BP

[cowboyangel]

If I accidentally shoot a bald eagle or an endangered clapper rail, guess what? I go to jail. JAIL.
All the BP execs and Haliburton execs should go to jail. We'd see a lot less of these tragedies if the bastards faced serious jail time. I'm sick of these environmental "terrorists" getting off Scot free.

Any doubts that the law favors corporations and the rich? Drink some oil and wash yourselves in it for your answer.

[DVD Burner]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

No You Did Ant!

[DVD Burner]

BUSH CHENEY, RICE RUMMY, WOLFOWITZ AND THE LOT SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH TREASON, TRIED, CONVICTED AND EXECUTED TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW/CONSTITUTION.


No one is following the Law.

There is no way anyone can tell me none of these folks did not break the law and the law of the Constitution of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THEY ALL BROKE THE LAW.

These are some of the dumbest people on the planet, they always hide because of it and they are getting away with MURDER!

This is a fact.

But lets just stick to BP!

[DVD Burner]

Sorry, maybe that was a little bit over the top for those that do not understand or know the constitution.


Cheers!

I have to go to a birthday party.

[Isotopia]

Option #3: own up to the fact that the substantial majority of us are just as fucking liable and guilty to insults against the planet.

Cowboy, could you stop being so fucking binary with your polls?

[cowboyangel]

Sorry Iso, I fucked up on the poll. I input 4 options and only 2 came out.
Death by firing squad? Ya, you're right...we buy the fucking oil don't we.....

Hey I picked up a bottle of Makers in your honor....still prefer single malt scotch....

[Trishntek]

Where in the hell do you think they get that money from? Your back pocket! But of course I'm sure you don't use any petroleum products,,,,, right????

[Isotopia]

Read the post again you brow scratching, ass-dragging retard.

Better yet, consider not chiming in until you know what the fuck you're talking about or you at least have something cogent to contribute.

On the flip side I guess I should be appreciative to you for illustrating why it is that the mothers of some animals eat their young.

Now take your ass back to the kiddie pool and piss there. Would ya?

[gyre]

Rush Limbo says that we should just give them the benefit of the doubt and that people are only bashing BP because they're liberals.
I keep hearing that excuse lately, even in war crime trials.

He says we should just trust them because they know what they are doing.

Everybody knew this was going to happen eventually.

[DVD Burner]

Sorry Iso, I fucked up on the poll. I input 4 options and only 2 came out.
Death by firing squad? Ya, you're right...we buy the fucking oil don't we.....

Hey I picked up a bottle of Makers in your honor....still prefer single malt scotch....

Yea. You shouda clicked the preview first.

I have run into the same problem and that kinda solved it.

Oh well.

Just the same tho.......


Still like the good intentions.

[DVD Burner]

Rush Limbo says that we should just give them the benefit of the doubt and that people are only bashing BP because they're liberals.
I keep hearing that excuse lately, even in war crime trials.

He says we should just trust them because they know what they are doing.

Everybody knew this was going to happen eventually.

Needed to be posted again.

[Fire_Moose]

Don't worry, soon gas prices will be up so that BP doesn't take a hit over this...


seems gas always spikes around labor day.

[gyre]

Last I heard, their cost with damages was 7 days profit.

[ygmir]

is it true, that, the gov. makes more on a gallon of gas than the gas companies?
If so, it sort of makes sense, why, some inspectors and regulators turn the other way..........

[mdmf007]

There have been literally thousands of deep water wells in the gulf for decades. With decades of safe service.

just under 20 MILLION barrels of oil are consumed in the us every day. Where do you think this oil comes from? 11 million is imported and we produce 9 million of it. Just about everything in our need-it-now society can be traced back to oil.

BP has to be one of the most safety conscious companies I have ever worked with. Of course this accident sucks and heads will roll. Fines will be levied and processes changed.

Now in a completely reactionary move congress si talking about another moratorium on deep offshore drilling? There is no basis for that move IMHO and it will do nothing but keep the cost of oil high. Maybe that is what we need.

