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Jail Haliburton Execs
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:36 am

DVD Burner wrote:Hey, has Obama plugged up that hole yet? :shock: :?
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Post by DVD Burner » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:37 am

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Post by DVD Burner » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:36 pm

Hey, I know people here are angry with me here for posting the truth, but I did a little research on BP today.

Did you know that before BP was called BP it was called, "The Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) was founded in 1908 following the discovery of a large oil field in Masjed Soleiman, Iran. It was the first company to extract oil from the Middle East. In 1935 APOC was renamed the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) and in 1954 became the British Petroleum Company (BP), one of the antecedents of the modern BP Plc."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company


Uh....like....I uh....think you may want to read up on the rest of the story.

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Be mad at America and the British.

It's pretty much why Iran is pissed off with the world in the first place.

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Post by mdmf007 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:50 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Well looks like some non-believers in this thread are really gonna have a hard time disputing the facts that are in this article that just came out yesterday.

Also, within the article towards the bottom is an hour long video of the Treason you say is non-prosecutable.

Have fun trying to prove the facts wrong. :P

Yeah I know, sometimes it really sucks to be this good.

But hey, it's only just my opinion of course.

:? :roll:

Oh and P.S. Dont worry if this all is a bit too much to understand or may be too much to read.
It's really for the intelligentsia in this thread such as the OP Cowboy and the such. Everyone else can just ignore the last 2 articles I've posted. It may just be too complicated to understand.

We really dont need any exploding heads, ok?

Oh and Oh oh oh, in the video it tells of how DICK Cheney flunked out of YALE! This guys even calls him A LOOSER!

Ha ha ha ha ha! It really is a great video.
Good stuff - Unfortunately no one will ever face charges for it though. Ill pay you a thousand Dollars, and let you chop my little toe off with bolt cutters if anyone in the Bush cabinet faces charges for treason.

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Post by DVD Burner » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:08 pm

Yeah, you may be right but it's totally placed out there with that article and the Harper's magazine article with logical reasons why it's necessary to be carried out.
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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:32 pm

question, is Kenneth Feinberg Jewish.

seriously....just asking.

Does anyone know anything about him?

Please post if and of what you know about him.

20 bil seems to be a rather low estimate.

Listen, this is not about any racism here.

what is his connection to Israel?

Seriously need to be proven wrong here.

Something is very funny here.

911 has Israel conspiracy theories connected to it and now this.

Does not look right.

Not trying to say anything but hey......

really does look kinda funny. :?

Please please someone prove me wrong but last time I saw an oiler say he wanted to try to suck oil out of anywhere was because he wanted to have the earth collapse. it was on either NPR or PBS.

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Post by Sham » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:49 am

DVD Burner wrote:question, is Kenneth Feinberg Jewish.

seriously....just asking.
You fucking uneducated asswipe. You need to find a new hobby and stop trying to impress eveyone here with your inane shit. Find a new hobby and fuck off you stupid fool.

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Post by Fire_Moose » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:10 am

Shambala wrote:
Who do I sound like, you butt-nugget?
Fer sure, that Shambala guy
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Post by Trishntek » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:54 am

Who's idea was it to drill in such deep water in the first place?

http://the-classic-liberal.com/deepwate ... nment-oil/
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Post by Fire_Moose » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:04 am

Wasn't it Palin?
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:16 am

Trishntek wrote:Who's idea was it to drill in such deep water in the first place?

http://the-classic-liberal.com/deepwate ... nment-oil/
And this is why you have no credibility.

Who in their right mind would take a site like this seriously

WHO WROTE THIS CRAP? We will never know because there is no author published with the so called "article".

This looks like a website you would have made.

I read the site only to post that it is not worth reading or the time to waste.

