer and leave a larger shade footprint. I would replace the legs with 10' 1 1/4" emt, guywire the heck outta it, and use the concrete form auger stakes to hold it down. I could attach the reflextix to that. It would leave a gap of about 20" over my trailer, and not have much of a profile to the wind. My concerns....I don't want it to turn into a giant flying saucer. The round part of the frame is made of aluminum, albeit fairly strong aluminum..it holds up to jumping after all, and the springs would give the mat some flexibility in the wind. It's just not something I've ever seen used out there that way and I'm a little unsure if it's a good idea or not???
As for aluminet, alas, it is outta my price range.
Aaaaaaah airsteams....a Bambi would be my dream, but I really like my little 1961 Garway, she's very round and cozy. It'll be her first year on the playa (my 8th) so it'll be interesting to see how everything works out.
Thanks again for any and all suggestions!
I realize the gap is the all important feature...was kinda hoping the bubble in the reflextix would provide enough gap, but while it might help a bit, as you say, not so sure if it would be enough. As for adhering it, was thinking of using the foil tape around the edges with maybe a few cross pieces for support, but again a concern about the trailer, don't want to have a sticky mess afterwards. Does anyone have any experience with removal of the tape? Would it just be a big mess?
So...another idea...has anyone ever heard of using a trampoline as a tall shade structure? I have a 12' one that has a few small holes in the mat and so it is unusable for grownup jumping. It would fit nicely over my trailer and leave a larger shade footprint. I would replace the legs with 10' 1 1/4" emt, guywire the heck outta it, and use the concrete form auger stakes to hold it down. I could attach the reflextix to that. It would leave a gap of about 20" over my trailer, and not have much of a profile to the wind. My concerns....I don't want it to turn into a giant flying saucer. The round part of the frame is made of aluminum, albeit fairly strong aluminum..it holds up to jumping after all, and the springs would give the mat some flexibility in the wind. It's just not something I've ever seen used out there that way and I'm a little unsure if it's a good idea or not???
As for aluminet, alas, it is outta my price range.
Aaaaaaah airsteams....a Bambi would be my dream, but I really like my little 1961 Garway, she's very round and cozy. It'll be her first year on the playa (my 8th) so it'll be interesting to see how everything works out.
Thanks again for any and all suggestions!
With the reflectivity, the air gap is not as critical.
Much more so with plywood, etc.
The RV was using scrim (with no bubbles) and reported good results.
It seems like they strapped it down, not sure.
If you camp often in close proximity to your home, a permanent raised section might be worthwhile anyway.
I suggest experimenting with a sample.
Sounds like a cool trailer.
Got a photo?
Much more so with plywood, etc.
The RV was using scrim (with no bubbles) and reported good results.
It seems like they strapped it down, not sure.
If you camp often in close proximity to your home, a permanent raised section might be worthwhile anyway.
I suggest experimenting with a sample.
Sounds like a cool trailer.
Got a photo?
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do but leaning toward just using reflextix taped to the top or bungeed....?
It seems this might be the simplest solution. The camping I do besides BRC is usually in the mountains under trees so sun isn't such an issue.
No pics yet of the trailer, she's been all bundled up for the winter. Once the weather is a little more consistent (that is, not 70 degrees and sunny one day and then 70 mph winds and snow the next- it is Nevada after all) I'll get some pics. Can't wait to start working on her, and once I do will experiment around with coverings.
Thanks for the imput!
It seems this might be the simplest solution. The camping I do besides BRC is usually in the mountains under trees so sun isn't such an issue.
No pics yet of the trailer, she's been all bundled up for the winter. Once the weather is a little more consistent (that is, not 70 degrees and sunny one day and then 70 mph winds and snow the next- it is Nevada after all) I'll get some pics. Can't wait to start working on her, and once I do will experiment around with coverings.
Thanks for the imput!
[quote="lilyM"]Thanks for the info!
So...another idea...has anyone ever heard of using a trampoline as a tall shade structure? I have a 12' one that has a few small holes in the mat and so it is unusable for grownup jumping. It would fit nicely over my trailer and leave a larger shade footprint. I would replace the legs with 10' 1 1/4" emt, guywire the heck outta it, and use the concrete form auger stakes to hold it down. I could attach the reflextix to that. It would leave a gap of about 20" over my trailer, and not have much of a profile to the wind. My concerns....I don't want it to turn into a giant flying saucer. The round part of the frame is made of aluminum, albeit fairly strong aluminum..it holds up to jumping after all, and the springs would give the mat some flexibility in the wind. It's just not something I've ever seen used out there that way and I'm a little unsure if it's a good idea or not???
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IMHO, probably not such a great idea due to the weight of the frame and the cost of EMT. For the price of all that big EMT you could buy a complete Swap meet shade in 3/4" emt and provided you stake it well, it will last for many years.
http://www.tarpsplus.com/canopy10x10-1w51-3.html
I picked up one of these 10 years ago for 100 bucks at a swapmeet. It has been in some seriously heavy winds in the desert. In 2007 I converted it to 10x 20 and it went to the man a second time.
So...another idea...has anyone ever heard of using a trampoline as a tall shade structure? I have a 12' one that has a few small holes in the mat and so it is unusable for grownup jumping. It would fit nicely over my trailer and leave a larger shade footprint. I would replace the legs with 10' 1 1/4" emt, guywire the heck outta it, and use the concrete form auger stakes to hold it down. I could attach the reflextix to that. It would leave a gap of about 20" over my trailer, and not have much of a profile to the wind. My concerns....I don't want it to turn into a giant flying saucer. The round part of the frame is made of aluminum, albeit fairly strong aluminum..it holds up to jumping after all, and the springs would give the mat some flexibility in the wind. It's just not something I've ever seen used out there that way and I'm a little unsure if it's a good idea or not???
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IMHO, probably not such a great idea due to the weight of the frame and the cost of EMT. For the price of all that big EMT you could buy a complete Swap meet shade in 3/4" emt and provided you stake it well, it will last for many years.
http://www.tarpsplus.com/canopy10x10-1w51-3.html
I picked up one of these 10 years ago for 100 bucks at a swapmeet. It has been in some seriously heavy winds in the desert. In 2007 I converted it to 10x 20 and it went to the man a second time.
Decide which type you want and how much of it.
I'll see if I can get it.
The only one that seems to be hard to get is the scrim.
Decide how you want to ship.
Shipping may be most of the cost, due to bulk.
You may want to try to arrange unconventional shipping.
Email me, (not pm please) and we'll make arrangements.
It can ship out of indiana or Memphis.
Remember there may be flaws of some type.
I'll see if I can get it.
The only one that seems to be hard to get is the scrim.
Decide how you want to ship.
Shipping may be most of the cost, due to bulk.
You may want to try to arrange unconventional shipping.
Email me, (not pm please) and we'll make arrangements.
It can ship out of indiana or Memphis.
Remember there may be flaws of some type.