WHY I’M NOT GOING BACK TO BURNING MAN

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:37 am

Q: If you stay home will you pollute less?
A: No, probably more, but nobody will notice it.

Q: Will burn scars will be visible when mankind is extinct?
A: Are you kidding?

Q: If every man on the playa masturbated every day of the event, would this produce enough semen to fill a small wading pool?
A: Haven't tried it.

quadprincess · Post by **quadprincess** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:38 am

I don't know about anyone else, but I thought that this post was quite hilarious!

Zane5100 · Post by **Zane5100** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:43 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Q: If every man on the playa masturbated every day of the event, would this produce enough semen to fill a small wading pool?
A: Haven't tried it.

Okay, who wants to do the "Spooge in a Pool" theme camp...?

It'd be cheap--a wading pool, porn, and some lotion.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:39 am

boarhead wrote:(and no, I haven't read the 4,000 replys you got and don't plan on it).

Boarhead

what a perfect handle.

dj big E · Post by **dj big E** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:06 am

hey my arguements are great and my grammar sucks.lmao but this treehuggers pissing me off i spent 6 hours on monday picking up moop from other peoples camps they all abandoned sun this asshole probly ran to civilization with all the other winy assholes during sundays great windstorm.well you get the jist of it quit fucking whining bm was great this year nekt year is only 359 days away fucking stay home whiners.dj big "E"

attydog · Post by **attydog** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:53 am

We're all living in glass houses
We're all hypocrites
I believe it's more about where you draw the line than anything else - enviromentalist? it's an irritating label at best. You just do what you can do.

I think Big Dave may have missed the mark about the non-consumer nature of the event. Nobody's really stupid enough to think the message is buying and selling is bad, are they?

mo_corleone's points about people's actions having more far-reaching consequences than they realize is well-taken.
When you push the dominoe, you just never know what's going to fall.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:24 pm

i have yet to hear any serious, skeptical response to astrology that doesn't rely on handwaving or strawman arguments

the procession of the earths axis of rotation. To my knowledge, the zodiak is not updated relative to this motion and therefor does not take into account the shifting of the skies. So, even if astrology were a valid system at the time of it's invention, it would now be innaccurate due to this phenomenon.

Juju · Post by **Juju** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:27 pm

consumer wrote:I believe the most valid reason for not returning to Black Rock City is the epidemic-like amount of horrible trance 'music' being played out there. I think this atrocity is far, far worse than anything 'bigdave' mentioned in his diatribe.

No shit.

fucking pandas and their crappy trance.

I admit to being one of those electronic music afficionados, but even I get sick of having to explain to people that it's not a huge "rave" in the desert each year.

Next year I want to see more mariachis, dammit!

Flux · Post by **Flux** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:32 pm

Next year I want to see more mariachis, dammit!

I know of a guy in the organization who is working to get a full-blown mariachi band to Burning Man. Stay tuned -- your wish may come true!

clandyone · Post by **clandyone** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:39 pm

Flux wrote: I know of a guy in the organization who is working to get a full-blown mariachi band to Burning Man. Stay tuned -- your wish may come true!

That would ROCK.

I saw a full-blown mariachi band at Burning Man my first year, but I know now it was the peyote. My first clue was that all the players were about seven and a half inches tall, and had calaveras instead of faces. Real mariachi band better, yes yes.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:43 pm

I believe the most valid reason for not returning to Black Rock City is the epidemic-like amount of horrible trance 'music' being played out there. I think this atrocity is far, far worse than anything 'bigdave' mentioned in his diatribe.

i wish there was a way to know, when seeing a statement like this, if this person means trance, or is using the term generically, as is often the case, for all forms of house music.

was dueling with the pa. Guy said he was sick of all the trance at burning man and wanted to hear something different. He put on the gr8full dead. Innovative. I later put on Kenny Wheeler in the 'lets hear something different' vein, but I gotta tell ya, it did not get the crowd that Deep Dish 'yoshiesque' got.

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:14 pm

I want to be your bitch.

Where do I sign up?

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:24 pm

Juju wrote: Next year I want to see more mariachis, dammit!

And you have to remember that Mariachi bands taste like chicken.

<i>See, Ravers aren't the only "other white meat".</i>

Borris · Post by **Borris** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:42 pm

clandyone wrote: I saw a full-blown mariachi band at Burning Man my first year, but I know now it was the peyote. My first clue was that all the players were about seven and a half inches tall, and had calaveras instead of faces. Real mariachi band better, yes yes.

I'll have what she had!!!

Kinetic · Post by **Kinetic** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:18 pm

As much as I loved Sandra Collins, and the music at Reorient and Xara a little musical diversity might be one of the things that takes BM to the next level. I wish we had more choices besides techno and dance...I go to BM to explore things I would never do here in the conservative Midwest and the more choices I can get exposed to, the better. I've never heard a Mariachi band....except on TV. I'd welcome anything and everything out there, just give us something DIFFERENT!

But if it has to be dance, bringing in Sandra Collins was a damn good choice. Anyone who can make me dance with serious playa foot going on is really that damn good. And she is. My feet were hurting, even bleeding, but her set was so good I couldn't stop dancing. Totally unbelievable.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:38 pm

If someone does not make a camp for me next year that has something other than trance I am not going back.

Borris · Post by **Borris** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:41 pm

stuart scanlon wrote:If someone does not make a camp for me next year that has something other than trance I am not going back.

There was Techno and House and New School breaks this year.

But i guess it's all trance to you.

playasnake · Post by **playasnake** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:51 pm

actually i think he was poking fun.