I know because the site wasted my time.
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Post by Trishntek » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:04 pm

What can be addressed now is the larger issue that a flawed, risky well plan for the MC 252 well was approved by the MMS, and BP, Anadarko and Mitsui management. Similar or identical plans were undoubtedly approved and used by many operators on other wells drilled in the Gulf of Mexico. A plan that does not include enough cement to overlap the final and previous casing strings, and that does not require running a cement-bond log to ensure the integrity of the seal is a defective plan. The fact that there have not been blowouts on previous wells does not justify the approval and use of an unsafe plan.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:44 pm

Trishntek wrote:
What can be addressed now is the larger issue that a flawed, risky well plan for the MC 252 well was approved by the MMS, and BP, Anadarko and Mitsui management. Similar or identical plans were undoubtedly approved and used by many operators on other wells drilled in the Gulf of Mexico. A plan that does not include enough cement to overlap the final and previous casing strings, and that does not require running a cement-bond log to ensure the integrity of the seal is a defective plan. The fact that there have not been blowouts on previous wells does not justify the approval and use of an unsafe plan.
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Still dont understand your point.
Everyone knows that the MMS over the past 9 years has been a product of and working for Dick Cheney and Bush since Cheney's new energy plan was put in place.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:03 pm

What cracks me up is BP and people like that dont give a shit about ANY FUCKING TINY LITTLE "SMALL PEOPLE".

I told yall from the beginning, BP has no plans to clean up this spill and no plans to plug the hole.

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Post by EmilyD » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:15 pm

Rachel Maddow's FUCKING BRILLIANT redo of President Obama's sadly limp speech about the Gulf Oil disaster:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/1 ... =fb&src=sp
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:26 pm

Rachel Maddow's always on it. But soon she Ed and Dylan will be silenced now that Comcast has just bought MSNBC.
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Post by EmilyD » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:57 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Rachel Maddow's always on it. But soon she Ed and Dylan will be silenced now that Comcast has just bought MSNBC.
Nah!!! Comcast cares more about making money than ideology. As long as Rachel & Ed keep bringing in the ad dollars they're safe.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:12 pm

Sure hope so. They do a great job with research and exposing what they find.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:13 pm

Shambala wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:question, is Kenneth Feinberg Jewish.

seriously....just asking.
You fucking uneducated asswipe. You need to find a new hobby and stop trying to impress eveyone here with your inane shit. Find a new hobby and fuck off you stupid fool.

I have tried to give you polite replies to your posts, but you are too fucking dumb to comprehend those.

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Post by EmilyD » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:54 pm

EmilyD wrote:Rachel Maddow's FUCKING BRILLIANT redo of President Obama's sadly limp speech about the Gulf Oil disaster:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/1 ... =fb&src=sp
Here's a very interesting take from the Ed Schultz show:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/ ... mplishment

Apologies if these links have already been posted. I didn't see them up here.
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Post by EmilyD » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:03 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Hey, I know people here are angry with me here for posting the truth, but I did a little research on BP today.

Did you know that before BP was called BP it was called, "The Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) was founded in 1908 following the discovery of a large oil field in Masjed Soleiman, Iran. It was the first company to extract oil from the Middle East. In 1935 APOC was renamed the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) and in 1954 became the British Petroleum Company (BP), one of the antecedents of the modern BP Plc."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company


Uh....like....I uh....think you may want to read up on the rest of the story.

Please dont be mad at me.

Be mad at America and the British.

It's pretty much why Iran is pissed off with the world in the first place.

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Personally, I'm mad at Henry Ford!
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:06 pm

Henry Ford actually foresaw this oil situation happening and tried to do something about it with George Washington Carver:
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist ... 9?catId=17
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Post by Thecatman » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:01 pm

It would be nice to see BP file bankruptcy and then the $20billion that the savior demanded will be lost.
Nobody gets anything. Unfortunatly that would hurt the economy more but it just shows how stupid this President is.
Let the courts decide who gets what, stop trying to make matters worse and stop publicising your agenda BHO
BHO is delaying the clean-up by refusing to accept help from other countries just to make this worse so he can raise taxes on gas and diesel and other petroleum products and push for "renewable resorces." Which I'm all for when the renewable products become affordable. If someone invented a car that runs on dirty sea water and is proven reliable and is affordable and is accepted, I'll buy one.
He'll send 17,000 National Gaurd personel to the golf (oops, I mean gulf) but send any to the border states.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:16 am

Oh oh, Thecatman is another Tea bagger!