We are past peak oil - we are simply running out of it. In hindsight burning our natural reserve of oil in an orgy of private transport was not the best course of action. More than likely my grandkids will probably never know the luxury of flying in an airplane. It will just be to cost prohibitive.

[gyre]

The thing is, there is no margin for error, especially in the gulf.

The promised safety devices are non-existent.
And their defense now is that they don't know what they're doing in water that deep.
All experimental.

A failure was inevitable.
How many are acceptable?


I don't know if stopping drilling is more or less realistic than allowing it without real thought in the first place.
I think a firm grasp on reality is called for.

Part of the cost of deep sea oil is cleanup that the oil companies have never borne fully before.
Louisiana may be a writeoff.

[Ugly Dougly]

Better living through chemistry.

[DVD Burner]

There have been literally thousands of deep water wells in the gulf for decades. With decades of safe service.

just under 20 MILLION barrels of oil are consumed in the us every day. Where do you think this oil comes from? 11 million is imported and we produce 9 million of it. Just about everything in our need-it-now society can be traced back to oil.

BP has to be one of the most safety conscious companies I have ever worked with. Of course this accident sucks and heads will roll. Fines will be levied and processes changed.

Now in a completely reactionary move congress si talking about another moratorium on deep offshore drilling? There is no basis for that move IMHO and it will do nothing but keep the cost of oil high. Maybe that is what we need.

We are past peak oil - we are simply running out of it. In hindsight burning our natural reserve of oil in an orgy of private transport was not the best course of action. More than likely my grandkids will probably never know the luxury of flying in an airplane. It will just be to cost prohibitive.

UH.......I really think you should read this.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... in-history

And these are only 10 that the article speaks of.

[DVD Burner]

I dont understand why no one is getting the fact that BP does not want to stop this spill.

[mdmf007]

I work in spill response. ALYESKA is our largest customer, with BP being the largest part of that group.

Any situation that has odds of occurring - will happen. If there is a one in a million chance of getting struck by lightning, wait long enough and it WILL happen. Thats how odds work. I know the numbers and it sucks.

Like Gyre said - Failure was inevitable (eventually).

All Im saying is that if we want oil, there is a price to pay. Sure we can make drilling safer, but who will pay for it? if gas was to go to 10 bucks a gallon - there would be riots in the streets and impact to the economy to make today's recession / depression look like a hiccup.

I just returned form Louisiana and am headed back to Valdez to keep the black stuff flowing there as well. 660,000 barrels a day from Valdez. (down from 2 mil+ 10 years ago)

I am familiar with the 10 largest oil spill list, this spill may make the low end of it soon.

[Trishntek]

is it true, that, the gov. makes more on a gallon of gas than the gas companies?
If so, it sort of makes sense, why, some inspectors and regulators turn the other way..........

My understanding is the oil companies profit around 9 or 10 cents per gallon. In California, the State gets 18 cents per gallon plus the sales tax. The Feds get 18 cents per gallon plus the mineral royalty off public lands and waters. The guy who owns the pump only gets about 5 cents per gallon.

[DVD Burner]

For those trying to figure out volume of fluid that can come out of a pipe, area equals “pi (3.14159) times the radius squaredâ€

[DVD Burner]

Mind you, the oil companies are the reason America went to war in Iraq.

There are a shit load of suckers in the world.

[Ugly Dougly]

I don't see a lot of people getting on bikes and using mass transit in response to this.

[Isotopia]

The thing is, there is no margin for error, especially in the gulf.

Well, that sentiment goes for other areas. Consider the even more sensitive Chesapeake bay which would likely be endangered if proposed drilling of Virginia's coast were to happen here in the next decade.

[DVD Burner]

For those trying to figure out what kind of pressures we are talking about at 5000 foot depth. Salt water weighs 64 pounds per cubic foot, devided by 144 square inches per square foot gets about 1/2 pound per foot of depth. At 5000 feet that would be over one ton of pressure per square inch. Or at 14.7 psi per atmosphere of pressure that would be about 150 atmospheres of pressure at 5000 foot depth. Thus a gas bubble of one cubic foot at the ocean floor would be 150 cubic feet at the surface.