Borris · Post by **Borris** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:02 pm

I know, I'm just sick of all boom boom boom being called trance, there is lot's of different boom boom boom with different names to it.

playasnake · Post by **playasnake** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:04 pm

sometimes 'they' call it techno too..

sugarlarry · Post by **sugarlarry** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:06 pm

"Okay, who wants to do the "Spooge in a Pool" theme camp...?"

I think evaporation would be a problem for tracking levels... not to mention dust getting into the pool and making it mucky. All around I think this could win "Worst Theme Camp Ever" award. Still... it would be interesting to see it on the Playa.

Blech. Hate to trip into that pool in the middle of the night.

Taz · Post by **Taz** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:22 am

We ask people to put pans, tarps under their vehicles to prevent drips from soaking into the ground. We can't force exeryone to. Likewise it is the hope that the art cars are in good order to minimalize the spills. Of course there are maintenance vehicles plus the time it takes you to reach your camp adds to the chances of spills. The point is we try to minimalize the damage as much as possible. Yes , we are required to put the place back to the same condition it was as a requirement for permit. I have nothing against environmental protection.
You're right about much of your other complaints. The accomodations are lousey , the dust is terrible, getting along with your campmates is a hassel. These are reasons why more potential attendees don't come. I'll guess the desert was chosen because it was the only place big enough to accomodate a growing city of over 30K.
For most of us what we find there is worth the hassel we put up with. Whether it's a right or left conspiracy doesn't matter to me. Whether it's anti- capitalist or not doesn't bother me. I'm not there for political protest or anti-establishment causes. I'm there to find myself.
You're dang right it's not for everybody. It's a good thing you've tried it once. Good luck wherever you find yourself.

portazo · Post by **portazo** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:38 am

Taz wrote:I'll guess the desert was chosen because it was the only place big enough to accomodate a growing city of over 30K.

And not much around to catch on fire!

sugarlarry · Post by **sugarlarry** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:40 am

"I'll guess the desert was chosen because it was the only place big enough to accomodate a growing city of over 30K."

Plus - lets face it - everything looks pretty amazing against the perfectly flat white ground. It's like a canvas.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:44 am

All this - except the zodiac excursions - are a perfect argument for taking Burningman local and small rather than central and industrial strength.

dj big E · Post by **dj big E** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:16 am

definately less trance theyre was alot of other good music repping out theyre ie the space cowboys party fri and the db from xara unforunately the two main all night all morning mega sound systems pumped trance trance trance trance anthem you get the point ,hope a few of you enjoyed the drum and breaks and house we were pumping in our very own nitros dome we were on 945 gospel i believe.Anyways hopefully one of the trance masters at the ends will pull out some breaks our house or even just some good old hard core techno or fucking slayer for all i care .lmao nekt year i am going to do like a sound test set sounds like fun.anyways no whining dammit burn spend buy pollute but most of all enjoy lmao.dj big "E"

TestesInSac · Post by **TestesInSac** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:29 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:All this - except the zodiac excursions - are a perfect argument for taking Burningman local and small rather than central and industrial strength.

Actually, all of it, including the Zodiac nonsense, is a good reason to just go local. My camp ain't gonna like it, but I'm about 90% convinced that I've had enough of the useless dreadlocked hippie fuckwit consumers of others' efforts. The quivery-lipped nonsense about BM being too white, the whining about the flag, the nonsense about generators, the whining about BLM rangers and the rest of the leftist PC bullshit is just a bit much now.

At least all the locals I know plan well for themselves, work hard and take care of themselves, too.

sugarlarry · Post by **sugarlarry** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:48 am

"The quivery-lipped nonsense about BM being too white, the whining about the flag, the nonsense about generators, the whining about BLM rangers and the rest of the leftist PC bullshit is just a bit much now. "

I don't really think there is all that much whining. It's just a few people really, and they're just expressing wishes. Yeah, sure... I'd love to see greater ethnic diversity, fuel cells and fewer cops, but hey. It is what it is - PC hippies included. I think the whole idea is that BM is a mixed bag o' nuts. Us included. The only truly negative elements are the predators. I think we should focus on this, and not all the really minor stuff.

Zane5100 · Post by **Zane5100** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:51 am

sugarlarry wrote:The only truly negative elements are the predators.

Don't forget the parasites.

TawnyGnosis · Post by **TawnyGnosis** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:10 pm

"Actually, all of it, including the Zodiac nonsense, is a good reason to just go local. My camp ain't gonna like it, but I'm about 90% convinced that I've had enough of the useless dreadlocked hippie fuckwit consumers of others' efforts. The quivery-lipped nonsense about BM being too white, the whining about the flag, the nonsense about generators, the whining about BLM rangers and the rest of the leftist PC bullshit is just a bit much now."

So why are you here? You seem awfully judgemental and unhappy about burning man. So why do you post here with all the "dreadlocked hippy fuckwit consumers"?

Go away then. Why are you taking the time to even worry about it? Leave. I'm not just speaking of you Tom( because you really annoy me) but bigdave as well. You are entitled to express your opinion but my personal perception of these kinds of whiney blah blah blah posts is that I would rather not share my experience of ecstatic joy with people who hold your attitudes.

We all have the right to express our opinions and concerns of course so this is mine. I disagree with you Dave and it's your perogative to not return( yah!).

I think that our experience is based mostly on what we choose to see, and I choose to see the oppurtunity for transformation and extreme artistic expression that I havent found anywhere else.

If you don't like something fix it, why not build a theme camp for uptight nerdy Republicans if you arent comfortable.

You don't have to be a mindless fuckwit to have an open mind. I would like to think that even though I have an desire to learn, I'm not a who drooling idiot without logic. It's called having a sense of wonder, and I would think if you don't have that burning man really wouldn't do much for you.

Rather than being unhappy with burning man, I think the new e-playa reeks of boring negativity. I'm out! Go bitch now.

-T

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