Probably a little racist too.

I can come up with better reasons to dislike Obama but the Husein thing is really not only kinda weak, it identifies you with other racist

This is a well known fact.

Calling him Obama is enough to get to your point.

And I bet someone before not too long will be calling me a black kettle because I am against what Israel does.

Mind you, that's not racist but most idiots dont see it that way.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:24 am

Judge favored by BP has financial ties to oil industry


By Abbie Boudreau and David Fitzpatrick, CNN Special Investigations Unit
June 17, 2010 7:01 p.m. EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/17/bp.judge.oil.ties/

More on the investigation into the judge BP wants to oversee lawsuits resulting from the Deepwater Horizon explosion on tonight's AC360 at 10 p.m. ET

Houston, Texas (CNN) -- The judge that BP wants to hear an estimated 200 lawsuits over the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster gets tens of thousands of dollars a year in oil royalties and is paid travel expenses to industry conferences, financial disclosure forms show.

Lawyers who practice before U.S. District Judge Lynn Hughes say he's tough but fair, and a CNN review of his cases found he ruled in favor of oil companies only slightly more often than he ruled against them. But his connections to the industry have raised eyebrows at a time when BP is under fire for the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

Federal financial disclosure forms obtained by CNN show that since 2003, Hughes has consistently been paid annual fees from the oil and gas industry, mostly in the form of lease payments for wells and mineral rights on land he owns. None of the payments comes from BP, but his holdings include mutual funds that draw income from Anadarko Petroleum, a minority owner in the well now pouring up to 2.5 million gallons a day into the Gulf.

In some cases, the amounts are significant. In others, the payments are relatively small.

Oil giant ConocoPhillips paid him between $50,000 and $100,000 in 2008, the last year in which records are publicly available. In a note attached to the 2008 form, Hughes said he expected the amounts to be relatively similar for 2009. He gets smaller amounts from smaller producers such as Sun Oil, Everest Oil and Wagner Oil, which pay for the right to drill oil and gas from lands he owns.

The federal disclosure form does not require exact amounts, only estimates and approximate figures.

A legal expert on ethics, Indiana University professor Charles Geyh, told CNN that judges with financial ties to the oil industry should make their connections crystal clear.

"When you take it together, is there a concern that a reasonable person might say, 'Look-it, he's not a judge that happens to be dabbling -- he's in effect a participant in the industry he's trying to judge,' " Geyh said.

Hughes has been sitting on the federal bench in Houston since the mid-1980s, and BP has asked that he supervise all of the estimated 200 cases filed against it since the April sinking of the offshore drill rig Deepwater Horizon. The sinking left 11 workers dead and uncorked a gusher that has been fouling the Gulf for more than eight weeks.

In court filings in early May, BP requested Hughes be assigned to preside over the spill lawsuits because he already was assigned to one of the first cases, a lawsuit filed on behalf of Vietnamese-American fishermen from Louisiana. According to an e-mail sent to CNN, BP said the judge "is an appropriate choice to provide oversight of these cases."

The Department of Justice has asked that the suits be consolidated in New Orleans, Louisiana, the closest federal court to the spill. The sinking took place in the waters off southeastern Louisiana, about 40 miles off the mouth of the Mississippi River.

BP would not comment on Hughes' financial disclosures. But the judge has held two recent meetings in Houston to discuss possible ethics concerns, a lawyer who attended those meetings told CNN.

"In both of those hearings, the questions have been raised about whether or not he should preside over these cases or whether there will be a conflict," Mark Lanier, a prominent Houston plaintiff attorney, told CNN. "In the second one, the judge explained he had listed online all of his financial disclosure information, so people would be able to look at and probe."

One particular case over which Hughes presided in 2009 is raising questions.

In 2008, Hughes listed royalty payments from about 10 wells leased to Devon Energy, an Oklahoma City-based oil and gas company. The amounts were relatively small -- under $15,000, according to his disclosure form -- and a source told CNN the payments were for a collection of nine or 10 wells scattered in land across two or three states.