[DVD Burner]

Just curious, has BP stopped the spill yet?


BWWWWAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Suckers!

[Apollonaris Zeus]

I dont understand why no one is getting the fact that BP does not want to stop this spill.

Nice to come back and see DVD is still Fucking nuts!

Love you DVD!

BP has lied from the beginning!

AIIZ

[DVD Burner]

Stupid question and already too late to think about:


How far should we let Big Oil go?

An alternative annual report for the oil company Chevron looks at the deep costs paid for the world's oil addiction


Antonia Juhasz

guardian.co.uk, Monday 24 May 2010 19.00 BST

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ual-report

In the month since BP's oil rig exploded in the US Gulf Coast, what has struck me the most is not, unfortunately, the magnitude of the spill, the damage caused that is likely to continue for decades, the inability of BP or federal agencies to clean up – much less stop – the spill, or the revelations of BP's pre-explosion lobbying, which likely contributed greatly to the disaster taking place.

I have instead been most moved by the rapid, overwhelming and broad-based demand from people all across the US and the world for a fundamental rethinking of just how far they are willing to let Big Oil go in pursuit of the world's remaining oil.

As I prepare for the annual general meeting of the fourth largest global oil company – Chevron (BP is the third largest) – I am confronted daily by people who are looking around their own communities and out across the world with new-found attention to the deep costs paid every day for our oil addiction.

A new alternative annual report for Chevron, The True Cost of Chevron, of which I am an author and the editor, will be released at a press conference on 25 May in Houston, Texas – just a few hundred miles from the sites where oil is washing up on shore following the explosion on BP's rig. Written by dozens of authors from 16 countries and 10 states from across the US who either live in, or advocate on behalf of, communities where Chevron operates, the report criticises Chevron's record on human rights, the environment, the climate, public health, worker safety and treatment of indigenous populations.

From Chevron's coalfields in Alabama to its oil wells in Indonesia, the report examines operations mired in accusations of human rights abuse (Angola, Burma, Indonesia, Chad and Nigeria); mass environmental and human health devastation (including Ecuador, Kazakhstan and Canada); toxic abuse of its neighbours (including Alabama, California, Mississippi, Texas, Thailand and the Philippines); abuse of its workers (including Utah); threats to endangered species (including Australia and the US Gulf Coast); and, in Iraq, intensifying the violent insurgency and putting the lives of US and Iraqi service members at greater risk.

There is also a powerful silver lining. All of these authors are part of a global resistance movement bringing its message to Houston where Chevron is hosting its AGM.

It has likely been 40 years since the American public in particular, was so ready to hear and embrace this message. In 1969, a Unocal (now Chevron) oil platform off the coast of California experienced a massive blowout and the issue forced its way to the nation's attention. Activists organised against offshore drilling in their community, ultimately enlisting millions of supporters and advocates, spawning a massive environmental movement which, within just a few years, achieved the establishment of the US Environmental Protection Agency and the passage of the US Clean Air and Clean Water Acts.

The communities most directly harmed by oil's abuse are organised, networked and ready. The public is roused, angered and ready to act. The oil corporations are on notice: the true cost of their operations is simply too great to bear. For as long as we continue to use oil, the operations of its providers will be restricted, reined in, regulated and, ultimately, retired.

[DVD Burner]

I dont understand why no one is getting the fact that BP does not want to stop this spill.

Nice to come back and see DVD is still Fucking nuts!

Love you DVD!

BP has lied from the beginning!

AIIZ

Yeah, fucking nuts.

How many people are still here after all these years calling me nuts only to find out 3-8 years later I was right and right all along.

Cowboy is another that has the same credibility as I for just as long.

So, AIIZ, hows that IPV6 workin for ya?


I guess you, the Geekster and Spectabill weren't as up on things as yall though yall were.


To put it mildly to say the least. But I wont go there.


It's ok, you are entertaining just the same.