In May of 2009, Hughes issued a favorable decision for Devon Energy in a dispute with its insurance company. According to an attorney for the insurance firm, the total amount was $3.9 million. Court records show that Hughes did not disclose his royalty payments from Devon at any point during the proceedings.

No one claims the judge has violated the federal code of judicial ethics, but Geyh says appearances matter.

"I think the best practice that is out there, and I think what judges across the country are encouraged to do, is that if there is any doubt, put some sunshine on the problem," he said. "Turn your cards face up, to mix metaphors, and make it clear to the parties what your potential interests are."

Hughes also travels widely and speaks to meetings held by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, including one held in early June in the Canadian city of Calgary and an earlier conference in Cape Town, South Africa.

He's the association's distinguished lecturer on ethics, having delivered 10 speeches to the trade group in the past three years.

The association doesn't pay him a fee but does supply his travel, accommodation and expenses, said Larry Nation, a spokesman for the trade group.

Federal judges rarely respond to requests for comment from journalists. But Hughes told CNN in an e-mail that while he couldn't speak to past or present cases, he did quote Thomas Jefferson: "Let facts be submitted to a candid world," he wrote.

Lawyers who know him call Hughes a tough but fair judge and say the reference is to a desire for transparency on his part. But attorneys for environmental advocacy groups say that for BP to request Hughes be assigned to the spill lawsuits is "outrageous and unseemly."

CNN examined three years of Hughes' rulings on oil and gas cases, finding he ruled in favor of oil companies only slightly more often than ruling against them. As for other federal judges, a recent survey showed more than 20 federal judges across the Gulf states have a financial interest in oil and gas companies.

Several of them have rescued themselves from presiding over cases related to the Gulf spill.
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Post by EmilyD » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:18 am

Thecatman wrote:It would be nice to see BP file bankruptcy and then the $20billion that the savior demanded will be lost.
Nobody gets anything. Unfortunatly that would hurt the economy more but it just shows how stupid this President is.
Let the courts decide who gets what, stop trying to make matters worse and stop publicising your agenda BHO
BHO is delaying the clean-up by refusing to accept help from other countries just to make this worse so he can raise taxes on gas and diesel and other petroleum products and push for "renewable resorces." Which I'm all for when the renewable products become affordable. If someone invented a car that runs on dirty sea water and is proven reliable and is affordable and is accepted, I'll buy one.
He'll send 17,000 National Gaurd personel to the golf (oops, I mean gulf) but send any to the border states.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:05 pm

EmilyD wrote:
Thecatman wrote:It would be nice to see BP file bankruptcy and then the $20billion that the savior demanded will be lost.
Nobody gets anything. Unfortunatly that would hurt the economy more but it just shows how stupid this President is.
Let the courts decide who gets what, stop trying to make matters worse and stop publicising your agenda BHO
BHO is delaying the clean-up by refusing to accept help from other countries just to make this worse so he can raise taxes on gas and diesel and other petroleum products and push for "renewable resorces." Which I'm all for when the renewable products become affordable. If someone invented a car that runs on dirty sea water and is proven reliable and is affordable and is accepted, I'll buy one.
He'll send 17,000 National Gaurd personel to the golf (oops, I mean gulf) but send any to the border states.
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Post by Sham » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:06 pm

DVD Burner wrote:And they and a few others here on this board will try to be first to say you and I are the same.
Are you saying that DVD Burner is EmilyD and EmilyD is DVD Burner?
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:01 pm

Oh heyyyyy!

here's something I noticed, while everyone in America is spending tons of time on the BP mess and Repugs, there are other things going on in the world.

Damn, Obama is gettin used for that same ol' "lets keep Americans stupid again" SHIT.
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Post by Thecatman » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:39 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Oh oh, Thecatman is another Tea bagger!

Probably a little racist too.
Damn DVD. You're making me out to be an Archie Bunker.
The initials BHO have been used by others.
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